Wow, a conservative challenging peoples patriotism.

Anyways, most evident with Lady Vader's interview: she's a liar. Can't even be honest about her own book.

"And by the way, yes, the war in Iraq is part of the war on terror."

Funny that you wingnuts have to keep repeating that -- everyone knows its a lie, but I guess you think if you repeat the lie often enough you might convince a few voters.

The Republican spin on Lynne Cheney and Bill O'Reilly flailing about on national television is a riot. Cheney comes off looking like an idiot, and O'Reily does her one better -- looking like his usual lying idiot.

Note that Kim linked to a brief, edited version of Lynne Cheney on CNN. Watch the full, unedited first 10 minutes for the full effect of her dismal performance.

She takes such a beating I'm surpised she didn't just pull out a shotgun, swing it in Blitzer's direction, and start quacking....

Gosh Lee, you sure do seem a little insecure. You and your little trolls buddies are the running scared ones. All your bloviating isn't going to pay off sprout.

Funny that the first two posts here are from the scum of the earth. Jp2, you should be bitchslapped for what you said about Lynne Chaney. Her defecation has more class than you do. This is just a suggestion. Please go infest elsewhere. I listened to the whole Blitzer Chaney interview on the radio. Wold tried, but he got his ass handed to him. He did not answer the questions she asked, but he did flub. He denied using, then later called the sniper film propagada. Sorry, one film cannot be both not and be propagada.

"She takes such a beating I'm surpised she didn't just pull out a shotgun, swing it in Blitzer's direction, and start quacking...."

Keep on speaking Lee because you're hitting them where it hurts!

Keep on speaking Lee because you're hitting them where it hurts!

Posted by: truthseeker2 at October 29, 2006 02:12 PM

Lee fantasizing from his little world doesn't count as the "truth" trollboy. And I sincerely doubt Lee is hurting anyone.

Lynne Cheney ripped Blitzer to shreds, splattered him all over his chair and Blitzer sat there with his normal "ah, ah, ah..." defense.

And the liberals all know it....

In fact, Lee can't even carry on a dialoge beyond one post because all liberals lose when the facts speak in truth....

By the way Lee, I DID watch the whole 10 minutes...

There were a number of interruptions at the sound of Blitzer's jaw hitting the desk....

And why is Blitzer so mean, antagonistic, and full of hate? Lynne Cheney is a class act and 1000 times smarter than hilLIARy....

Would LOVE to see those two in a debate.

Lynne Cheney for President!!!

I don't question their patriotism.

You can't question something that does not exist.

When someone has trouble answering that simple question, "Do you WANT us to win?" it is pretty darned clear which side they are on - they are only afraid of revealing the truth.

Also, only a moonbat moron could view the Blitzer-Cheney exchange and not realize he got his head handed to him.

steak

Fact is: The American people has seen through all of the Republican BS and now they're trying to cover the stench. Sorry.... the smell is already out there.

Truthseeker. What a joke. Why are you looking for something you have not the knowledge to recognize? Fool that you are, you call lies truth and the truth lies. Go figure. The only BS is comming from your side. Why is that?

Fact is: The American people has seen through all of the Republican BS and now they're trying to cover the stench. Sorry.... the smell is already out there.

Posted by: truthseeker2 at October 29, 2006 02:43 PM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"truthseeker" (sweet): So let me get this straight. You're saying the Amercian people are trying to cover a Republican stench caused by BS? What American people? How are these "American people" covering this "stench?" Wha?
The Sixties and Seventies weren't very kind to you, were they comrade?

BTW, unless you did too many 'shrooms like our little friend "truthseeker," you know Mrs. Cheney ripped Wolf a new one. Wasn't even close.

Listen

The Republicans are trying to cover their own BS stench. Got that??? The American people are tired of it and want a new direction.

What have the Republicans done for six years besides spend money?? Now, since it's election time... they're back to bringing out the old scare tactics...again. Is that clear enough for you?

Do you want us to win??? What A-holes. That's the question they need to be asked.

Do you want us to win?

Then how come you support record debt, lobbyist running amuck, privatization of the web, record corruption, a weakening dollar, huge trade imbalances, a mismanaged war, soldiers dying and getting maimed for a lie, fear mongering, chickenhawks, corporatists, war profiteering, smear campaigns, a divided America, loss of liberties, torture, violations of the Geneva conventions, an end to Habeus corpus, a terrible reputation around the world, war crimes, illegal wiretaps, increased wealth concentration, rising poverty, soaring gas prices, soaring medical cost, , 60,000,000 uninsured, neglect of the environment, denial of global warming, shipping jobs overseas, union busting, media conglomeration, off-shore accounts, privatized voting machines, privatized military....you support all this undermining of our great nation to benefit a few greedy scumbag sellouts and you have the fricken nerve to ask US if we want to win?

muirgeo

I hope just once

They heard you loud and clear!

Pfffttt. "Do you want the US to win?" Same old playbook. Somebody criticizes government action, so head for the ol' ad hominem and hope nobody notices.

And for the record -- it's not about winning or losing in Iraq any more. It's about managing Iraq, a task much more complex than a simplistic binary question.

