***Bumped and Updated***
Update 4:22pm: From Fox News: Saddam's attorneys are asking a US judge, which one I don't know, to block Saddam's transfer from US custody to the Iraqis. One, according to an Iraqi MP, the transfer already took place; and Two, the United States judiciary does not have any jurisdiction over what happens in Iraq. Then again, with some of the liberal activist judges, you never know. Saddam's case could end up being fought out in US courts.
Update 3:41pm: According to ABC News, Saddam will be in a combination of Iraq/US custody and will be guarded by US troops even as his execution is carried out.
Update 2:47pm: Fox New just spoke with an Iraqi government official (Fox named that official but I didn't catch it) that Saddam has been now been handed over to Iraqi authorities, that all documents have been signed and finalized by the Prime Minister, and that Saddam's execution is imminent.
Fox News is sure of this information.
Update 2:41pm: Bob at Confederate Yankee has confirmation from a confidential source about 45 minutes ago who says that Saddam will be executed at midnight Baghdad time Saturday or 4:00pm ET Friday. Well, we'll find out soon enough.
Update 2:20pm: Curt at Flopping Aces makes an important distinction here regarding custody:
I think this may be all a case of semantics. Legal custody may have been transferred to the Iraqi's via documents but not physical.Oh btw....sunrise in Baghdad is 7:05am Iraqi time. 9 and a half hours from now.
Curt also links to Mohammad at Iraq the Model, who writes that an "al-Arabiya reporter said the noose is already set in a yard in the IZ."
He also offers these updates:
-Tariq Harb, Iraq's most famous judicial expert who's been following and commenting on the trial since the beginning said he expected the execution to take place in the next few hours.
-The Sadrist said they would return to the cabinet and parliament after Saddam is executed.-Bahaa' al-Aaraji, a Sadrist and member of the parliament's legal commission told al-Iraqiya TV that two execution sites have been prepared; one in the IZ and one in another location he wouldn't disclose.
-Al-Aaraji told al-Iraqiya TV that the government is asking clerics whether it's allowed to carry out executions during religious holidays. He added that he expects Saddam to be executed no later than noon tomorrow.
Breaking Right Now: James Rosen at Fox News says that US sources are telling him that Saddam is still in US custody. Well, this changes everything, at least for now. Saddam's attorneys are saying otherwise. Could this be misinformation by the US trying to quell any uprising? Who knows.
Update: 1:05pm: From Reuters:
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Saddam Hussein could be hanged within hours, a senior Iraqi source told Reuters on Friday after Saddam's lawyer said the former president had been handed over by U.S. forces to Iraqi authorities for execution.
"Things have changed in the past three hours. There were some issues ... and now that is resolved so it seems it's possible he may be hanged tonight," the source, who is in a senior position of authority, said after a day of confusion.
Update 12:42pm: Saddam has not yet been executed. One of Saddam's attorneys Najeeb al Nauimi is on Fox News via telephone right now and it sounds like Saddam will be executed early morning tomorrow. His attorneys are making arrangements for his body to be handed over to his family afterward.
Saddam's execution will be videotaped. Al Nauimi says that Saddam will be very proud and will be smiling when he's led to the gallows.
Al Nauimi also said that Saddam's family asked to visit with Saddam before his execution, but their request was denied. The access to Saddam has got to be really tight.
Update 12:34pm: Jules Crittenden has contacts with contractors in Iraq who are saying it may have already happened.
I was writing those words above when my buddy Sig called, maybe around 11 p.m. last night. His contractor pals in Iraq figure it's already happened. Sig, a San Antonio Express-News reporter in the invasion with three or four more trips to Iraq behind him, honored me by calling me first when he wanted to talk about it.
Saddam Dead by Tomorrow?
Update 12:21pm: Fox is now reporting that it has just crossed the AP wire that Iraqi PM Al-Maliki has signed Saddam's death sentence. This thing is going fast and furious.
Update 11:55am Friday:
A Reuters report says that Saddam has been transferred to Iraq custody:
DUBAI (Reuters) - U.S. officials have transferred former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to Iraqi custody, the chief defense lawyer told Reuters on Friday.
"The American side has notified us that they have handed over the president to the Iraqi authorities," said Khalil al-Dulaimi, head of Saddam's defense team.
Fox News has also confirmed with Saddam's chief lawyer that Saddam Hussein is now in the custody of the Iraq government. Fox is also reporting that an Iraqi judge says Saddam will be hanged tomorrow.
I'm sure Saddam's lawyer is leaking all this information to gin up as much unrest as possible and to possibly get insurgents to try to break him out of custody.
I don't blame the Iraqis for wanting to execute Saddam as soon as possible. As long as Saddam Hussein is alive, he is risk for being broken out of prison and, with the Iraq government being as new as it is, a coup by Saddam's supporters is simply too much of a risk.
