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Rep. Mike Pence Wants to be Republican Leader

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WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Congressman Mike Pence (R-IN) today formally announced his campaign for Republican Leader in the U.S. House of Representatives. In a letter to his colleagues, Pence explained his platform and sought their guidance, advice and counsel.


Excerpts from Congressman Pence's letter to his colleagues follows (full dear colleague attached):

"I am running for Republican leader because we didn't just lose our majority, I believe we lost our way....

"Our opponents will say that the American people rejected our Republican vision. I say the American people didn't quit on the Contract with America, we did. And in so doing, we severed the bonds of trust between our party and millions of our most ardent supporters....

"Only by making a dramatic turn in the direction of the agenda of the Republican Revolution can we hope to attain majority status again..... We must again embrace the notion the Republicans seek power not simply to govern but change government. We are the agents of change and we must return to that reformist vision....

"I believe we must confront this moment with new leadership and new voices. We must take a page from the playbook of President Ronald Reagan who taught us that it is not enough to believe great things, we must effectively communicate great things to the American people..."


Comments (44)

Don't know anything about h... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Don't know anything about him or his convictions, but these are the statements that need to be said.

And the sharks fight over t... (Below threshold)
theExecutioner:

And the sharks fight over the leftover bloody scraps. Don't worry, there'll be more blood in the streets to go after. Our streets.

I applaud the sentiment, bu... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I applaud the sentiment, but I just have to ask, where is it coming from? Is it really true that yesterday Republicans didn't know they had "lost their way", but today they do? Is it fair to assume that if the Reps won, there would not be any such recognition that they have "severed the bonds of trust between our party and millions of our most ardent supporters"?

If this introspection had occurred a year ago, or even a year from now, it would be more legitimate. But I have to assume now that it's nothing more than post-election pandering. I hope I'm wrong.

As soon as Republicans show... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

As soon as Republicans show me they put the peoples interest ahead of multinational corporations and big money then I'll consider voting for them again...they have a long way to go.

The Republicans true ideology is not for democracy but of rule by the wealthy elite who, "know what's best" for the rest of us.
Money and greed ruled the day for the last 6 years and its blatantly apparent how bad it has been for our country.

If this introspectio... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:


If this introspection had occurred a year ago, or even a year from now, it would be more legitimate. But I have to assume now that it's nothing more than post-election pandering. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Brian

Good point Brian...but they were hoping a bad joke by John Kerry could make the difference....I mean it was a REALLY bad delivery on his part don't ya know?

It will take another electi... (Below threshold)
Jeff:

It will take another election with more GOP losses before any learning takes place.

I'd like to see all incumbents lose at the next primary.

I'd also like to see the pension program changed to a 401K program with matching 50 cents on the dollar for the first 6% saved.

I don't see why the American taxpayer should fund these bastards retirements when the average Joe has to save with a 401K. (most of them don't need the pension anyway. It's a disgrace).

Then again, maybe I'll run for office so I can get pension as Social Security will be gone by then.

If the GOP finally learns i... (Below threshold)
Jo:

If the GOP finally learns it's lesson then it will have been worth it. We didn't lose because we're conservative, we lost because we weren't conervative enough.

Brian:If ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Brian:

If this introspection had occurred a year ago, or even a year from now, it would be more legitimate. But I have to assume now that it's nothing more than post-election pandering. I hope I'm wrong.

It usually takes losing an election for this type of self-evaluation, which is why, in many ways, the results of the election are good for both Democrats and Republicans. Democrats will have a better shot at putting changes in place that they've wanted, and Republicans will realize they've fallen from their values over their 12 years in power and hopefully work to restore them.

I'm strangely optimistic about the results here. I definitely have my worries though.

It usually takes losing ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

It usually takes losing an election for this type of self-evaluation

That's why it would be believable if today began a period of introspection, with revelations and changes coming from Republicans after the process played out. But my point is that coming the very day after a loss means they've already done this self-evaluation in the past, but didn't bother to do anything about it. And if they won, they probably still wouldn't have done anything about it.

It's just that saying "we're on track" on Tuesday, but "we've lost our way" on Wednesday doesn't sound genuine.

If the GOP finally learns i... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

If the GOP finally learns it's lesson then it will have been worth it. We didn't lose because we're conservative, we lost because we weren't conervative enough.

Posted by: Jo


I think they lost because they were corrupt and incompetent.

I'd also suggest that a truly conservative agenda would be soundly rejected by the public because it will always result in redistribution of wealth to the already wealthy and a weakening of the middle class.

Its basically, factually and demonstrably a defunct ideology that is incompatible with democratic principals.