--|PW|--

muirgeo: WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!

record debt - let's cut the ENTITLEMENTS...and wipe out the DEBT!!
lobbyist running amuck - you mean lobbyists being PROSECUTED...right??
privatization of the web - hey, if you want a GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED Web then move to China, Iran, etc...
record corruption - Let's let William "Ice Man" Jefferson have his day in court first, eh?
a weakening dollar - Dude, our economy is VERY healthy...especially when compared to, well, our competition!
huge trade imbalances - fact of life...see "Minimum Wage"
a mismanaged war - and your "expertise" says we should do WHAT?
soldiers dying and getting maimed for a lie - the LIE, is YOURS...PERIOD!
fear mongering - Whoa, Dude, the Dimocrats claims of this being the Fourth Reich make this a DIMOCRAT problem!!
chickenhawks - you Lefties love this term...but it is meaninless!
corporatists - WTF?????
war profiteering - by whom? remember, selling materials to prosecute a war is NOT "profiteering"
smear campaigns - The DIMS INVENTED these...and are masters at it. I don't like 'em when either side does it.
a divided America - blame AL F'ing GORE for this!!! His incessant whining for now SEVEN YEARS has not allowed the 2000 election to EVER be over!!
loss of liberties - which ones?? Sure, you can't call your alQueda buddies up and chat freely, but otherwise...what??
torture - most overused word in the English language! Loud music may SEEM like torture...but it aint!
violations of the Geneva conventions - ADHERENCE to the Geneva Convention you mean!!
an end to Habeus corpus - REALLY? An end? Nope...just for foreign terrorists, moron!
a terrible reputation around the world - and a world press that ensures it!! remember singing in the streets on 9/11? I do. they weren't pissed at Bush yet.
war crimes - prove it
illegal wiretaps - see "alQueda buddies" comment above
increased wealth concentration - so have Kerry and Kennedy SHARE!!!
rising poverty - horseshit! our "poor" are the envy of the world!! and they have a chance to move up and out of it!!
soaring gas prices - been to a gas station lately?
soaring medical cost - first step: end frivolous lawsuits...then re-evaluate
60,000,000 uninsured - a made up number
neglect of the environment - examples?
denial of global warming - a made up "thing"
shipping jobs overseas - a world economy!
union busting - yippee!!!!!
media conglomeration - break up CNN, LA and NY Times, etc
off-shore accounts - have Kerry close HIS!!!
privatized voting machines - boy...you are NUTS!!
privatized military - you want to bring back the draft???

You donkeys! Your masters have found a new soundbite to replace "stay the course" and of course you think it's oh so clever. If it weren't for the fact that your idiocy is killing hundreds of thousands of people, it would all be funny.

The question "Do you want us to win" is pointless. It doesn't matter what anyone wants - you can't win in Iraq. No one can. Everyone is losing in this war, except big business and their representatives - people like Cheney. And that's the only way it could have turned out once you morons unleashed this appalling mess.

But go on. Carry on ignoring reality and enjoy your little slogans.

cat: "you can't win in Iraq. No one can."

Wow...it is getting harder and harder to tell the Democrats...from the Terrorists...from the plain old MORONS!!

Then again, there wasn't much difference to begin with!

Hey muirgeo, pendejo. How does your ass feel? Don't know? Well, take a good look at it, it's thatr thing in your hands.

Cat, I understand your confusion. We would look like donkeys to a bunch of JACKASSES.

Cry children , let it all out. And for the record , you all suck at lying. You'll never be like Slick Willie, BJ Clinton. Your incompetant party killer exposing for all to see , the democrat party of criminal frauds.

Oh oh, Muirego. Looks like someone handed you your ass just like Lynne Chaney kicked Wolf Blitzer's. When are you and your al-Qaeda loving buddies going to admit defeat? November 8th?

Ok ok ok....this liberal wants us to win.

All you have to do to make that happen is vote this pathetic do-nothing, corrupt republican congress out. That will be the start and much more will come.

Justrand, you are not serious when you say global warming is made up are you? Because if you are, it makes you look like a complete moron, and someone who probably spends most of his free time trying to prove that the earth is flat.

And BTW, I am for the draft, because I think It would stop the war-cry from you chicken hawks, and force you to bring our boys home.

As for your "do you want us to win?" question. If the US you refer to, is you and your money grubbing,boy chasing,draft dodging party; the answer is NO, I don't!!

Entertaining! A rightie responds to legitimate points of discussion with such insightful nuggets as "you're lying!", "whoa dude!", and "WTF?" And then the other righties rally around him for so succinctly handing the other guy his ass. Hmmph. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that "you moron!" is viewed as thoughtful consideration on the right.

Ok ok ok....this liberal wants us to win.

All you have to do to make that happen is vote this pathetic do-nothing, corrupt republican congress out. That will be the start and much more will come.

Posted by: Hugh at October 29, 2006 06:02 PM

That's right Hugh, much more will come: higher taxes, defeatism, cowardice, and of course that Democratic favorite, appeasement to any enemy who threatens us. Just like Vietnam you'll demoralize our troops and encourage our enemies, being as usual, unable to identify evil and unwilling to confront it. Meanwhile, your support for socialism and your hate for anything or anybody that dares acknowledge God will remain as rabid as always.
Oh yeah, let's not forget your support for gay marriage, and your ever-present zeal for the uncontrolled mass-murder of millions of unborn children - that will certainly strengthen us, won't it?
Your party's politics are Godless, shortsighted, and lethal to the survival of this country. Simply pathetic.

field negro: "you are not serious when you say global warming is made up are you?"

ya know, last year we had a terrible hurricane season, and the GLOBAL WARMING nuts were out in full kit screaming the end is nigh!

THIS year we had one of the MILDEST hurricane seasons on record. If LAST year's huuricanes were CLEAR EVIDENCE of "Global Warming", then what about the LACK of hurricanes this year??

As for the FLUCTUATION, plus or minus, in the Earth's temperature, and mankind's contribution to it...THAT remains more speculation than fact.

The volcano in the Phiilpines a couple years back put out MORE CO2 in ONE DAY than all of mankind does in ONE YEAR!!