Fox News has confirmed with the US military that Saddam will be handed over to the Iraq government today. He could be hanged within 24 hours after that, possibly as early as later today.
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NBC is reporting that Saddam is to be hanged before the Eid holiday, which starts Sunday.
Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, sentenced to death for his role in 148 killings in 1982, will have his sentence carried out by Sunday, NBC News reported Thursday. According to a U.S. military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity, Saddam will be hanged before the start of the Eid religious holiday, which begins this Sunday.
The hanging could take place as early as Friday, NBC's Richard Engel reported.The U.S. military received a formal request from the Iraqi government to transfer Saddam to Iraqi authorities, NBC reported on Thursday, which is one of the final steps required before his execution. His sentence, handed down last month, ordered that he be hanged within 30 days.
Tomorrow isn't soon enough as far as I'm concerned. Let's just hope that when Saddam's transferred to Iraqi authorities, which could have happened already, someone from the inside who sympathizes with him doesn't help him escape from custody.
Hat tip: See-Dubya at Hot Air
Update: Saddam's hanging will be video taped although officials say it may not be made public:
Iraqi officials also said that Saddam's final moments will be videotaped by the government, reports CBS News correspondent Randall Pinkston.
"We will video everything," National Security adviser Mouffak al Rubaie said. "All documentation will be videoed. Taking him from cell to the execution is going to be videoed, and the actual execution will be documented and videoed."Iraqis, members of the coalition and international representatives will witness the execution, Pinkston reports. It's not clear whether the videotape will be broadcast on Iraqi television.
All this means we can expect it to be on YouTube at some point.
Comments (64)
I'll be little sad to see t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by LissaKay | December 28, 2006 10:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'll be little sad to see the old guy go ... I mean, Rock-Paper-Saddam just won't be the same when he's feeding the worms.
1. Posted by LissaKay | December 28, 2006 10:31 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 22:31
2. Posted by sam | December 28, 2006 11:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
We should have killed this snake 15 years ago. Would have saved the world, and Iraqis, untold misery. This should be a lesson to us that when we tolerate evil, the world pays a high price.
2. Posted by sam | December 28, 2006 11:41 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 23:41
3. Posted by blackcat77 | December 28, 2006 11:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Sunnis are gonna go nuts. For the sake of killing one guilty person, I wonder how many innocent Iraqis and American soldiers will die. Better to let him rot in jail than raise him to the (undeserved) level of martyrdom.
3. Posted by blackcat77 | December 28, 2006 11:58 PM |
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Posted on December 28, 2006 23:58
4. Posted by Muslim Unity | December 29, 2006 1:47 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I agree with Sam. He shouldn't have been allowed to rise at all. I would have discussed the reasons he rose, but maybe some other time.
I don't think he speaks for most Sunnis. He is universally hated, unless those Sunnis are being sponsored by him and his puppets.
4. Posted by Muslim Unity | December 29, 2006 1:47 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 01:47
5. Posted by cubanbob | December 29, 2006 2:18 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
He will be the New Sultan Of Swing. Still it ought to be postponed until his trial of the Kurdish Massacre is over. The Kurds are entitled to a bit of justice.
5. Posted by cubanbob | December 29, 2006 2:18 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 02:18
6. Posted by observer 5 | December 29, 2006 2:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Iraqi Criminal Procedure Code prohibits a Muslim being executed during Eid.
Or a Christian during Christmas or Easter, or a Jew during Hanukkah, either.
6. Posted by observer 5 | December 29, 2006 2:40 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 02:40
7. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 2:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Iraqi Criminal Procedure Code? C'mon we call the shots..first of all the trial was limited..after all if we went into his gassing his own people the fact we provided him with that gas would have been an issue...and don't forget the timing of the sentence..just before OUR elections..it will be New Year's eve (our calander)Watch for still photots to be released..remember how the bloody corpses of his sons were dispalyed...
Saddam should hang but his trial was a farce..and the people of Iraq know it..
...and we will follow it with an escalation of troops?
7. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 2:57 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 02:57
8. Posted by marc | December 29, 2006 4:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Iraqi Criminal Procedure Code? C'mon we call the shots.. nogo postal
Really? Then how do you explain the US had a provision in their constitution that forbid capital punishment.
Yet he is about to get his neck stretched. Guess the Iraqis didn't get the memo.
8. Posted by marc | December 29, 2006 4:36 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 04:36
9. Posted by Brad | December 29, 2006 7:44 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fifty bucks says the pussy cries on his way up the gallows steps.
