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Wrapping Up For the Night -- Bush To Hold Press Conference Wednesday

President Bush will hold a press conference Wednesday at 1 p.m. ET, as Kim noted earlier. Anyone want to guess how many reporters will ask him whether or not he is going to fire Don Rumsfeld now?

I apologize for the very light blogging tonight. I am now back at the hotel. Between the excitement and commotion in the room, and some technical difficulties from time to time, it was hard to get much blogging done. The CNN people were extremely accomodating and pleasant. I have said it before, but will repeat again that Jacki Schechner and Abbi Tatton do an excellent job covering blogs and I don't know why the other networks don't cover blogs like CNN does. I will have more on that at a later time, but wanted to say that in spite of my problems with many other aspects of CNN's reporting, I really do think they are getting it right when it comes to their blog coverage.

Now for the results...I agree with Alexander's analysis, but would add that what is most striking to me is how many of the Democrat candidates ran as conservatives. John McCain said on Larry King that he believes America is still a conservative nation. He is right and that can be seen in how many Democrats that won did so by running as conservatives, and on some issues even ran to the right of their Republican opponents. Don't forget too that Joe Lieberman ran to the right of his Democrat opponent.

Alot was made by those in the media of candidates running away from President Bush, but the big story was how many Democrats ran away from Nancy Pelosi and other liberal Democrats in the Congress. Just as Bill Clinton won by co-opting many Republican issues, Democrat candidates won this year by doing the same. What remains to be seen is whether or not they will vote in congress the same way they ran. If they don't, what Mike Krempasky said tonight about Nancy Pelosi as speaker helping us win the White House in two years, most likely will come true.

Update: Rob Bluey has some thoughts on what will be remembered from this election, including the negative ads. He is also getting behind Mike Pence to restore fiscal discipline.

Update II: Greg Tinti's "pick me up" video made me wonder how all those saying this election was all about Iraq, which I don't dispute, explain how Lieberman won when his support of the mission in Iraq was the issue in his race.


Comments (22)

"He is right and that can b... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"He is right and that can be seen in how many Democrats that won did so by running as conservatives, and on some issues even ran to the right of their Republican opponents."

Can you think of some examples? I thought the opposite. Almost all of the senate wins were by anti-war candidates - which was the most important issue, besides conservative corruption.

I believe she was referring... (Below threshold)

I believe she was referring to the House Democratic winners like Shuler in NC, Ellsworth, Donnelly, and Hill in IN, Patrick Murphy and Sestak in PA, Yarmouth in KY, & etc.

The Senate winners - at least Brown, Tester, and McCaskill - are more liberal than the people they unseated, true enough. There was no policy difference between Whitehouse and Chaffee. Webb is "antiwar" on Iraq, but not known for liberal opinions on other issues, including national security. We can't be sure what Casey believes until someone whispers in his ear (they usually say, "Shut the hell up!") and tells him.

Thanks for the analysis. No... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Thanks for the analysis. Not much detail, but with some names I can certainly check their voting records.

I didn't mean that they wer... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

I didn't mean that they were conservatives, but that many tried to portray themselves that way, on issues like spending/deficit, and even guns and immigration in some races.

Night guys. I am wiped out.

I think that tonight's big ... (Below threshold)
John:

I think that tonight's big wins are not because so many Democrats ran as conservatives, but rather how few Republicans ran as conservatives.

The Neo-conservative agenda is NOT conservative as most Americans understand it.

I think most Americans are kind, inclusive, responsable, and generous. We like fair play. We cheer for the underdog. We want to pay off our credit cards on time, and get along with our neighbors. We value humility. We try to act Christ like.

Despite what they might have said, the Neo-cons did not show Americans that they shared those values.

Quite the opposite, the Neo-cons ended up being mean, exclusive, irresponsable, and selfish. They played dirty. They were not generous in their victory, kind to their neighbors, and they were arrogant. They racked up debt, and they piled on the pork. They flattered decent Christians, used them, and got caught mocking them behind their backs.

Amazing that it only took 12 years for this fish to rot from the head down, and most of that was done in just the last 6 years.

Truly, for the sake of our Democracy and our great nation, it WAS time for some oversight, and the normal checks and balances of two parties and three branches sharing power.

From all of us, to all of you... We are not your enemy. We all want the same things. We have a few minor differences in how to get there, but it's all gonna be ok...

Thank you.

John

"many Democrats that won di... (Below threshold)
Knightbrigade:

"many Democrats that won did so by running as conservatives, and on some issues even ran to the right of their Republican opponents."

"What remains to be seen is whether or not they will vote in congress the same way they ran."

