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Handcuffing the police

Well, it's official: Massachusetts State Police will not be allowed to enforce all the laws, only those the Governor sees fit to have them enforce.

The program seemed like a good one: since federal immigration officials are so overworked, why not allow specially-trained police officers, such as state troopers, to enforce the immigration laws as well? Several states are already doing it, and without any problems I've heard about. Massachusetts' former governor, Mitt Romney, bought into the idea and arranged for a group of Mass. Staties to undergo the training.

But the new governor, Deval Patrick, doesn't like the idea. he thinks that the state police should be focusing on enforcing state laws (not including the never-invoked Bartley-Fox gun law, or the one saying that out-of-staters can't get married in Massachusetts if that marriage would be illegal in their own home state), and leave immigration laws up to the federal officials who have done such a bang-up job rounding up illegal aliens (12 million and counting) thus far.

Remember, this is Massachusetts, where the Democrats hold 100% of the power: the governor, both Senate seats, all 10 House seats, ,and over 85% of both houses of the legislature. And to them, if a law is a bad thing, you don't repeal it. You simply ignore it, redefine it to suit your purposes, or insist that it's someone else's responsibility to deal with it.

Actually changing the law is too much work. And if the people themselves try to change the law, then they need to be stopped by any means available.

I am SO glad I now live a good hour or more from the Massholes. But I figure that sooner or later the Vermonsters will start getting on my nerves, too...


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Why didn't the Republicans ... (Below threshold)
Blue Neponset:

Why didn't the Republicans do something about the overworked Federal immigration officials when they controlled Congress and the White House for the better part of six years? If they had maybe Massachusetts wouldn't have to spend money to do the Fedearl Government's jobs for them.

Massholes deserve every bit... (Below threshold)
Bob Jones:

Massholes deserve every bit of government that Deval Patrick, Teddy Kennedy D-Chivas, and John F'ing Kerry can hand down to them. I love it! I just wish more socialist libs moved there to suck off the Taxachusetts Nanny Tit.

I can't wait till they start to tax wealth. Wait, it won't affect Teddy and Johnny as most of their unearned "wealth" is out of reach of their tax man.

Fricking hypocrites.

Yep, welcome to what the U.... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Yep, welcome to what the U.S.A. would be like if the dems took over complete control.

Wonder what would happen if... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Wonder what would happen if the gov's child or a family member would be killed by an illegal?

As for Kennedy, guess only the good die young!

"And to them, if a law is a... (Below threshold)
Robert:

"And to them, if a law is a bad thing, you don't repeal it. You simply ignore it, redefine it to suit your purposes, or insist that it's someone else's responsibility to deal with it."

The govenor should use a signing statement, much cleaner!

I find the comment about ig... (Below threshold)
blackcat77:

I find the comment about ignoring the laws that an executive doesn't like to be the height of irony.

Under which concept of fede... (Below threshold)

Under which concept of federalism should state constables be charged with enforcing federal civil statutes?

Is it just that there are no violations of Massachusetts laws to speak of, and these troopers are normally just milling about, holding up the walls, reading newspapers, and generally wasting time until their shifts end?

California and New York are... (Below threshold)
Paper Tigers:

California and New York are just "wannabe's"
compared to Massachusetts liberals.
Wait for them to follow suit.
Once it takes hold, disarming the population will naturally follow.

Massachusetts should be tra... (Below threshold)
Revolutioner:

Massachusetts should be traded to Canada for some large piece of ice up north... I mean the state is the biggest embarrassment to America.

I don't want to ban any of ... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

I don't want to ban any of our pitiful trolls, but I would support legislation requiring them to live in Massachusetts. Seems like a fitting punishment for being so moronic.

My husbands a cop here in B... (Below threshold)
kylie:

My husbands a cop here in Boston and they're celebrating today!!!! The police did NOT want approve and lobbied against Romney and his nutjob legislation. Thank you very much Mr Patrick, law enforcement here in Mass has more than enough to do with out arresting illegals. Law enforcement is very of Deval Patrick.!!

Theres a Dunkin Donuts in S... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Theres a Dunkin Donuts in Seekonk that is much safer today.

Guess the MAss cops would rather pick n choose what laws they want to enforce, kinda like the Big Dig scrubs pick and choose which 1 day of the week they actually work.

Cant wait to hear the lib outrage when one of their own get slaughtered. Maybe then they'll get it. Ask the family of the soldier from MD, who died because of an illegal, what they think about enforcement.

"MassHoles"? "Libnuts"? "T... (Below threshold)
ImmovableMover:

"MassHoles"? "Libnuts"? "Trolls"? Same old childish name calling I usually expect from the left.

I'm a conservative from West Texas now living in Boston, and I never supported Mitt's proposal. It's not as simple as you all are making it out to be (again, something I expect from my far left neighbors). For a start, a lot of money would be spent training only a handful of troopers to enforce the immigration laws.

It's a great "feel good" proposition that ultimately sacrifices the protection of our citizens from other serious crimes. No doubt illegals would be captured and deported. But we will never know how many other violent criminals got away while the officers were in training, or focusing on new responsibilities, etc.