9. Posted by Brad | December 29, 2006 7:44 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 07:44
10. Posted by Paper Tigers | December 29, 2006 7:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
In the interest of keeping the Scales of Justice balanced, wouldn't it be appropriate to have Mike Nifong on the other end of the platform?
10. Posted by Paper Tigers | December 29, 2006 7:49 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 07:49
11. Posted by Oyster | December 29, 2006 7:59 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
blackcat: Saddam wasn't the only one sentenced to death. And the martyrdom issue shouldn't hold sway over justice.
Whether or not the video ends up on Youtube, I'm glad to know they won't be airing it to the general public. That's one thing I'd been wondering about. Public executions are a bad idea. We stopped doing that a long, long time ago.
11. Posted by Oyster | December 29, 2006 7:59 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 07:59
12. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 8:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I agree with Brad. I'll add that he'll have a big ol' snot bubble and be standing in a puddle of piss too. Force his last meal to be a BLT.
12. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 8:58 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 08:58
13. Posted by Ringmaster | December 29, 2006 9:26 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Your soul is US Government property, by right of conquest.
13. Posted by Ringmaster | December 29, 2006 9:26 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 09:26
14. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 9:39 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Saddam's hanging is like the busty gal next to the 3rd rate magician..."hey we're gonna hang the guy." Don't pay attention to the 107 troops killed and over 800 evacuated do to injury in December...don't think about the family and friends of these brave men and women...Their blood is on the hands of anyone who believes sending more troops
will mean anything more than a higher casuality rate....Bring'em Home....
14. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 9:39 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 09:39
15. Posted by Ringmaster | December 29, 2006 9:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm reenlisting in the reserves for the chance I might go back to Iraq.
You don't speak for me... or any of us, and we don't want or need your support.
Let em do their job.
15. Posted by Ringmaster | December 29, 2006 9:51 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 09:51
16. Posted by LJD | December 29, 2006 10:15 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Any chance we can get this televised during half time of the Pat's game?
16. Posted by LJD | December 29, 2006 10:15 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 10:15
17. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 10:28 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ring...I never expressed anything other my opinion...might I add your opinion is not representive of the other 140,000...over there..
like mine..it is just yours
Your reasons for going back over are yours and yours alone and NO ONE should question or challange those reasons..
I wish you a safe tour..God Bless
17. Posted by nogo postal | December 29, 2006 10:28 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 10:28
18. Posted by pennywit | December 29, 2006 10:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I wish I could figure out why, but I have a very, very strong feeling that hanging Saddam would be a mistake.
--|PW|--
18. Posted by pennywit | December 29, 2006 10:40 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 10:40
19. Posted by Brad | December 29, 2006 10:46 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's not a mistake; it's justice. Grow a pair and stand up.
19. Posted by Brad | December 29, 2006 10:46 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 10:46
20. Posted by pennywit | December 29, 2006 10:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Brad:
Why do you believe this is justice?
--|PW|--
20. Posted by pennywit | December 29, 2006 10:48 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 10:48
21. Posted by IllTemperedCur | December 29, 2006 10:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Martyrdom is overrated. He's much more effective as a symbol if he's alive, whether he's free or incarcerated. After all, how much do you hear about Uday, Qusay, or Zarqawi anymore? Nothing.
When applied to people like Saddam, I like Uncle Joe Stalin's attitude, "No man, no problem"
21. Posted by IllTemperedCur | December 29, 2006 10:56 AM |
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22. Posted by cirby | December 29, 2006 11:03 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Martyrdom is also only effective if the guy being killed is some sort of good example. Either following a religious code, or doing something great for the sake of others.
Saddam? Not so much, unless your example is "nasty men who become dictators and then get even nastier."
The death of Hussein will be more of a kick in the teeth of the bad guys currently in Iraq, since they won't have a figurehead to pretend to be supporting any more. It'll probably cause more inter-Baathist killings, for that matter, since a lot of middle management killers will now think they have a shot at becoming the next Head Honcho.
22. Posted by cirby | December 29, 2006 11:03 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 11:03
23. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 11:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
cirby, "inter-baathist killingS" has a nice ring to it. Let's just hope it is very very plural.
23. Posted by moseby | December 29, 2006 11:36 AM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 11:36
24. Posted by BC | December 29, 2006 12:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
With the chaos enveloping Iraq now, especially in regards to the sectarian violence, I wonder now if at least some of Hussein's heavy-handed past brutality was simply his stupid, simplistic method to enforce overall civil order.
The Soviet Union use to use similarly brutal policing tactics and intimidation to enforce peace between antagonistic sectarian groups. Indeed, it's generally recognized that when the Soviet Union broke up, while the US lost a dangerous rival, the world at large became more unstable with the unleashing of formally controlled, violent and power-hungry political factions and states.
