Last night we saw a new Jack Bauer, scarred by the two years he spent in a Chinese prison, traded back to the United States in order to be used as a negotiating chip with a terrorist leader. I really hate those plots where negotiation with terrorists is declared the only option. The good news, though, is that Jack showed them that there was not only another option, but a better one.
We also saw internal administration disagreement over civil liberties, Jack use a Mike Tyson-like vampire move to escape, and on a lighter note, Chloe's new hair style. Tonight's episode promises plenty more action beginning at 8 p.m. EST. Comments, and debate, are encouraged.
Update 7:45 p.m. EST: I forgot to remind those in later time zones to be aware that the comments section will contain spoilers as soon as the show begins in 15 minutes. You have been warned. Consider this your shot in the thigh. (For those not familiar with the "shot in the thigh" reference, Jack often shoots in the thigh those who either have not yet been convinced to tell everything they know, or who need to be stopped, but don't quite deserve killing. This is a running joke at Dave Barry's blog, as is the reference to the "First Cleavage", referring to the former First Lady, who has not yet appeared this season.)
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Lorie, thank you for introd... (Below threshold)1. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | January 15, 2007 5:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lorie, thank you for introducing me to Jack. I love how that no matter the situation, his courtesy is impeecable. He is truly a modern knight, fighting evil to protect the weak.
And I LOVE Morris and Chloe!!!!
1. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | January 15, 2007 5:39 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:39
2. Posted by jp2 | January 15, 2007 5:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Are you getting money to pimp this show? It's getting pretty gross - think about starting "Wizbang! 24." I'm sure you have lots of fanfic rearing to go.
2. Posted by jp2 | January 15, 2007 5:43 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:43
3. Posted by SilverBubble | January 15, 2007 5:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jp2, shut up.
3. Posted by SilverBubble | January 15, 2007 5:45 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:45
4. Posted by frank | January 15, 2007 5:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"24" rules. People who don't like it want the terrorists to win.
4. Posted by frank | January 15, 2007 5:47 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:47
5. Posted by Simply Kimberly | January 15, 2007 5:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I cannot wait for Jack to give a little payback to the Chinese security official that nabbed him at the end of day 5. He can't say he wasn't warned though. That look Jack gave him on the way into the hangar was chock full of I am going to kill you and enjoy it! You should think about running.
But why do the bureautwits insist on not believing Jack? Have they ever been right? I will forgive the NSA weenie for not falling in line, but what is Palmer's or Hayes' excuse? They know Jack Bauer. He is NEVER wrong.
5. Posted by Simply Kimberly | January 15, 2007 5:55 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:55
6. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 5:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lorie is the one who got me started on "24" also. I'd suggest anyone who isn't interested, just skip right on past this thread! And go start your own blog, instead of telling Lorie how to do hers!
6. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 5:56 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 17:56
7. Posted by Jo | January 15, 2007 6:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
On good lord jp2 -- can't you just flip the channel, or move to another post. Geez
Some people do nothing but complain to hear themselves speak no one else will listen!
7. Posted by Jo | January 15, 2007 6:06 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:06
8. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
woohoo! I'm ready to go! this season is looking great! but if we never see another Palmer again, it would be too soon.
8. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:07 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:07
9. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
actually that's a bit unfair of me. I did like Wayne last season, but its a bit of a stretch (even for 24) to imagine him as President. that said, its less of a stretch than the fairy tale character that David was (a (for the most part) tough and honorable Democrat). and Sherry was a great villainess. little sis, not so much.
9. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:11 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:11
10. Posted by Luke | January 15, 2007 6:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think it would be a bit tough for jp2 to start his own blog.
He probably uses his Mom's computer, an AOL connection, and dial-up.
Right jp2? :)
10. Posted by Luke | January 15, 2007 6:14 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:14
11. Posted by Simply Kimberly | January 15, 2007 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sherry was a great villainess. And you could relate to her even when you knew she was wrong. She had depth to her character.
But little sis? She is just an annoying pain in the arse who seems to be an SNL spoof of an ACLU lawyer. I volunteer her to add to the body count totals.
