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Pelosi is Already Drunk on Power and Today's Just the First Day of Democratic Control

Pelosi's position as Speaker of the House is really going to her head. If she keeps this up, soon her aides will have to grease the sides of her head just to get her through the doors of the House.

A new Congress convenes today with a narrow Democratic majority lording over a despondent Republican minority.


While the full weight of Republicans' powerlessness sinks in after 12 years of control, Democrats are celebrating the historic election today of the first female speaker of the House.

"We have waited over 200 years for this time to come," Mrs. Pelosi said on the eve of her selection as speaker, a position that makes her second in line to the presidency after Vice President Dick Cheney.

"We will not just break through a glass ceiling, we will break through a marble ceiling," she said. "In more than 200 years of history, there was an established pecking order -- and I cut in line."

After calling herself "the most powerful woman in America," Mrs. Pelosi flexed her right muscle like a weight lifter to much applause at an event yesterday titled a "women's tea."

"All right, let's hear it for the power," she screamed as the jubilant applause continued.

Wow. That's really Obnoxious. Humility is far more attractive than arrogance, something she has yet to learn. It would also be smart for her to remember that the American voters put her in this position, and they can take it away from her. Let's pray that's the case two years from now.

And as USMC Pilot correctly reminded me, her own Democratic party could remove her from the office of Speaker sooner than two years if they become tired of her obnoxious attitude.

Update: Surprisingly, Andrea Mitchell thinks Pelosi's attitude is unseemly as well. Here's Andrea's question

Are you happy with this big celebration that Nancy Pelosi has planned for herself? Is it a bit unseemly to have Stevie Wonder and Tony Bennett and the dinners and the lunches and the brunches and the trip to Baltimore to rename the street in honor of her. Isn't this a little bit too imperial?

I'd say that comment must have smarted, but I don't think Nancy is feeling any pain right now.

Watch the video of Andrea's question here.


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Comments (206)

If she keeps talking, the A... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilotb:

If she keeps talking, the American public won't have to remove her from power, the Democrats in Washington will have already done it. She has alienated so many of her own party that I can't see her lasting for two years.

Going to slightly disagree ... (Below threshold)
Faith+1:

Going to slightly disagree here. Well, not so much as disagree as say it doesn't really matter.

Arrogance and obnoxiousness are traits of politicians as is love of power. We should not be surprised.

An expression of phony humility, to me, is worse than being honest about their obnoxious, power hungry ways.

The comments above apply to politicans regardless of party affiliation.

Faith+1:Your comme... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Faith+1:

Your comment is well taken. However, where as most politicians are smart enough to conceal those traits, Nancy Pelosi is standing on a soap box screaming them to the world. There is a reason that most politicians use the "expression of phony humility" route. It at least keeps them from looking realy stupid. Pelosi's mouth is starting to set her up as thinking she is "Queen of America", and about to disband parliment.

"Pride goeth before a fall,... (Below threshold)
Wethal:

"Pride goeth before a fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction."

Third in line? So... (Below threshold)
LJD:

Third in line?

So if some one shot HER, Bush would still be President, right?

LJD:Now thats funn... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

LJD:

Now thats funny!

In all fairness, it is</... (Below threshold)
Jess:

In all fairness, it is a major milestone having a female Speaker. Sure, I could do without the muscle-flexing, but as Faith+1 suggested above, I'd prefer that over phony humility any day.

All politicians want power; some are just better at masking it.

Gee, I guess Nancy Pelosi m... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Gee, I guess Nancy Pelosi meant it when she said this would be a really "open" congress. She's already "openly" stating that she's a power hungry obsessed woman. That didn't take long.

P.S. It's even more fun to... (Below threshold)
Jo:

P.S. It's even more fun to see them fall, stumble and humiliate themselves when they are so openly arrogant. These next two years should be a hoot.

Kim ,Wow - Everyday ... (Below threshold)
Mark Blahut:

Kim ,
Wow - Everyday , you are obnoxious and arrogant and it seems to be allright with most or your readers.
Between you and Lori , I am not sure who is less informed . If this was a republican woman ( I know that is a stretch ) Where would you find a capable woman in your party, you would be peeing yourself.
Keep electing retards like george and keep crying .
If you want women to lead , you must join the Democratic Party . A women will NEVER lead in your party, EVER. Kind of sad , but true .
Rebublican women are FOLLOWERS - They listen to the man leaders , sad , sad , sad .

Only on this sad deluded we... (Below threshold)
marty arrowsmith:

Only on this sad deluded web site can "patriots" get on line and suggest that pelosi be shot -thanks LJD

Third in line?

So if some one shot HER, Bush would still be President, right?

Posted by: LJD at January 4, 2007 09:00 AM

or talk about ignorance or arragnace with the comment from Wethal

"Pride goeth before a fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction."

Posted by: Wethal at January 4, 2007 08:56 AM

Unless that moron was talking about war criminal and chief George Bush and his cabal.

Feel the Hate

Ignorance is strength

Well, this is all part of p... (Below threshold)

Well, this is all part of politics as i mentioned in my previous post, politics keep changing everytime ans each time the scenario is completely different.

LJD, USMC Pilot, joking abo... (Below threshold)
Reality:

LJD, USMC Pilot, joking about the assasination of the speaker of the house is never funny. I have forwarded this thread to the FBI, we can let them decide.

marty arrowsmith:Y... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

marty arrowsmith:

You give us a short rant about "sad deluded web sites" and "ignorance or arragnace", and then you give us:

"Unless that moron was talking about war criminal and chief George Bush and his cabal."

Any chance that you could recognize the hypocricy of your post?

A "drunk" pelosi and old ma... (Below threshold)
drdoom:

A "drunk" pelosi and old man reid have still got to be better than a "leadership" that inluded moron man DR bill Frist who lamely thought he saw cognition in Schiavo. Even more frightening is that he saw cognition in Bush. What about the pedophile Foley. There is a champion for the working man for you. Ofcourse, these are "men" who support torture, disregard for habeus corpus, the support of an immoral and illegal war that has cost thousands of lives and our children's wealth.

Too bad I just can't remember that hypocrite's name who was the spritual adviser for Bush by day and gay meth addict by night.

And you think Pelosi is a danger to America

Wake Up

Reality:Thanks. I ... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Reality:

Thanks. I Have a long list of "moonbat" comments from the left at this site, talking about the posibilty of the death of the president, that I have been wanting to talk with them about.

Keep on "misunderestimating... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

Keep on "misunderestimating" her just like you did in November.

Tsk tsk USMC. Two wrongs make a right? I'm surprised at a man your age.

H

Leona Helmsley II... (Below threshold)
MRL:

Leona Helmsley II

And the demacrats want to s... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

And the demacrats want to strat taxing and spending as soon as they can get the grubby mitts on our tax money for every pork project they can dream up

spurwing:Yup, lust... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

spurwing:

Yup, lust like the trillion dollars soon to be spent policing a civil war in Iraq. Who spent that?

Hugh:No one is "un... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Hugh:

No one is "underestimating" (mis ?) her. The point is, if she continues to make herself the news, and not her agenda, she will not last long. Yes, there is an "old boy" network in the Republican party, but there is one in the Democratic party also, and if she steps on enough toes, it will remove her from the leadership.

Anyone who posts that they are referring someone to the FBI over a obvious joke is beneath contempt. My comment was ment to illustrate just how much I considered it that way.

I did NOT proppose that the... (Below threshold)
LJD:

I did NOT proppose that the Speaker should be shot, nor did I condone it.

I merely asked a question.

You took the bait, so take it for what you will, but it IS damn funny.

BTW I am more offended by t... (Below threshold)
LJD:

BTW I am more offended by the Washington times noting that she is third inline- as if you only have to kill two people to have a female President.

See how this works both ways?

Why is it that when people ... (Below threshold)
Jeff Irvin:

Why is it that when people do not have a cogent argument to make, or a valid criticism, they automatically turn to the "humility card"?

It seems to me that there are two types of humility. There is the equalitarian or leveling humility of those who think that no one should be in a position of power over them; and, so, they try to pull down anyone who has an ounce of confidence or assertiveness in our society. This is the attempt to establish a general false humility so that everyone will feel better.

Of course, respect and civility are different than humility. I personally think most people deserve respect and civility--that is until they lose it through their own actions. This is not, however, humility.

The second type of humility, which is true humility, is the kind that recognizes that there are others who are better at certain things than we are, or more worthy of respect and admiration than we are.

If you believe in God, then you should of necessity be humble before God since he/she is after all the all-knowing, all-powerful being of the universe. That does not mean that you owe humility to your fellow man--at least not until he/she has earned it.

So, let's stop all this talk of humility and instead demand that Pelosi and her party live up to the promises they have made. When they fail, as all politicians do when they abandon negotiation and compromise, there will be plenty of humble pie for everyone.

This is not a big deal, not... (Below threshold)

This is not a big deal, not only for the reasons previously mentioned, but also because the MSM has her back. I suspect that in next two years, there will be a number of stories like this, and the more conservatives huff and puff and get red in the face over them, the more they will be ignored by the MSM.

Of course, if this were Newt Gingrich or any other Republican Speaker, stories like this would be getting above-the-fold coverage all day, every day, 24/7.

The only remedy is defeating the Democrats electorally, but it remains to be seen whether the GOP will get its act together enough to make this happen. Personally, I'm not hopeful.

Nancy Pelosi's stint as Hou... (Below threshold)

Nancy Pelosi's stint as House Speaker will (mercifully) be a brief one. First of all, she reckons without the U.S. Senate at her peril. She and her arrogant minions can blather all they want, but the bottom line is that anything they pass then has to go to the Senate where the majority is only 1 and Senator Joe Lieberman is definitely the wild card in THAT equation. So they can waste their first 100 hours passing whateverinhell they want - the chances of it getting by the Senate are slender at best. And the failure of their feverish agenda will make them look as ridiculous as their behavior already does.

Second, should Speaker Pelosi show signs of harming La Clinton's presidential campaign, she will be summarily dealt with as only Hillary Rodham Clinton and her cabal can do!

Third - by the end of the 2 year Democratic House majority - the American people will be so disgusted with the Dems if they continue their present behavior that they will reverse the majority in record time. Do they honestly think that permitting that humbug Charlie Rangel to evict the Vice President of the United States from his office is calculated to endear them to any but the most deranged among them?

""All right, let's hear ... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

""All right, let's hear it for the power", shouted Pelosi.

Anyone else note a little irony that a former 'child of the 60's' (aka hippie) is shouting this ? I guess tyranny is only bad when it's not her brand.

USMCI don't for a ... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

USMC

I don't for a minute think you underestimate her. That comment was addressed to those who like to just mock her and have nothing substantive to say.

The other comment was just to prod you about your age. i got your point in your post.

I know there are legions of NY Times haters here, but there is a really good op-ed by David Brooks which is about wealth and power. He's a good conservative columnist whom I respect and like to read. Check it out. It's also a little humorous.

H

As the masterful Speaker Pe... (Below threshold)
nikkolai:

As the masterful Speaker Pelosi (dem/San Francisco) assumes her role as most powerful woman in history, evil-doers the world over quake in their boots.

What hath the voters wrought?

Hugh: Please post a link to... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

Hugh: Please post a link to that piece by David Brooks; sounds interesting.

Hugh,Good to see y... (Below threshold)
Adrienne:

Hugh,

Good to see you're still hanging with us...Who's really suprised by Speaker Pelosi's actions or attitudes...She really believes that America voted for her as speaker of the house...I'd like to point out that we don't hate the NYT...Okay not all of us do...Conservatives aren't monolithic (please forgive spelling)...That's a liberal fallacy my friend (or is it fantasy)...And we don't consider David Brooks a "really good conservative op-ed columnist"...He's okay and most likely a bit right of center, but calling the man conservative is a stretch...Happy New Year!

To quote the esteemed Chair... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

To quote the esteemed Chairman of the Democratic Party, "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH!" I hope the public reaction to her comments is the same as the reaction to Howard Dean.

Yo, Adrienne! You don't despise the NYT, but I certainly do. I wouldn't wrap fish guts with that rag. Not because I'm a Republican, but because it's a biased, dishonest and overbearing newspaper. I'll bet there might even be a few Democrats who feel the same way, somewhere...

Lying, cheating, stealing, ... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Lying, cheating, stealing, illegal immigrant hiring, botox dependent Socialist C---!

San Fran Nan: Because nothi... (Below threshold)
nikkolai:

San Fran Nan: Because nothing, and I mean NOTHING says good ol' All American Values like San Francisco. Those voters out there really know what makes the rest of America tick. Our local elementary school has weekly gay, bi, lesbian and transgender awareness parades--doen't everybody's?