Why do we have imitation conservatives? ANY conservative should be a Republican, and ANY liberal should be a Democrat.
Why on earth if you had a conservative ideology would you want to even be in the same room with Nancy Pelosi!!!??? never mind be of the same party.
WHYY!!??? And why do people VOTE for that?
If a candidate came up to me introduced him or herself as a conservative, expressed where they stand on the issues, and I agreed with them, then they tell me they are a democrat. I would answer, WHYYY!!?? and then tell them they just lost my vote, go change parties and come back.
It goes the same way for a Lincoln Chafee type as well, he belongs as a democrat.

Voting records won't help m... (Below threshold)

Voting records won't help much. I think Donnelly was in the state senate, but Ellsworth was Sheriff. Sheriffs don't cast a lot of votes. Hill was the Rep. for that seat before losing last time to Sodrel; he was a member of the "Blue Dog Caucus," if that means anything to you.

Shuler was a pro football player, and Sestak and P. Murphy were military.

All ran their campaigns as conservatives on most issues, though.

Well, the Republicans had a... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Well, the Republicans had an interesting 12-year run there on Capitol Hill. It went well with a Democrat in the White House and then the party gradually tore itself apart when they got the president they really wanted. Oh yes, I know, it's all Clinton's fault for letting that net bubble happen and not stopping 9/11, but still I think it will be nice if we get some balance in our government, or at least impasse so they can't do too much damage.

Interestingly, despite the fact that I am a liberal, on the day when Democrats took back (probably) both houses of Congress, I voted against my governor and my congressman, who are both Democrats. Of course I live in the the IL 7, and one's a crook and the other either doesn't mind taking trips funded by terrorists or is too dumb to know when he is. My vote didn't quite swing it and they both won, naturally. So next time someone wants to give me crap for being a Democrat, which I'm not, remember I didn't vote for Lurch in '04, and I voted for Republicans for governor and the House. Some Democrat.

Now that they actually have some power I can rail against both parties again. Fucking politicians.

Mantis and John, ... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Mantis and John,

I second your ideas. I think the people of both parties have a lot in common we can work together on to make things better.

My hope is that we can find common ground and work to make both parties and their leadership more responsible.

Here's some issues I think we have in common;

Get rid of pork spending.
A balanced budget.
Immigration
WOT (yes WOT) both sides want to win this.
Tax reform
Electoral reform ? instant run off voting.


I think the problem is we like to blame each other for the failings of our parties leaders. That needs to stop and we need to work together on common issues for the good of all of us....and then to figure compromise on the tougher issues.

I've always hoped the blogosphere would be the place were some unity amongst the people starts and forces our leaders to be better....It's not been the case but hopefully these last few years should be evidence enough for those on both sides to realize they can't jam their entire agendas down the throats of the other half of the country.

"He is also getting behind ... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"He is also getting behind Mike Pence to restore fiscal discipline."

Where has Wizbang been in saying this the last 6 years? Is this what it takes, a devastating loss, to restore simple common sense?

Boy... The local Trolls sur... (Below threshold)
Darby:

Boy... The local Trolls sure are gracious with their "victory".

I don't even want to think about what's going on at DU and KoS.

BTW... Apparently, KoS is right. He said a republican sweep this year. He was right because he was wrong... Doesn't that make him 0 for 4 now?

John said:From ... (Below threshold)
fatman:

John said:

From all of us, to all of you... We are not your enemy. We all want the same things. We have a few minor differences in how to get there, but it's all gonna be ok...

Bullshit.

The reason for the gracious... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

The reason for the graciousness is that for a lot of partisans on both sides, the objective is to get their team in power. They only care about the issue to the point where they can be worked to get their party's name in lights.

That kind of blind support was counted on by the Republicans and thats reason the Republicans lost as well.

"Why do we have imitatio... (Below threshold)
Lee:

"Why do we have imitation conservatives? ANY conservative should be a Republican, and ANY liberal should be a Democrat."

Democrats won control of the House by winning seats that were formerly GOP seats (well duh) and it is natural that there are candidates in those House districts formerly held by Republicans that would be more conservative than House Speaker Pelosi (second duh).

Is this a "slap in the face" for Democrats? Get real - Democrats have always been the party of inclusion, and much more diverse and less homogenized than Republicans. I find it absolutely amazing that, at this moment of monumental political sea change that we only see every 20 years or so, conservatives on this blog are still looking for ways to split America instead of uniting America and accepting and embracing the diversity of thought and opinion.

The wedge issues that split enough Republicans away from the Republican party to give Democrats control were the wedge issues that were hard fought by the far-right (third duh). The "my way or the highway" positions by hard-line conservatives on the issue of immigration, for example, where the president himself saw the need for a middle-ground compromise, helped create this political shift from red to blue. It's obvious as well that the stem cell issue in Missouri helped the Democrats in that state. Thanks, Rush.

I'm counting on this same hard-right conservative stubbornness to deliver the White House to the Democrats in '08.