Well Muiergo, I don't want ... (Below threshold)
Amy:

Well Muiergo, I don't want rule by liberal elitists who "know what's best for us all" either. It should be MY decision how I spend my money, raise my kids, who I contribute to, how to strengthen my community, etc. NOT the liberal Democrats who want to take away from us and distribute how THEY see fit.

muirgeo,I think pe... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

muirgeo,

I think perhaps you were the military person Kerry was talking about.

It isn't "redistribution" to allow the people who actually earn the money to keep more of it.

It should be MY decision ho... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

It should be MY decision how I spend my money, raise my kids, who I contribute to, how to strengthen my community, etc. NOT the liberal Democrats who want to take away from us and distribute how THEY see fit.

Posted by: Amy


It should be your decision to do what you want if you live on you own island....you don't..you live in a democatic society where we vote how best to run our government and society.

Voting Republican is voting to give up rule by the people in favor of rule by Multinational Corporations who tell you how to raise your kids and how to spend your money.

I don't think a "truly" con... (Below threshold)
Brian:

I don't think a "truly" conservative agenda would necessarily be rejected, any more than a liberal one would. But the Bush agenda is not a conservative one, so we can't really know.

But Amy, you're wrong to think that Dems would impact any of those activities you cite any more than Reps already have. One difference might be that the Reps take money from you and distribute it to the rich, while the Dems distribute money to other people like you.

Please, Muirgeo, characteri... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Please, Muirgeo, characterizing that voting Republican is voting to give up rule by the people to rule by multinational corporations is getting tiresome. I feel that voting Democrat is potentially giving up rule by the people of the US under our Constitution to the rule of organizations such as the UN. The Republicans got spanked and deservedly so. This is not the first time a President has lost clout in a midterm election. The difference is that Republican introspection and self-flagellation has come almost immediately. The Democrats, well, based on recent precedent it takes, oh, about 6 years.

"post-election pandering"? ... (Below threshold)
IllTemperedCur:

"post-election pandering"? Hardly. This sort of self-evaluation is inevitable after losing an election. As I recall, there was plenty of similar self-evaluation after the last several elections that the Ds lost, especially in '04. Remember the chorus of Ds talking about how they lost in '04 because they weren't liberal enough? It's a vivid memory for me because I'd felt at the time that both parties had skewed to the extremes at the expense of the center, but that the Ds had gone further than the Rs.

Regardless, I think that we're all just a bit too close to the election to evaluate clearly. Rs need to work through their disappointment and Ds need to get through their gloating.

Please, Muirgeo, characteri... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Please, Muirgeo, characterizing that voting Republican is voting to give up rule by the people to rule by multinational corporations is getting tiresome.

Posted by: DaveD

I wonder if you've learned anything from the Enron scandals, the Abramoff scandals, the Halliburton scandals, the K-street project and guys like Duke Cunningham.....until money is removed from contaminating our democracy Republican and Democrats will never get the government they want. But fortunately lobby reform is priority #1 for Speaker Pelosi....I hope she her fellow democratic leaders and the Republican's follow through on it.

Tell me Muriego, where is t... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Tell me Muriego, where is the will and voice of the people when liberal judicial activists overturn their decisions at the ballot box?

So much for the will of the people if it's not in the liberal agenda.

I respectfully disagree. I... (Below threshold)
Amy:

I respectfully disagree. I certainly don't feel Republicans take my money and distribute it to the rich. I feel like Democrats take my money and distribute it to welfare recipients. I've argued this before-- I have no problem with welfare programs, but the abuse of these programs makes me ill. (It's not just welfare programs, I know, but much of Democratic sponsored programs have absolutely nothing to do with me, my family, or any interests of my family, or anything I personally believe in.) And I most definitely do not feel a Republican vote is a vote against a gov't by the people. Republicans in general want gov't to be LESS involved, not more involved. I think government should be about the people, and I really dislike Democrats deciding what is best for me.

Muirgeo, you know what, if ... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Muirgeo, you know what, if the Democrats put forward a lobbying reform bill that works I will be very happy. I don't care from whichever party effective legislation arises. We have seen indiscretions from both sides of the aisle - it is the most recent that we remember well. I have no doubt there will be a flurry of legislative activity after January 2007. The Democrats will likely want to get a fast start and the Republicans will not want to appear as obstructionists. I am anxious to see what happens. So let's have an even trade: I'll aggressively support lobbying reform to rein in the threat of multinational corporations if you aggressively support reform at the United Nations to help ease my concerns.

