I can think of no better reason to vote Democrat in the upcoming elections.

Such a move would finally expose their perfidy and we can get on with the revolution.

It doesn't matter if Republicans stay home if *more* Democrats stay home.

Midterm elections like these have rotten turn out in a normal year. Most people just don't bother. I wonder if they've talked to people who normally vote in midterms to find out if fewer of *them* plan to vote this time.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is a sour thing, but a person has to not care if the greater of two evils wins before they're going to sit it out because of that. The sort of person who doesn't care probably has a mirror in the other party who also doesn't care. Sure, people are annoyed at the Republicans, but are they any *less* annoyed at the Democrats?

I don't think so.

If the Democrats want to waste time & impeach Bush (just like they thought it was a waste of time to impeach Clinton); Bush & Cheney could only be removed from office with the Senate's approval---which is not going to happen.

If true crimes were committed & the evil Bush & Cheney team realize they are "caught", surely Bush would do like Nixon & have Cheney resign, name a new VP, & that would prevent Pelosi from becoming President. Thank God for a system.

However, hopefully the Democrats will use their time more wisely (if they become leaders) to finally come up with a plan for security, world peace, the terrible economy, health care & all the other things they think are in such terrible shape.

So what? The Democrats won't have the votes to get rid of either one. Neither one is running again. Their reputations are already pretty much in shreds. Every Republican running for President in 2008 is going to run as the anti-Bush. If anything, the Democrats playing the impeachment game will keep Bush motivated to veto the silly stuff the Democrats hope to pass once they get control.

And as a motivational ploy to get the GOP all riled up to keep the Democrats out, you're presuming the GOP rank and file cares about Bush? He doesn't care about us, why should we go to the mat to keep the Democrats from adding a chapter to his already pathetic legacy?

Do you think anyone one be talking impeachment if WMD had been found? If our country wwould have been protected on 9-11? If the job in Afghanistan had been completed. If our country wouldn't have been humiliated in front of a gasping world audience at the NATIONAL RESPONSE of Katrina? If the anthrax killers would have been caught? If 60 million more people were without healthcare than in 2000? If Osama Bin Laden had been caught? If 2000 of our brave guys weren't dead in the shithole in Iraq for NO REASON?? because Bush HAS NO PLAN-HAS NEVER HAD A PLAN?? If this adminisration hadn't lied and lied and lied.

If you people are really Americans why don't you stand up for America. Take your balls out of your purse and quit getting your marching orders from Ken Mehlman and Sean Hannity.. a fine couple of candyass chickenhawks.. Its time to stand up for our country and quit taking it up the butt from George Bush.

We have a great country and our great country is in dire need of some serious help right now. It's way past time for some folks around here to get some self respect.

This morning I heard a conservative radio personality suggest that "As bad as we Republicans are, the Democrats are worse". How sad it must be to have your party reduced to the lesser of two evils.

That's the reason the Republicans are trying to scare you into voting - suggesting that bad and evil things will happen if you don't.

It's pathetic. Now Republicans can clearly see how their party is the party of hate and fear-mongering.

Now Republicans can see how they've been lead around by the nose - scared in to believing that there is an "Axis of Evil" --

-- that Saddamm had WMDs,

-- that the media lies to you

-- that's its all a big joint Democratic Party/Terrorist conspiracy

-- that the big bad bogeyman will get you if you don't do what they tell you to do.

And now - President Pelosi - lol! What a joke, what a sad, pathetic joke the Republicans are pulling on the American populace.

It's more than pathetic, it's un-American.

Well, I've just been convinced it's necessary to vote this election. I'd been planning anyway, but this cinches it.

President Pelosi? God, we'd be SO fucked if that happened. It almost seems like they keep thinking that BUSH is the cause of trouble in the ME, that if he weren't President then everyone would be rational actors and play nice... when the history of that region shows that notion to be a fairy tale. They keep trying to persuade me that the Dems have a clue - but this is damn near as clueless as it's possible to be short of a lobotomy, because it completely ignores the world situation in favor of petty politics here at home.

Damn. I'm supposed to vote Dem for THIS shit?

To succesfully remove the President after impeachment procedings they need at least 66 votes from Congress. There just isnt any way they will get it. They may impeach, like Clinton was impeached, but they are smoking serious dope if they think they have any chance for Pelosi to be President.

Ah yes, in Lee's America, everything the left does is patriotic-American-as apple-pie. That's how it works in your warped brain of yours...

"but they are smoking serious dope if they think they have any chance for Pelosi to be President."

They don't believe it for a second, RM - they are lying to try to get people to get out and vote.

In my world, Steve, that's un-American.

If the impeachment thing doesn't work, the Dems can always arrange for Bush and Cheney's bodies to be found in Fort Marcy Park, dead of "apparent double suicide." Presto! President Pelosy!

These kind of things do happen when the Dems get desperate.