Way to ingratitate yourself... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Way to ingratitate yourself with the masses, Nancy.

But what's really funny is that for all the Dem kavetching about Bush's "power grabs" or him being power hungry or drunk on power, Nancy flatout says she's "the most powerful woman in America".

Final thought: I bet Oprah takes issue with Nancy's claim! LOL

We all need to remember one... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

We all need to remember one thing.... the voters gave the majority power to the Democrats. That means that the neocon bloggers on Wizbang did not agree with the majority of voters in this past election

That's right, the voters did that. They said no more Republican control of the houses. And in 2008 they will speak again.

I suggest you keep putting McCain out in front. That ought to seal your fate.

Go Nancy, you go girl........

USMC Pilot said:"I... (Below threshold)
Faith+1:

USMC Pilot said:

"It at least keeps them from looking realy stupid. "

Respectfully disagree. I've seen no great evidence that politicians of any sort keep themselves from looking really stupid. I think they succeed in looking really stupid a good bit of the time.

Final thought: I b... (Below threshold)
Final thought: I bet Oprah takes issue with Nancy's claim! LOL

Not to mention Hillary! Clinton...

CB:Hope I don't bu... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

CB:

Hope I don't burst your bubble, but John McCain doen't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting the Republican nomination.

Old Coot:Here's th... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

Old Coot:

Here's the link to Brooks' column.

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/opinion/04brooks.html

H

Wait a minute... You're loo... (Below threshold)
Jack Mehoffe:

Wait a minute... You're looking for humility now?? Hmmm... Lemme think what it has been like the past 12 years..... Yep, I think I remember a whole lot of arm twisting, manipulation and corruption. Yeah.... And arrogance of power, too. People like you are just trying to make as many mountains as you can out of the slightestr little mole hill. Makes me wonder about your maturity. Last time I heard people act like you, I was in first grade. Good luck... And remember, congress has oversight responsibility. Something you were happy to yell and scream about when Clinton was president... Now its al about power... The president can do what he wants.... I hope Clinton gets elected again.
have fun
JM

I think it is a bit prem... (Below threshold)
Jenny:

I think it is a bit premature to make such drastic statments. Let the Dems have their day. We as America should be able to put aside such pety sniping to celebrate the first women "speaker of the house".... Viva Madam speaker!

It's always unseemly when t... (Below threshold)
Rotwang:

It's always unseemly when the OTHER party exudes arrogance, n'est-ce pas?

Try to stagger your indignation a tad. There's two more years (at least) of gorge-raising Democrat rule ahead of you, so you'll want to space it out. In fact, today is probably the kindest day you'll see for awhile, as the hard work of obstructing the President and dismantling the neocon fear-state dystopia proceeds apace.

But never fear. You, too, will be permitted to participate in the New Liberal Order...with only modest restrictions. And the remnants of conservatism will be on display and available for viewing, 7 days a week, at the proposed "Museum of Political Anachronisms" in Baraboo, Wisconsin.

"and...and she's mean, and ... (Below threshold)
Verchiel:

"and...and she's mean, and she's ugly, and...and she has COOTIES!"

Interesting how 12 years of strongarming vote after vote garnered nary a peep, but Pelosi is "drunk on power" after merely talking about the relatively historic position she holds.

An exceptionally irrelevant--and petty--bit of commentary if ever there was one.

Hate to use the word, but "... (Below threshold)
Emmazon:

Hate to use the word, but "dittoes" to the comment by Verchiel.

Nancy Pelosi is not third i... (Below threshold)

Nancy Pelosi is not third in line to the presidency. That honor would belong to Senator Robert Byrd, who was confirmed as President Pro Temporare of the Senate.

Oh, did I mention that Byrd is a former leader of the KKK and filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964? If Byrd were a Republican, he would have been forced to resign long, long ago.

Uh, Nancy, honey, I hate to... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Uh, Nancy, honey, I hate to remind you of this, but outside your district, no americans elected you to anything.

Geeeze, the arrogance of these people.

This is nothing compared to... (Below threshold)
DJShay:

This is nothing compared to the Republican's power binge. It's not so fun when the tables are turned, is it?

Get used to it, you got 2 y... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Get used to it, you got 2 years of Nancy, and eight years of Hillary

You republicans are the big... (Below threshold)
jim:

You republicans are the biggest bunch of babies. Get over yourselves and quit whining about humility and bipartisanship. You fucks had twelve years in power and look what you did. shut the fuck up, assholes.

WWWHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... (Below threshold)

WWWHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Hey righties, we won, payba... (Below threshold)
Albert DiChiara:

Hey righties, we won, payback is a mother.

If anyone is drunk with pow... (Below threshold)
Gromlin:

If anyone is drunk with power it's the Decider. He's decided he now needs to read our mail...

You honestly thought the an... (Below threshold)
John:

You honestly thought the antics of Tom Delay and Bill Frist would not end up biting Republicans in the ass? Nancy Pelosi is the least of Republican's problems as we start this Congress. Wait till the investigations start ramping up and you will be lucky if she isn't President Pelosi.

Man. You've got some chutz... (Below threshold)
jacob m:

Man. You've got some chutzpah. The Republicans have ruled Washington like some abysmal combination of drunken sailor on shore leave and abusive, domineering father. When Newt arrived in Washington he was feted far more than any preceding Speaker. Of course it has long been the stance of the GOP that which is okay and permissible for themselves is evil, decadent and corrupt when enjoyed by Democrats.

I am going to enjoy the next few years as GOP hacks such as yourself and Andrea Mitchell have to choke on your own hypocrisy. The GOP was domineering, self-congratulatory and uncompromising; now that the tables have been turned you are going to whine and expect a comity you never offered. It would be high comedy were it not so pathetic.

P.S.- Jo, we live in a representative Democracy. When the representatives of the people are elected they speak for their constituents; you did not vote, personally, for Pelosi but your if your rep did then he or she did so with the authority of his or her constituents. Given the nature of our government, when your Rep does X, you in some part do X. :)

Hypocrite is spelled R-e-p-... (Below threshold)
Stephennnn:

Hypocrite is spelled R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n

You People are a bunch of F... (Below threshold)
fascistUSA:

You People are a bunch of FASCISTS.

BOTH Parties are Corrupt.

Lord Bush is a Dictator.

Our Democracy is OVER.

Imperial? Not as imperial a... (Below threshold)
Scott:

Imperial? Not as imperial as opening my private mail......

well what we need , should ... (Below threshold)
balence:

well what we need , should have had , and is described in the constitution is a coequal branch. If the republicans in congress had had a sense of thier power and responsibility the democrates would not be there.

Do you realize how many republicans have been chased out of the party by this administration? The spending, big goverment, incompetance is stunning.

You want to know where I learned this... It was from you Dad!

It used to be that we could mix and match the two competing philosophies getting the best most stable governance possible. The republicans just gave up any pretense of being for the people and sold out to corporations on immigration, the war, and tried to use religion to do it.

Well, if Nancy Pelosi is "d... (Below threshold)
HeardItHereFirstFolks:

Well, if Nancy Pelosi is "drunk on power", it's still better than GDumbya who is just plain "a drunk".

http://thumbsnap.com/v/6YvXAPG0.jpg

Sour grapes.If it ... (Below threshold)
Len:

Sour grapes.

If it were John Boner (sp?) up there screaming "All right, let's hear it for the power!" you all would be screaming right along with him.

The lady made history today. Have the balls to let her have her hour of celebration.

""All right, let's hear ... (Below threshold)
Tom:

""All right, let's hear it for the power", shouted Pelosi.

Anyone else note a little irony that a former 'child of the 60's' (aka hippie) is shouting this ? I guess tyranny is only bad when it's not her brand.

Posted by: _Mike_

Tyranny sir is 6 years of the Bush administration. She DOES have the power now, doesn't she? So why do you whine about it? When Frist and his bunch were ruining america, you didn't bitch about tyranny then, huh? Why now? You lost. Most of America was sick of the way YOUR party has run things - and they got thrown out! That is very clear, no? Gosh, sir. Get used to representative democracy. It is here to stay - regardless of what your preznit's signing statements say.

Quote: Wow. That's really O... (Below threshold)
pwnsauce:

Quote: Wow. That's really Obnoxious.

Good, it is because you lost, now quit whining you losers.

Get over it you LOST!!!!!!!... (Below threshold)
rick:

Get over it you LOST!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding King George.. Rew... (Below threshold)
Ed:

Regarding King George.. Reworded from the initial post....

[Wow. That's really obnoxious. Humility is far more acceptable than arrogance, something he has yet to learn. It would also be smart for him to remember that the American voters put him in this position, and congress can take it away from him. Let's pray that's the case within this session of congress.

BTW, King George just gave himself, via a signing statement, ultimate power to read anybody's mail....ANY American's mail. Not that any of you conservatives care.....

Has the power gone to his tiny little head? YOU DECIDE.... FAIR-n-balanced.

Conservatism = dead except ... (Below threshold)
rightiswrong:

Conservatism = dead except to white males playing victim, you LOSE!

If Byrd were a Republica... (Below threshold)
mantis:

If Byrd were a Republican, he would have been forced to resign long, long ago.

Just like Strom Thurmond, right? Oh, wait...

The rightwing nuts excel at... (Below threshold)
Devil's Advocate:

The rightwing nuts excel at paranoid victimhood.

It's fun watching them foam at the mouth because their party is now relegated to the minority. Hehehe...

GOP whining already, no sur... (Below threshold)
jesus of suburbia:

GOP whining already, no surprise there. poor us minority rich white christians LOL

The Republicans Are Already... (Below threshold)
Devil's Advocate:

The Republicans Are Already Whining and Snivelling and Today's Just the First Day of Democratic Control

Isn't it fucking hilarious ... (Below threshold)
Demosthenes:

Isn't it fucking hilarious that the Repubs have, seemingly overnight, transformed from the so-called "Daddy party" to the "Whiney-ass-titty-baby party"?

Gotta love their crying about not being able to "provide input" on all that new legislation the Dems are putting forth this month.

Oh, and crying about Pelosi being proud of her achievement. That's fucking RICH coming from the party whose disgraced former leader once declared "I AM the Federal Government".

Thy hypocrisy hath no bounds....

Has anyone pointed out here... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Has anyone pointed out here that Pelosi did not say any of the things you quote her as saying here.
How desperate are you that you have to deceive?

Obnoxious? This from a site... (Below threshold)
trevorius:

Obnoxious? This from a site that cannot spell 'aides' correctly, or was the 'aids' on purpose?
I remember the republicans cutting microphones and turning lights out on democrats.
Hastert did not even respond to Pelosi about her minority bill of rights,so now the republicans are whining.
Sour grapes and jealousy is what I see now.

Andrea Mitchell thinks that... (Below threshold)
Ken from Ken's Kitchen:

Andrea Mitchell thinks that the first Italian-American female speaker of the House should avoid attending a hometown celebration in her honor because getting a street named after her is a little too "imperial?"

Has she been napping for six years?

How about those weekly Cheney/Rove "mafia motorcades" to the Repub Senate breakfast to crack the whip, keeping their GOP gang in line? Or GWB's heavy-handed use of presidential signing statements which the American Bar Association this past July described as "contrary to the rule of law and our constitutional system of separation of powers?" Not a little too "imperial" for her?

If anyone is drunk on power, it's the Washington press corps, and that especially includes the wife of our former treasury secretary.

So many cry babies complain... (Below threshold)
Eamon:

So many cry babies complaining about the democratic process. Meanwhile, the "Decider" decides he has the right to open your mail any time he feels like it. And Repugs are concerned about power going to Pelosi's head.

You know what the great equ... (Below threshold)
Stormcrow:

You know what the great equalizer, the ultimate 'comeuppance' is in politics? It's called 'over-reach'. And if you're one of those thinking any of this is unfair in anyway, it's because the Republicans over-reached every single day since Bush43 took office. Sensennbrenner's switching off of lights in the committee hall, George W.'s endless freakin' signing statements, countless budgetary earmarks when the country's in debt up to its dandruff and Dick Cheney's Halliburton-inspired corporate loot-o-rama have brought it all about. Nothing's worse than whiners who won't blame themselves for being so stupid. Republicans could have stopped it and didn't. Nothing beats a long fall in reminding one of the power of gravity.

Shorter Wizbang: Bwaa bw... (Below threshold)
John Bolton:

Shorter Wizbang: Bwaa bwaaaaa bwa bwa bwaaaa BWAAAAH!