I AM concerned about mankind's effect on the environment, but am WAY more realistic about it than you. Good read with LOTS of excellent links is "State of Fear". pick up a copy

Brian: "A rightie responds to legitimate points of discussion..."

actually I responded to keyboard projectile vomiting!!

and ya, after responding to 30th or so chunk of "stuff" I got bored and got a little whimsical. sue me (a kneejerk Dimocrat reaction anyway)

Amazing, this post drew nearly all the local locos. You, Brian, Hugh, Muirego, Field Negro, Lee and JP2 are one instance in fact where the sum total of your combined presense is less then your actual number. In other words, the more of you that are here, the less effective your squak. Lee, your crow is ready to be shipped to you for you to comsume on November 8th.

privatized military - you want to bring back the draft???

Posted by: Justrand

Justrand I could smack you from here to next Sunday on each and everyone of these topics you poor ignorant fool.

I'm absolutely for the draft....NO EXEMPTIONS!!!! NONE!!!
BRING IT ON!!!

muirgeo: "I'm absolutely for the draft....NO EXEMPTIONS!!!!..."

The professionalism, patriotism and splendid capabilities of our military really do get under the Left's collective skin!!

Makes smearing them harder, knowing they're ALL volunteers!!

Volunteering for the Marines was one of the best things I ever did. I worked my ass off for eight years, and gave them all they asked for and more.

muirgeo, your military background is...???

Posted by: Rob LA Ca. at October 29, 2006 04:54 PM

Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III

Let me know which one of those silly replies of Justrand you like best and I'll smack you down with facts and logic to make you uninformed head spin.

Your party's politics are Godless, shortsighted, and lethal to the survival of this country. Simply pathetic.

Posted by: Peace Moonbeam

So God supports endless war and tax cuts for the wealthy while neglecting the poor does he? Did he tell you that or did you here it at the local mega-church?

muirgeo, your military background is...???

Posted by: Justrand

4 years in the Air Force reserve and 7 years on active duty. Served during the first Gulf War and discharge honorably with the Rank of a Major.

That's more years service then Cheney, Rove, Bush, Limbaugh and Rummy combined.

Oh my God, Classless News Network got more than they bargained for! Ms. Cheney smoked Wolf's ass before handing it back to him.

You guys will be lucky to get the House in the elections. At best, by a few votes. No one is buying your tripe, even if they are worried about the war.

It's the Forrest Gump Party--the Democrats. "Oh, look, we won the House and Nancy Pelosi can order her new drapes. It's like a box of chocolates . . .duh?" Nothing you guys are running on is mainstream except the relentless negativity after your pols saw which way the war was going, then they broke against it after being for it.

Air Force guys are a bunch of pussies--it's like the Country Club. Marines and Army are real warriors. Everybody knows that.

muirgeo: "4 years in the Air Force reserve and 7 years on active duty."

hmmm...I knwo, and have known, literally hundreds of men & women, of each branch and virtually every rank within them. I have NEVER had anyone list their RESERVE service first unless it was the LONGER service. 100% of those I have known would have typed that: "7 years on active duty, 4 years in the reseves".

But hey, there's a first time for everything.

approaching 100% of those who served in the all-volunteer military post-Vietnam are also vehemently opposed to a draft as well.

Still, there definately a chance that you actually DID serve. Major? hmmm...

As for the FLUCTUATION, plus or minus, in the Earth's temperature, and mankind's contribution to it...THAT remains more speculation than fact.

The volcano in the Phiilpines a couple years back put out MORE CO2 in ONE DAY than all of mankind does in ONE YEAR!!

Posted by: Justrand

field negro,

There's an easy way to shut up a dim wit like this on the subject of global warming. Just ask them for one significant peer reviewed scientific literature citation (from the mainstream literature) that supports their claims....then listen for the pin drop.....

Justrand you asked my military credentials I replied honestly. What's your scientific background? I've a BS in Chemistry with a minor in biology....I've studied the peer literature extensively reading Science, Nature, Proceeding of the National Academy of Science and Geophysical Research Letters and many others....Which journals do you read?

"mun-go" (linkman)--prove it--I believe you as much as the distance I could throw you. Anyone that has been in the military cannot be as frigging stupid as you.

"mun-go" (linkman) "peer"- Hiliarous. Prove it dumbass.

Still, there definately a chance that you actually DID serve. Major? hmmm...

Posted by: Justrand

Hey jack ass....there's not a chance....I SERVED!!!! Your silly made up reality and disrespect for the facts have no place here.

When there's a war we all really need to fight Americans will show up and support it. This is a war of control using terror to gain power. A real president and statesman like FDR would tell his countrymen, "We have nothing to fear but fear itself". A despicable sellout of a president will do like the terrorist themselves and use fear and terror to his own benefit and to the countries detriment.

I challenge you to listen to this Olbermann special comment on fearmongering.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/23/olbermanns-special-comment-on-gop-fearmongering/

Air Force guys are a bunch of pussies--it's like the Country Club. Marines and Army are real warriors. Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Mitchel

So Mitchel you were a Marine or Army soldier? I'm guessing neither because they both truly understand how dependent they are on cover from the air in any major operation. Grow up ya ignoramus.

Mitchell,
You really didn't mean this did you?

"Air Force guys are a bunch of pussies--it's like the Country Club. Marines and Army are real warriors. Everybody knows that."

Your talking about the branch of the military that kept Saddam in check for more than a decade after Gulf War I, the branch of the military that you wingnuts sighted as a reason we had to attack Iraq because they were shot at.

You can take it back now or forever be seen as a hateful anti-american. It might be time to get out the water board you creep.

Well, isn't it a bit of a stretch to equate the risk to a pilot at 20k feet, and a soldier in some shit hole with a bunch of dervishes over the next rise?

