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Former Democrat Congressman Gerry Studds Dies

Unlike Mark Foley, Studds actually had sex with male pages.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former U.S. Rep. Gerry Studds, a Massachusetts Democrat who was censured in 1983 for having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old congressional intern, died on Saturday at Boston Medical Center, an official said.


Christian Kiriakos, the hospital's central administrator, said Studds, 69, died Saturday morning but did not provide details on the cause of his death.

Studds was the first member of Congress to acknowledge he was gay. When he was censured by the U.S. House of Representatives in 1983 for his relationship with the male page, Studds stood defiantly on the floor with his back turned to his fellow lawmakers as the charges against him were read.

Studds was re-elected and went on to serve a total of 12 terms. He did not seek re-election in 1996.

How many male pages did Studds victimize before he retired in 1996? No one in the MSM seems to care to find out, yet they're now seizing upon Congressman Jim Kolbe's 1996 camping trip. Hat tip: Ian at Hot Air.


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Comments (37)

Gay bashing by the democrat... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Gay bashing by the democrats rolls on in Az. Nothing new to report here.

Poetic timing.... (Below threshold)
914:

Poetic timing.

I'm not quite old enough to... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I'm not quite old enough to have paid much attention during the Studds business in the early eighties, but...

Unlike Mark Foley, Studds actually had sex with male pages

As far as I can tell it was only one page, right? And it was consensual, right?

How many male pages did Studds victimize before he retired in 1996?

From what I understand he didn't victimize any, he engaged in a consensual, but inappropriate, relationship with one sudubordinate. But then from what I've seen Foley didn't victimize anyone either, he engaged in repeated and ongoing inappropriate advances on many subordinates.

No one in the MSM seems to care to find out, yet they're now seizing upon Congressman Jim Kolbe's 1996 camping trip.

Well, first of all, the MSM cared a lot about Studds in 1983, when it all became public. Why you think they should be going back over it I have no idea. And the Kolbe camping trip is being investigated by the feds. Are you saying that's not news, and thus should be ignored by the media?

FWIW worth this whole Foley thing has become very tiresome, and has always been irrelevant to the serious issues we face this election, but you show yourself to be just as childish as those who focus on Foley by going after a now dead former congressman whose indiscretions date back over three decades.

As far as I can tell it ... (Below threshold)
mesablue:

As far as I can tell it was only one page, right? And it was consensual, right?

How very LeFave of you.

It comes up now because of the double standard applied by those on your side.

Gay pedophile democrat=victim.

Gay inappropriate republican=evil.

Why are lefty sites now trying to find and out as many gay republicans as they can?

It's interesting that the 'progressive' party does not think that minority and gay individuals should be able to think for themselves -- instead they are labled as Uncle Tom's and hypocrites.

Statuatory rape is never co... (Below threshold)
John S:

Statuatory rape is never consensual. The double standard was and remains appalling.

Actually Mantis, Studds adm... (Below threshold)
Wyatt:

Actually Mantis, Studds admitted making advances toward at least two other male pages. The situation really isn't all that much different than Foley's, except Studds actually had sex with a young male page.

Just shows the hypocracy ou... (Below threshold)
Dave:

Just shows the hypocracy out there... We can have a two week long orgy about a guy that sent some messages to some kids and say it's all republicans fault this happened, but then we should fail to mention the democrat that actually did have sex with kids that never resigned, or was forced to resign, but democrat voters re-elected him again and again.

New slogan "The Democrat party: We vote FOR Child Molesters and Statutory Rape violators!!"

For more than a week s... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

For more than a week straight the shameless propaganda machine of the Party of fraud have been airing the exact same crap. Day after day it is going to be two weeks straight and they will have had nothing new to add at all. The 89% democrat voting Media does not even attempt to hide their deceitful ways in which they create the news by "Cherry Picking". Then using their front pages to help their Democrat masters.

The entire democrat party is a sham. They are no different from the Hollywood and Media figures who give themselves awards and pat each other on the back. The most hilarious and pathetic things I hear from lap mutts is when they describe someone as "UPCOMING" or "A RISING STAR" in the democrat party. I don't know of anything else that can make you laugh your ass off and puke at the same time than this democrat party of perpetual fraud and their braindead loyal supporters.

How very LeFave of you.<... (Below threshold)
mantis:

How very LeFave of you.

