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Interesting photo @ link sh... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Old Coot | December 28, 2006 11:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Interesting photo @ link showing the HV lines within feet of the home. Gotta be more to this story; no-one noticed the problem during construction? If metal doorknobs giving jolts now, why didn't the tools and ladders used during construction? What about whoever wired the place...didn't notice that tingling sensation whilst connecting fixtures and outlets? I want to be sorry for this poor guy, but can't.
1. Posted by Old Coot | December 28, 2006 11:45 AM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 11:45
2. Posted by drjohn | December 28, 2006 12:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Exactly WHY is the building inspector not accountable for this whether or not he still works for the city?
Superfund lawyers hold companies liable for anything in the past, no matter how far back the violation. When does accountability end?
2. Posted by drjohn | December 28, 2006 12:07 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 12:07
3. Posted by Bob Jones | December 28, 2006 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The City is still responsible. The inspector represented the city and the CITY issued the permit.
I guess he can get John Kerry or Teddy Chivas to do something for him.
3. Posted by Bob Jones | December 28, 2006 12:16 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 12:16
4. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | December 28, 2006 12:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I am with your OC. I work for a utility, and I used to run around in a truck screening wires and towers.
You don't NOT notice something like this. If nobody was hurt building this place, it is a minor miracle. It sounds like the ground itself has a higher electric potential than the structure, which means there is no place for the electrons to go but into the lower potential that is a human.
That will give you a nice jolt, until the potential in the ground is lower than you are. Then ZAP. The potential, as it radiates from the source, drops off exponentially, so the difference of 2 feet can be enough to be deadly. That is, if you walk on high potential ground, and have one foot towards the locus and the other away, you become the path of least resitance for the electricty, and you get electrocuted. As a screener, I learned to do the powerline shuffle, essentially hopping from spot to spot, never placing both feet on the ground when there might be a downed line nearby.
Anyway, there is no way nobody noticed until the house was "done". They may have needed wiring in the house to act as an induction coil, but it woould have also been noticed if metal pipes were used.
4. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | December 28, 2006 12:18 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 12:18
5. Posted by Charlie | December 28, 2006 12:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, move the house back if there is enough room, or enclose it in a grounded Faraday shield (install metal mesh, such as chicken wire under the roof and siding sheathing). A lot cheaper than losing the house, and the bank might go along with the remediation.
5. Posted by Charlie | December 28, 2006 12:43 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 12:43
6. Posted by Denny F. Crane! | December 28, 2006 1:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The article says the power company warned him repeatedly. I'll bet any warnings were about encroachment on the easement, rather than about safety issues. If it's the latter, there should be no sympathy for the guy.
Also, how has the guy missed all the controversy about high tension lines? For at least 20 years, people have been claiming health risks, and many dwellings around the country have been condemned. Whether you believe the claims or not, shouldn't they at least be considered as a red flag before committing your life savings?
Yes, the city is on the hook. Yes, the lender should have taken a more active role before committing the construction funds. But unless the owner took a good hard look at those lines and hired an expert who gave him bad advice, I'm not feeling much sympathy.
Meanwhile, they should bill him for the power.
6. Posted by Denny F. Crane! | December 28, 2006 1:22 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 13:22
7. Posted by johnmc | December 28, 2006 1:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yep, I agree with Bob. The fact that the inspector is not with the city is irreveleant. If the homeowner has a stamped permit the city is in for the duration. If the electric company is truly out of bounds on the easement the homeowner should be able to force the company to move their lines. Only seems fair to me.
7. Posted by johnmc | December 28, 2006 1:22 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 13:22
8. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | December 28, 2006 1:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Charlie,
A Faraday cage would need to be tighter than chicken wire, and enclose the entire house. Even then, that only protects the contents of the house.
Given the amount of charge involved, it would also need to be in the floors all the way around. For the cage to work, it must be a closed structure with no gaps larger than the wavelentghts it is designed to block. If the house was built this way (my office building is a partial Faraday cage), well and dandy. To retrofit an existing structure? No mean task.
8. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | December 28, 2006 1:37 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 13:37
9. Posted by George | December 28, 2006 4:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Obraining a city building permit is not a sufficient condition to say you can legally build a house; it only says you've met the city's requirements. All other necessary requirements must be met (e.g. deed restrictions, state and federal laws).
The article provides too little information to place blame but, based on what appears to be a lack of common sense on Chris Zagami's part, I would say that he created his own problem.
9. Posted by George | December 28, 2006 4:21 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 16:21
10. Posted by marc | December 28, 2006 6:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The hope here is the guy and his wife own no sex toys containing metal parts.
On the other hand....
10. Posted by marc | December 28, 2006 6:08 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 18:08
11. Posted by The Listkeeper | December 28, 2006 11:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ooooo. Guaranteed AC EM field exposure greater than 10 milligauss. Wonder how long before he develops leukemia or mutates into a gelatinous lifeform?
11. Posted by The Listkeeper | December 28, 2006 11:33 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 23:33
12. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 11:03 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hopefully he gets zapped before he passes his blatant retard gene on to any progeny.
12. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 11:03 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 11:03
13. Posted by steve | December 29, 2006 5:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why the hell shouldn't the power companies and the town carry the blame . Just because these power companies have lobbyist to bury findings from reports who is to say how close is to close when every major study in the U.S. has been shelved or incomplete.It is time for big business to take there fair share of responsibility and stop hiding behind there money.Do not give in chris, keep fighting . Hopefully this will encourage people to grow a backbone and hold these large companies accountable . its time for the oil co's and the walmarts as well as the power and gas companies to stop shitting on the little guys
13. Posted by steve | December 29, 2006 5:56 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 17:56
14. Posted by pitbull | December 29, 2006 6:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I agree with steve.
Let's take walmart down too!!!!!!!!!
14. Posted by pitbull | December 29, 2006 6:03 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 18:03
15. Posted by YUNICE | December 29, 2006 6:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
THIS GUY REALLY NEEDS AND ATTORNEY W/ SOME BALLS!
15. Posted by YUNICE | December 29, 2006 6:05 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 18:05
16. Posted by dave | December 29, 2006 8:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whos to blame ?. What was there first the house or powerlines? If the house is built on a easement it's pretty obvious that national grid is not to blame. Who sold the land to him as a buildable lot in the first place, maybe there to blame. What engineer drew the plans and didn;t notice huge powerlines above where the house was to be built. Someone must have noticed during the construction, I can't imagine that no one got a shock, did Chris Zagami ignore their warnings.
16. Posted by dave | December 29, 2006 8:55 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 20:55
17. Posted by a friend | December 29, 2006 10:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The National Grid is wrong here. Chris' engineer has the papers that the lines are not where they are suppose to be. Money is exactly what they are hiding behind here! The town dropped the ball too. There are facts that aren't all in these news articles. If we let the big guys off the hook, we'll all pay one way or another.
Chris grew up right near where this new house, look at the pictures, this isn't the only house there. Every yard makes a difference and the lines are off there mark.
17. Posted by a friend | December 29, 2006 10:56 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 22:56
18. Posted by anonymous | January 4, 2007 9:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This guy is a phone company technician. If he doesn't understand AC induction, he is going to get himself or someone else hurt or killed. No sympathy for the guy.
18. Posted by anonymous | January 4, 2007 9:56 AM |
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Posted on January 4, 2007 09:56