And, don't you think Mungo just demonstrated the truth of my statement? I mean, c'mon, he just cited crooksandliars.com and Keith Olbermann.

I don't see many Marines with similar interests.

I have not served in any branch of service, and would not be accepted in any due to various health problems. But I do know quite a few military guys, and have enough sense to know what goes on in the military, you big hairy asshole.

Marines have a better sense of humor, as well. Certainly more than you two Country Clubbers do.

Lynne is obviously as deranged and unhinged as her husband. Wolf should have asked her if she and her husband still like eating babies for lunch. That hag needs some of Rush's vicodin.

Still wating for proof that you served -m'g'

jhow66, I can't imagine Mung did, but if he did, he obviously had some sort of "conversion reaction" to his stint in the AF.

I mean, just look at his lazy, stupid posts. If this is the best we can do in the Air Force, we're all doomed (I don't think it is, by the way).

Muirego, I, for one, am tired of your lying BS. Why don't you put your head back where you usually keep it? Up your ass. You are truly the dumbest motherf*cker to post at this site. After reading what you have posted here, I am convinced you are not an adult. No matter what your age. Are you a paid troll or are you stupid enough to do what you do for free? Defeat Justrand on the topic of torture. By the way, waterboarding is not torture. Pulling out fingernails is. You are an idiot, shut up.

Amen, ZRIII.

He hasn't posted in a while. His Mother must have called up to his room and told him to get off that computer, and go to bed.

It's really all her fault. If she had been a Republican, 'lil Mungo would have been in Advanced Placement class, awaiting a berth in a fine University. As it is, Mung will have to opt for Earl Scheib's Painting School.

Oh, sorry, ZRIII. One correction to your post.

Mung is not the stupidest one posting here, although he comes remarkably close.

That spot goes to Herman, and then Lee as a close second. I can see Mung at 3rd or 4th most stupid, but let's all be clear that even when it comes to being stupid, he's not even good at that, like everything else he does here.

Sorry, I'm usually amen corner for you, mi amigo, but this time, ya just went too far.

Zelsdorf

Since you think waterboarding is not torture, how would you feel if it happened to you. Anytime a person is deprived of air it is torture,mister.

As we all see, your head is stuck up your @ss. Do us all a favor and pull it out? This war has created more terrorist. Plain as day.

"I challenge you to listen to this Olbermann special comment on fearmongering."

Posted by: muirgeo

I think you forgot to add "...and tell me he isn't a raving lunatic who should have stuck to sports."

60 million uninsured? Wow, it rose 20 million in the last week? Really?? lol.

Maybe we should have a draft. All the liberals would flee to Canada and we could finally be rid of them.

Please don't encourage Brian, Hugh, Muriego, and the other idiots to flee this blog. Seeing them smacked down like cockroaches is such a JOY to behold. :)

P.S. Seeing Wolf all flustered because he was finally in the hot seat was also a joy to behold.

Seems he knows he came off poorly, as he had his buddy Lou Dobbs come in and give him a pep talk on the air.

Bwahahahahaha...

off enjoying life, football and dinner...in that order!

So I missed muirgeo showing how this quote was an example of how to rally your people in time of war:
"We have nothing to fear but fear itself".

There WERE fine words that President Roosevelt spoke...in 1933!! He was NOT referring to WAR, but to fear regarding the ECONOMY!!

But morons like more-ego don't know zip about REAL history.

p.s. our economy is fine...though the Dimocrats and LameStreamMedia would LIKE us to fear it!

Wow, wear your military service on your sleeve - I got more USAF AD time and a paygrade higher than you Mongo. Does that make me superior? And as a USAF dude who's flown onto dirt runways at night with tracers guiding the way in the mountains of Somewheristan, I would like to remind those groundpounders that we all take our risks in different ways. For you Marquis de Sade-phobes, waterboarding has nothing on underwater egress training or HEEDS training. Now THAT's torture.

But I digress from the original slant of the post.

Oh yeah -- Nice to see you still have a Chuck Norris Roundhouse kick or two left Peace, long time no see.

There I go again, digressing.

Oh hell, no point feeding the trolls further...

The problem for the GOP is they haven't shown they can win. The more they try, the further they fall from their goals.

Sure I want to win, that's why I'll vote against those that have shown their inability to handle the problem.

Well said, Just John.

If you want to win, don't vote for the clowns that have spend the last four years losing!

Just John: "The problem for the GOP is they haven't shown they can win."

Win what? Control of Congress? Military conflict against a military foe?

Define your terms. You run the risk of Lee not humping your leg if you do...but that seems a small price to pay!

But if you mean "win in Iraq"...then your choice CNNOT be the Dimocrats, whose "plan" is:
(1) CUT
(2) RUn
(3) Blame Bush!

Good night folks...and trolls.

Not only did muirgeo list his (shorter) reserve time first, he also listed his rank as "Rank of a Major".

I spent 20 years in the AF and never once heard an officer refer to his rank that way. "Ended up with the Rank of Major", yes..."with the Rank of 'a' Major", no way.

He's a military fraud.

Regards...

Letterman is a coward just like John Murtha. Actually, Murtha is worse since he disgraced the uniform he used to wear. Something I couldn't imagine doing if I had ever served in the military.

There's your answer right there:

"As for your "do you want us to win?" question. If the US you refer to, is you and your money grubbing,boy chasing,draft dodging party; the answer is NO, I don't!!"
Posted by: field negro at October 29, 2006 06:20 PM

Thank you, field negro, for that wonderful insight. Finally, someone is honest. You see, because it's a Republican controlled government right now we should lose. Nevermind that it's still America you f**tards! Well gee whiz, let's ask this question, "Would you want us to win if it was the Democratic money grubbing,boy chasing,draft dodging party?" Don't try to tell me those labels can't be pinned on members of your party as well. You don't want America to win. You want the Democrats to win. Period.