This is interesting. The l... (Below threshold)

This is interesting. The lefties here now want to make nice-nice. "Look at all we have in common" "We're not your enemy". Even mantis is suddenly sharing his "conservative" voting record. What happened to our rank hipocrisy and intellectual dishonesty? Our racism and selfishness? Why in the world would you ask for cooperation and a sharing of goals from the likes of us?

Up until 12 hours ago you were flinging spittle, snidery and isulting the intelligence of everyone to your right.

JP2 is the only one holding true to form.

Look guys, you may not be our enemy, but you've certainly acted like one for a long time. You've consistently disagreed with every single thread topic and done so (to put it mildly) with "great enthusiasm". Called every host here (and many commenters) every name in the book and looked down your nose at conservatives of every degree with no mincing of words.

What's with the feigned compassion?

If you think the conservative majority was extreme, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

"If you think the conser... (Below threshold)
Lee:

"If you think the conservative majority was extreme, you ain't seen nothin' yet."

I'm counting on it.

Lorie, One thought came to... (Below threshold)
carly:

Lorie, One thought came to mind this morning which I think is applicable no matter what your religious beliefs. In the book of Judges, the Israelites were left a remnant of an enemy by divine intervention. Why? That they may 'know war'. To know how to fight their enemy who they didn't fully understand. We have 2008 coming up with a tremendously prearmed and ruthless enemy has backing and tentacles everywhere. If we learn our lessons now and prepare for the future, we may succeed. We have been far too weak in our political, moral, and social action up to this point. This is a big wakeup call. To the American people: Don't give an inch, they haven't, nor will they. Work on a grassroots movement for Voter ID for the next election.

Let's ask Joe L. if the Dem... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Let's ask Joe L. if the Democrats are the Party of Inclusion.

Oyster,You asked, ... (Below threshold)
John:

Oyster,

You asked, "Up until 12 hours ago you were flinging spittle, snidery and isulting the intelligence of everyone to your right."

And

"You've consistently disagreed with every single thread topic and done so (to put it mildly) with "great enthusiasm". Called every host here (and many commenters) every name in the book and looked down your nose at conservatives of every degree with no mincing of words."

This seems to be in response to my post, since most of the quotes seem to be in response to my text. Oyster, you and I have talked before. I've not flung spittle on you. I've had conversations with Lorie, or Diane or Ke_future and others and we've not come to agreement, but we've had respect for each other.

Go look at any thread you like, and look at some of the names called and the threats flung around... Then look at who's saying it.

It's time to be honest.

We are not your enemy.

John


Even mantis is suddenly ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Even mantis is suddenly sharing his "conservative" voting record.

I said I voted for Republicans this time, not that I had a conservative voting record (in case you hadn't noticed, most Republicans aren't very conservative these days). I have an independent voting record, and that was my point.

What happened to our rank hipocrisy and intellectual dishonesty?

I've only directed such criticisms against individuals, not a party or political ideology.

Our racism and selfishness?

These have never been part of my arguments.

Why in the world would you ask for cooperation and a sharing of goals from the likes of us?

I'm not.

Up until 12 hours ago you were flinging spittle, snidery and isulting the intelligence of everyone to your right.

Nope. I like a lot of people to my right and respect their opinions. It's idiots, like yourself, I cannot stand.

John, my comment was not sp... (Below threshold)

John, my comment was not specifically directed at you. I shouldn't have used it. I used your line merely as an example of the new found sentiment of those who have been especially vitriolic only hours ago, but now have a pacifier in their mouths and are happy.

I apologize for including your line and making it sound as if I was talking specifically to you. I did not intend to attack you personally.

But mantis? Whoa! Now that your party has won the majority, mantis, you're suddenly a paragon of civility and respect? And then call me an idiot?

Let me make one thing clear. I'm happy the bums got thrown out on their asses (yet not all of them were bums). I'm not happy about who they were all replaced with. And that's just the truth.

Oyster,And I appol... (Below threshold)
John:

Oyster,

And I appologize to you as well.

Nah, I hope it's not a newly found sentiment. This happens every election cycle. After it's over, regardless of the outcome, we all look around and realize we are in the same boat. And we all need to pull on the oars together. You see that alot after primaries... In this case, we were allways, and are still now all Americans.

I really do believe (and I've been slammed here) that we all want the same things. Our only differences are how to get there.

For example...

We all love our families.
We all want to be safe.
We all want to be treated fairly.
We all want to have enough to eat.
We all want respect.

True?

Sometimes it's hard not to be snarky. I try my best, because I'm here to learn as much as I can, and teach if possible. Calling people "stupid" or "morons" just shuts off any possibility of getting somebody to listen to your point of view, which is why I don't use those words.

Anyway, we've talked before and you've been fair and honest with me, and I honor and respect you for that.

Thank you.

John




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