This is why we must make it clear to the world that we will not submit. Ever.

Malignant idiots. The whole country is full of malignant idiots...

Yet we've done nothing to stop the spread of radical islam (sans those directly involved in violence and funding) from establishing a growing foothold here.

A large number of American mosques and Islamic "charities" are fund by these savages. Close them all down ... they are simply Consulates for Terrorism ...

Nuclear energy and weapons resulted largely from research done by Jewish scientists. We need to keep shoving that fact in the faces of practitioners and supporters of radical Islam and soon there will be a fatwa declaring nuclear technology is evil and practitioners of it as infidels.

We need to keep shoving that fact in the faces of practitioners and supporters of radical Islam and soon there will be a fatwa declaring nuclear technology is evil and practitioners of it as infidels.

The Nazis actually tried to define and marginalize "Jewish Physics" for a while.

The Saudi commission has shaped life and death: declared jihad against Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan,

Well, so they can't be all bad. They helped liberate millions by helping the Evil Empire to fall.

Of course, there was a little "blowback," but I'd rather be facing a few rag-tag terrorists (it's too bad we're too incompetent to catch or kill OBL) than worrying about the Group of Soviet Forces in Europe, the Warsaw Pact, and the Strategic Rocket Forces of the USSR on alert, with about 10 megatons in MIRVed warheads targeting my city.

How soon people forget.

It was equally cruel to be born into the world of David Koresh or Fred Phelps. Radical religion of ANY type is malignant...

blackcat77, rent "Waco: Rules of Engagement". (sheesh!)

Our government allows the Saudis to spread their bigoted, sexist, religous, hatred in our nation's mosques, schools, and prisons.

Those in government who are enabling the Saudis to infiltrate the U.S. should be investigated and charged with providing support for a foreign government set on subverting our constitution by spreading religous hatred against American Citizens who are not of the wahabbi Muslim faith.

So ... what's their take on the letter "T"?

That place should just be nuked

Kim...as you know bin Laden and 15 of the hijacker/killers on 9/11 came from this country...
yet we don't and won't condemn them....
We crawl on our bellies and beg for their oil...
"Cut and Run" in Iraq a sign of weakness?
Sucking up to the Saudi royal family while they encourage their clergy and their religious schools to teach hatred toward Israel and anything from the "western culture"....now that's a sign of weakness....

Jaquie writes;

Those in government who are enabling the Saudis to infiltrate the U.S. should be investigated and charged with providing support for a foreign government set on subverting our constitution by spreading religous hatred against American Citizens who are not of the wahabbi Muslim faith.

In the almost 6 years of his presidency, Dubya had never vetoed a single bill. There was only one bill - only one that he guarenteed he would veto, and that was regarding a congressional action to block the sale of marine port operations for about 30% of American ports to a Saudi owned company.

Fortunatly, the deal was killed before the issue came to a head, and we never got to see him excercise his first veto which would have greenlighted the sale of our port security to the Saudis.

So, yeah... By all means, I'm for investigations...

The True Flat Earth Society.

Sheesh, there aren't too many societies this horrid, failed. Stuck in the past about 1000 years ago.

Is this the same Saudi Arabia, the same country that Georgie boy holds hands with the princes who supply us with oil?

No, really?

I have this arguement with my brother, the Conservative all the time.

The luck is being born in America (and white, and male, and to good parents, etc).

Yet the loss of innocent Iraqi lives is "just the cost of war".
I'll ask you, what i ask my brother: What did YOU do to be so lucky? And why is it so difficult for you to put yourself in someone else's shoes, particularly when the ENTIRE thing is a matter of luck?

I'll ask you, what i ask my brother: What did YOU do to be so lucky? And why is it so difficult for you to put yourself in someone else's shoes, particularly when the ENTIRE thing is a matter of luck?

Well, not siding with genocidal maniacs helps us tremendously.

Again, if you hate America, NOBODY really cares if you go. You're free to leave.
-=Mike

I wrote about this on my blog Crossroads Arabia, where I keep track of real issues in Saudi Arabia, not the paranoid fantasies of people like "John" who can't tell Saudi Arabia from Dubai.

The story about "X" actually broke in a Saudi newspaper in an op-ed written by a Saudi, Amr Mohammed Al-Faisal, in 2002.

There certainly are reactionary, even dangerous Saudis. The majority of Saudis are not radical, are not extremist, but instead are ultra-traditionalists who see no reason to change the way they've been doing things for 1400 years. They're particularly adverse to change when yahoos start threatening to nuke them if they don't.

It might prove informative to see what Saudis actually talk about among themselves; it sure isn't the fantasies being projected here.

And a question for Jaquie: Does your condemnation extend to those USG employees who send Saudi religious scholars to visit parochial or other religiously-oriented schools in the US in order to demonstrate that it's possible to instill religious values without demonizing other religions? I did that, starting in 2003, from the US Embassy in Riyadh. That program still continues. I just want to know if I should be getting out my law books some time soon.

To John Burgess,

Aw, dammit.... My appologies. You are correct. It was Dubai, not Saudia Arabia.

Thanks for the correction.

Bryab: I've seen "Rules of Engagement" several times and it raises many valid issues. However, it does not change the basic fact that David Koresh was a full-blown religious nut who sacrificed over 80 people to the principle that he was God's messenger on earth.

And a question for Jaquie: Does your condemnation extend to those USG employees who send Saudi religious scholars to visit parochial or other religiously-oriented schools in the US in order to demonstrate that it's possible to instill religious values without demonizing other religions? I did that, starting in 2003, from the US Embassy in Riyadh. That program still continues. I just want to know if I should be getting out my law books some time soon.

Yes. Because, until American religious scholars of the Christian and Jewish faiths are allowed into Saudi Arabia in a similar fashion, then Saudi religious scholars should not be allowed into the U.S. to preach their ideology in any fashion. I have to ask why you would set up such a one-sided program in U.S. schools and not insist that the Saudis set up a similar programs in Saudi schools?