"Isn't it fucking hilari... (Below threshold)
John Bolton:

"Isn't it fucking hilarious that the Repubs have, seemingly overnight, transformed from the so-called "Daddy party" to the "Whiney-ass-titty-baby party"?

Overnight? More like a matter of hours in both the halls of Congress and the Union of Doctrinaire Red Amerika Blogistans!

WOW, the repubs are already... (Below threshold)
luKE:

WOW, the repubs are already coming unhinged and the fun hasn't even really started. This is nothing my friends, just a momentary celebration. Trust me, in a few days the hulla-ballu will fade and the hard-nosed business of turning this country back to its centrists roots will begin. Congress is not only in the control of the Dems, but many repug senators and reps are saying "ENOUGH" to the Bush league team they've fielded.
Soon the cover will be lifted and what will emerge from the putrid cauldron of the last 6 years is going to rock your world. Many repubs have already begun jumping ship and soon the other less visionary ones will be scurrying away like cockroaches caught in the light. Bush and Cheney will be left standingalone and as their fog lifts they will see they are next to the gallows, surrounded by Pelosi et al, and will be wondering "should I jump or secure the rope to break my fall?. Either way it's a one way trip to hell! For your own sanity I recommend you get out while you can!

What's awesome is that she ... (Below threshold)
Steve:

What's awesome is that she has been speaker for a couple of hours and, I assume this is a right-wing website, the right is pissed off because she came out and declared pride? She showed some muscle and strength? I wanted her to be speaker. I'm proud of the fact that she is a woman. I'm glad she has the balls to stand up there and flex those muscles. It's all perspective. Many americans voted out the republicans because they were corrupt and people don't like the way they worked in congress and the administration. They didn't like the direction the country is going. They want change. Who better to change it than someone who is excited and energized and ready to get to work.

Give them (the democrats) at least a week before we assume they are going to "tax and spend" things to death. Progressive thinking is going to be very beneficial to this nation. If I'm wrong, in 6 months or two years, we will see. But how could ANYTHING they do be worse than what the last six years has brought us? It's hard to even imagine.

Well up here in Canada we a... (Below threshold)
JD:

Well up here in Canada we are all breathing a collective sigh of relief that the Republican dynasty - so incompetently run by the dumbest person to inhabit the White House and enabled by the biggest bunch of self serving crooks and yes men in the history of the Congress - is finally coming to a close.
Two more years of Bush - sigh - it's like a prison sentence isn't it?

Quotes taken from Wikipedia... (Below threshold)
Ed:

Quotes taken from Wikipedia.....from your POWER-HUNGRY friend, Tom Delay

[On Government.....
• I am the Federal Government
o to a waitress who asked him to put out his cigar because smoking in a restaurant in Washington is against Federal law.

• Nothing's worse than a woman know-it-all.
 April 4, 2006

• I am not a federal employee. I am a constitutional officer. My job is the Constitution of the United States; I am not a government employee. I am in the Constitution.
o From Talk Back Live on CNN 1995 December 19

• We have a small faction, and they are a minority, who believe they are there to govern. Then there is the majority of us who believe that indeed we are there to govern but more importantly we are there to be an opposition to the Democratic philosophy and the only way to do that is through confrontation.
o On bipartisanship ~ From the Houston Chronicle 1991 April 14]

If I was the Vice President, I'd have the authority to take you on a hunting trip and SHOOT YOU.
GOD, you people are COLECTIVELY STUPID!

Ah,my, my. Not only did Que... (Below threshold)
NorthwestNeocon:

Ah,my, my. Not only did Queen Nancy take the gavel today, she also tossed the keys of asylum to the inmates. Evidence: the last 30 or so posts in this thread.

Cuckoo for Coco puffs, really.

Posted by: NorthwestNeocon ... (Below threshold)
Demosthenes:

Posted by: NorthwestNeocon at January 4, 2007 05:07 PM

Wow, you really nailed it there didn't ya?

Nothing at all crazy about your fellow mouthbreathers comments about Pelosi being shot.

Nothing crazy about asking the Dems to consider a bill that your party not only rejected, but comletely ignored before, either.

Do you try to be this dim, or does it just come naturally?

Quote: Cuckoo for Coco puff... (Below threshold)
rightiswrong:

Quote: Cuckoo for Coco puffs, really.

Cry more for us losers

Bla,Bla,BlaNo way ... (Below threshold)
Gene:

Bla,Bla,Bla

No way will she be any worse than Delay...

You just made my point, moo... (Below threshold)
NorthwestNeocon:

You just made my point, moonbats. Thanks!

If we liberals try to be du... (Below threshold)
Ed:

If we liberals try to be dumb, we just channel George Bush

If we liberals try to be insensitive, we just channel Cheney.

If we liberals try to be clueless, we channel the Republicans in the 109th Congress.

But really, you can interchange Bush, Cheney, Repubs for any of the three.


Now that we've taken the car keys away from you, we'll show you how the country should REALLY be run.
Just stick that thumb of yours back in your mouth and shut up for a few years.

'NARROW' majority???? The D... (Below threshold)
JD:

'NARROW' majority???? The Dems have a larger majority than the Republicans had thelast two years.....please check your FACTS before using such a ridiculous untrue statement.

Posted by: NorthwestNeocon ... (Below threshold)
Demosthenes:

Posted by: NorthwestNeocon at January 4, 2007 05:17 PM

And you just made my point.

That being that you and your fellow GOoPers have suddenly transformed into a bunch of whiney-ass-titty-babies.

Cry me a river.

Republicans are crybabies.<... (Below threshold)
asdf:

Republicans are crybabies.

You guys and your rhetoric.... (Below threshold)
oldwolf:

You guys and your rhetoric. Obviously the right just needs to check the recent history to find the statements made by those just previously in power and then we'll talk about the drunk with power issue and who should be taken out of power. Most bullies are cowards and when faced with the same that they dish out turn tail and run, after name calling and such of course.

And thank you raw story for... (Below threshold)
oldwolf:

And thank you raw story for letting true Americans know about this blog so we can tell it like it is.

Hey conservatives, don't be... (Below threshold)
Reginald Perrin:

Hey conservatives, don't be such a bunch of complainers. Here's what your new Minority Leader, Rep. Boehner had to say:

"It's sometimes said the Founding Fathers would not recognize the government that exists in Washington today. . .that it has grown in size and scope far beyond anything they ever imagined, much less endorsed or advocated for our future. But today marks an occasion I think the Founding Fathers would view approvingly. My fellow Americans: whether you're a Republican, a Democrat, or an independent, this is a cause for celebration."

Would it actually kill you to stop complaining and demonizing just for one day, and celebrate the fact that our nation, lagging years behind most other industrialized nations, finally has a woman in a position of power? Can you understand how that might go to a person's head just a little, and make them a little exuberant? Your Minority Leader had the class to celebrate this event and say some nice things, so either say something nice too or just shut up, for just one day. You can go back to whining about how unfair it all is, and hoping that the Democrats fail (whatever the consequences for the country, and making little gold images of W to worship tomorrow, k?

Click on my name... (Below threshold)

Click on my name

Northeast Neocon spouted:</... (Below threshold)
John Bolton:

Northeast Neocon spouted:

"Cuckoo for Coco puffs, really."

As a self-admitted adherent to a doctrine that has proven to be shortsighted, erroneous and outright stupid, you are really one to talk!

"Wow. That's really Obnoxio... (Below threshold)
Ron:

"Wow. That's really Obnoxious. Humility is far more attractive than arrogance"

This from a person who labels his blog "Explosively Unique".

Well, I see that Kos has in... (Below threshold)
Cousin Dave:

Well, I see that Kos has instructed his acolytes to come over here and spam. (Or maybe it's only one acolyte engaging in sock puppetry -- I see a lot of first-time posters here.) That's okay. When you show your @$$, you get attention. Just probably not the kind of attention you wanted.

I'm laughing at the idea that you think it's only Republicans who are going to get rolled. You guys haven't noticed, but Queen Nancy tolerates no back-talk from anyone, and that includes the Democratic Party hoi-polloi. Just wait till she finishes railroading all of the fist-term Blue Dogs, who are destined to become one-term wonders thanks to Her Highness the Speaker. Two years of Pelosi rule practically guarantees a solid Republican majority in 2008.

Sounds like some sour grape... (Below threshold)
john:

Sounds like some sour grapes there. Pelosi is arrogant? I believe the President is "The Decider." And being first woman speaker isn't a big deal I suppose...
Whine, whine, whine

love it!!! he he he DEAL WI... (Below threshold)
lib:

love it!!! he he he DEAL WITH IT REPUGS!!!! lol

Spawn-of-Cousins Dave whine... (Below threshold)
John Bolton:

Spawn-of-Cousins Dave whined:

"Well, I see that Kos has instructed his acolytes to come over here and spam."

Um, no, Dave.

Wizbang is on my Mozilla daily Routine applet.

It's in the bookmarks folder marked "Unintentionally funniest conservative blogs."

Have a nice two years, sore loser.

Get over it you stupid dumb... (Below threshold)
Longboardersurf:

Get over it you stupid dumb fuck Republithugs. All you can print is lies and innuendo, spawned by your corporate masters. stand aside or go backt to the 18th century and let us move forward to return this country to its former greatness and normalcy. Quit whining you assholes. You had your chanced and you fucked it up by constant bickering and bigoted politics. We're tired of your scum-sucking, gay-bashing, bigoted monstrosity. Go worship the false idols of your dead religions and party.

BooMan gets it just right a... (Below threshold)
John Bolton:

BooMan gets it just right about the whiny-ass t!tty babies:

"The best part of watching the election, swearing in, and speach of Nancy Pelosi was the sourpuss looks on the Republicans. Right after Nancy got done speaking, the ranking member on the Rules Committee, David Dreier of California, rose and began whining in real earnest. The gist of it was something along the lines of what is good for the goose is not really very good at all for the gander. Pelosi relished the irony. Ms. Pelosi is feeling it."

BOO_YUH! Love the swipe at David Dreier's high dudgeon hissy.

Aaah Always nice to read cr... (Below threshold)
European:

Aaah Always nice to read crazy partisan american stuff to make me feel less sad about my own country.

Thank god for the constitutional monarchy and parlementary democracy. LOL

I knew conseervatives I.E. ... (Below threshold)
JAG:

I knew conseervatives I.E. Republicans were vengeful. And they always take to the GUN to solve any problem they can't cope with legally. "Kill Pelosi". That is tres warped. Who would be prez if Bush and Cheney were "gone"? Stop and think. You cheated in 00 and 04. now cope with it, we won fair and square. Brace for 08, Fools.

Most of these posters must ... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

Most of these posters must be spam. They make little or no senses. The way the left have acted so far. It won't take long for them to hang themselves, which will help the GOP greatly in 2008 elections. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how costly it will be with 2 years of liberal control. Hopefully not to much.

ding dong the corrupt neo-r... (Below threshold)
Kurt Sanderson:

ding dong the corrupt neo-right wing is dead

I love you all. Peace... (Below threshold)
Quietlywithmyfamily:

I love you all. Peace
Hold those profiting from war accountable

Hi, I just stumbled onto th... (Below threshold)

Hi, I just stumbled onto this Web site by accident. It's pretty much the stupidest Web site I've seen so far. Keep it up, maybe you can get the Absolute Stupidest Award for 2007.

For a group of people whose... (Below threshold)
WJM:

For a group of people whose biggest statement for months before the election was "We won, get over it", you righties sure can't take it, can you? You remind me of the bullies on the playground who took on a little kid, thinking they would have an easy mark, only to find out that kid had been studying karate. Once your asses get kicked, you are the first to whine like a spoiled child.

We've had to listen to you all proclaim how the dems would never take another seat in congress, how far off the mark we were, how we have no support etc, for years, now, and we've taken it. Now it's YOUR turn, shut up and take it like MEN, not spoiled babies who got their hands slapped for grabbing something they shouldn't have.

You people have acted like children since 1994 when you took over congress. Anyone old enough to remember that? Newt and his buddies PUBLICALLY said they weren't even talking to any dems for 100 DAYS, not 100 HOURS, and they didn't. Made complete asses out of themselves, and you rightie idiots cheered for it. Drunk with power? You righties had that title for 12 years, and especially for the last 6.

This is a historical occassion, there has NEVER been a woman in that chair. Get over her celebrating that fact for women all over the country. And indeed, the world.

Grow up and get over it. Your leaders as well as yourselves sound like pathetic little whiners. And THIS is the ONLY party that could keep us safe? From WHAT? You certainly don't sound like a masculine, mature, grown up party to me. They sound suspiciously like the babies on the schoolyard. Tell your leaders they are embarrassing to the rest of us in this country.