As far as Hussein goes, I think it's utterly hypocritcal for anyone who misses Reagan with teary eyes to relish Hussein's upcoming execution. Back in the 80's, when Hussein was just as brutal as he ever was, if not more so, the US under Reagan thought of him as a valuable ally and directly supported him, especially during the nasty Iran-Iraq war. And there is considerable evidence, from even acual once classified documents, that this support, covertly at least, included Hussein's use of bio-chemical weapons. At the minimal, the Reagan administration looked the other way while US firms supplied Hussein with arms and the components to manufacture bio-chemical weapons; at the maximal, which Iran has always contended was the case, the US actually directly supplied Hussein with such weapons.
See: Wikipedia Article, Iran Chamber Article, and Some Declassifed Records
Personally, I think people like Hussein, even if they truly believe that they didn't do anything all that wrong, should be made responsible and held accountable for past murderous behavior in a proper and serious court of law. I also think this should done with some consistency, including going after anyone else who aided and abetted in such activity. However, I have no use for the sort of pickin' 'n' choosin', half-ass, mock-trial sort of "justice" that was evidently dished out to Hussein. Trials where life and death are to be decided should be done right or not at all. I think.
-BC
24. Posted by BC | December 29, 2006 12:15 PM |
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25. Posted by nikkolai | December 29, 2006 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Saddam Hussein! Come on down!
Sincerely,
Osama, Zarky, Mohammed, and of course--Satan
25. Posted by nikkolai | December 29, 2006 12:16 PM |
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26. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>>And the martyrdom issue shouldn't hold sway over justice.
Ideally, you're right. The problem is that Iraq is in a state of anarchy right now. The lawless are running the place and something like this might inspire a massive response by the Sunnis nd whatever Baathists are still around. So this "justice" might come at a very high price in lives. It would really be shame if the legacy of Saddam's trial is hundreds or thousands more dead Iraqis. We'd pacified Germany by the time of the Nuremburg trials, and that's the biggest difference between then and now.
26. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:19 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 12:19
27. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>>It's not a mistake; it's justice. Grow a pair and stand up.
Brad: With all due respect, it's not YOUR neighborhood that might go up in flams as a result of this execution. It's not YOUR children who might be blown up in the street. It's easy to pontificate about "justice" when you are thousands of miles from the violence. I think the aftereffects of the execution are a valid factor to be considered.
27. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:24 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 12:24
28. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>>The death of Hussein will be more of a kick in the teeth of the bad guys currently in Iraq
Saddam is only a hero to the Sunnis, and the Sunnis are certainly not the only bad guys over there.
28. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 12:27 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 12:27
29. Posted by PoliticalCritic | December 29, 2006 12:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Death comes to us all...but tonight it will come to Saddam Hussein.
29. Posted by PoliticalCritic | December 29, 2006 12:32 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 12:32
30. Posted by cirby | December 29, 2006 12:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
blackcat77:
Actually, Iraq, as a whole, isn't "in anarchy" right now. Outside of a few places (covering about 1/3 of their population), things are pretty good. Even in the "bad places," Iraq is more stable and has more true rule of law than many of its neighbors.
There's an actual central government, with a real (though not completely trained) police force, and a populace that's, overall, trying to get on with their lives. The economy is growing very fast, as well - you don't have that in actual anarchies.
30. Posted by cirby | December 29, 2006 12:33 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 12:33
31. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cirby: There is a central government just like there is in Kabul. But like Kabul, the authority of that government doesn't extend much beyond the certain parts of the capital city. The test of the Maliki's power would be whether or not he can reduce terrorists' ability to act and it's clear that he has not. I agree that these terrorists are not equally active all over the country, but they are concentrating their activities where it's most effective, and up to now at least, nobody's stopping them. I just wish there was somebody out there who is sympathetic to the cause of democracy that people on all sides of the violence could at least respect -- finding that person is the key to turning things around.
31. Posted by blackcat77 | December 29, 2006 1:08 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 13:08
32. Posted by Lee | December 29, 2006 1:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The concern over Saddam's execution is understandable but misplaced in my estimation. A violent flare-up in response, if it occurs, should be short-lived.
The Iraqi nations need this closure... and the insurgents aren't fighting in support of Saddam's regime, they're fighting to rid their country of its occupiers. Once we leave the violence will subside and the Iraqi people can rebuild their country, and executing Saddam is something that we have to accomplish before we leave.
Let the swing begin.
32. Posted by Lee | December 29, 2006 1:09 PM |
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Posted on December 29, 2006 13:09
33. Posted by Jeff Irvin | December 29, 2006 1:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I am not a big fan of the death penalty, not because I think killing people is an "absolutely" horrible thing to do--some people just need killin', as they say. However, I have to wonder what message it sends to the world when the United States ensures the death of one man for his crimes aga