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WaPo: How Dare Bush and Rove Be Upbeat About the Elections

Don't they know the Republicans are supposed to lose? At least that's the attitude the WaPo is taking in this article:

Amid widespread panic in the Republican establishment about the coming midterm elections, there are two people whose confidence about GOP prospects strikes even their closest allies as almost inexplicably upbeat: President Bush and his top political adviser, Karl Rove.


Some Republicans on Capitol Hill are bracing for losses of 25 House seats or more. But party operatives say Rove is predicting that, at worst, Republicans will lose only 8 to 10 seats -- shy of the 15-seat threshold that would cede control to Democrats for the first time since the 1994 elections and probably hobble the balance of Bush's second term.

In the Senate, Rove and associates believe, a Democratic victory would require the opposition to "run the table," as one official put it, to pick up the necessary six seats -- a prospect the White House seems to regard as nearly inconceivable.

The Mark Foley page scandal and its fallout have many Republicans panicked, but Rove professes to be taking it in stride. "The data we are seeing from individual races and the national polls would tend to indicate that people can divorce Foley's personal action from the party," he said in a brief interview Thursday.

The official White House line of supreme self-assurance comes from the top down. Bush has publicly and privately banished any talk of losing the GOP majorities, in part to squelch any loss of nerve among his legions. Come January, he said last week, "We'll have a Republican speaker and a Republican leader of the Senate."

The question is whether this is a case of justified confidence -- based on Bush's and Rove's electoral record and knowledge of the money, technology and other assets at their command -- or of self-delusion. Even many Republicans suspect the latter. Three GOP strategists with close ties to the White House flatly predicted the loss of the House, though they would not do so on the record for fear of offending senior Bush aides.

Bush and Rove refuse to say die. Instead, they will fight to maintain a Republican majority in both houses of Congress until the bitter end, which drives the left mad. As far as I'm concerned, we need more people like them. Just because things don't look good for Republicans at this moment of the campaign doesn't mean they should forfeit the entire election a whole 22 days before Election Day. Anything can happen in 22 days.

Update: Jim from bRight and Early recommends reading The Lizardarian Manifesto at Big Lizards. I agree. Here's a portion:

Adversity is a given in this vale of tears. Take it like a man, even if you're a woman. Suck it up, fix your problems, and charge into the next election with courage, grace, and optimism.


We may lose a contest, but the Democrats can never defeat us; only we can do that to ourselves.

But if we pull up our pants with courage and vigor and step out bravely, sword in hand, even after being sent reeling;
If we never say die;
If we never recognize final defeat;
If we never give up;
If we stand ever ready to give the last full measure of our devotion;
If we have faith;
If we adopt the credo of the Spartans at Thermopylae, death before dishonor;
Then in the end, we shall prevail, ourselves or those who follow... and even the grandchildren of our adversaries shall have cause to remember our names.

And that is no mean thing.

Click on over to Big Lizards and read the entire manifesto.


Comments (28)

Anything can happen in 22 d... (Below threshold)
914:

Anything can happen in 22 days.

Yes, like We may get to vote in 22 days and see if the dems predictions have any truth to them?

My gut feeling is an unequivocal no.

Kim: I know it's a bit of c... (Below threshold)

Kim: I know it's a bit of cheap shot but remember Bush is also upbeat about Iraq... the chances that diplomacy will persuade Iran to give up their nuke programs... that China will actually enforce the UN resolutions on NK... and that the Palestinians really want to live peacefully side by side with Israel... so I think it wouldn't be prudent to put much stock in his being upbeat. In fact, given his track record for the past couple of years, I'd recommend going short on anything he is upbeat about.

So much has happened in the... (Below threshold)
Lee:

So much has happened in the news that has gone against the Republicans over the last two weeks (latest example) that I now firmly believe there will be a swing back in the opposite direction, in favor of the Repubs in the final two weeks.

Hussein's sentencing just two days before election day (no coincidence I'm sure) is a good example of the kind of event that can help Republicans recover their losses. I'm sure we'll see more.