Oh, and BTW, she IS the third in line for the presidency. Learn your own gov't please, before you spit out uninformed crap, unlike your leaders and pundits.

_Mike_At summed up the whol... (Below threshold)
Not Dick but Richard:

_Mike_At summed up the whole neocon philosphy when he said

"I guess tyranny is only bad when it's not her brand."

He may have been talking about Pelosi, but he's actually summing up the rightwing mindset.

Watch the righties and they will tell you everything they are truly about when they tell you how bad the left is. Its classic transference and a sign of truly sick minds.

Wayne, those posts don't ma... (Below threshold)
SeeyaCons:

Wayne, those posts don't make sense to unthinking zealots. Well, to people like YOU, really. See, that's because they talk about things you conservatives don't understand, like "hypocrisy".

You people had 6 years to do it your way, and you wrecked the house with your parties. Mom and Dad are home now, and they are PISSED.

You people ain't seen NUTHIN' yet- wait until the investigations start.

THAT'S when you guys will REALLY be crying.

"This would be a lot easier... (Below threshold)
jesus of suburbia:

"This would be a lot easier if this were a dictatorship...just so long as I'm the dictator"
Gee I wonder who said that. Free tin foil helmet to the rethugliklan who names that quote!!

Here's the deal, see: the ... (Below threshold)
faboofour:

Here's the deal, see: the more you dopes contradict yourselves (like absurdly saying that Pelosi is arrogant after years of agreeing with Dubya's "I've got political capital 'n' I'm gonna spend it" bullhooey), the more idiotic you look to more people so you're going to get called on being dopey more often.

Not Rocket Science.

I can't help but wonder how... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

I can't help but wonder how many of these posts came from the same IP address. Some of them have Lee-Lee wee-wee all over them.

One would expect the R'cons... (Below threshold)
tony bennett:

One would expect the R'cons to act like this. I heard one of them this morning calling foul because they were not allowed to add amendments during the first 100 hours. I remember the R'cons doing this on many occasions. Their biggest fear is that the Democrats will treat them the way they treated the dems. And they should be treated the same way. But the Democrats have more class than that. We will treat them as EQUALS until they revert to their old ways. As far as Nancy P. goes, being the first woman to ever hold that position, she deserves to celebrate a little. I have not heard of any of her party that are running from her. On the contrary, they are all with her 100%. After all she is part of the reason the Dem, won this election. Her strong leadership, and the way she handled the R'con hit men adds a layer of dignity that has been missing from congress for 12 years now. And she could never be as bad as Newt or Dennis. They were a disgrace to the office.

One would expect the R'cons... (Below threshold)
tony bennett:

One would expect the R'cons to act like this. I heard one of them this morning calling foul because they were not allowed to add amendments during the first 100 hours. I remember the R'cons doing this on many occasions. Their biggest fear is that the Democrats will treat them the way they treated the dems. And they should be treated the same way. But the Democrats have more class than that. We will treat them as EQUALS until they revert to their old ways. As far as Nancy P. goes, being the first woman to ever hold that position, she deserves to celebrate a little. I have not heard of any of her party that are running from her. On the contrary, they are all with her 100%. After all she is part of the reason the Dem, won this election. Her strong leadership, and the way she handled the R'con hit men adds a layer of dignity that has been missing from congress for 12 years now. And she could never be as bad as Newt or Dennis. They were a disgrace to the office.

I find the lefties here tel... (Below threshold)
Faith+1:

I find the lefties here telling the Repubs to "get over it, you lost an election" absolutely hilarious considering their behavior since the 2000 election.

And yes, many of the posts seem like sock puppets...

SeeyaConsYou talk ... (Below threshold)
Wayne:

SeeyaCons

You talk about hypocrisy but don't give any example. Almost all I see is personal insults, gloating and unsupported accusations. I suspect the liberal posters had already had their mindset in place and talking points written before reading one post on this site.

I too suspect many of these liberal posts came from the same IP address since many of them have the same grossly improper sentence structure and misspelling. Not that improper English or poor writing skills necessarily takes away from the thought behind the writing. Even the one with proper English has the same sentence structure and rhythm. It just looks suspicious

Hey DrDoomYou ment... (Below threshold)
John S:

Hey DrDoom

You mentioned Schiavo. Is Tim Johnson out of that coma yet? Control of the Senate is still up in the air.

The above leftard podling p... (Below threshold)
Okra:

The above leftard podling poster is the same weirdo repeating the same gibberish over and over..Maybe its the Queen of kooks Herself??

Strange isn't it?N... (Below threshold)
marc:

Strange isn't it?

Notice a very large majority of the commenters on this thread have hardly, if ever, been a part of any discussion at Wizbang.

The majority that fall under that category also are of the 5th grade playground model of discourse. I.E. ninner, ninner, it's our ball now... suck eggs!!!

I agree Faith+1, I suspect the same. A little work behind the scenes may in fact discover a few IP's are attached to various names in this thread.

If that is true one would hope, 1.offenders would get the permanent boot and 2. full disclosure as to who the perps are.

The posts reek of the scent... (Below threshold)
914:

The posts reek of the scent of Mak44 but it could'nt be could it?

Sock puppetry for sure.

Marc, as a matter of fact, ... (Below threshold)
WJM:

Marc, as a matter of fact, this is the first time I've ever been here. I didn't even know that a rightie blog site that allowed dissenting posts existed. I've never seen one before. The blogmaster here is to be commended. As for how many of the posts are by the same person, it's funny you should say that. They say the exact same thing about the righties on Raw Story.

Sorry, but I really suspect that you are as outnumbered as you think. The thing is that you have been listening to people whose goal was to divide this country, dumb it down and conquer us from the inside, just like we were warned about by Ben Franklin. They have told you about how terrible we are, how we want everything for nothing, how we want the terrorists to win, how we are all terrorists ourselves, how we all have islamic middle names and we meet in secret at night to overthrow Christmas.

What they don't tell you is that we are ALL Americans, and it's time that we start treating each other with more respect than they have been treaing us with. If we continue to let them divide us like this, we will be in a civil war of our own before long, and we will have no one but our own "leaders" to blame. What good does it do for us to be at each other's throats when there are people all over the world who would do that for us? We don't need to take that on for ourselves.

Here is my real point, after all that. If you want respect, you have to give respect. It's the ONLY way it works. For the last 12 years, we have been treated to the worst display of disrespect that one party has ever shown to another in this country. And now for you to sit and cry like a batch of babies is not particularly flattering. Your party sat there for the last 5 years bad mouthing the rest of us at every opportunity. I've been called a cmmunist, a nazi, a traitor, a terrorist, gay, a seditionist, a wiccan satanist, and that is just what I can remember off the top of my head. Respect is a two way street, and if you treat people like shit when you are on top, chances are good you will have to eat a fair amount of it yourself when the situation is reversed.

Make any sense?

What has happened to this t... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

What has happened to this thread over the past several hours reminds me of steeling all of the "W's" off the keyboards at the WH. Hopefully, the children will get tired soon and their parents will make them go to bed.

Keep it up.You're ... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Keep it up.

You're just making our job easier in 2008.

Thanks, Dems. You're just showing why you couldn't get power for 12 yrs.

Now, it's time for a solution here and there and not just petty bitching from the left.
-=Mike

"For the past 12 years W... (Below threshold)
914:

"For the past 12 years We have been treated to the worst display of disrespect that one party has ever shown to another in this country."

Your right! And now they almost have the majority..

This post was linked to on ... (Below threshold)
Ken from Ken's Kitchen:

This post was linked to on The Raw Story. That's how we discovered you. More than 5 libs show up here to respond and you want/have to assume sock puppetry.

Consider this: when the WaPo published Sen Lieberman's neocon paen to Iran-invasion the other day, the Post got over 37 pages of blistering online negative responses. Wake-up time! There are lots more of us out here than you can even imagine.

Hey USMC Moron?Tha... (Below threshold)
Chesty Puller, Real American:

Hey USMC Moron?

That story about the "W" was a lie created by you wingnut crybabies. But you don't care, do you? The truth means nothing.

To the point.

I've emailed my DEMOCRATIC lawmakers and informed them that I expect them to screw over the Republican traitors at every turn. Make them pay for their hubris and evil and stupidity. Republicans don't believe in America or the Constitution or truth or justice or anything else, and the hell with you all. Ash-heap of history for you!!

We win, you lose. Fucking crybabies.

It's people like USMC pilot... (Below threshold)
Reality:

It's people like USMC pilot that made us lose the war.

I'm so glad that the left h... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

I'm so glad that the left has dropped the "We support the troops and love America" meme to the side.

Nobody believed it ANYWAY, but it's always nice to point to specific examples.
-=Mike
...The GOP needs to filibuster everything and Bush needs to learn to use that veto liberally...

Oh gonna pull the "support ... (Below threshold)
Chesty Puller:

Oh gonna pull the "support the troops" bullshit, eh MikeSC?

You coward. Go to Iraq with your idiot master or STFU you traitor.

Un-American bastard.

Chesty Puller, you've been warned. Anymore obnoxiously insulting remarks like this one to another commenter and you are banned. Got it?

To disagree is one thing. What you wrote is completely out of line.

Hope they are all earing ... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Hope they are all earing their helmet and have a fre h chain of diaper .

MikeSC - a fine example of ... (Below threshold)
Zog The Obvious:

MikeSC - a fine example of why I dislike conservatives so much. Somebody doesn't agree with you? Well, shoot! They must HATE AMERICA!

To those who think this celebration of good fortune on Nancy Pelosi's part is unseemly... let us remember that George was crowing about his mandate after winning the election by less than a percentage point in 2004. 51% is not a mandate. What we saw this past November, 2006... now THAT was a mandate.

Zog.

After all yhe GOP members w... (Below threshold)
Abe Linkoln:

After all yhe GOP members were the ONLY one who never were intoxicated with power. They were low profile, did not brag and served the country with humility and modesty. Now the GOP members have become whiners and cannot bear losses gracefully. These people destroyed the US financially by running up huge deficits and borrowing and people like LJD, USMC Pilot cannot recognize them. It looks like the US sent a whole bunch of people like USMC Pilot and thus the US Military is in the situation it is in Iraq. All people like USMC Pilot et al know is kill innocent Iraqi children, old people and women and claim that they are terrorists. They may escape time because of a good legal defense, etc, but the Divine Court of the LORD will not spare them. Those of you who know, RNC Chair Lee Atwater (Father Bush's Campaign Manager and strategist) dies at the old age of 40 years and a few months. So doing good every day and being honesty is important.

The last honest GOP President was Dwight Eisenhower.

Honest Abe

Contrary to most of you, I ... (Below threshold)
Beth P.:

Contrary to most of you, I ACTUALLY WATCHED Nancy Pelosi's speech on C-SPAN. As usual, the regressives have taken her comments and actions totally out of context. Speaker Pelosi was jubilantly referring to her GENDER, not her political party or even herself, as *finally* having reached such a prestigious position of power. The double-standards many people have for what's appropriate for men vs. for women is outrageous. Speaker Pelosi's comments and demeanor were nowhere near "inappropriate" for this occasion. Rather, this truly is a time for celebration for ALL women in this country.

As for critical women like Andrea Mitchell, well, women unfortunately are very often their own worst enemy.

Beth, you just described th... (Below threshold)

Beth, you just described the double standard yourself.

If we are to truly look at each other as people. She should be celebrating her party and not her gender.

Yawn. More republicans try... (Below threshold)
JR:

Yawn. More republicans trying to define for the American people what behavior they should and should not find acceptable. Newsflash - America stopped listening to you at 12:01am on November 8th.

Wow. That's really Obnox... (Below threshold)
Nobody:

Wow. That's really Obnoxious. Humility is far more attractive than arrogance, something she has yet to learn. It would also be smart for her to remember that the American voters put her in this position, and they can take it away.

Are you talking about Bush?

p.s. f.W!

Welcome to Wizbang, democra... (Below threshold)
Fordrill:

Welcome to Wizbang, democrats! For the short time I've been viewing this blog it's been frequented by a huge echo chamber of flatulantly conservative morons and only a few brave left-leaning posters (Lee, Hugh, etc.).

It's nice to see the cavalry finally - and how most of the bloated right wingers have retreated from even attempting to post.

I agree Faith+1, I suspe... (Below threshold)
stevenrobb:

I agree Faith+1, I suspect the same. A little work behind the scenes may in fact discover a few IP's are attached to various names in this thread.