Blue Neponset is on the right track: "Why didn't the Republicans do something about the overworked Federal immigration officials when they controlled Congress and the White House for the better part of six years?"

ImmovableMover,<block... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

ImmovableMover,

It's a great "feel good" proposition that ultimately sacrifices the protection of our citizens from other serious crimes. No doubt illegals would be captured and deported. But we will never know how many other violent criminals got away while the officers were in training, or focusing on new responsibilities, etc.

People generally make the same argument about traffic enforcement, usually just after they have been ticketed. Ask police how many times they have heard someone say "why don't you go and catch real criminals instead of harassing law abiding citizens." If that's not a valid argument for stopping traffic enforcement then it's not a valid argument for stopping immigration enforcement either.

"Why didn't the Republicans do something about the overworked Federal immigration officials when they controlled Congress and the White House for the better part of six years?"

Because there's no political support for enforcing the immigration laws on a mass scale. It's nice to have the laws on the books for particular egregious cases, but when federal immigration laws are enforced on a large scale away from our southern border, there's a public outcry from the left and lobbing by business groups on the right to stop it. Nothing that works will be tolerated by influential segments of either the left or the right.

Thank you, Mac Lorry. I do... (Below threshold)
ImmovableMover:

Thank you, Mac Lorry. I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have said. I must confess that I do believe most speed limits are unconstitutional (even though I abide by them always- I have never received a ticket).

I don't agree with Patrick as to why he is backing out, nor do I agree with how Romney handled the agreement. I would truly welcome a comprehensive plan that would allow us to effectively deal with illegals (though I am sure Patrick would oppose such a measure as well). I simply don't think that the current agreement is good one.

People generally m... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:
People generally make the same argument about traffic enforcement, usually just after they have been ticketed. Ask police how many times they have heard someone say "why don't you go and catch real criminals instead of harassing law abiding citizens." If that's not a valid argument for stopping traffic enforcement then it's not a valid argument for stopping immigration enforcement either.

Nice try, but illegal aliens are real criminals - in a way that citizens who violate chickenshit traffic laws manifestly are not. A useful clue here might be the fact that the Federal Government hasn't enacted a whole lot of wee little traffic laws, but controlling immigration is (or should be) a priority.

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Patrick's statement...let t... (Below threshold)
Judith:

Patrick's statement...let the fed's enforce illegal immigration...reeks of the new orleans...let the fed's save our people, that's not our job. The more I see of what the dem's think is "their" job, the move I want to vomit. When dem's "rule", citizens die...but of course, that would be the fed's job.

All that proposal would hav... (Below threshold)
observer 5:

All that proposal would have done was stop any one of the Mexicans, Brazilians, etc., living in Massachusetts without a green card from ever reporting any crime to the police.

Robberies, assaults, rapes, domestic violence, drug sales would all go unreported and unprosecuted because no illegal alien witness would ever go near a policeman or call the police.

Even Romney's pandering idea will have an adverse effect on reporting of crime; even though it's rescinded, illegal aliens will not report crimes of fail to show up to testify in court, because they won't be sure now they won't be arrested.

That's why local police are against this bullshit pandering.

I do believe most speed ... (Below threshold)
observer 5:

I do believe most speed limits are unconstitutional

What amendment are you relying on there?

I don't recall the one that says: "The right of the people, to drive at any speed they damn well please through a school zone or on an interstate highway, shall not be infringed."

You'd be closer to the mark to say "The right of the people, to smoke a spliff in the privacy of their homes, shall not be infringed."

Or, as the Supreme Court has ruled, "The right of the people, as consenting adults in privacy, to practice oral or anal sex or other sodomy, heterosexually or homosexually, shall not be infringed."

Actually, the rodents hold ... (Below threshold)
The Exposer:

Actually, the rodents hold 88% of the MA House and 87.5% of the MA Senate, but who's counting?

Nice try, but ille... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Nice try, but illegal aliens are real criminals - in a way that citizens who violate chickenshit traffic laws manifestly are not. A useful clue here might be the fact that the Federal Government hasn't enacted a whole lot of wee little traffic laws, but controlling immigration is (or should be) a priority.

I take it you're one of those who's been stopped for violating some "chickenshit traffic" law and feel the police shouldn't be wasting their time with traffic offenses when there are so many real criminals out there. Of course, that's not really what my post was about.

Let me just say that I believe some traffic laws, like minor speeding, have more to do with the state earning extra revenue than with public safety. At the other end of the spectrum, I believe traffic laws like DWI have a lot to do with public safety, but don't generate enough revenue to offset the government's costs. Overall, local governments need the revenue from minor speeding violations in order to afford to keep officers patrolling the highways so that they are there when they are really needed.

Next time you get stopped for speeding, be nice to the officer and admit your error. If they still give you a ticket they will likely reduce the MPH's you're being charged with being over the limit. That's the only strategy officers consistently respond to with leniency. Ok, there's another strategy that works way better, but it requires you or a passenger be in late term pregnancy.




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