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The Netherlands to Ban the Burqa

The Dutch government is going to try and find a way to ban the wearing of burqas in public.

THE Dutch government has announced that it would seek a way of banning the wearing of burqas and other Muslim face veils in public places, possibly becoming the first European country to impose such a ruling.


The announcement comes at a time when the debate on such veils and whether they prevent Muslims from integrating has gathered momentum across Europe and drawn comments from leaders such as Britain's Tony Blair and Italy's Romano Prodi.

Last December Dutch lawmakers voted in favour of a proposal by far-right politician Geert Wilders to outlaw face-coverings, partly on security grounds, and asked Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk to examine the feasibility of such a ban.

Ms Verdonk said the fact veils were worn for religious reasons could bring new legislation into conflict with Dutch religious freedom laws, but signalled the government would try to find a way around this.

"The cabinet finds the wearing of a burqa undesirable ... but cannot at present enforce a total ban," she said after a cabinet meeting.

Existing legislation already limits the wearing of burqas and other total coverings in public transport or schools, Ms Verdonk said, but the cabinet would discuss imposing as wide a ban as possible next week.

"The government will search for the possibility to provide a ban," her spokeswoman told Reuters.

The Muslim community estimates that only about 50 women in the Netherlands wear the head-to-toe burqa or the niqab, a face veil that conceals everything but the eyes.

Hat tip: Jumpinjoe


Comments (15)

Fatwa murders in the street... (Below threshold)
epador:

Fatwa murders in the streets, and they're going to ban some clothing?

And think its OK to kill kids AFTER they're born.

Go figure.

How about banning the Musli... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

How about banning the Muslims, until such time as they are able to live in civilization.

It's sort of like a "time out" for a 5 year old.

You act nice, you can come back with the grown ups.

That goes double for liberals.

DAMN! I just bought my wif... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

DAMN! I just bought my wife one!!! Now they're BANNED??? oh shit!

Isn't it already against th... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Isn't it already against the law to wear a full face covering in most states in the U.S.? Something to do with criminals wearing mask to hide their identity.

Of course an Islamic criminal doesnt' need a mask. They are all criminals. Trust none of them. Never allow anyone that associates with Islam to teach they're murderous religion (brainwash) in your school system.

Well, I myself is against a... (Below threshold)
Richard Jewels:

Well, I myself is against any wearing of any burkas or anything else that prevents you from assimilating into the country you have adopted as your "Home." However, we do not oppose nose rings or anykind of discusting face ring that identifies you as a subversive, or someone who is not really living in everyday society. If we as Americans value freedom, we simply cannot dictate what people choose to wear, even if we find it discusting. We can only wish they wouldn't. If the Dutch are living in modern times, they cannot be expected to ban personal freedom. Better idea, stop all immigration from those countries we are at some kind of war with. This is the only fair solution for all.

DAMN! I just bought my wife... (Below threshold)
Bill:

DAMN! I just bought my wife one!!! Now they're BANNED??? oh shit!

Posted by: Justrand at November 18, 2006 09:55 PM

Send it to Hillary.

How about we ban the right ... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

How about we ban the right wing loons to Texas? We'll build you a big one way fence. Little George can then be emperor for life. You'll all be happy cause everone will be just like you, WASPS and gun slingers. You'll be happy and about 90% of the rest of the country will be happy.

When I came across this my ... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:

When I came across this my first thought was, gee, maybe those in the EU are finally beginning to understand the danger of non-assimilating Muslims.

I believe as part of the overall "Jihad" is to plant large populations of Muslims using lax immigration laws to get in. That way there will be a large presence when ever the s#*t hits the fan.

I know it's unfair to lump all people into this category of 'jihad" seekers, but where would loyalties go if Muslims don't and never had loyalties to their new adopted counties?

I see this as a sign of finally "seeing the writing on the wall" especially for such a so called tolerate country.

At the rate things are going, Europe never making any progress with Iran and the possibility of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, many on the left and Europe may someday ask, 'what the hell were we thinking". That will be translated into it was Bush's fault for stirring up the hornets nest of course.

Europe right now is failing the "Global test" by passing the Iran negotiations back to the UN and U.S. corner and although NATO took over Afghanistan, many countries perform only non-combat roles and refuse to do otherwise.

And many Muslims believe they are in a war to hasten the coming of the Islamic messiah known as the twelfth Imam. Ahmadinejad is predicting only two or three years away from this reality.

History has taught us nothing, especially since the left is on the wrong chapter using "Vietnam" as the lesson and not WW2.

Hang on to your hats, this may get ugly.


I'm trying to figure out ho... (Below threshold)

I'm trying to figure out how banning burkas will solve the issues the Netherlands has with Islamic extremism. What a stupid idea.

I'm also trying to figure out what Hugh's comment has to do with banning burkas. I'm sure he'll further explain.

Hugh, the anglo-saxon Chris... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Hugh, the anglo-saxon Christians, lest you forget, has produced the most successful society and economy in the history of the world.

Perhaps, instead of attacking us anglos, you and your Islamic friends should be adopting what our civilization has found to work, and work damn well.

None of the Nobel Laureates from Islamic societies have been in the sciences. Just politics. That speaks volumes, doesn't it.

You don't have to be an anglo-saxon to be a thoughtful, successful person. I'd be happy with anyone who has found this to be true, regardless of color or faith.

"I'm trying to figure out h... (Below threshold)

"I'm trying to figure out how banning burkas will solve the issues the Netherlands has with Islamic extremism. What a stupid idea."

Oyster, I wouldn't exactly call it a comprehensive solution, but it does at least further marginalize radical Islam, gives some support to women who don't want to wear it but are being made to, and prevents men from using it to hide behind - something that has been done in other places. It also makes it less easy to hide a suicide bombers' belt, should a jihadi want to use it for that. So, not a perfect solution, but a step in the right direction.

Well it's simple Oyster and... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

Well it's simple Oyster and Mithell. The racisism and xenophobia of the right leaks out once again. I suggested a solution for 3 of the first 4 posters on this thread, that's all.

Hugh, factually speaking, a... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Hugh, factually speaking, and not speaking from your delusions, where is the racism in my posting?

What "race" am I speaking about?

What of my points is incorrect, and why?

Oh Hughey, can I be a racis... (Below threshold)
epador:

Oh Hughey, can I be a racist too? I wanna go to TX and shoot guns at birds and people and build a fence and all. Its sounds like sooo much fun.

Meanwhile, anyone wanna discuss the little disconnect between the Dutch approach to Islamic Fundamentalism, euthanasia, and whether they have a clue how to save their own asses from extinction?

For a while we had neighbor... (Below threshold)

For a while we had neighbors who I *believe* were from the Netherlands. They were here for a year as missionaries working for some church or other... they had 13 or 15 children and dressed sorta like Amish. The girls all wore dresses and little caps, even the baby.

Yes, it shocked me too. :-)

When it's like pulling teeth to get anyone in Europe to have kids, that was the last thing I expected.

In any case, it's one solution to cultural death by suicide... I sort of suspect that they weren't as socially liberal as the norm, however.




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