If that is true one would hope, 1.offenders would get the permanent boot and 2. full disclosure as to who the perps are.

What's wrong, MikeSC, can't take a dissenting voice? What a coward you are when confronted with real equal debate. You're such a spineless loser.

These people aren't one IP address. They are the American majority. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's about time.

The party of pedophiles, pr... (Below threshold)
trippin:

The party of pedophiles, prostitues, and pilfery LOST. That's not conjecture, that's not throwing around insults -- that's the sad fact. And insults of Pelosi are the best you can offer? As if Bush and Cheney and the rest aren't drunk with power? That's postively laughable. I think your time would be better spent doing a little soul searching, that is, if you ever hope to regain political relevance in the future. Your party has a lot of work to do, and I wish you well, but you'll really have to get back in touch with reality if you ever hope to make any headway.

This truly is a disgrace... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

This truly is a disgracefull day in History and and a shame for women when The Queen of Hypocracy crowns herself House Leader. (Sick) Democrats regained the majority through lies , smears and false accusations repeated 24/7 for 6 straight years by their democrat propagandist Media. Not that there weren't some mistakes made by some Republicans and the back stabbing by some Rino's Psuedo-Republican's.
That being said there is absolutely nothing the democrats did to deserve their victories. The Media was resposible more than anything in this deceitfull fraud perpetrated on our Country. The Criminal democrats showed just how greedy and criminal they are when they still tried to steal yet another election down in Florida. That is just how the Rats opperate and they are proud of it. It doesn't really matter that they lie cheat and steal , they have no morals or conscience and the product of their incompetance and failures have come to this site to pay us a visit to show us what we already know as fact, "LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE".

"The Raw Story". That explains why they all sound like a bunch of illiterate retards spewing what they have been told is the "Raw Dope" after they have smoked some. Now I'm a Registered Democrat of 20 years and I'm telling all you idiots screw off. I will never vote for the traitorous democrat party of lying frauds. You can continue in your ignorant ways because , well you are too stupid to do otherwise. Even the democrat leadership calls you stupid and you still vote for them. Now that is utterly pathetic and makes you all a horses ass.LOL.

Rob, why do you hate Americ... (Below threshold)
Reality:

Rob, why do you hate America?

"confronted with real equal... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"confronted with real equal debate."

What debate ? We give up , you win , we believe you are retards, you've concvinced us.

"The party of pedophiles"

That would be the democrat party. As a matter of fact the Pussycrats got PUNKED by their own pedophile. Gerry Studs made the Democrats his bitches,lol.That allowed Barney Franks boyfriend to run a male escort service out of his own house. That's why democrats are such cowards and sissies.Their so sensitive.

Hey plastic face Pelosi, where is your plan on terrorism Biatch? Dumb as a rock. The Queen of Hypocracy is already making an idiot of herself while disgracing our Country. Way to go retards.

Reality , pinch yourself. Y... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Reality , pinch yourself. Your posting in your sleep again.

Rob:"Wow. That's r... (Below threshold)
RhetorRick:

Rob:

"Wow. That's really Obnoxious. Humility is far more attractive than arrogance."

Democrats hate A... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:


Democrats hate America because they are nothing but fiends pimping our Country for their crack. Their crack is power which is they can never win by honest elections. They get by lying and deceiving the people with their Democrat Media and despicably with the aid and comfort they gave to terrorists and our enemies. They are still waiting at the table for their spoils for helping the Traitorcrats win their unmerrited majority. I hope they take their heads.Win win situation for all especially our Country.

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Rob LA Ca.:

Wow! Rick like, you really know how to spell the words, but do you even have a clue what they mean? Like, do you? Remember the last 6 years of crying? If ya say no it's because you haven't stopped lying. It's ok , we wouldn't expect any less from the party of perpetual fraud.

Democrats regained the m... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

Democrats regained the majority through lies , smears and false accusations repeated 24/7 for 6 straight years by their democrat propagandist Media.

Huh? First of all, the most popular news program nationally is Fox News - the polar opposite of "democratic propagandist" media. The Republicans have had the floor for the past 10 years - and in the past 6 all you've seen of Democrats on ANY of the daily news is a quick sound bite - while the Republicans get most of the face time (Sunday morning talk has been almost exclusively the following structure at the round tables - 2-3 conservatives, 1 liberal).

Smears and lies? Joe Wilson, WMD's in Iraq, Tax cuts benefitting the middle class, Foley not on leaders "radar", etc. Take your pick from your side. THAT is why everyone is fed up with you people.

People like you, Rob, live in bubble where you've been able to spout your nastiness without much talkback. What you see on this post is what idiots like you should be getting "24/7" to remind you that your opinions are a small minority of this country and justifiably so.

But, hey, as usual you'll just have a few weak expletives in response to my posting here and you'll continue to live in denial that the mindset of this country has outgrown you.

...we wouldn't expect any less from the party of perpetual fraud.

We wouldn't expect less from a repetitive, mindless drone like yourself. Go back under your rock, loser.

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RhetorRick:

Rob:

I apologize; I should have said, "according to Wizbang, 'Wow. That's really Obnoxious. Humility is far more attractive than arrogance.'"

Please accept my apology.

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madmatt:

So far she hasn't told anybody to "f*** off" on the house floor like cheney or completely refused to respond to a request (like minority rights)ala Hastert!

Rob, I have to question you... (Below threshold)
WJM:

Rob, I have to question your sanity, at this point. Where do you get yor news from, anyway? You are a seriously angry person. Why is that? So you're a democrat, eh? I find that REALLY hard to believe. Usually when peole start off an argument that way, they have NEVER been a democrat.

How could ANYONE look at W and think anything but "What a freaking disaster"? This man is the worst president this country has ever seen, bar none. We haven't seen this much secrecy, dishonesty, lack of CARING what the American people think or want, or lack of accountability in out entire history. This man has decided that he is above the law, he is not accountable to the American people, to the constitution, or even to our way of life, whatever that is, now adays.

I would really like to know why it is that you blame the dems for this. It's been the republicans in office and in power for 12 years in congress and 6 years for everything that have done this to the country, and you want to blame those who haven't had enough power to even hold hearings without harrassment. You must be slightly psychotic, because what you are saying just doesn't make any sense.

Please tell me WHY you are so pissed, and why you think that the repubs, especially with the last 12 years of examples, are any better. They have proven that they don't CARE what you think, or anyone else for that matter. What makes you think they will do anything any differently than how they have been? Really, the way you talk I wonder how long it is before the guys with the little white coats come along...

I'm not trying to be insulting, I really want to know your thought process here. What leads you to yor conclusions? Oh, and as we say over at Raw Story, try not polluting your mind with Faux News, they are lying to you.

Eat shit & die, Repugs!... (Below threshold)
HappyDem:

Eat shit & die, Repugs!

'a few brave left-leaning p... (Below threshold)
LJD:

'a few brave left-leaning posters (Lee, Hugh, etc.).'

Bwahhh Haa haah ahh aaah haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Wow. You leftards are something. You talk of name-calling, but it seems the majority is from you little nasty SOBs.

Killing the Speaker? Who said that terrible thing? Not so big on the reading comprehension, eh? That's the result of your touchy-feely education system. No wonder this country is illiterate.

All I can say is congratulations! Reap what you have sown. Reap it! You will do more damage to yourselves by your own words than any opposition could ever do. Enjoy your 15 minutes.

P.S. I don't give a crap what Canada thinks of our politics. Fortunately you can't vote here. But, you are welcome to accept imports of any like-minded individuals from here.

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Devil's Advocate:

"I would really like to know why it is that you blame the dems for this. It's been the republicans in office and in power for 12 years in congress and 6 years for everything that have done this to the country, and you want to blame those who haven't had enough power to even hold hearings without harrassment."

Don't expect a rational explanation. There is none. The rightnutters hate Democrats, liberals, centrists, and generally anyone who does not subscribe to their fascist view of the world. They are now sputtering with impotent rage because a majority of Americans have decided that they actually like democracy and have thrown the extremists GOPers out.

Make no mistakes. These people abhorr democracy. They are authoritarians of the worst sort.

She's not drunk on power al... (Below threshold)
moseby:

She's not drunk on power alone. She's a boozer bigtime. Just look at that scraggly vodka-ravaged face. I'll bet she has blown Emerson Boozer too.

I think you're a coward. I ... (Below threshold)
alzuben:

I think you're a coward. I suggest you wait and see how she actually performs on the job before you begin criticizing her.

Hmmmmm...what about that se... (Below threshold)
Frank E:

Hmmmmm...what about that secret 20 million dollar "Iraq Victory" stash.

The 20 million that was secertly removed from the monies allocated to provide body armor and support services for our men and women in harms way in the middle east.

Think that money will ever see the light of day again?

Odds are it's in some GOP bank account collecting oodles of interest as a secret reward for your miserable and failed neocon ideology.

Quite harping on being tossed out of congress already, it's over, you're team of liars, pedophiles and thieves lost specifically because Americans saw through the GOP posturing for what it truly has become, the Guardians Of Privilege, willing to figuratively and literally sacrifice everyone who disagrees with their holier than thou ideology.

Your moaning and wailing is very revealing. Apparently you people have no confidence in fairness or our 200+ year old system of checks and balances.

Now that your collective fingers have been removed from the "right" side of scales of justice by the majority of American voters, you suddenly feel the need to blather on about fairness and virtue incessantly.

Keep on whining and pointing your fingers at anyone but yourselves, it serves America well to see clearly how petty and divisive Republicans have become.

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jules:

You're just mad because you and your cokehead alcoholic President are out of favor.

A politician who's excited ... (Below threshold)
Tony T:

A politician who's excited to be in office? How shocking!

Why is it that Republicans these days seemed so shocked at what the constitution says, and by how our democracy works?

anyone who is the first of ... (Below threshold)

anyone who is the first of anything in 200 years has the right to gloat a little... I'm sure she doesn't plan to maintain the high-fiving throughout her term... give her a break... she actually has a pretty ambitious agenda of ACTION planned, which will be a nice change from the previous Congress...

For the past 12 years the A... (Below threshold)
rhon:

For the past 12 years the American people have been lied to, hoodwinked and bamboozled by what
is called the Republican party and the cabal of Bush, Cheney, et al.
These folks had a plan and they put it into action as soon as they took over the government. You, their supporters took 12 years to wake up and smell the coffee. Once you realized that it was not only the progressives, dems and independents who were getting screwed, most of you voted the folks out of office.

The same arrogant assholes who gave us Nixon and Watergate, Reagan and Iran/Contra and Gulf War 1/Bush 1 are now trying to reprise their tired act with the debacle in Iraq.

Pelosi is being nicer to you than I would be or currently are. To be exact, Bush&Co are sweating bullets and they know why. You, their supporters, on the other hand seem to clueless as to why they should be tried for treason, war crimes, profiteering, lying, etc. I would run out of space if I tried to list the crimes committed against the American people, not to mention the international crimes committed by these folks. You all, neeed to get a grip and come in from the cold. We have serious problems in our house and the problem makers have some idiots stil supporting them. I say this to all of you Bush&Co supporters....you say that you support the war and the troops.Well folks, it is time for you to walk the walk...your talk the talk days are over. Your so-called commander/decider wants a troop surge in Iraq...this is a very good opportunity for you chicken shit, chicken awk bastards to sign up, enmasse, and relieve some is not all of the troops in Iraq. Let them come home to their country, jobs, families and friends.
Alas, the last statement is too much to hope or pray for...the mantra of the Bush$ Co supporters is one of as long as I don't have to go, I will support the troops(one reason you got thumped in November)
America has said that if you can't join and fight, what right do you have sending our military, our sons, daughters, husbands and wives into a war of choice, especially when the majority of prominent republicans have never server in the military - active duty, reserve or National Guard.
I am a Vietnam vet who volunteered, served six years of active duty, African American who loves his country...you shitheads are a disgrace to the men and women who have fought and died to defend freedom and democracy.
So, fuck you all and three cheers for Speaker Pelosi and I encourage her to continue to flex her muscles and stay drunk with power....hangovers come with a smile and unspoken,"Kiss my ass" to the Republicans.

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MsThing:

LOL - The GOP (greedy old poops) lost in November because of the most arrogant, egregious abuse of power in U.S. history...and now their knickers are in a knot because Nancy Pelosi wants to celebrate the new breeze blowing through Washington.

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WJM:

The 'liberal' education system, LJD? You mean the one that was put in place by William Bennet during Reagan's years? THAT liberal education system? The one that stopped teaching kids how their government works, and even how to read effectively? The one that gave us "No child's behind left"? THAT liberal education system?