(Mantis, your cursing at other Wizbang commenters is out of line. You've been warned). For someone who talks about hypocrisy and double standards you sure show your true colors when you equate adults hitting on 17-year olds with day care workers molesting children. Or, rather, when you equate me with day care workers molesting children, because I make a point you disagree with.

It comes up now because of the double standard applied by those on your side.

First of all, I don't belong to a side. I am pretty liberal politically, but I find many who are likewise liberal to be idiots. I'm not on their side, I'm on my side. It's funny that you talk about double standards and then display one in the very next thing you write:

Gay pedophile democrat=victim.

Gay inappropriate republican=evil.

If it's a democrat, he's a pedophile, if it's a republican, he's "innapropriate." Pot, meet dumbshit. And by the way, I was not calling Foley evil, I merely said he engaged in innapropriate behavior, as did Studds.

Why are lefty sites now trying to find and out as many gay republicans as they can?

I don't know, ask them. I've never outed anyone.

It's interesting that the 'progressive' party does not think that minority and gay individuals should be able to think for themselves -- instead they are labled as Uncle Tom's and hypocrites.

Why are you talking about the Progressive Party? I thought Teddy Roosevelt was dead. Anyway, it's interesting to hear you whine about people being called hypocrites, when anyone who doesn't tow the Republican Party line is labelled a terrorist and/or traitor.

Actually Mantis, Studds ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Actually Mantis, Studds admitted making advances toward at least two other male pages. The situation really isn't all that much different than Foley's, except Studds actually had sex with a young male page.

Like I said, I don't know everything about the Studds case, and if true you are correct. Got a link?

At least the Reuters accoun... (Below threshold)

At least the Reuters account (unbelievably) identifies Studds as a Democrat. The AP version of the story never mentions Studds' party even while identifying Foley as a Republican in the same story.

And Mantis- statutoy rape is no big deal as long as it's consensual? Is that really what you're saying here?

Anyone who can still sup... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

Anyone who can still support this Criminal Democrat Party of liars and frauds is more than willing to bend over and take it in the ass. It's part of the "Do Whatever it takes" to weasel their incompetant butts back in power.

Wow- statutoy? I meant stat... (Below threshold)

Wow- statutoy? I meant statutory, but statutoy is a slightly humorous slip.

Mantis, your wrong. ... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

Mantis, your wrong.

"when anyone who doesn't tow the Republican Party line is labelled a terrorist and/or traitor."

When someone attacks the President of the United States because they are sore losers , liars and frauds , they are traitors. Just because I registered Democratic years ago it doesn't make me a Democrat. I am an American period and I more than proved it when I voted for President Bush Nov.2,2004. Democrats do more to prove they are democrats than they do to prove they are Americans. They would rather betray their Country rather than their pathetic party.

You would think at least a ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

You would think at least a couple of days would go by following his passing before the hateful right would start vilifying Studds, but no. Instead they pounce before his body is even in the ground.

No surprise. The Republicans are the gays' worst enemy, unless its a gay man who will vote their way. Then they'll let him get away with almost anything.

It does point out the utter and sheer desperation the conservatives are going through at this stage of the election cycle. Studds' constituency re-elected the man to office for 12 more years of service after the scandal broke. That demonstrates that he obviously was a good representative for the people he served, and in a democracy reasonable people would give him credit for that much on his passing.

Not the hate-filled Republicans. Their recent "concern" for gays in Washington does not extend beyond their own greedy political ends.

Kim (I presume),<i... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Kim (I presume),

Mantis, your cursing at other Wizbang commenters is out of line. You've been warned

Spare me. I get compared to a convicted child molester and I'm out of line for using the f-word? A word, mind you, that I have seen Jay and Paul use on several occasions towards commenters.

Rob,

I am an American period and I more than proved it when I voted for President Bush Nov.2,2004.

Thank you for proving my point. You're only an American if you vote for George Bush.

Democrats do more to prove they are democrats than they do to prove they are Americans.

Why, exactly, do people need to prove they are Americans? Won't my birth certificate or passport suffice? Of course not, I must agree with you politically in order to prove I'm American.

(There, no dirty swear words. Happy?)

Did Studd's off himself to ... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Did Studd's off himself to avoid the democ'rat party gay bashers?

Mantis, if you are a true American you have nothing to prove. If you are part of the traitors sliming our heroic troops while they are dying in combat protecting our way of life, then you can start asking yourself questions. If you are part of the democ'rat party that would destroy the country and everyone in it to satisfy an ego wounded by losing an election, you can start asking yourself questions. If you have reduced your entire life to trashing and sliming politicians in the 'other' party to soothe your losing ego, you can start asking yourself questions. If you are a part of the 'violent demonstrators' that refuse to allow anyone else freedom of speach because they don't agree with you, then you can start asking yourself questions.

