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Kos Kiddie's Theory on the Purpose of the ISG Report

John Hawkins has the scoop, and it's a doozy. If you're eating or drinking right now, you better put it down so you don't spit it out at your computer screen.

Ready? Ok.

The argument is that if Bush ignores the ISG, he will be proven to be mentally ill. Then the ISG members, along with Congress, White House staff, and the Bush family will stage an intervention and remove him from power.

"ISG's proposals are studiously designed to isolate Bush, to highlight and tweak his mental illness. Surrounded by a diverse alignment of extremists and centrists, icons of the Reagan-Bush and Clinton 'Wonder Years', the President is put to the test: is he irrational? If he rejects even these lukewarm, unanimous, bipartisan proposals--plans so generic/neutered that even Ed Meese and Vernon Jordan can agree--he proves that he is not just wrong, but mentally ill. And yet the proposals are aimed right at the President's 'issues'--particularly Iran. ISG is almost begging Bush to flip out and reject their report, to show to the country that he is unfit for office.


The next step: consensus among the establishment--in the Congress, among business leaders, in the Pentagon, the White House Staff (yes, even Rove) and in the Bush family--that the President is ill and must be removed from power. We may be witnessing a coup d'etat.

I don't think impeachment is in the winds, rather a quiet in-house understanding where Bush gets the word: You're not really President anymore. Bush would serve out his term as a null object."

Excuse me as I guffaw heartily. This insanity almost makes me feel sorry for these Kos wackos.

John's last sentence is spot on accurate:

This is the analysis from one of the writers at the biggest, most successful, most influential liberal blog on the planet -- and Bush is supposed to be the guy with the "mental illness."

Update: A commenter reminded me of TF Bogg's piece on the ISG report. For those who are unfamiliar, TF Boggs just returned from his second tour in Iraq and has nothing positive to say about the ISG members or their report. Here are a couple of paragraphs in particular:

Not only are the findings of the ISG a joke but the people who led the group (Baker and Hamilton) treat soldiers like they are a joke. One of the main recommendations of the ISG is to send more troops to Iraq in order to train Iraqis so they can secure their own country, but they don't feel that we are doing a good job of that right now because training Iraqis isn't an attractive job for soldiers to do because it isn't a "career advancing" job. As someone who trained Iraqis from time to time I take personal offense to this remark. In my experience soldiers clamored for the chance to train Iraqis. Any soldier who doesn't think training Iraqis is worth their time because it isn't a "career advancing" job shouldn't be part in the war on terror plain and simple.


What the group desperately needed was at least one their members to have been in the military and had recent experience in Iraq. The problem with having an entire panel with no one under the age of 67 is that none of them could possibly know what the situation is actually like on the ground in Iraq. Now I concede that it is possible to have a good understanding of things as they stand in Iraq but unless you interact with the people of Iraq and spend a year or years of your life on ground you cannot possibly have a complete picture of the situation.

Read the rest of TF Bogg's post and get educated.

Carl at The World According to Carl asks if the Kos Kiddies can be as nutty as Screwy Squirrel.

ScrewySquirrel.jpg

I'd say more so.


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Comments (30)

Color me crazy, but the mor... (Below threshold)
Matt:

Color me crazy, but the more I learn about the ISG report, the more I am convinced that President Bush would have to be crazy to go along with it!

I expeceted something more of the ISG than a scholarly way of handing problems we caused to the neighbors and walking away.

We broke it and we can't walk away until it is fixed.

Yeah, right. The purpose o... (Below threshold)
kevino:

Yeah, right. The purpose of the ISG is to force President Bush from office, who be replaced by President Cheney, a man that the Kos Kids expect to embrace the ISG Report's sound, sensible proposals.

And these people call themselves the "Realists".

LOL

I just heard Turban Dick Du... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I just heard Turban Dick Durban (D - Al Qaeda) on the radio saying something to the effect that some of the proposals of the ISG are good and should be implemented, but others are not and should not.

Does this mean the Dick is insane, too? What will the KOS children do?

The ISG report is nothing m... (Below threshold)
sam:

The ISG report is nothing more than the latest "f**k the jews" plan by that ancient jew-hater Saudi-operative James Baker, a Pat Buchanan in a nice suit.

Bush will of course reject ... (Below threshold)

Bush will of course reject most of the ISG report because he would have to admit to making big mistakes if he accepts it.