Mike Rogers, Kos, Glenn Greenwald, George Soros, Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton...they're *truth* tellers huh Lee. You are such a tool.

"Now Republicans can clearly see how their party is the party of hate and fear-mongering." It's like the old saying--One man's "trash" is another man's "treasure". What you see as "hate & fear-mongering", I and others see differently.

Do Republicans & Conservatives hate? You bet! But you make it sound like we hate Democrats & their supporters. What we hate is most of their ideas or the fact that there are no constructive ideas if the Dem party takes leadership. But we still think of Dems/Libs as our brothers & sisters in America & that's why we are willing to send our family members & friends to wars, even the ones you don't believe in. It hurts us when many outspoken Dem/liberal bloggers treat Republicans/conservatives, Bush, etc. as if they are the scum of the earth, lower than terrorists. We don't get that lack of being in the same family.

What you see as "fear-mongering" we see as being realistic, "getting it" when it comes to extremely violent Muslims who exist in almost every countryin the world in greater numbers than most people realize. Does Bush make this crap up? No, anyone can hear it straight from the mouths of different pro-Jihad leaders around the world, including Iran's leader. This has been going on for years, & will keep going on for years, even if all members of Congress are liberals. WAKE UP!

YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK!

I honestly wish some of you had to try being president, with every moron in the country thinking he/she could do a better job. Someone has to make tough decisions and it doen't get any easier with the media second guessing every one you make. It's real easy to say what ought to be done, when you don't have to suffer the consequences of your actions. Opinions and assholes, everyone has one and most are full of the same thing. Kind of reminds me of all those talking heads at the sports events who always seem to know what happened and should have happened, after the play is finished. I always want to tell them, that if they are so damn smart, why aren't they down on the field.

We have a tremendous economy ( and don't tell me how your neighbor isn't doing well, because I don't give a shit), low unemployment, stock market is raising, gas is down, etc., etc., etc., but everybody hates Bush. What in the hell would it take to satisfy you people.

This is news? They've been just dying to get even for the legitimate impeachment of Hill Billy Boy.

What's news is that the Republican drive-by bloggers are trying to convince you that there is more than a snowball's chance in hell that Pelosi will become President.

There isn't.

BE AFRAID, MY FELLOW REPUBLICANS! REWARD THE INCOMPETENCE OF TODAY'S GOP BY VOTING FOR THEM OUT OF FEAR OF WHAT THE DEMOCRATS MIGHT DO IF ALL THE PLANETS ALIGNED JUST SO!

This is really getting desperate...can't we talk about anything the Republicans have done that makes them worthy? Is all we have really "But they aren't Democrats!" and "Nancy Pelosi! Nancy Pelosi!"

"can't we talk about anything the Republicans have done that makes them worthy?"

I repeat:

"We have a tremendous economy ( and don't tell me how your neighbor isn't doing well, because I don't give a shit), low unemployment, stock market is raising, gas is down, etc., etc., etc.,"

I would also add that there have been no terrorist attacks on US soil, none of our embassys have been blown up, and none of our ships have been bombed.

THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!

I'm gonna get a "Bush 2008" bumper sticker and put it on my car.

It would be soooo worth it. (I don't do bumper stickers.)

We've got two years until the next presidential election and everything is *still* anti-Bush all the time. (As it was even before 9-11 so don't try to tell me it's got even the remotest thing to do with what he's done as president.)

Gee, I thought the president and vice president were supposed to be elected or something. I don't remember conspiracy and political coup being discussed as legitimate paths to the White House during high school civics. I must have missed that class.

The interesting thing to me is what happens if the looney left actually pulls this off. If Lee's wet dream comes true, and President Pelosi presumes power with Vice President Clinton, I think we'll all be discovering exactly why our founders wrote the 2nd Amendment.

It would be like the dog finally catching the bus. After they immediately surrender to the islamofascists, they'll have to either repeal the 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments and put troops in the street, or find other countries to hide in. I, for one, won't put up with a political coup, and I won't be alone. My ancestors didn't fight in the Revolutionary War to have a cabal of political loonies take over our government. MoveOn.org will seem like the Cub Scouts compared to the revolution in the streets, and I'll be out there with them. The Defeatocrats will be in charge of the goverment, but they won't be governing anybody without coercion. It takes consent of the governed.

While all this happy horses**t is going on, we'll be in the crosshairs of every whacko terrorist on the planet. But what the hell, the Democrats will finally have the power they've sold their souls for. While it lasts. The only question is how much damage to our country they will do in the meantime.

If the Democrats want to reassume power, they should earn it and get themselves elected, not steal it by conspiracy like a bunch of vicious, bitchy schoolgirls.

Is this Moorewatch or Wizbang

THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!

I wish I could feel that way.