You guys come in here thinking you're keeping Wizbang hosts honest by countering with some of your own partisan crap? The fact is - this is a conservative blog. They make no bones about it. They do not apologize for it, yet, somehow this makes you angry. Why? Do you go to lefty blogs and correct them when they're disseminating misinformation? I sincerely doubt it. You know why? Because you waltz in here with blinders on, get indignant and start spouting off like children who haven't given one iota of mental energy to a cogent debate. Because no matter what the left says or does, you give them a free pass.

You're angry because there are people who have different ideas than you. You can't imagine that you could possibly be wrong on any of it. You know it all, global warming, right war, wrong war. You know all about the economy, debts, deficits. You have an answer to every single issue out there. And you're right on every single one.

You shout LIAR! And run to the next post and shout LIAR! And run to the next post and shout LIAR! You don't want bipartisanship. You don't want honesty. You want silence if we don't agree with your leftward vision. You come into every.single.post to show your disgust and pee in the corner hoping to run off anyone who wants to discuss issues in a manner you don't like.

I even considered not coming back here because I'm so sick and tired of your penny ante sniping and attacks on the integrity of others. If you get attacked back, well, you started it. Afraid we haven't gotten your message? We got your message a long time ago. Now it just sounds like, "Barkbarkbarkbark."

I was gone most all day yesterday - but i see Justrand, Peace, Zelsdorf, Jo, Loadthemule, Kirk, and Oyster wrapped it up....

....with the truth.

....and ONCE AGAIN exposing the lies of the liberals.

Great Pearls Oyster.

Only I'd say its more like the whine of a scolded puppy than a barkbarkbarkbarkbark.

Oyster cracked.

It's a cracker joke, get it field-negro? Oyster crackers.

This one interview cost the Libs big time.

I'll be surprised if CNN keeps Blitzer around. He really embarressed himself....

"Thank you, field negro, for that wonderful insight. Finally, someone is honest. You see, because it's a Republican controlled government right now we should lose"

Ahhh yes!!! And the sooner you lose the better.
BTW, are you cooking some of that crow for me too? If you are, I hope you like your own cooking.

I loved all the mudslinging after muirgeo-who actually served-stated his credentials. The nerve of people like Mitchell who never served a day in his live-that medical deferment must have been for a mental condition- criticizing a true patriot!

As for proving he was in the service to you cowards; why should he? Why don't you prove all the bull&%*t you like to state as fact?

Oh, that's right, you can't, because you are a bunch of right wing demented lunatics who live in make believe world, and who chooses to view the world from an authoritarian fringe.

"I'll be surprised if CNN keeps Blitzer around"

Steak, you're such a shilling meathead. Care to make a wager on that? How about you go away and never come back if Blitzer is still on CNN's air on election day?

Too soon? How long, meathead? How long before CNN gives Blitzer the axe? Just set a date and promise to go away if he's still on CNN, and I'll promise to go away if he's axed.

Come on. Big chance for you to get rid of me from this blog. You'll be King of the Meatheads.

Come on... take the bet.

You're not steak, you're chicken.

You really think i care what you say? HAHAHA

You sound like a snotty little girl with your name-calling.

Blitzer is toast now that Lynne Cheney burnt him good....

Remember this was about comparing books..It came about because Allen brought out sections of one of the books Webb wrote...forget Webb..he is just another purple band-aid Dem..
http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=113303&ran=33810

Hey Steak - are you ready to take the challenge?... or are you just chicken!

Lee, I have a life. I could care less what Blitzer does during his early retirement....

I would be SOOOOO embarressed if i were him.

Never mess with Lynne Cheney! HAHAHA

I didn't ask you if you cared, Chickenboy -- I asked you to back up your claim -- you weren't just talking out of your *ss, were you?

Steak said:

"This one interview cost the Libs big time."

"I'll be surprised if CNN keeps Blitzer around. He really embarressed himself...."

So name a date for Blitzer to be gone, meathead, and if you're right I'll leave this blog forever.

cluck, cluck?

Nah, Blitzer won't be gone. He'll get the "Fox ambushed you." defence propped up for him.

You, know the one right after the Chewbacca defense.

Justrand,

I must have missed it....your opinions on climate change/ global warming come from reading which science journals?

field negro: You're a little too quick to imagine what I might have said instead of reading what I actually said - or you're deliberately twisting it around for your own purposes.

I was not talking about Republicans losing elections. I was talking about America losing the war. Because regardless of what you think, America is at war. Whether you like it or not.

Furthermore, I happen to enjoy my own cooking, as do others. And I've eaten crow before, yet, I don't know why you seem to think that I will have any reason to. I've made no predictions about the outcome of this election. You, on the other hand, have.

60 million uninsured? Wow, it rose 20 million in the last week? Really?? lol.

Posted by: Jo

Here's the best number I could find. And yes it has consistently been rising and the number of under-insured is sky-rocketing as well.

From the Census Beureua

http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf

In 2005, 46.6 million people were
without health insurance coverage,
up from 45.3 million people in
2004 (Table 8).

I spent 20 years in the AF and ....

Posted by: LoadTheMule

Yeah sure you spent 20 years in the AF....LOL!!!

Actually, Murtha is worse since he disgraced the uniform he used to wear. Something I couldn't imagine doing if I had ever served in the military.

Posted by: Kirk

So Murtha's a coward and you never would have been such a coward had you served???.....This my friends is the republican logic that's running your country. And if you were the President you'd be a good decider too...ummm? DOPE!