People raised in the Reagan era and since then have been screwed. I got one of the last decent public educations in this country, having graduated high school in 1976, back when it really WAS a liberal education system. Since then, there has been a serious lack of ability to think for oneself, especially from those on the right. I don't hear any of you thinking at all, just parroting the right's "talking points". THAT is not what I would call critical thinking.

So WE are bad mouthing YOU guys? Oh, really? I would consider the CONSTANT crap coming from Cheney during the elections was anything but courteous. Ann Coulter is a paragon of sweetness? Or Michle Malkin? Or Bill O'Reilly? Or Limbaugh? Get real. You people have been the most mean, rude, discourteous people I've ever seen. You had control of everything, screwed it up massively, and showed yourselves to be the pooreest winners the country has ever seen. You are mean, nasty, and childish, and that is just your LEADERS. Don't be surprised when what you reap comes back to slap you right in the face at harvest time.

Isn't this a case of sour g... (Below threshold)
Shingo:

Isn't this a case of sour grapes? Has everyone, including Andrea Mitchell, forgotten how much the Decider spent on his last inauguration, while offering the victims of the Tsunami a paltry 15 million in aid?

Drunk with power? Anyone remember Bush saying that as the Commander in Chief, he didn't see why he should explain himself to anyone?


"Foley not on leaders "rada... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"Foley not on leaders "radar"? This was a shameless stunt by that "fucken-idiot" (which he calls everybody even Clinton) R Emannuel. Then drug out for two weeks. So what happened to this story? Nothing , no crime,nothing.

"Eat shit & die, Repugs!"

This says it all about you hate filled assholes.You are not Americans ,You are democrats.Your moaning and wailing for that last 6 yearis what you would like to erase from your memory. Now all you bed wetters can do is accuse Republicans of doing the very thing democrats had been doing for the last six years. And you still cannot stop telling lies.

"haven't had enough power" That's all the criminal dems care about. This didn't stop William Jefferson from taking $100,000.00 bribe and being caught with $90,000.00 in his freezer did it.

Rhon , Fuck you you lying POS. Democrats are the party felons and criminal frauds and Pelosi got busted trying to give these criminals prominant posts.

You are a bunch of infantile assholes and lying losers. None of your pathetic lies is going pollish your criminal turds. You idiots think you can Clintonize the Republicans , what a joke. Face it, the democrats are criminal frauds. That is why Fraud Kerry and Pig Rodham cried that 85% of felons vote democrat and should have been able to vote.

Rhon you are a disgrace to this Country and a punk ass liar trying to "Racebait" like only your racist party does. One more thing stupid, I not a Republican, I'm an American you punck ass bitch.Your kind will always be losers, deal with it.

"You are not Americans ,You... (Below threshold)
RhetorRick:

"You are not Americans ,You are democrats."

Rob, didn't you say YOU are a democrat?

"Get over it you stupid dum... (Below threshold)
Cousin Dave:

"Get over it you stupid dumb fuck Republithugs."

"You cheated in 00 and 04. now cope with it, we won fair and square."

"You coward. Go to Iraq with your idiot master or STFU you traitor. Un-American bastard."

"Iraq is proof that neo-cons shouldn't be allowed to bear children! Please someone....mass abortions needed!"

"The party of pedophiles, prostitues, and pilfery ..."


"Eat shit & die, Repugs!"

Behold the intellectual power of liberalism.

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Rob LA Ca.:

"talking points"

Idiot , that is a democrat trademark . Just like they have to have seminars on how to relate to our Military and religious voters. That is fruad.

"new breeze blowing through Washington."

It's the same old stench coming from the same old dirty democrats home of sheets Bird , Drunk Driving intern killing Kennedy, Draft dodging rapist Clinton and his beast failed hilarycare and pedophile gerry studs and male whore house Barney Franks and the rest of the Anti-American shit bags. This is your democrat party that you schmucks are proud of? You are forever losers by choice. No question about it.

Rhon you are a disgrace to ... (Below threshold)
rhon:

Rhon you are a disgrace to this Country and a punk ass liar trying to "Racebait" like only your racist party does. One more thing stupid, I not a Republican, I'm an American you punck ass bitch.Your kind will always be losers, deal with it.

Posted by: Rob LA Ca. at January 5, 2007 11:33 AM
You are one scroungy motherfucker. I don't have to lie or race bait. Listen bitch, there are reams of documentation supporting everything that I have said....to bad reading and studying is not one of your strong points.
I live in San Francisco and I am an American...as I said a Nam Vet! If you want to question my veracity I suggest you come visit and we will see who the punk ass bitch is...I will even meet your ass at the airport!
So you are an American and a Bush supporter, BFD! So am I American, however I do not support liars mass murderers and pediphiles so fuck off and keep in mind the invitation stands, BITCH!

Rob LA Ca. at January 5, 20... (Below threshold)
rhon:

Rob LA Ca. at January 5, 2007 11:51 AM

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One other thing, I do believe that you have me and the Democrats confused. Katrina is a fine example of your troll like blind and ignorant obedience to a lost cause. BTW...denial is not a river in Egypt!
You really need to get out more and stop drinking the Republican party. Also, what,where and when did you serve asshole.

Whether you are a Dem, Republican, Indy or Libaterian, Fuck you in your mouth and ass andany of your other orifices.
True, I am black, but not a race baiter, but someone with something to say. I what i say is so distasteful to you, you can always try to do something about it. I serverd and I am not happy with the way the Republicans have damaged our military and reputation around the world! I do think that you are the disgrace and that you protest too much... eat shit and die asshole!

Oh, Rob, you are so easy. T... (Below threshold)
WJM:

Oh, Rob, you are so easy. Talking points belongs to us, eh? Then why does O'reilly have a whole segment of HIS show where he gives out the day's talking points to the faithful. And, oddly enough, it's called "Talking Points Memo". And do you HONESTLY think that your side doesn't do seminars on how to get votes from various groups? Oh, that's right, they just have Rove talk to the guys at Diebold to steal the election. They don't care about votes. Whose call of fraud has more validity?

Now, lets' talk about the honorable members of YOUR party, shall we? How about Duke Cunningham, currently serving 8 years for bribery? Or Tom Delay, who is currently under indictment for breaking the ONE Texas campaign finance law? Or Scooter Libby? Or child molester Folley? Or Hastert, who has an investigation for land deals in place against him? Or Bill Frist, Mr Medical Ethics himself? Come on, Rob, get real. I can keep going if you'd like. There is absolutely no shortage of ethical wrong doing on YOUR side as well. And this is the party that YOU'RE proud of? WHY?

Take the plank out of your own eye before you worry about the spec in someone else's. You want a clean party in politics? Try making it YOUR PARTY before you insist that someone else's live up to your expectations. In fact, I will bet you don't live up to your own expectations for how others should live, either, do you? Your posts say that you are one angry person, and it's really difficult to be virtuous when you're angry. No one is going to live up to your expectations, even you won't. Get over it.

Did I Rick? You are sup... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Did I Rick? You are supposed be the enlightened ones. Must everything be explained to you? You never seam to ask for the facts when you repeat Democrat talking points which are nothing but lies and fraud.

There is the difference between Democrats and True Americans that you will never be taught or told by the party of fraud. What does "registered Democratic" mean to you? Doesn't mean shit to me.You may have been brought up a democrat. I have alway been first and foremost an AMERICAN never a democrat. That is why after blindy voting for them for so long I can tell them without hesitation to fuck themselves. I now know exactly what they are about and all I did was pay attention. You guys have been endoctrinated and don't even know it or are too stupid or ashamed to admit it. Not me , I know I fucken voted ignorantly for them however this despicable party of frauds are nothing at all like the party of Zell Miller. I have no problem admitting being politically ignorant. I now know exactly who I am voting for and why. You people vote the way you do out of hate and it shows.

Looks like Rob LA Ca. has e... (Below threshold)
Devil's Advocate:

Looks like Rob LA Ca. has escaped from the psycho ward again...

There is the difference bet... (Below threshold)
rhon:

There is the difference between Democrats and True Americans that you will never be taught or told by the party of fraud.

Rob, here are some questions for you to answer:
1. What party brought us Social Security, unions, the 40 hour work week, employer paid health care, affordable education for the masses, to name a few?

2. What party has tried to destroy social security, has engaged in Union busting, is responsible for holding down wages by employing illegals, what party has sacntioned corporations sending their earnings offshore and not pay taxes, what party has at least 25 of their members being investigated or convicted of fraud, bribery or pedophilia, what party rigged the last(04) election, what party, screamed about states rights and then went to the supreme court to get their guy appointed(not elected) president?
Rob, if you still want to attack the Dems, I have but one more thing to say to your backward, retarded, scum sucking coward ass...."People who live in glass house should not throw stones and you are throwing boulders, BITCH!
Alos, when and where did your ALL-AMERICAN ass serve?

You guys have been endoc... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

You guys have been endoctrinated and don't even know it or are too stupid or ashamed to admit it. Not me , I know I fucken voted ignorantly for them however this despicable party of frauds are nothing at all like the party of Zell Miller. I have alway been first and foremost an AMERICAN never a democrat. That is why after blindy voting for them for so long I can tell them without hesitation to fuck themselves.

To the new, this guy has been spitting out his ignorant hatred on this blog for a long time now. He's a joke. What's worse, is he believes all this tripe.

Scream and yell, Rob. Go ahead, pussy boy. Your opinion is part of a small, insignificant minority now. Most of the country has wisened up to the moral and ethical corruption and lies of this administration and republican seniority. You, of course, are too ignorant to know how truly ignorant you are.

La-whoo-zee-her.

All you whining Rethugs can... (Below threshold)
Harriett:

All you whining Rethugs can sure dish it out, but you can't take it, can you? Pelosi RULES!!! My friends and I ALL had a celebration of our own. Keep on whining 'cause THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING! Dems will take back the country, which has been destroyed by Rethug greed and corruption. Wait 'til '08, when even more Dems are elected, 'cause Rethugs do not know anything but spin and feigned outrage. Americans are disgusted with these tactics, and will not listen anymore. Go whine in a corner by yourself!

And the idiot in the White ... (Below threshold)
USMC6002:

And the idiot in the White House is not?

I'm sorry, Rob, I am just t... (Below threshold)
RhetorRick:

I'm sorry, Rob, I am just trying to keep up. You say you "have alway been first and foremost an AMERICAN never a democrat." OK. I get that. But then you say "What does "registered Democratic" mean to you?" which is what you said you were, or had been for 20 years, in an earlier post. So you are registered Democratic, but not a democrat (but you are American), which is different from registered Democratic, and which is how you used to vote until you got disgusted with "them" - is that right?

Thank you for your patience.

Wjm, Stupid, until you pro... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Wjm, Stupid, until you prove otherwise. Oreily is not a Republican


"Or Tom Delay, who is currently under indictment for breaking the ONE Texas campaign finance law? "

What law? the one that didn't even exist? ANother Democrat Proceuter like Nifong.

"Or child molester Folley?" Gerry Studs was a child molestor and was reelected again and again. You are a liar , stupid or unwilling to accept the facts that Foley did not molest anyone , no physical contact. What is so difficult to understand? Or is it you are just repeating things you hear and are too lazy to do the research for yourself?

Excuse me , but who is the hypocrit who coined the phrase "cultutre of corruption"?

I'll tell you, the Queen of hypocracy Pelosi herself who was fine $21,000.00 for having .....

"Pelosi operated two PACs: Tean Majority and PAC to the Future."

"According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Team Majority reported 16 contributions of $5,000 each from donors who had already given the maximum to Pelosi's other PAC. Five of the donors gave to both PACs on the same day.

Rather the refer the case to the Justice Department for prosecution, however, the FEC allowed Pelosi's two committees to negotiate "conciliation agreements" under which they were fined a total of $21,000."

How cute...."PAC to the future"

Delay has not been convicted of anything because he has not done anything , nor has Rove , Cheney, Frist , Plamegate , or foley. You need to get real . All you have is Cunnigham. And guess what he is jail where more than half of the current Democrat party belongs.

You don't even have the guts to admit you are wrong. You are so affraid that that I speak the truth or to even thing about questioning yourself and taking the time to "KNOW" who you are voting for. You would be enraged, if you had the capability to be honest with yourself and sincerely had the desire to know the truth. Is that the case? It is easier to be willfully ignorant rather than knowing you will be enraged for being lied to and believing those lies. You like being cheated on? you would rather not know correct? too much pain , shame , disgust? Or are you just doing the latest hip thing to do like everyone else around you.