What I learned from the Enr... (Below threshold)
Jo:

What I learned from the Enron scandal is that it occurred under Clinton, and got prosecuted under Bush. Funny how that works.

I respectfully disagree. I ... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

I respectfully disagree. I certainly don't feel Republicans take my money and distribute it to the rich.

Posted by: Amy

Amy, sorry but that is an incredibly naive statement. I would argue that far more of your money is wasted on Corporate welfare then on public welfare.

Do you understand that your taxes dollars are going to pay for the Medicare Drug bill written by Pharmacy lobbyist. They are getting rich and YOU and I are paying for it.

I don't consider people like you who ignore these realities or accept them as being OK as true conservatives.

You continue to NOT recognize a big reason why Nancy Pelosi is now Speaker of the House.

muirgeo,I find bot... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

muirgeo,

I find both corporate welfare and individual welfare to be repugnant, and detrimental to the long term survival of a Democracy.

How about you?

Ask a simple question of th... (Below threshold)
theExecutioner:

Ask a simple question of the Anti-Americans like Muslim and John and they cut and run.

Debating you Anti-American foreign turds is WAY too easy.

muirgeo,I find bot... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

muirgeo,

I find both corporate welfare and individual welfare to be repugnant, and detrimental to the long term survival of a Democracy.

How about you?

Posted by: Sheik Yur Bouty


Yes to most corporate welfare but not with PROPER public welfare.

The welfare system should be set up as the old saying goes. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

And I say that not just because I'm a bleeding heart but because what benifits the poor benifits me and my country.....Education is the key!!!

I'll aggressively support l... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

I'll aggressively support lobbying reform to rein in the threat of multinational corporations if you aggressively support reform at the United Nations to help ease my concerns.

Posted by: DaveD

Deal!!

Let's try another. I'll support cutting tax rates 5% across the board if we get rid of ALL deductions. (this might need some fine tuning but you get what I mean)

And here is one for campaign reform. Get rid of all 527's and ALL media adds. Tax all contributions to political organizations over $100 dollars by 100% and use the rest to fund public campaigns. Require local and state and cable media to provide for multiple dbeates between the caniddates with a town hall forum and a moderator who only keeps response times even. (again probably needs some refinement but you get the general idea....seperate money and politics.

What I learned from the Enr... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

What I learned from the Enron scandal is that it occurred under Clinton, and got prosecuted under Bush. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Jo


And Halliburton, Abrhamoff, Cunningham, Foley ect.....You wanna solve problems or have a pissin match?

muirgeo,Yes, BUT, ... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

muirgeo,

Yes, BUT, anything the Federal government does is going to be heavy handed and inefficient.

IF you were to have PROPER public welfare, it should be done at the state and/or local level. And that's a big IF. I agree with you that education is key.

It isn't that I'm not a bleeding heart, but there is so much abuse of the current system. That needs to be cleaned up. There also needs to be mechanisms in place to enforce 'tough love' on those who could work, but chose not to, or just have more babies to get money out of the system.

That said, I'm not opposed to having some system to provide assistance to those who truly NEED it. I'm just not convinced that the Federal government is the best/most effective/most efficient use of the finite dollars available.

Republicans in general w... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Republicans in general want gov't to be LESS involved, not more involved.

No, conservatives want government to be less involved. And they are also for fiscal responsibility. But Republicans are no longer conservatives.

What I learned from the ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

What I learned from the Enron scandal is that it occurred under Clinton, and got prosecuted under Bush. Funny how that works.

And the economy started tanking under Clinton, and only became apparent under Bush. And 9/11 was hatched under Clinton, and only executed under Bush. And NoKo built a nuke under Clinton, and only detonated it under Bush. And hurricanes began under Clinton, and only destroyed New Orleans under Bush. Yeah, funny how that works.

I'll take DaveD's deal also... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

I'll take DaveD's deal also!

muirgeo,

I'm a consumption tax kind of guy. I have a feeling we may disagree, but I see any progressiveness in a tax structure as just punishing achievement.

I'm sure we can agree that there is a definite need for campaign finance reform! I see SUNSHINE as the best disinfectant. Complete and immediate disclosure of all monetary and in-kind contributions would help a lot. I don't think there should be limits on individual contributions. I don't think corporations should be allowed to give to politicians or parties AT ALL. I think we must do something to break the Dem/Rep stranglehold on the election process to allow more 3rd party participation.

Muirgeo,Do you think... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Muirgeo,
Do you think this would work? The salary, per diem allowance, housing, etc. for each legislator would have to come out of the respective State budget. Basically they would be an employee of the State as a rep to DC. Do you think this would maintain greater scrutiny on the behavior of individual legislators? Actually, I'm kind of serious.