You're angry because there are people who have different ideas than you. You can't imagine that you could possibly be wrong on any of it. You know it all, global warming, right war, wrong war. You know all about the economy, debts, deficits. You have an answer to every single issue out there. And you're right on every single one.

Posted by: Oyster

Oyster you should turn some of those questions towards yourself. Could you be wrong on some of this stuff? I mean the earth 6,000 years old???

Seriously, I blog on conservative blogs to have my views challenged. Factually, logically and even theoretically I've found little substance on the conservatives side to make me feel my positions are challenged.

Name calling, poorly thought through ideology and unsubstantiated claims seems to be all the conservatives have to offer.

muirgeo,

Actually, it was 20 years, 2 months, and 8 days--not that I'm counting. Any of which is demonstrably more time than you spend in anything other than a Boy Scout uniform (if that).

Regards...

If you are serious about steamy frontier lovin' but can't afford the prices on ebay, the entire shebang can be downloaded here:

http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/lynne-cheney-sisters-compl...

That's right - the link to download Lynne Cheney's lesbian love novel. I thought she represented "traditional American values"? Hahaha - yet another completely phoney right-winger.

The only thing that amazes me is that there are still idiots out there (including many on this site) that buy into the bullshit spewed by Bush, Cheney, et al. WAKE UP! THEY'RE ALL SNAKE OIL SALESMEN, FOLKS!!

Poor Lee blathered:

Steak, you're such a shilling meathead. Care to make a wager on that? How about you go away and never come back if Blitzer is still on CNN's air on election day?

How about a different wager ? You've stated that you believe that the Democrats will 'win' this mid-term election cycle. If the Democrats take both Houses of Congress, I'll no longer post here. If they don't take both Houses of Congress, you stop posting here and Wizbang can find a new village idiot. Deal ?

privatized military - you want to bring back the draft???

Posted by: Justrand at October 29, 2006 04:10 PM

Yeah - I think we should bring back the draft and the first to go should be all the paper tigers who've supported Bush on this wasted war, but have decided to sit it out. What cowards.

So, Justrand, are you writing these posts from your barracks in Baghdad, or are you one of those paper tigers?

Muirgeo, I understand the problem with "Name calling, poorly thought through ideology and unsubstantiated claims seems to be all the conservatives have to offer."

It's tough to have a conversation with people who have 'unsubstantiated claims' and the like.

Somebody on here posted an 'unsubstantiated claim' of 60,000,000 uninsured in the US and you hit them with the fact that the number wasn't 60,000,000, but only 46,600,000. Way to expose those 'lying' conservative.

Now who was that 'liar'?

muirgeo,

Actually, it was 20 years, 2 months, and 8 days--not that I'm counting. Any of which is demonstrably more time than you spend in anything other than a Boy Scout uniform (if that).

Regards...

Posted by: LoadTheMule

As if giving the exact number of days you served some how verifies it as fact.
I don't actually doubt you one bit. Just pointing out how this typifies the cons debate style. You and others say you served so it must be true likewise you are somehow an authority on my sevices based on the way I wrote my post.

You have no honor or respect for others or for the facts. You support the troops if they are conservatives....the purple heart is only meaningful if awarded to some one who thinks like you ect ect....

muirgeo,

Actually, it was 20 years, 2 months, and 8 days--not that I'm counting. Any of which is demonstrably more time than you spend in anything other than a Boy Scout uniform (if that).

Regards...

Posted by: LoadTheMule

As if giving the exact number of days you served some how verifies it as fact.
I don't actually doubt you one bit. Just pointing out how this typifies the cons debate style. You and others say you served so it must be true likewise you are somehow an authority on my sevices based on the way I wrote my post.

You have no honor or respect for others or for the facts. You support the troops if they are conservatives....the purple heart is only meaningful if awarded to some one who thinks like you ect ect....

60,000,000, but only 46,600,000. Way to expose those 'lying' conservative.

Now who was that 'liar'?

Posted by: engineer

I didn't lie about it. I was given a contrary number and I verified the actual number and posted it right here for all to see.

That's called honoring true debate and the facts. Now is the fact of 46 million Americans and increasing by greater then 1 million /year under Bush OK with you?

Do you wanna focus on my admitted error or the factual number?

I read dumb people

Some recently-minted troll named _Mike_ belched: "How about a different wager ? You've stated that you believe that the Democrats will 'win' this mid-term election cycle. If the Democrats take both Houses of Congress, I'll no longer post here. If they don't take both Houses of Congress, you stop posting here and Wizbang can find a new village idiot. Deal ?"

Nope, that's as sucker bet. The GOP has Diebold in their back pocket, and the Senate is really close. I think the Dems will win both House and Senate, but I'm not willing to bet on it.

record corruption - Let's let William "Ice Man" Jefferson have his day in court first, eh?
a weakening dollar - Dude, our economy is VERY healthy...especially when compared to, well, our competition!

Posted by: Justrand

Here's one that I meant to respond to.

Subpoenas from congress to investigate the Clinton Administration;

over 300

Subpoenas from congress to investigate the Bush administration.

0 ZERO

Like you have any idea WTF you're talking about Justrand...Again those science journals you read???

Hey,
Whatever happened to the thread about Lynne Cheney lying live on CNN about her book "Sister" not being about steamy lesbian love? Not that there's anything wrong with it.

PS
Check out the official Lynne Cheney WH bio on-line. Only 6 of her 9 novels are listed. No mention of "Sisters".

PSS
"Sisters" by Lynne Cheney is now going for over $200 a copy on e-bay.

a weakening dollar - Dude, our economy is VERY healthy...especially when compared to, well, our competition!