SO GET A FRICKEN GRIP ARE YOU AN AMERICAN OR DEMOCRAT?


Delay has not been convi... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

Delay has not been convicted of anything because he has not done anything , nor has Rove , Cheney, Frist , Plamegate , or foley. You need to get real.

It sure is hard to know everything when your party is protecting you and thwarting investigative committees. No longer.

Mark my words, these scumbags will have their day in court and all the evidence will finally come out -- and ignorant, lock-step pussy-boys like yourself, Rob, will still refuse to believe what's right in front of your eyes. You're right. You're not a democrat. We wouldn't want someone with the mind of a 2-year-old who's so willfully ignorant and full of fear and hatred he's ready to drop a load in your pants at any minute.

And I'm sure the true conservatives want nothing to do with you as well. You are a flatulant, raving fool. The perfect moron. Go have sex with your George Bush blow up doll, idiot.

SO GET A FRICKEN GRIP ARE Y... (Below threshold)
rhon:

SO GET A FRICKEN GRIP ARE YOU AN AMERICAN OR DEMOCRAT?
Posted by: Rob LA Ca. at January

I am both. And you! see in my world, Dems are republicans. Zell Miller is a dixiecrat of the first order....a racist with no soul and fuck you if you have a peroblem with this. I saw his performance at the rethug convetion....he fit right in so don't tell me about the Zell Miller or try to make him something that he is not. He is what he is and too old and crotchty to change!

Also, I would like for you to answer my questions, if you can. Also, are you interested in taking me up on my invitation to visit? And last but not least....when and where did you say you served?

Too bad , I was just in li... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Too bad , I was just in livermore , stockon and hayward this month. I believe you are black, nothing wrong with that. If you truely are a vet I appolgize and I thank you for your service however.... (notice I did not use the word "BUT") Democrats are boldfaced liars and you exibit blind faith in them and extreme hate for those not Democrats.

Nothing good would come from our meeting for the simple fact that I'm no punk ass coward or in your words "coward ass".

for those of you I calll stupid , it's because you choose to be stupid , act stupid or willfulluy ignorant. And pipe you two little brats , you know who are. sheesh!

Let me ask you Rhon , what makes so sure that everything you say is the truth ,factually based or not. Why are you so sure. I can see how easily you have been fooled . Nobody is attacking SS , explain why Harry Reid was talking about Private accounts around 9 months before Bush mentioned them? Unions have served their purpose and are now doing more harm than good having been taken over by partisan politics. Or do you get giddy over many Republican employees having to pay union dues to democrats who in turn spend millions to defeat there candidates. Do you even have a cclue that corporation by far donate more to the left that the right ? And these are the to 50 corporations.

I got an easy one for ya. Who is the master shakedown artist useing race to funnel millions into his Rainbow Foundation , ooops just gave it away. You cannot be this stupid unless you are totally blinded by hate. Prove me wrong

Aw shucks! Did Nancy step ... (Below threshold)
Charles:

Aw shucks! Did Nancy step on your little machismo toes. Real men take their beatings in stride, whimps whine.

We can sit here and "fuck... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

We can sit here and "fuck you" each other all day . I'm badder that you , that's lame and you know it. I mentioned Zell Miller because of what he said about what his party has become and that's about the point I started paying attention to politics.Political Correctness is Bullshit. A sick tool used by politicians to drive wedges into everything and everyone.And I never said I did serve , you know like Clinton however I know how to inhale.There was no draft in my days and I was too caught up in the Rat race known as living in LA .

How can you be both ?You can't be both and "your world" isn't just your world it's our world. If your stuck in some time warp like that of Cynthia McKinney or Danny glover who I had great respect for until he backed her without knowing the facts as he admitted , that's fucked up. If you were born here in the United States you are an American, not African / American , not Democrat / Republican just plain fucken American, you dig?

Oh and one last thing , the very reason I woke up to politics was due to hearing that Fraud Kerry Disrespecting the President of the United States. How the hell can you not be as enraged as I when he was calling YOU! a baby killer , rapist and war criminal? Man this I got hear.

This is quite an amusing si... (Below threshold)
Judith:

This is quite an amusing site. After 12 years of the dems whining and crying about their fall from power (they stole the election, the voters are stupid, etc. ect. etc.) it is fun to hear their "macho" strutting and crowing. Only thing is, like the scorpion and the frog story, they can't help WHAT they are and I am sure the voters will also see them for WHAT they are.

...the very reason ... (Below threshold)
stevenrobb:

...the very reason I woke up to politics was due to hearing that Fraud Kerry Disrespecting the President of the United States.

Which President was this, Rob LA? Are you talking about Nixon - or our current so-called President? Either way, it doesn't sound very credible that you were a "registered Democrat" and, somehow, an act of free speech turned your against the democratic party. Do you have any understanding of that given right? Obviously not. It's what makes this country great - and all you seem to show in your postings is an intolerance of it - and a rabid adherence to the propaganda of the right wing.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of what you say here, but I would fight for your right to say it. That is what it means to be a free-thinking American.

...and, furthermore, you've... (Below threshold)
stevenrobb:

...and, furthermore, you've obviously been listening to Limbaugh for too long. Kerry never called anyone a "baby killer." In fact, here's his actual speech from 1971:

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

As has been confirmed, he was describing what others had told him while he was in country.

The quote you're referring to was actually attributed to him falsely in the book "Unfit for Command". Here is the actual reference from the book:

"I will tell you in all candor that the only baby killer I knew in Vietnam was John F. Kerry." This was quoted by William Franke.

Facts are facts, Rob LA. But don't let that stop you from believing your right wing propaganda. You need only stick your head in the sand.

I got an easy one for ya. W... (Below threshold)
rhon:

I got an easy one for ya. Who is the master shakedown artist useing race to funnel millions into his Rainbow Foundation , ooops just gave it away. You cannot be this stupid unless you are totally blinded by hate. Prove me wrong

Posted by: Rob LA Ca. at January 5, 2007 01:41 PM

Rob, Let me clear up a couple of things ....first, yes I am definitely black and I am a Vietnam Vet(got my DD214 to prove it). Second, you call me a lying POS and say that I am a disgrace to America. Then you respond by thanking you for my service.

I am putting all of this in context...FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE, I AM NOT READY TO MAKE NICE! I SERVED SO IDIOTS LIKE YOU CAN POST THE SHIT THAT YOU POST. When I stated that I am African American, you accused me of race baiting...like I said, if you think that I am such a disgrace and a lying POS, come tell me face to face....mano y mano! I do believe that you will leave with a totally new understanding along with an ass whipping.

I do not know where you get you info, but you stop listening and or watching Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity and Combs, Savage, Kristol, Bush, Cheney and the list goes on...I think that the only to put on a uniform, in that group, was Bush and he did repesent well...


Something tells me that the only time you are in a military uniform is when you go to a costume ball! I don't need your thanks, I did what REAL AMERICANS DID/DO, BITCH.

As for your dig at Jesse Jackson, who was it that swindled 20,000+ Americans out of their life's savings and pentions and since Reagan, have been on a sustained march to detroy the unions and the middle class of America ? To what party do most of the CEO's belong. These are the same folks with so-called Christian values, who have, consistently failed to keep the pentions solvent....instead they gave the money to the stock holders and their cronies or put in in their pockets

So Mr. All American, I sent you a couple of questions to answer, so far no reply! What's up with that?

As far your questions go, I have very reliable sources and if you spent time doing your research you wouldn't look like such an idiot. The newspapers, talks shows and newshours are full of the Republican shenanighans and you still rant and rave as to their greatness and how slimy the Democrats are.

BTW...there is no difference between Democrats and true Americans. From what I have seen and read, Democrats readily join the military and are always willing to protect our country. Not so for the Republicans. 90% of the Republican Congress has not served and have been very busy trying to shortchange the troops - cuts to the VA, no body armour, allowing Halliburton to ravage our treasury while serving contaminated water to our troops.

For the past 12 years the Republican agenda has been made quite clear to most Americans. These folks took an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies within and without. I have seen the enemy and they were in Washinton. Instead of going home they need to go to prison. I see that you are still sleep walking!

Republicans have convinced you that unions are not necessary. Why don't you pick up a copy of "The People's History of the U.S. - 1492 to present", written by Howard Zinn

Dude, I have been watching these guys for quite sometime and I can think of more henious or evil that America has had to suffer through, than the results of the Iran-Contra Affair....results of which have had a direct and negative effect on all of us peons! This was done to America while the military and government officials made a killing.(do your research). I can say this, you really need to stop playing the ostrich and take a real good look at your environment....and for God's sake question authority at every turn. You will be very surprised at what you will learn.

How you convince yourself that the Dems are who you think they are is beyond me. I sure am glad that most Americans see things very, very differently. The last election was the Voice of America speaking...not just Dems, but Repubs, Libs, Greens and Indy's.

These folks have been engaginging in class warfare since new deal. It only took them 40 fucking years to get into power and 12 years to lose their power and if the Democrats do what the people want, I will never see another Republican majority in my lifetime.

Btw...since 1950, we have had 9 recessions...8 have been with Republican presidents and one was with Jimmy Carter and it was the shortest and least damaging of all...look it up!

So, I don't expect you to answer my questions, but keep this in mind, you true American, I believe that every American male should do some military time...maybe, just maybe such a move would make our elected officials think and debate before deciding on a war of choice. This is the first and hopefully the last such incident. And I still say Bush& Co are war criminals and international terrorists. These are the folks that we should worry about.

Man, I haven't seen this an... (Below threshold)
WJM:

Man, I haven't seen this angry of a rightie in a long time. Making you just crazy having to defend these guys, isn't it? It would me.

So let me get this right: You were a long time democrat, but you didn't wake up to politics until two years ago? Hmmmmm... why does that sound fishy to me? But no matter.

Like I said, I was just getting started. Shall we talk about Abramoff? He's in jail, and singing like a canary. We will see just how far the net goes before it's all over. But as to who is worse, I ask you, what is worse, lying about a blow job, or lying about why you want to start a war against a country that has NEVER attacked you? I would consider one to be a minor transgression and one to be a high crime. Can you guess which is which? Here is a hint: One choice involves something that isn't our business, the other has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.

You want to blame the dems for your party not being able to make the voters switch elected officials if one was a child molestor? Weak. If you guys had one running that we knew about, you can bet that would be first in the list of things we brought up. Don't blame us for your side's inability to do their job at election time. Maybe if they weren't so busy trying to steal elections and lying about everything, they would see a golden opportunity when it slapped them in the face. If this was so well known, WHY DIDN'T they use it?

Like I said, if you had bothered to read it instead of just formulating insults to heave in my direction, is that if you were so damned concerned about ethics in gov't then you would see it for what it is. BOTH sides having their issues, and BOTH sides needing reform. It's not either or, and if you insist on calling me names, I will level a barage at you that will make your head spin. And those who know me know I can make a sailor blush. You are clearly a one trick pony, and I've dealt with that trick for over 25 years, now. It was stupid then, and it's no smarter now.

If you think that you are getting the straight story from honorable people in the republican party, then I have to point at you and laugh hysterically. You have so much wool over your eyes they are starting to BAAAAH. I used to respect republicans, then Eisenhower died. Since then, your party has been the most unAmerican thing on the road, and those of us with brains could see it coming as soon as Reagan said "Go for it America".

You really need to deal with some anger issues, and stop watching Faux news. They are perverting you, and you don't even see it. Oh, and are you trying to tell me that O'Reilly is a lefty, now? Yeah, he SAYS he's not a republican, but there isn't a thing the white house wants him to say that he won't. The whole channel is nothing but a white house outlet, there so that W can catapult the propoganda.

Man, I really feel sorry for you. it must really suck to be so eaten up with hatred for over half the people in your own country.

Don't waste your time with ... (Below threshold)
Reality:

Don't waste your time with the likes of Rob, Rhon. His cheeto encrusted self won't be let out of the basement by his mom anytime soon. What a jackass- "thank you for your service" while he spits on soldiers everywhere by supporting this president who is happy to see them rot in Iraq so that the next administration has to deal with it.

The hilarious thing? Rob carries the cons water but none of them would cross the street to kick him. They would take away his welfare check and SSI in a New York minute. And he kisses their ass nonetheless, begging to be let into 'massas quarters.

Stevenrob, ... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Stevenrob,

It was weeks prior to President Bush winning re-election , the day I vote Republican for the first time Nov 2,2004.

Excuse me for a second .... Fuck you too rhon, thank you anyway angry bitch ass.

" an act of free speech turned your against the democratic party."