Posted at Just One Minute f... (Below threshold)
Florence Schmieg:

Posted at Just One Minute from a Dem blogsite:

I am sad to report to this community the reality of the ground situation in a northwestern bellwether county, Wood County Ohio. Despite our enthusiasm for recent polls and excitement in general it appears the republican early voting effort is far superior to ours.

Absentee Ballots have been going out for one week, and the Republican early voting turnout machine has proven superior to our best efforts. To date nearly 3,500 absentee ballots have been mailed out. 40% of which have been mailed to Republicans, 40% to undeclared and only 20% to Democrats.

Republicans have mailed multiple absentee registrations to all of their registered voters and have followed up with multiple robo-calls and human calls to ensure that their voters have turned in their early voting applications. Additionally there is evidence that they have reached beyond their republican base, and have targeted independents in a number of important swing precincts in Wood County.

Wood County has gone twice for Clinton and twice for Bush. Bush won Wood County by 3% points over Kerry. Wood County is a suburban to rural county south of Toledo Ohio and is an indicator of how well candidates will perform in very close races. Obviously Sherrod Brown is in a very tight race.

I'm a little worried. Okay a lot worried.

http://buckeyestateblog.com/this_is_what_scares_me_about_nov_7th

I agree with Bush and Rove.... (Below threshold)
Louis:

I agree with Bush and Rove. Republicans op-ed types are acting like a bunch of cry-babies expecting the worst to happen, which if it gets out the vote, is a good thing. Unfortunately, these cry-babies are not the republican base.

The base will vote solidly behind the repubs. What peopel dont realize is the repub base doesnt take to the streets all the time to make its voice heard. It simply does its job by voting for the right party for the best interests of the country. The moral majority in this country votes and doesnt talk or wring its hands. It simply gets the job done.

all these polls remind me when Terry Schiavo was killed, and pollsters immediately asked conservatives if "they agree with the governemnt intruding to save Schiavo." The pollsters quickly came out and said that a majority of conservatives were against the government trying to save Schiavo. BUT when the question was asked again, in the correct way, that "if Schiavo was not in a persistent vegatative state, and her parents wanted to give her support, shouldnt the government step in to save her and re-investigate the case," the conservatives overwhelmingly agreed for the government to step in and save her.

Its based on how one packages the facts.

who is fooling who with these contrived polls? Remember the exit polls in 2004? need i say more?

...doesn't mean they sho... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

...doesn't mean they should forfeit the entire election a whole 22 days before Election Day.

But...but....but, yes it does. Just let the other side win. I mean, after all, who really cares? And what is "winning" or "losing" any way? Just abstract terms that really do nothing more than undermine people's sense of self-worth.

And just who the hell is Vince Lombardi to say "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

How cruel! What a terrible thing to say somebody. Just give up, go home and be happy that you "tried".


/bitter sarcasm tag off

/"Was it over when the Germ... (Below threshold)
greg:

/"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
"Forget it....he is on a roll!!!"/
Hey, the MSM has been selling this all is lost meme for 18 months. Ever since GWB got rolled on social security reform. If we get out fo this with our conservative political lives..I hope we learn and take action on the crucial issues like SS reform, the borders, and the GWOT. If we hold the senate, I hope Frist's succesor will beat the mcCains, hagels, and Specters into submission!!!
If we lose, we have only ourselves to blame, as we let our reps and senators think that they could ignore the 'base' of change...that made them the majority.
Get out, hold your nose, vote GOP and then let's get after real change...or back to my Animal House reference...."Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son"

What pathetic perpetual ... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

What pathetic perpetual fraud the Democrat party is. They have no shame at all. The democrats were crying that Republican Governor Arnold S. was on Jay leno and the Rat faced Loser , Los Angelides was demanding equal time. That incompetant little weasel can only sit there and call the one person who brought us out of Gray Davis's Bankrupting and Raping of California a liar and not trust worthy. LOL, what a fricken lying cry baby.

What pathetic perpetual ... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

What pathetic perpetual fraud the Democrat party is. They have no shame at all. The democrats were crying that Republican Governor Arnold S. was on Jay leno and the Rat faced Loser , Los Angelides was demanding equal time. That incompetant little weasel can only sit there and call the one person who brought us out of Gray Davis's Bankrupting and Raping of California a liar and not trust worthy. LOL, what a fricken lying cry baby.