Posted by: Justrand

This is probably way too much for your short attention span, reading level and comprehension abilities since it's not a sound bite but here it is anyway;

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,druck-440054,00.html

Interesting posts these days. Pretty obvious the wingnuts are getting worried. Fun to watch. Better the comics. Oyster is pooping his pants cause some folks visit he doesn't like. Truth hurts eh?

Mitchell, having finished speaking to the one liberal he knows resorts to high school locker insults. Thought you were a lawyer??Doubt it seriously,,,i think you're a high school senior Young Republican and you try to make your insults and effete snobbery sound better than most. Ah,,,,,your momma wore combat boots. Why don't you just say it.

The usual lunatic fringe who advocate violence against the left or anyone else they don't like are, well, being the lunatics they are.

The last argument you wingnuts can make is to YELL, yes I said YELL HYPOCRITE. That's all you have. You can't win on much of anything. The war is in shambles. Your hero president doesn't know if was for stay the course before he was against it. The corruption in the republican congress smells like a sewer. The do-nothing republican congress passes stupid legislation to build a wall but no money to build it. The rich keep getting richer and the rest of the country takes it up the ass.

So, what's left? All you can do is go nah nah nah nah or hypocrite, hypocrite, pt it's not our fault it's Clinton's (soon he will be single handily responsible for Katrina). You mock people's service to the country and call them america haters. You support racist ads and racist attacks when it comes to election time.

The desperation is so obvious. Your party and your philosophy is bankrupt. Just look at the threads on Wizbang. Hardly a peep from the nut writers about issues. They can't say anything because they have nothing to say.

The party of xenophobia and race baiting; the party of Limbaugh and Coulter and Savage and O'Reilly; the party that doesn't want to accept or discuss dissent; the party for doing away with the things like basic human rights that this country has stood for from the beginning.

Please don't respond with the you hate america bullshit or the you love terrorist bullshit or the you want america to lose bullshit. Those very beliefs on your part is the underpinning of the collapse of your failed movement.

"Could you be wrong on some of this stuff? I mean the earth 6,000 years old???"

Muirgeo: I don't, and haven't claimed, to know all the answers. So your idea of questioning my integrity is to imply that I need to answer the question about the age of the Earth or some other extreme notion? WTF?

If you have something to say about me - read: "me" - then say so plainly instead of quoting the most far out claim you can come up with and assume I agree because you think I'm some sort of enemy that needs to be put in her place. That's pathetic.

Anyone with an opinion can find supportive evidence to bolster their claim. But naming any opposing evidence a crackpot-theory or challenging the integrity of those with opposing ideas with assumptions about them you couldn't possibly know is really bad.

And let me be clear about this: if anyone is offended by my earlier tirade, they probably should be.

chickenhawks - you Lefties love this term...but it is meaninless!

Justrand

Meaningless? Tell that to the families of our dead soldiers ordered to combat for a lie by chickenhawks or to the 10,000 disfigured for the same. You don't support our military you support The Chickenhawk Brigaide and your Party over the soldiers and the country.

Chickenhawk: Some one who has NOT been there and done that telling others to go there and do it.

privatized voting machines - boy...you are NUTS!!

Posted by: Justrand

That's a reply?? Boy are you uninformed. You should watch the show below.

http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&FOCUS_ID=633258

Live@9 and Lee's brain, package deal, are going for $.02 at Ebay. Throw in Mungo's and they'll give you the deal for free.

Another assumption by Hugh about truth. Newsflash Hugh - I'm not worried. Do I want a Dem controlled Congress? No, I don't. But worried? No. What will be, will be. We'll deal with it either way. If the Dems take the house then maybe the Republicans will learn a lesson. If the Republicans keep the house, the Dems won't learn a thing. They'll just start shouting "fraud" again.

Mitchell,
Ouch, that hurts. Do you still believe that 1/4 of our armed services (Air Force) are "pussies"? I'm still waiting for my retraction, otherwise everything you write will be dismissed by me as the ranting of an American Air Force hater.

If you have something to say about me - read: "me" - then say so plainly instead of quoting the most far out claim you can come up with and assume I agree because you think I'm some sort of enemy that needs to be put in her place.

Believing the Earth is 6,000 years old is not exactly "the most far out claim" one can come up with. Ok, it is pretty out there in terms of plausibility, but in terms of what people actually believe, not so much.

It's not easy to find a poll that asks people how old they think the Earth is, but about 45% of Americans believe humans were created by God in their present form sometime in the past 10,000 years. This number has not changed significantly in over 20 years, and those who believe this do so no doubt because it jibes with their religious convictions/education. In order to believe this you have to reject evolution and the dating techniques used on fossils. And if you reject those, you most likely reject the techniques used to date the planet and the universe. Plus, if you believe humans were created as the bible states, then it only logically follows that you believe the Earth was created on the same timeframe. In any case I think it's safe to assume that a very large number of Americans believe the Earth was created in past 10,000 years.

I have no data on the beliefs of Wizbang readers/commenters. Hopefully they're not as stupid as the general public.

Lee blathered mindlessly:

Nope, that's as sucker bet. The GOP has Diebold in their back pocket, and the Senate is really close. I think the Dems will win both House and Senate, but I'm not willing to bet on it.

Typical, you lack the conviction to put your 'money' where your oversized mouth is.

Do you have evidence to support your assertion (Diebold) or are you lying ? If you have evidence, I suggest you take it to the Atty. General; otherwise, you're just another mindless, lying conspiracy quack. The smart money is on the latter.

Perhaps I wasn't clear, Mantis. But thanx for the dissertation anyway. My point was that Muirgeo apparently finds the claim to be "out there".