A large percentage of the democ'rats are doing all of the above so they're patriotism, or lack of, can surely be questioned.

If you are one of the democ'rats that think the economy is bad, then don't ask any questions, just slice your wrist or throat or blow your brains out. You are too stupid to breathe and are a waste of oxygen. Do your part to help global warming, reduce the population by one.

"You would think at leas... (Below threshold)
914:

"You would think at least a couple of days would go by following His passing before the hateful right would start villifying Studds, but no. They pounce before His bodys even in the ground."

You mean kind of like the way Studds pounced on adolescents while they were yet very aware! and not dead and unfeeling like Him..

"That demonstrates He was obviously a good representative for the people He served, And in a
democracy people would give Him credit for that much on His passing."

In a democracy He should have been executed for molesting children!! sorry.

Now I see how He got re-elected. pathetic

Democrats do more to prove ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Democrats do more to prove they are democrats than they do to prove they are Americans.

Why, exactly, do people need to prove they are Americans? Won't my birth certificate or passport suffice? Of course not, I must agree with you politically in order to prove I'm American.
-------------------------------------------------
Another typical verbal gymnastics by mantis to divert the point. He knows what it means. We know that there are people who are born in America but willing to sell out their countries for their own ends.

The Dems 's actions seem to show that they don't have America 's interest at heart. The point stands that the Dems need to show that they are Americans, and not terrorist-enabling radical leftists with American passports.


Lee simply knows that he is... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Lee simply knows that he is intellectually dishonest about the sewage standard of the Dem party and Studd is a clear example of that. So all he can do is dishonestly trying to divert attention to hate-filled rhetoric etc...

Foley is a clear example of Dem gay-bashing. Dem operatives openly tried to link Foley 's gayness with pedophillia.

BTW, Ney was asked to retir... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

BTW, Ney was asked to retire or to be kicked out. Now at least we can agree that the Dems simply have no ethical standard.

In a imperfect world, it is better to vote for the Reps because it is easier to clean them up. If you scream loudly about ethics, you simply cannot vote for the Dems.

Mantis, here is one link:</... (Below threshold)
Wyatt:

Mantis, here is one link:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/14/obit.studds.ap/index.html

I had read another one hinting at the possibilty of more than two, but I can't find that now. This one says two.

Excuse me...didn't Studds n... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Excuse me...didn't Studds not only have sex with an underage page, but also gave him cranberry and vodka to help smooth things along...if I recall, giving liquor to a minor is supposedly against the law?

Q. The follow-up question would be what happened at that dinner?
A. Well, we sat around and talked about abstract and general questions, all types and descriptions, until four in the morning, drinking vodka and cranberry juice, at which time I was told by the congressman that he was too drunk to give me a ride home and so he said, Why don't you sleep here? and I did.

Hmm...I bet if Foley done this, he would have been arrested for contributing alcohol to a minor.

Christian Kiriakos, the ... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Christian Kiriakos, the hospital's central administrator, said Studds, 69, died Saturday morning but did not provide details on the cause of his death.

I think I read it was a blood clot in the lung. But, we could take a page from the left:

I QUESTION THE TIMING!

(snark)

You would think at least... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

You would think at least a couple of days would go by following his passing before the hateful right would start vilifying Studds, but no. Instead they pounce before his body is even in the ground.

Yeah, tell that to Reagan...

Mantis,I don't giv... (Below threshold)
Kim Priestap:

Mantis,

I don't give a damn if you use the f-word if it's for the purpose of emphasis or to spice up your comments. I care if you use it toward someone.

It well over a week before ... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

It well over a week before I knew which party Gary Condit belonged with. This was pre-blog pre-internet news popularity.

I had a pretty good guess though after not knowing for a that long.

Just so everyone knows: thi... (Below threshold)

Just so everyone knows: this is how I view comment rules in the comment threads on my posts. I know Wizbang has its own policies, but I also have some too.

I don't mind swearing, as long as it's not gratuitous.

I don't mind swearing as long as it's done to add emphasis or spice up or comments.

I do mind swearing if it's directed toward someone personally.

All other Wizbang comment policies apply as well.

Thanks, everyone.

I question the timing.... (Below threshold)
GarandFan:

I question the timing.