Everyone on the right shoul... (Below threshold)
Jim:

Everyone on the right should read Dafydd's The Lizardarian Manifesto.

One word can explain their ... (Below threshold)
Actual:

One word can explain their confidence: Diebold

Jim I was just about to co... (Below threshold)
Rory:

Jim I was just about to comment about that.....shoot I tried to prove that I was coming here with the link and it got caught in the spam filter.

Shoot-what was your favorite part of it?

I found it via Terrye at Flares into the Darkness.

A BIG thank you to Terrye.

She had some excellent comments about this at Captain's Quarter's the other day.

OK well....here is my favor... (Below threshold)
Rory:

OK well....here is my favorite part of Big Lizard's Manifesto-

I will not be a craven.

Regardless of media threats, I will not be cowed or silenced; I will not be shamed or frightened. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. I will not be made to feel guilty for being a partisan Republican. If they don't like it, they can jolly well get stuffed.

I will not be a doomhawker.

Despite adverse polls, I will not cringe. I will push forward, conceding nothing, yielding no land, handing no freebies to the Democrats. I will not roll over. I will not concede defeat before the votes are even cast, let alone counted. I will contest every contest until the last possible moment. While I may allocate scarce resources where they will do the most good, I will never start a sentence with "after we lose, we'll have to...."

Elections are like sunrises: you always know when they'll come, but you never know what they'll look like until they arrive.

So the dems ughh I mean fed... (Below threshold)
914:

So the dems ughh I mean feds raided Kurt Weldons place ehh..No coincidence or tie to the upcoming elections Im sure.

When is Dirty Harry going to warrant an investigation?

Never I think?

Great posting greg @4:24pm and Rory @4:55pm

They're probably thinking a... (Below threshold)
IllTemperedCur:

They're probably thinking about the last two weeks of the 2004 election when Kerry started to act like he saw the writing on the wall. I distinctly remember the change in tone, where Kerry started to prep his supporters for defeat. Bad move.

Dems/Libs are incredulous w... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Dems/Libs are incredulous when others don't bow to rumors of failure, or indulge their fear of same.

That's why they have wanted to cut and run from Iraq from day one, despite the possibility of success.

From Day One, it's all about failure--for Dems.

For the rest of us, we perservere, or at least fail trying to.

Better watch out for the ne... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Better watch out for the new democ'rat party Catch Phrase, 'Common good'. What it means is that those that have worked their butt off and accumulated a little wealth will be ripped off and what you earned through hard work will be taken and given to those that are 'too sorry' to work for anything.

It's coming, Hellary promised exactly that. "We will take stuff away from you for the common good". Isn't that full blown communism? So maybe we can't call her a democ'rat. Communist or slime ball fits better.

If they win in Nov get your worldly goods lined up and bury them in the back yard. Turn all stock market/bond investments into cash and bury it in the back yard along with the other goodies. Nothing will be safe from their greedy hands. I suggest spending a portion of your savings on firearms and ammo. You're going to need it also.

Believing you have failed i... (Below threshold)

Believing you have failed is the first, substantial step towards actually doing so.

Of course, believing you have succeeded, or will succeed, works just as well if being victorious is your goal :).

I think that is one of the biggest differences between most liberals and most conservatives - the concept of instant gratification, especially applied to competitions (such as elections). If you are not ahead in the polls (even the meaningless figures-never-lie-but-liars-figure ones before the actual elections), then you obviously are not going to win. Sorry, but it ain't over till the fat lady... yeah.