Like I said, Enron corrupti... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Like I said, Enron corruption going on under Clinton, prosecuted by Bush's people.

For someone who is supposedly in bed with big corporations, there sure are a lot of prosecutions going on during on his (Bush's) watch.

Again, funny how that works.

i'd be on board with lobbyi... (Below threshold)
ke_future:

i'd be on board with lobbying reform if it also included unions. if you cut out the corporations from being able to lobby, to be fair you gotta do the same with the unions. i also agree on unlimited personal donations. why get rid of all media ads? and does that include media endorsements of candidates?

i'm all for getting rid of corporate welfare. out of curiosity what do you consider corporate welfare?

reforming the UN is 1) needed 2) never going to happen with France, China, and Russia on the Security Council. All three of those nations are are stuck in the 19th century of national self interest at the expense of the world interest.

sunshine yes! i'm a HUGE supporter of the porkbusters project.

pay for senate and representatives? give them the median income for their state. a plane ticket to DC at the beginning of the session, a plane ticket back at the end of the session, and put them up in a dorm while they are in DC.

muirgeo, would you support a flat tax with the first $x not taxed? with $x being, say the median income?

brian, nice misdirection th... (Below threshold)
ke_future:

brian, nice misdirection there at the end of your list.

the first 2 are indeed correct descriptions.

the 3rd is partially correct in that NoKo bamboozled Clinton with their "deal" that they immediately undermined and it took them until Bush's term before they had finished developing the technology. tho, i'll say that without China pressuring NoKo, there is no possible way for any incentives, threats, or sanctions to work against NoKo. and that's something that neither Clinton nor Bush could do much about.

the 4th is incorrect. but the blame you assign to the bush administratiion should also be directed the the state and local agencies. there was enough blame to go around on Katrina for things that happened before, during, and after the hurricane to cover everybody

I think we must do somethin... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

I think we must do something to break the Dem/Rep stranglehold on the election process to allow more 3rd party participation.

Posted by: Sheik Yur Bouty


Now here is something we might agree on as well. I think it's called instant run off voting. They use it in Australia and it gives 3rd parties and independents a chance.

http://www.chrisgates.net/irv/votesequence.html

ke_future,The prob... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

ke_future,

The problem with excluding the first $x is that unless you pay SOMETHING (i.e. you get it for free) then you don't really appreciate it and you take it for granted.

Everyone needs to pay some de minimis amount.

Muirgeo,Do you think... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Muirgeo,
Do you think this would work? The salary, per diem allowance, housing, etc. for each legislator would have to come out of the respective State budget. Basically they would be an employee of the State as a rep to DC. Do you think this would maintain greater scrutiny on the behavior of individual legislators? Actually, I'm kind of serious.

Posted by: DaveD

Dave,

I was just talking about publically funding the election or capaignss themselves not the candidates salary.

They do this in Arizona, Maine and one othe rstate and it works pretty well. California just had a vote on a similiar measure and it was soundly defeated for soem reason.....I think because big money campaigned hard against it.

http://www.publicampaign.org/

It will do the Republicans ... (Below threshold)
kaz:

It will do the Republicans good to wander in the political wilderness for a while. They've become corrupt and arrogant in power just like the Democrats did after 40 years.

It'll be a long time before the Republicans take back the house. We are liable to see a lot of them deciding to go work on K Street rather than run for re-election in the next cycle. That means more open Republican seats in the next cycle that wont be defended by incumbents.

I am happy to see Pence's c... (Below threshold)
kirktoe:

I am happy to see Pence's comments. Unlike liberals, when republicans lose some of them do some introspection and try and determine why they lost. Pence has done this and this is a great first step.

Ever since I first heard of him last year and some of the things he said, I thought he hasd the potential of being a new leader in the conservative movement.

Unlike liberals,... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Unlike liberals,

Oh, here we go! The Republicans were better winners, and now they're better losers, yeah? Well you know what? I don't care. You know what they call the world's best loser?

A loser.

when republicans lose so... (Below threshold)
Brian:

when republicans lose some of them do some introspection and try and determine why they lost. Pence has done this and this is a great first step.

Go read my first comment in this thread. It's not introspection. It's pandering.

The Republicans need to get... (Below threshold)
Teresa:

The Republicans need to get their heads out of the sand and start being true leaders, not followers. Stand for truth, honesty and do what is right. Have a back bone like our soldiers do when they enlist to serve in a war, where they may lose their life defending our freedom of democracy.

Strength in Truth,

Teresa S.

mun-go are you really that ... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

mun-go are you really that dumb?




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