When the economy thrived under Clinton, we all said that the President has little to do with the economy. Now it's all due to Bush and the GOP? Come on. Falling gas prices aren't the responsibility of the White House either.

I give credit to Bush for a lack of terrorism against us other than Iraq. I agree with the drain-the-swamp concept. However, I think it's a travesty that Rumsfeld is still making decisions. So do a lot of commanders who are still on the ground in Iraq.

Now...tell me, in 2006, why Republicans DESERVE to keep their jobs based on the job that CONGRESS has been doing. The 2006 elections are about Congress, not the White House. Tell me why the Rpeublicans deserve to keep control of Congress. Show me how they've earned it. Give me positive reasons and never, EVER mention a Democrat, and maybe I'll be able to see it your way.

Trying to scare people into voting Republican is the EXACT same lame tactic that the Dems tried when they ran Kerry. "But! But he's not Bush!"

It was pathetic when they did it, and it's twice as pathetic when we do it because we're supposed to know better.

"The interesting thing to me is what happens if the looney left actually pulls this off. If Lee's wet dream comes true, and President Pelosi presumes power with Vice President Clinton, I think we'll all be discovering exactly why our founders wrote the 2nd Amendment."

I wouldn't support Pelosi as President for a split second. She's wholly unqualified.

Also - there is no Democratic plan to make that happen. There is no Democratic plan to kick Bush and Cheney out of office.

Yes, there will be hearings. It called "accountability" - Our Country - - all of us -- need accountability from our elected officials.

All the hearings will do is bring out the truth - and we ALL know we've been lied to, so a little truth won't hurt.

Just so people can learn a little...How gas prices work.

JimK,
(1) GWOT: NSA, terrorist detaiment act ...
(2) Judges: Robert and Alito - are you going to get this with the Dem congress?
(3) Lower taxes - economy

Those are 3 big positive reasons that you definitely won't get with the Dems.

I know you will find plenty of other reasons to complain (eg. immigration, spending etc...), but you will get it worse with the Dems in addition to losing the big 3 above.

All the hearings will do is bring out the truth

If you believe that, you're an idiot. For every Republican lie, you can count on a Democrat lie to match. Only an idiot believes otherwise. The hearings will be a lot of public nothing, waste a lot of money, further the split between Red & Blue, Left & Right, Liberal & Conservative.

Which, of course, is the point of all this. People aren't worried about doing the right thing. People aren't voting for the best people for the job. They are cheerleading for their team.

And the team captains are LOVING the growing divide because it means more fundraising, more PACs, more 527s, more consultants, more air time...more power for the machine, (R) or (D).

If you're cheerleading your team just because they're yours...you are part of the problem.

My $0.02 anyway...

I wouldn't support Pelosi as President for a split second. She's wholly unqualified.

Also - there is no Democratic plan to make that happen. There is no Democratic plan to kick Bush and Cheney out of office.

You're such a disengenous dink Lee...and look into John Conyers from Michigan. Either you wish to turn the cheek or you really don't know jack since he's been getting himself ready for impeachment hearings.

(2) Judges: Robert and Alito

Good point. I like both of these gentlemen...excellent point, thank you for reminding me.

JimK

If you need to be reminded of the important things, and supporting your fellow Americans while they are fighting overseas, ans who don't NEED the Cin C impeached while they're trying to win it-

Well you are not worth it, we don't need you, and the Republicans need to stop catering to you and your ilk.

Whiners and haters-go join the Democrats-that's their bag not appreciating, complaining 24/7 and always searching out the negative.

The most they've got going for them is a palpable hatred and if you are not bothered by that -

then there is something wrong with YOU.

"Now Republicans can clearly see how their party is the party of hate and fear-mongering." - Lee

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"I HATE Republicans and everything they stand for" - Howard Dean.

Lee, would you please stop confusing your own party's leaders with ours? You look like a dang fool when you do that.

Ah - I knew Lee couldn't resist and his opening paragraph was a real pearl.

"How sad it must be to have your party reduced to the lesser of two evils."

How sad it must be for his party to be the worst of two evils. hahaha.
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And I'm still having trouble understanding Sturm's "we" statements.

"What in the hell would it take to satisfy you people."

A good question but one with an obvious answer: nothing would EVER staisfy them. When gas prices go up they complain that Bush' oil buddies are gouging the American consumer. When they go down they complain that Bush and his oil buddies are rigging the election. Remember when John Kerry said Bush should "jawbone" the Saudis on 2004? Then the prices came down and it was an election trick. LOL.

They complained that not enough jobs were being created then when the number went up they wailed that the jobs didn't pay enough.

They say they champiion the poor but attack Walmart which provides the materials that poor people can afford (and provides jobs to them).

It's a useless effort to try and satisfy liberals. Hillary couldn't. What makes us think anybody else can.

Oyster-

That's just a reflection of that selfish, know it all attitude....

Only he and his views reflect the "base".