"You would think at leas... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"You would think at least a couple of days would go by following his passing before the hateful right would start vilifying Studds, but no. Instead they pounce before his body is even in the ground."

Heh. Yeah, let's all boo-hoo for a child rapist.
Does the Left really mourn the passing of a well known child molester? I don't.

Let's take a vote: who here has kind words for Studds? Come on, make your voices heard.

I heard a great quote yeste... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

I heard a great quote yesterday by Dennis Miller that immediately brought Lee, Mantis and Hugh to mind:

"You've thrown up so many straw men, Ray Bolger is going to sue for infringement."

Quick, Lee, Google "Ray Bolger" and figure out what's going on, fast!!!

And then, try to explain it to Hugh, but have some patience, since it will take 4-5 attempts before he gets it.

And Mantis, poor wretched man, he'll get the joke, but his warped mind won't be able to form a smile, or a laugh, or anything. Just immense anger that a "Rethuglican" could call him out.

Ahhhhhhhh. Feel much better.

The only meaningful differe... (Below threshold)

The only meaningful difference between Foley and Studds? Foley did the right thing in the end (er... no pun intended there... *ahem*) and resigned. Studds got away with his crime thanks to his fellow Democrats.

What Studds and Dan Crane d... (Below threshold)
Jim:

What Studds and Dan Crane did with 17-year old pages was wrong (I'm not sure what the age of consent was in the 70's or early 80's, but they still should not have done anything with pages). Both parties chose not to vote to expel Crane and Studds, and the verdict was left up to voters in their districts. Crane was thrown out of office, Studds was not.

In '96, a Republican-led Congress passed something that allowed a marine sanctuary in Massachusetts to be named after Studds, so by that time, apparently neither party had a big objection to his behavior with the page.

As for Kolbe, is the media "seizing" on his camping trip, or did someone report his camping trip to the authorities? The claim sounds bogus to me, everyone on the trip has said he did nothing improper, but the media can't exactly pretend he isn't being investigated. I've seen more media coverage of the Harry Reid land deal than what is going on with Kolbe.

For someone who talks ab... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

For someone who talks about hypocrisy and double standards you sure show your true colors when you equate adults hitting on 17-year olds with day care workers molesting children.

You're the one trying to portray weak flirting with a boy who was of legal age with having sex with a boy --- and nobody has a clue when the sexual contact began.

The ONLY difference is that Foley never penetrated any boys. Studds did.

Oh, and the Republicans repudiated Foley. The Dems did a half-assed censure --- and then welcomed him into the fold.

If it's a democrat, he's a pedophile, if it's a republican, he's "innapropriate." Pot, meet dumbshit.

Pedophilia: sexual activity of an adult with a child

In what way was Studds not a pedophile?

You would think at least a couple of days would go by following his passing before the hateful right would start vilifying Studds, but no. Instead they pounce before his body is even in the ground.

My ability to mourn pedophiles, admittedly, is not strong. I'd think that a Dem who is SO mad at the GOP over Foley wouldn't be trying to silence criticism of a known pedophile like Studds.

Studds' constituency re-elected the man to office for 12 more years of service after the scandal broke. That demonstrates that he obviously was a good representative for the people he served, and in a democracy reasonable people would give him credit for that much on his passing.

Or that lefties don't care how many boys a guy bangs as long as he votes left.

You don't see Republicans defending Foley the way you're defending Studds here.

Now, Lee, tell me how evil Foley is. Please.
-=Mike

Man, that's weird. The Demo... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Man, that's weird. The Democrats support Studds, a well known sexual predator of children; but they are all 'outraged' when Foley sends improper emails to former pages.

They are even calling for a period of mourning for Studds the molester. Sickening.

So the official Democratic platform is that they will support child molesters? Unless they come out and explicitly say they are against pedophiles, I guess so; based on their past behavior.

"..based on their past beha... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"..based on their past behavior."

Actually, that should be " based on past and present behavior.", since they still won't say a bad word about Studds.

Studds did not "defiantly t... (Below threshold)
JOHN RYAN:

Studds did not "defiantly turn his back" during the vote. He remained standing and facing the Speaker. This appears to have become an urban legend, much like the "spitting on Vietnam veterans" became.
I have not been able to find anything that states that what Studds did was illegal. Sexual harassment was never charged and age of consent appears to have been 16.
I do not recall the FBI being involved in the Studds case. The USA was socially a much more liberal country at that time.




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