Please take a look at this. Would this not be on par with Rathergate if true?

CNN is preparing an all out anti-GOP assault the last few days before the election?
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_prowler.asp

Washington Prowler

Democrat Slowdown Signs -- Except at CNN

WOLF DEMOCRATS
Lots of headscratching was going on Friday evening and over the weekend about the decision by CNN producers and uberanchor Wolf Blitzer to blindside former colleague (she hosted "CNN Crossfire" back in the day) Lynn Cheney.

Aside from using questions culled from talking points on the Jim Webb scandal provided to a CNN associate producer by the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, Blitzer, -- without checking out the veracity of the talking points -- quizzed Cheney about the techniques used against suspected terrorists and her views on the Bush Administration. Cheney had been invited to discuss her new children's book, but came prepared to battle Blitzer, and more than held her own.

Why was Blitzer so aggressive? "It was all about ratings, and the fact that we have this series of specials called 'Where the Right Went Wrong' running on the network," says the CNN insider.

Part of that series ran later Friday evening after Cheney's emasculation of Blitzer (video here).

In fact, CNN producers, with the approval of more senior executives, intend to run the highly politicized, pro-Democrat Party "Where the Right Went Wrong" in the days leading into Election Day. The series uses original reporting, as well as materials, including statistics and research developed by the DNC, MoveOn.org and the labor-funded 527, Americans Coming Together, though the those sources are never mentioned in the segments.

"There are people who are wondering why this is being run so close to election day," says the CNN employee. "The questions have been asked, but we haven't gotten a satisfactory answer. But as soon as we saw the Cheney segment, we knew what they were trying to do. It wasn't just about attacking Cheney. It was about building momentum for the other programming we are running. It's about counterprogramming Fox News."

Unlike you Lee, I have a REAL job....

I said, "I'll be surprised if CNN keeps Blitzer around." and if CNN is smart, they would.... Problem is, CNN isn't smart, and that's a GOOD thing.... Though i REALLY hope CNN keeps Blitzer, they'd be smart if they canned him.

And you never answered me - do you have a REAL job?

Hm You want another service with balls? Try the merchant marine. We're on ships SUPPLYING you thankless idiots on the ground, and we don't even have anything to protect ourselves with. The worst we can do is charge up our firemain and blast them with high pressure seawater.

Don't knock the air force, they're giving you dolts on the ground with air cover, as well as airlifting you idiots there, and giving you guys supplies and mail. Same goes true for the Navy and the Coast Guard. We're all on the same team, Mitchell.

Please stop harassing the Air Force. I'm inclined to believe Mur-go was in the air force, but I also believe that doesn't lend credit to his arguments.

Air Mobility Command
http://www.amc.af.mil
Military Sealift Command
http://www.msc.navy.mil

In a stunner, you didn't quite reveal the full story, muir.

That's called honoring true debate and the facts. Now is the fact of 46 million Americans and increasing by greater then 1 million /year under Bush OK with you?

From your link:
Number of people covered increased to 247.3M from 245.9M in 2005.

Ironic: Bush's highest level of uninsured people is still lower than Clinton's highest level (16.3% in 1998).

Hispanics were uninsured at a clip of 32% --- and, gee, that whole open borders thing is going to lower than number in the foreseeable future, huh?

Subpoenas from congress to investigate the Clinton Administration;

over 300

Subpoenas from congress to investigate the Bush administration.

0 ZERO

So Clinton was more corrupt. I am not arguing the point at all.

Oh, and I believe your claim of AF service is BS, but I don't really CARE, either. Soldiers are just as capable of treason as anybody.

After all, Benedict Arnold was one of our best military leaders in the Revolution. Doesn't mean the whole betrayal thing didn't happen.

The left's new belief that only a vet can run the military is one of the more absurd recent contributions to modern politics. I'm fairly certain the Dems REALLY don't want the military to have much of a voice in politics.

Well, if Gore's behavior in 2000 is an indication.

It's not easy to find a poll that asks people how old they think the Earth is, but about 45% of Americans believe humans were created by God in their present form sometime in the past 10,000 years.

The poll you cited is...what?
-=Mike

The poll you cited is...what?

Oops. Gallup, they've been tracking since '82.

"4 years in the Air Force reserve and 7 years on active duty. Served during the first Gulf War and discharge honorably with the Rank of a Major."

Muirgeo: Not that I am calling you a LIAR but do you mind telling me how you could have 11 years in (reserve and active) and leave a Major when you do not come up for Major in the Air Force until your 11th year? How bout you 'splain that one to me. And if you want to compare DD214s, I got 23 years in the Air Force (1973-1996) and retired an O5 (LTC).

The Big Question "Do you want us to win in Iraq"..??

First Mr. Dick Cheney famous "ticking bomb" scenario to justify torture of detainees and ignoring the over whelming sense of Congress to by articulately helping Bush issue a signing statement that "The executive branch shall construe the amendment, relating to detainees torture, in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President" and now Mr. Bill O'Reily asking us "Do you want us to win in Iraq?" to justify "staying the course" in Iraq without a well established exit strategy.

I hope the American people see the pattern emerging from these baseless arguments. I cannot speak for all American people but as far as I am concerned my response to Bill O'Reily question is, NO, Mr. Bill, I don't want to "win" in Iraq if it costs us ONE MORE AMERICAN LIFE. My conscience does not allow me to justify the death of any more American soldiers to honor the cause of our brave men and women who already lost their lives due to the lack of Iraq reconstruction planning by this administration. Mr. Cheney remarks, "It is my belief that be will be greeted as liberators" was dead wrong and it is unfortunate that Americans fail to question such a rational for preemptive invasion and put our soldiers in harms way.