Besides, many of the ISG recommendations are simply beyond the competence level of this administration. For example, all the ones having to do with diplomacy.

Bush is going to continue doing what he has the for the last 3 years which is to stand there with his "deer-in-the-headlights" look insisting that we are going to prevail. He won't increase or decrease troops or change strategy or tactics in any meaningful way. He believes faith alone will pull him through. He doesn't need to bother with facts since he relies simply on his "gut instinct".

I can already see Bush's endgame here. He will play out the clock for the next two years and dump the whole friggin' disaster on the next President. Then, for the rest of his life he will say we could have won Iraq if we had just stayed the course.

Excuse me as I guffaw he... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Excuse me as I guffaw heartily. This insanity almost makes me feel sorry for these Kos wackos.

That's OK. Now you know how we've felt about the "we're winning" crowd for the past few years.

I really have to question t... (Below threshold)
Rob:

I really have to question the sanity of those who insist that we keep on going as we have. For those that still support Bush's prosecution of the War on Terror. Those that support the views and strategies of the team that got us in this horrible mess. Those who are now discreting with all of their might the efforts of 2 patriots who came out of retirement to serve their country. Those who think they have a better, more accurate perspective that the afore mentioned patiots who spent months pouring over details of our current predicament.

Trite but true, Albert Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

It's time for change. It's not surrender. It's not cut and run. It's sane.

Actually, we want Bush in o... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Actually, we want Bush in office for the remainder of his term. Two more years of Bush will certainly keep the Republicans in the minority for years to come.

On the other hand:<... (Below threshold)
DaveD:
Thanks for alerting me on t... (Below threshold)
Carl:

Thanks for alerting me on this. I would find it funny if it weren't for the fact that the Daily Kos diarist-in-question is taking it so seriously. However it is definitely worth noting. After reading about it on Wizbang! I had to put an entry about it on my blog (with proper citations and credit of course).

Larkin:"He won't i... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Larkin:

"He won't increase or decrease troops or change strategy or tactics in any meaningful way."

Which is it; increase or decrease?

This is very similar to what I hear comming out of congress. Some are screaming increase troups and some decrease troops. It is appearant that they, like you, have nothing constructive to add except continuous critizism of the president. "Do something" is not a plan, it's a cry of the undecided. The president might not have all the answers, but at least he has a sense of direction which others seem to lack.

Liberals are finally admitt... (Below threshold)
Cousin Dave:

Liberals are finally admitting what I've suspected for some time, which is that democracy is only acceptable to them as long as it produces the result that they favor. Otherwise, their philosophy (if you can call it that) fully justifies the use of extra-democratic means to achieve the correct result.

This is very similar to ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

This is very similar to what I hear comming out of congress. Some are screaming increase troups and some decrease troops.

Yeah, isn't it refreshing to have actual differences of opinions and debates in our government again? The lemming-march off a cliff was getting kinda old.

The purpose of the ISG i... (Below threshold)
Nikolay:

The purpose of the ISG is to force President Bush from office, who be replaced by President Cheney, a man that the Kos Kids expect to embrace the ISG Report's sound, sensible proposals.
Can't you read? "Kos Kids" don't speak about replacing Bush with Cheney:
I don't think impeachment is in the winds, rather a quiet in-house understanding where Bush gets the word: You're not really President anymore. Bush would serve out his term as a null object.

Not hard to pick out the cu... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Not hard to pick out the cut and run Cowards here is it?

I believe the Kos crowd nee... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

I believe the Kos crowd needed an intervention long ago, but their dementia is so ingrained now, there is no cure.

Whatever the real purpose o... (Below threshold)
Live@9:

Whatever the real purpose of the ISG report is may not matter much anymore. Our President is in a downward spiral and I fear that no amount of study groups will be able to bring him back.

How many Conservatives and conservative values go down with the Bush Titanic remains to be seen. The ISG report was past its "sell by date" before it was even published, the events on the ground are moving too fast now.

Ultimately all we (left and right) have is the hope that President George Bush can make a brilliant move and either gets us a victory in Iraq or a face saving retreat. Another precieved American military defeat is not acceptable.