11. Posted by Simply Kimberly | January 15, 2007 6:16 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:16
12. Posted by John | January 15, 2007 6:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks for introducing me to this, Lorie. I'm on the Left Coast, so I won't get to see the second half of the premier until 8:00 Pacific, but I'm looking forward to it.
Sure it wasn't all that real. I mean would the government bribe the Chineese just to get a valued asset to hand over to another group?... Come on... Or that everybody all sat around after first hearing of the plan and saying "Yep! that's the ONLY way." Or that we're handing over the keys to all of our satelites... Nah. Or for that matter that the FBI keeps all of their TV's tuned to Fox News at all times? Ah, well. If the show was made by Cheetos, all the characters would be walking around with orange fingers, I guess...
Anyway, I really enjoyed the show. As a first timer, I would have enjoyed a bit more backstory, but figuring out who is who, is half the fun.
PS: I agree with Simply Kimberly. The Chinese security officer will be back, and I don't think it's going to go well for him...
Thanks again!
12. Posted by John | January 15, 2007 6:24 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:24
13. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
oh yesss...add her to the pile! along with spoofs of those spoofs of newsmen, Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews.
though she could turn out to be worthwhile yet, as a golden illustration of an ACLU terrorist sympathizer (and, I am pretty certain, co-conspirator). what is interesting is that her boyfriend seems genuinely not to be, though he's the head of the group.
13. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 6:28 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 18:28
14. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 7:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the writers are trying to give Jack his humanity back. Over the last 5 seasons, we've seen Jack slowly lose his humanity, slowly twisting into the same madmen he hunts. The 2 years in Chinese prison gives the writers a way to bring Jack back to reality as he slowly rebuilds his life, and becomes the bad-ass we all know and love.
But as they said in Fight Club ... You have to lose everything before you can do anything. Jack will hit bottom losing the only thing he had left ... himself. Once he does, I foresee a rebirth that will shock even the most seasoned 24 fan.
Or ... maybe they'll just blow up more stuff, stage a cheesy emotional breakthrough, and have Jack go on as if nothing ever happened ... what do I know?
14. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 7:24 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 19:24
15. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 7:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I like your first theory, Felix, but the second could be equally feasible.
In spite of the first word out of Jack's mouth being "Audrey," I don't see her character listed in the profiles for this season, nor Kim's.
How many years have gone by from first episode to this one? Just curious, because there have been 4 presidents, I think?
15. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 7:35 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 19:35
16. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 7:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
pjaykc, I'd guess around 9 years, unless Keeler was in his 2nd term when AF1 was shot down, which I don't think so, or unless Logan won reelection in his own right between seasons 4 and 5, which is possible, but not overly probable IMO, since that stretches the time frame to around 13 years.
season 1 occurred during the primaries, so around a year before Palmer became President. seasons 2 and 3 occurred during the next 4 years (Palmer's only term - see decision not to run for reelection at end of season 3). season 4, Keeler is President, but incapacitated, and Logan takes over. again, unless Logan wins a full term in between 4 and 5, we're still in the same 4-year term. and Wayne has just taken office, and its still only 2 years since Jack was taken prisoner by the ChiComms, so no possibility of another election between Logan and Palmer2.
what I'm curious about is what happened in that year and a half between Jack's disappearance and Wayne winning election. who was President then (did Logan have/did we ever see his VP)? did Logan somehow escape the rap and stay in office with Jack out of the way, or what?
16. Posted by me | January 15, 2007 7:54 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 19:54
17. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whaddaya know. The enemy combatants were really terrorists after all. The neighbor boy is a terrorist, the enemy combatants are terrorists. Lots of terrorists this season.
17. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:18 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:18
18. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
me--that's what I was trying to figure out--how Wayne got to be President. I just started watching last year, and I watched as many reruns as I could to try to catch up. Seemed like there was a different president each year! I'm going to have to rent them and watch from beginning to end.
18. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:19 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:19
19. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I wonder if Will Stronghold will suddenly reveal his superstrength and ability to fly and save his mom from the bleeding terrorist kid? Okay, okay. I am getting carried away. I loved that movie Sky High though.
19. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:20 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:20
20. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"There is no other option." Ugh. Palmer said it again. There is always another option when one of the options is negotiating with terrorists.
20. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:24 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:24
21. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Curtis needs to shut up and give Jack a break. The guy has been through hell and he doesn't know what to think right now.
21. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:26 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:26
22. Posted by nogo postal | January 15, 2007 8:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jack? Lorie although you and Jay are trying to make the real significance of Today...a non-event..
I will not....for 12 Years Doctor Martin Luther King jr. was the articulate soul of our nation...
At the very least something could have been posted for the usual exchange of opinion....
I will say...perhaps it is too soon to say in the future there will be a "Lorie Day" or a "Jay Tea Day"
...but your obvious omisson of what today is..will make your future arguments that you don't base some of your opinions on race a little weaker...
by the way the opening of 24..with torture and Jack the vampire on prime time?...I don't want to hear any outrage over a Janet Jackson breast ever..I will watch tonight...I love the guy who wants to take away freedoms because of the emergency of the threat...
I do love Jack working with a terrorist who killed someone last night
22. Posted by nogo postal | January 15, 2007 8:26 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:26
23. Posted by kimsch | January 15, 2007 8:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yep Lorie. It'd be great if Will Stronghold could use his Superstrength and flying to save his mom. But he's just Scott in this one...
23. Posted by kimsch | January 15, 2007 8:27 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:27
24. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
He's got a knife--maybe that will help.
24. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:31 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:31
25. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
uh-oh--busted!
25. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:41 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:41
26. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 8:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I wonder if the libtards are more ticked off that most of the terrorists so far are being portrayed as that, terrorists who are cowardly and who give no regard to the living.
As far as the "moderate" Assad the right seems to be complaining about, even Gadaffi renounced terrorism. It *can* happen.
26. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 8:46 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:46
27. Posted by kimsch | January 15, 2007 8:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Larry from Numb3rs didn't go to the International Space Station, he's badly advising the President...
27. Posted by kimsch | January 15, 2007 8:47 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:47
28. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
wow! neighbor guy killed the terrorist dude!
28. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:52 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:52
29. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Not to encourage further hijacking of this thread, but I did link some MLK posts from other blogs which I received via email this evening, but waited until the commercial to post. I have been busy with the kids most of the day since they are out of school so I did not read any blogs until this evening.
29. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 8:53 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:53
30. Posted by John F Not Kerry | January 15, 2007 8:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Although "24" doesn't do much for me, I certainly will uphold your right to blog about it and discuss whatever details you choose.
NoGoPostal:
Are conservative bloggers required to compose odes to MLK just because it is his birthday? I think MLK would be OK with "24" blogging, but would shudder to see what became of the movement he so ably and powerfully led.
30. Posted by John F Not Kerry | January 15, 2007 8:54 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:54
31. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
the guard was a bad guy!
31. Posted by pjaykc | January 15, 2007 8:55 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:55
32. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 8:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jeebus, another traitor.
32. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 8:56 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:56
33. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 15, 2007 8:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is why I love this show. It's so unpredictable. The last scene was shocking!
33. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 15, 2007 8:57 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:57
34. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 8:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is anyone is weaving a tapestry of obscenity at the television the way I am right now? I mean ... WTF ... This is why you DO NOT negotiate with terrorists.
-* fuming *-
Let's hope that Jack can do something to abate the flow of sh*t from the whitehouse.
34. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 8:58 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:58
35. Posted by Methos | January 15, 2007 8:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have seen the first 4 eps of this new season and you people are in for a treat.
My wife and myself sat glued to the TV for all 4 eps and when we got to the end of number 4 we both sat, mouth wide open with a WTF on our lips!
Another great season of 24 rolls on, cant wait for more.
ps: I said the same thing, that Chinese Security agent is going to get very dead before season end and I think Jack is going to enjoy it! Payback is a b1tch!
35. Posted by Methos | January 15, 2007 8:58 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:58
36. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 8:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is anyone else that is ... I'm so angry I can't type.
36. Posted by DJFelix | January 15, 2007 8:59 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 20:59
37. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 9:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's interesting the role they have Taj Mahal Badalandabad playing.
37. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 15, 2007 9:10 PM |
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Posted on January 15, 2007 21:10
38. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 9:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just what I suspected! The guys were fighting over Chloe!
38. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 15, 2007 9:18 PM |
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