No, that would be a false statement. This act of free speach made me aware of the existence of John Kerry.That in turn made me want to know just who the hell he is and what party he belonged to. Maybe this will help you understand, I worked at a bank full time for 6 years (bankers Hours) I went to school full time at night and I had the same girlfriend fulltime for all that time and then some. I hated the news and flipped stations during commercials the rare times I watched TV. I played Baseball , Volleyball at school , went racing with my friends at Willow Springs , Dears point , Button Willow , Firebird, Phoenix El Centro and Los Vegas. When we weren't out racing we were out riding our jet ski's at Havasu, Laughlin , Parker , Copper Canyon , Big Bear , Lake Isabela , Rosario , Santa Barbara, Lake Mead , Cabrillo beach, Giligans Island , a friends pool and two trips to Hawaii, Ensenada, Catalina bla bla bla so on and so forth.

I thought Commercials were stupid and a waste of money. If anyone took the pepsi challege claiming to be a die hard Coca Cola drinker like myself and failed , they were lying. People that ran out and bought jordans latest shoe or that latest nike what ever was a mindless drone , followers, phony.

Now given these facts as I recall them to the best of my knowledge , I'll let you reaccess your response of.....

"it doesn't sound very credible that you were a "registered Democrat" and, somehow, an act of free speech turned your against the democratic party"

if so ,I'll take it from there .

I haven't forgot about ya Rhon , no need to come here all trippin up in D*g P%(#h, chill.

I am putting all of this... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

I am putting all of this in context...FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE, I AM NOT READY TO MAKE NICE! I SERVED SO IDIOTS LIKE YOU CAN POST THE SHIT THAT YOU POST. When I stated that I am African American, you accused me of race baiting...like I said, if you think that I am such a disgrace and a lying POS, come tell me face to face....mano y mano! I do believe that you will leave with a totally new understanding along with an ass whipping."

I believe you believe that. I have been fortunate to have never lost a fight and it probably due to the fact that I have never started one. So if your just looking for a dance your shit out of luck. I value my freedom and those who fought for , even your dumbass.

Hold that thought Rhon , just cause I wanted to be ssure exactly what I said to you , I did not accuse you of commiting an act of race baiting I was under the assumption that you made the mention of "your being black" as a way to get me to attack with some racial slur. So of course your not, how should I say , ya the "race card".But more importantly I noticed my ending with "Your kind will always be losers, deal with it".If you want to believe I was directing that comment entirely unto you, your wrong. I'm going to ignore the pesky little Hansel and a couple other instigating knats and address by name like I did stevenrobb cause I can't expect you to read my mind in this cluster fuck of an environment.


But as to who is worse, I ask you, what is worse, lying about a blow job, or lying about why you want to start a war against a country that has NEVER attacked you?

Man , it's not about the Blow Job, it never was. I voted for the dunb hillbilly and I recall being pissed off that this was embarrassing our Country that our President was being questioned by this Star guy. I didn't want watch any pat of it , it just pissed me off however I new he was fucking lying his ass off then and I didn't care. After that that I heard the name Star more than anything like if he was on trial. It wasn't until I put over a thousand plus hours of my onw research all over the Internet that I knew what it was all about.

I didn't know who the hell limbaugh was , Hannity , coulter , oreily were until well after the election was over. I accidently discovered Fox News after midnight Nov,2.2004. I only watched CNN that was it. It was on 24/7 as I worked on computers and while I slept. WHat caught my eye was the sudden jerk of the Camera , it was wolf talking about their elaborate set up to kill some time untill some states started reporting in and that's when I saw in the upper right hand corner BUSH 56 I believe it was 56 or 53 and Kerry 3. Now that I think about it that was the whole intention of Wolf Blistzer dragging the camera off to the left as to not show the early totals and that sudden jerk of just one inch more to the left put the electoral count completely out of sight. This is just the facts as I have seen with my own eyes.

As the foul words of Fraud Kerry caught my attention so did this blatant stalling and camera jerk by cnn cause me to question all the shit they have been spewing in the prior weeks. It then began to become so crystal clear soon after that who was who and what was what. I didn't even like Fox News or watch it until a coulple months after the election was over.

And talk radio? what the fuck was that ? No damn good for my 15 " Dual voice coil Cerwin Vegas 12" Kicker Comp's mids , tweet ya ya ya . So ya , I was an Ignorant pos , need more convincing ? didn't think so. Done for know

I played Baseball ... (Below threshold)
stevenrobb:

I played Baseball , Volleyball at school , went racing with my friends at Willow Springs , Dears point , Button Willow , Firebird, Phoenix El Centro and Los Vegas. When we weren't out racing we were out riding our jet ski's at Havasu, Laughlin , Parker , Copper Canyon , Big Bear , Lake Isabela , Rosario , Santa Barbara, Lake Mead , Cabrillo beach, Giligans Island , a friends pool and two trips to Hawaii, Ensenada, Catalina bla bla bla so on and so forth.

Rob LA -- you're obviously just a kid - and because of that, your youthful ignorance can be, on some small level, somewhat excused.

I was a child of privilege as well (obviously not as much as you. My parents wouldn't finance such lavish trips as you seem to have had on a regular basis), but I never mistook my ignorance for fact. In fact, when I had the chance to go away to school, unlike most of my friends who went to familiar safe havens such as Cornell or Ithaca, I chose to go to Temple University - right smack dab in the middle of North Philadelphia.

And I worked for my keep there as well - even though I didn't need to. And I also discovered what it was like to be a minority in my own community there, even if it was fleeting. Simply put, I have made a point in my life of never assuming I know everything, never shortchanging other people's struggles - and never mistaking arrogance for "strength of mind."

You seem to revel in your ignorance - or maybe you just don't know any better. Could be your parent's fault. And you also take so much for granted that others have to scratch, bite and kill for. Because of this, you really need to study politics a little more and keep an open mind. There are cycles - and histories here - that you, through your postings, show a complete lack of understanding of.

And if you remain as willfully ignorant as you seem to be now - with all you have and all the opportunities you take for granted - you will become the exact thing that people not as privileged have every right to scorn you for - and the kind of person educated, privileged people like myself are embarrassed by, and for good reason.

Stop being stupid.

TO ALL THE PUSSY FAGG COMMI... (Below threshold)
dave:

TO ALL THE PUSSY FAGG COMMIE ANT-AMERICANS SORRY FORGOT TO BE "PC" I MEANT THE LEFT CAN YOU ALL SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TALK ABOUT KILLING BUSH EVERYDAY BUT WHEN SOMEONE JOKES ABOUT SHOOTING PELOSI YOU CRY LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD WHO JUST GOT HIT UP SIDE THE HEAD WITH A BASEBALL BAT.

MY NAME IS DAVE AND I'M A S... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

MY NAME IS DAVE AND I'M A SCARED WIDDLE PUSSY WHO HIDES BEHIND MY CHIMP DADDY GEORGIE. GEORGIE WILL PROTECT ME FROM ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD BECAUSE I'M SO SCARED OF THE TERRORISTS I'D DO ALMOST ANYTHING TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ME! I ALSO JUST PEED IN MY PANTS - AND I LIKE HAVING SEX WITH FARM ANIMALS.

WHat caught my eye was t... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

WHat caught my eye was the sudden jerk of the Camera , it was wolf talking about their elaborate set up to kill some time untill some states started reporting in and that's when I saw in the upper right hand corner BUSH 56 I believe it was 56 or 53 and Kerry 3. Now that I think about it that was the whole intention of Wolf Blistzer dragging the camera off to the left as to not show the early totals

You're even dumber than I first thought, Rob. You thought this was some sort of grand deception? Did you know that early totals, especially early electoral vote totals, are "commonly" varied? Are you really telling everyone here that you were too ignorant to know how elections work, and that some camera spin from one station, apparently the only news station you've ever watched, is indicative of a "democratic coverup"?

You've pretty much exposed yourself for who you are: a spoiled, ignorant little rich boy who believes the prosperity he inherited from his parents gives him a deep insight into the ways of the world and how others should conduct their lives. And you've altogether admitted that you've been politically ignorant most of your life (given the lives that have been lost over the last 200 years so you can have freedom and the right to vote, that kind of ignorance is pathetic).

Go back to your parents posh Irvine estate, throw on MTV and convince yourself your opinion has merit and weight. Enjoy your little bubble. Let real adults who've earned their place in society argue the big issues.

One day in the near future ... (Below threshold)
moseby:

One day in the near future some of the smarter liberal robots will wake up and notice that they are standing shoulder to shoulder with cindy sheehag and fat rosie o among others and think..."How embarrassing is this?"

shehag? Nice way to talk a... (Below threshold)
Reality:

shehag? Nice way to talk about someone who sacrificed her son for this country. I hope no one says the same things about YOUR Mom if you die in combat- oh, right, that couldn't happen because you would NEVER fight in the war you cheered Casey Sheehan to death in. Cobag.

moseby,Just anothe... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

moseby,

Just another weak republican taunt. Don't like Cindy Sheehan? Her son was killed, and she has an opinion about it. So what? Don't like freedom of speech? Are you a communist?

Rosie O'donnell? What's the problem there? You don't like her because she's a lesbian? Fat? Outspoken? What's your point exactly?

I'll tell you what it is. You think you're oh so clever throwing out these names as if they carry some weight. And you think you're making some bigger point by doing it. All you're really doing is showing how mindlessly lock-stepped you are with the other idiot 20% that support the current republican party and how much of a moron you are in believing the propaganda that these two women's opinions are unAmerican (and it also shows some underlying prejudices that you're probably not even aware of).

Personally, anybody can say anything they like in this world. They can have homosexual sex if they want. They can worship the devil. They can be obnoxious in public if they like. They can do whatever their freedom allows them, and I'll support them even if I don't agree with them. When someone like those two women speak their mind, I applaud their efforts - once again, not necessarily because I will agree with them, but it is an expression of their American right.

And I will even support your freedom to show how much of a mindless drone you are. That's what it means to be a real American.

boy, yoo two fags really sh... (Below threshold)
moseby:

boy, yoo two fags really showed me...

next time yoo kiss cindy...be carefully of the rotting-flesh breath. As for hugging rosie...don't let yer hands sink too far into the blubber. heh heh

Pelosi reminds of a saying:... (Below threshold)
tj:

Pelosi reminds of a saying: "it is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"

stevenrobb, " Rob... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

stevenrobb,

" Rob LA -- you're obviously just a kid - and because of that, your youthful ignorance can be, on some small level, somewhat excused.

I was a child of privilege as well (obviously not as much as you. My parents wouldn't finance such lavish trips as you seem to have had on a regular basis)"

I was wrong about you , I thought you were much more intelligent than this.

Does a child of privilege wear "HAND ME DOWNS"? NO

I did. However you wouldn't know that because I never mentioned it.

"lavish trips" Going to Hawaii?

"My parents wouldn't finance such lavish trips as you seem to have had on a regular basis)"

My dad died while I was attending "Community College" and my mother worked for Target. Maybe you carelessly forgot something that I did mention. I worked FULLTIME.

Now I don't know wether or not you will be capable or bothered to rethink what you think my defect is.
"Because of this, you really need to study politics a little more and keep an open mind."

We'll see.

Study Politics? I done one better. Something you can never learn or be taught at Temple University or as you put it being a "child of privilege", I've studied people. All kinds of people from the most hideous drug addicted criminal to the common criminal, gangbangers and their enforcers , I've coached little league a for years and a whole lot more. So don't think I'm arrogant when I say I am a good judge of character. I know a fraud and a liar when I see and hear frauds and liars. That is what I think when I see and hear the Democrats in action with the exception of Lieberman and it has nothing to do with agreeing with President Bush.

May I suggest you study more about Politicians who by the way just happen to be people. I like this description:

"a schemer who tries to gain advantage in an organization in sly or underhanded ways"

"Stop being stupid"

That is a suggestion you should give to Lee ,hansel and friends.


See, Wizbang! You play poss... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

See, Wizbang! You play possum through the Libby Trial, the near-last-stand at Najaf, etc., thinking you'll just SLIDE BY, and then post some partisan fluff for the fluffers when you have to fill space, and WHAM-O! Genghis Khan is screwing your wife! And his Mongols are waiting their turn! EGGZELLENT! P.S. Visitors: Come Again; the posts generally suck, but the regular commenters are HILARIOUSLY STUPID! (I think they're "Grays". From outer space.)

Rhon, "Peoples' History of ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Rhon, "Peoples' History of the U.S." by Zinn: EXCELLENT! Also: "Lies My Teacher Told Me": Must Read!




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