Good advice Scrapiron. That... (Below threshold)
914:

Good advice Scrapiron. That little hellion is not getting Her criminal hands on My treasure..Its going in the lock box. ha ha

As I truly believe that Rov... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

As I truly believe that Rove is the heart of todays Republican Party..I would be a fool to doubt his optimism..I will say it here and now..as an Independent I now believe the voters of America will vote to maintain the way Congress progressed in the past 2 years...I don't agree with it..but I try not to be the fool to often..but again Scrap I have to disagree..
If your response is Dems will gut the 4th Amendment more than the Repubs have in the past 2 years..then you didn't understand it to begin with..
Thousands have been gunned down in Iraq by folks who buried their guns and ammo in their backyard..
But of course..you would agree that is not only their right..but their duty...

nogo postal: That is the po... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

nogo postal: That is the point, have the guns buried now so we can stop a takeover by some idiot like Saddam aka Hellary's criminal element (ck this site for a count of people that crossed them before , (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm) in our case. Remember that the people on this list were declared suicides and accidents while the Clintons were 'in power', where anything was possible. After the takeover it's hard to get out from under a dictator. The people killing people in Iraq are not the 'Iraqi' people that want to be free. They are the imported people trying a takeover for Iran, sprinkled with a few nuts from the joke they call the religion of peace, also backed by Iran, that will be far worse than Saddam, that is if there is anything worse than one man rule that can kill over a million people and have the American democ'rats defend him.

Scrappy - Don't forget the ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Scrappy - Don't forget the tin-foil!

Last time, when Republican ... (Below threshold)

Last time, when Republican prospects were hopeless, I said to my mom, "I think they'll do better than people think they will." Why? "Look at all the camo clothing for children they're selling at Target."

And I can't put my finger on it, exactly, but despite the news, the popular culture seems to have shifted pro-war. Not pro-Iraq war or anything specific, but I *think* that silly "The Marine" movie is missing all those important socially responsible anti-violence sub-texts in favor of heroism and lots of explosions. (I hope so, I like beefcake and explosions.) In any case, "Jarhead" it is not.

And Target is still selling camo for children, only in digital prints as well as woodland.

And when is the last time a Democrat dared repeat "bring them home now" in public? Even in our local congressional race the Dem candidate is in full back-up mode to distance herself from "pull-out now" to the more easily spun "we need a time-table."

Media mentions of terrorists and television channel surfing makes me think that the idea that we aren't facing a real threat isn't getting much play anymore. Gretchen Wilson (?) sings about shopping at Wal-mart and where are the Dixie Chicks?

Foley isn't going to last for 20 more days, despite being the subject of local political ads (Heather Wilson was on the page board, the horror!). The people who's behavior might be changed by that scandal are already tired of it.

Bottom line. Turn out for non-presidential election years tends to be miniscule. It's easy to tell a pollster who you'd vote for but in the end it matters who makes the effort and goes to the polls. It matters who intends to go to the polls but gets distracted. It matters who takes the time and sends in their absentee ballots and who doesn't.

I posted a link to this art... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

I posted a link to this article over the weekend at Wizbang Politics and got some interesting comments and emails. How dare anyone on the right side of the aisle be upbeat?

The right, in general, is q... (Below threshold)

The right, in general, is quite optimistic.

Hey "pucker puss" (lee lee)... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Hey "pucker puss" (lee lee) ani't trying to get back in "good" with someone are we? Tee he.

The defeatists are succumbi... (Below threshold)

The defeatists are succumbing to the temptation to lose. Losing is easy. Takes almost no effort at all, and you get that wonderful depressing feeling to help you feel sorry for yourself.

Winning is hard, which is why it is heralded and respected. Winning takes guts, and the ability to persevere in the face of adversity. It takes the determination to fight through the pain and distractions, execute your plan, and see it through to the end.

A football team which enters the 4th quarter down two touchdowns can do one of two things: they can bow to the scoreboard, give up, and get it over with - OR they can knuckle down and fight harder to pull own the win.

Guess which attitude wins more games?

Reminds me of an old verse:

If you think you cannot - you can't. If you think you dare not - you don't. If you'd like to win, but think that you can't, It's almost a cinch that you won't.


To all you whining, handwringing, blame-assigning losers out there: kindly step out of the way - it's annoying having to clamber over your prostrate forms on the way to winning.

Don't worry, Republicans, y... (Below threshold)
Herman:

Don't worry, Republicans, you still got your secret weapon, the one that blows all polls (especially exit polls) completely out of the water:

Diebold




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