Right now President Bush seems to be in a catatonic state of mind, the same thing we saw on 9/11 just after he was informed by Andy Card that the nation was under attack. How long are the American people willing to watch him just sit there and do nothing to change the situation in Iraq? From the looks of the latest Zogby poll time is running out. I hope he makes his move soon.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1217

Hey "dead@10" you just got ... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Hey "dead@10" you just got added to the "club" (those with shit for brains). Has no one ever told you the cure for BDS?

Jhow66,Question: W... (Below threshold)
Live@9:

Jhow66,

Question: What's the difference between a brown noser and an ass kisser?

Answer: Depth perception.

Which one are you?

Neither "dead@10"-just a re... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Neither "dead@10"-just a retired REP. (yeah I know your comeback will be retarded but that still makes me smarter then you)

The results of Viet Nam and... (Below threshold)
jainphx:

The results of Viet Nam and Iraq would and should have been a lot different if the demorats would have backed this country,instead of their fondness for communistic tendencies.One day they will have to answer to the man in the sky.He will and should say be gone I know you not.

Jainphx,There is a b... (Below threshold)
Live@9:

Jainphx,
There is a big difference between Viet Nam and Iraq no matter how hard the left tries to tie the two together.

Viet Nam was started by a Democratic administration (JFK & LBJ) and concluded under a Republican administration (Nixon).

The way things are going in Iraq it looks like the Iraq war will have to be finished by a Democratic President to clean up the mess of this Republican one.

That's the beauty of a representative republic, a very entrenched and long history of checks and balances. The system will always work its self out this way.

Live@9You don't do... (Below threshold)

Live@9

You don't do history well, do you?

darleen they only know "rev... (Below threshold)
Jo:

darleen they only know "revised history" which they write to make them look like they were on the right side of history. Which they never were or are.

If you think the Kos kids are insane, just read Democratic Underground. I call up my friends and read some of the posts over the phone and we laugh till we cry. They're hilarious over there.

"This is very similar to... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

"This is very similar to what I hear comming out of congress. Some are screaming increase troups and some decrease troops.

Yeah, isn't it refreshing to have actual differences of opinions and debates in our government again?"


Debate? Wait, I thought the answer was settled by the Dems months ago.

So which is it, increase or decrease? After all this time, surely the Dems had settled on the answer.

We are witnessing the la... (Below threshold)

We are witnessing the last throes of so-called representative democracy

Just how wise is it for billions of souls to to be at the mercy of a proven idiot just because those with the most money put him in power? GW Bush and the greedy scoundrels that surround him are stunning evidence of the utter folly and failures of government driven by money, religion, and poltics.

It was clear to me that GWH (papa) Bush was crying recently because he's suffering from the stress of realizing that the debacles caused by his son are ultimately traced to the Bush family's aristocratic ambitions. In other words, the old man is as much to blame for Irag and other evils as the clueless son he foisted upon the world stage. That is why family consiglieri James Baker and smoking man Eagleburger were called in to set the stage for little W's demise.

Royalty, aristocracy, and plutocracy always were and always will be bad ideas and we have been forced to suffer through yet more proof of this. Do you think GW's feelings are more important than the wealth and power of the empire? We're now witnessing the praetorian guard fulfilling their most sacred duty; saving the empire from an insane emperor. Unfortunately for them, it's too little too late .

Here is Wisdom...

Darleen,Please help ... (Below threshold)
Live@9:

Darleen,
Please help me with my history. Where are the errors in my post about the start and end to the Viet Nam conflict?

My point is, when one party gets us into a mess it's the other party's duty to get us out.

I'm not sure if bush is ins... (Below threshold)
jvf:

I'm not sure if bush is insane, but he is clearly uninterested and lazy.

His flippant answer to a British journalist...

"It's bad in Iraq...does that help?"

followed by the nonsequitor "I meet with families who die"

WTF????

And and you 30-percenters wonder why people get "deranged" by this clown?

jvf:(just very f#$%@#up) ju... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

jvf:(just very f#$%@#up) just got added to the "club".

Hey "dead@10" you j... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

Hey "dead@10" you just got added to the "club".


jvf:(just very f#$%@#up) just got added to the "club".


"jumping jackass" just joined the shit for brains club along with "rob hackney". -November 27th


"observer5" just joined the "club". - November 26th


And another joins the club for those that has shit for brains. - November 20th


Naaa-pet belongs to the "club" - November 29th


jhow, you just got added to MY club (lame-ass monkey-boys who have nothing to say except "doi! You just joined the club!"




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