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The Enemy At Home

Jonathan Garthwaite has an interesting interview with Dinesh D'Souza at Townhall about D'Souza's new book, The Enemy At Home - The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11, which is about "the connection between the cultural left's attack on traditional American values and the growing hostility by Muslim extremists towards the United States."

TH: What does the military war against the terrorists abroad have in common with the cultural war with the left at home? Why is it that we cannot win the war against Islamic radicalism without first defeating the cultural left?

DSOUZA: Consider the war in Iraq. This war is tough going in Iraq. But it is even tougher going in America. The war is being lost not on the streets of Baghdad but right here in America. It is the cultural left that is doing Bin Laden's work for him. There is no way that Bin Laden could persuade America to give up on the war on terror and get out of Iraq and the Middle East. Fortunately for Bin Laden he has a whole political movement in the United States that is dedicated to exactly this objective. So how can Bush expect to win over there when he is losing over here? In Vietnam the military won the Tet Offensive, but here in America it was portrayed in the media as a humiliating defeat. In fact, Tet became a symbol of American failure. So Bush had better wake up to the fact that he is facing two enemies, an enemy abroad and an enemy at home.


Comments (79)

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mantis:

Colbert nails Dinesh.

What. A. Tool.

Dinesh has his hat screwed ... (Below threshold)
John:

Dinesh has his hat screwed on a bit too tight.

To think that there is a "connection between the cultural left's attack on traditional American values and the growing hostility by Muslim extremists towards the United States" is nonsense.

We will never solve this problem if we don't understand the root causes behind the unrest between American and developing countries.

When you watch Fox news, and you see those wild eyed pistol wavers who "ain't afraid to die", burning American flags, do you REALLY think they are doing it to disagree with our liberal policies for healthcare, reproductive choice, workers rights, etc?

Come on... No matter how right wing you are, you can't possibly believe that....

What they are mad about is US military intervention, imperialism, a perceived war against Islam by fundamentalist Christians, military bases, a failure of US policy to more fully support a resolution to the Palestine conflict, US monitary policy for developing countries, etc.

These are traditionaly "right wing" not "left wing" policy side effects.

Until we can be honest about the nature of the dispute, we'll never be able to resolve it. Writers like Dinesh are doing a horible disservice to the reading public.

YOU'RE a tool!... (Below threshold)
vaildog:

YOU'RE a tool!

What evidence has D'Souza... (Below threshold)
MyPetGloat:

What evidence has D'Souza provided that our official enemies have ever colluded with "The Cultural Left"?

None.


Dinesh D'Souza: West Indian for "Born with two assholes"

If you talk like the enemy,... (Below threshold)

If you talk like the enemy, cheerlead the enemy, spit on our troops and call them torturers and babykillers, what logical conclusion can you draw?

D'Souza, poor fellow, using logic and all.

The left in this country is on the same side as Bin Laden. They hate America and despise capitalism, free speech, and the power of the individual. Unfortunately, they have the mainstream media on their side, as they did during Viet Nam.

As a friend of a boat person from Viet Nam, who was a twelve year old girl when her parents put her on a boat in the South China sea, I can tell you what she thinks of the leftists who talked America into abandoning freedom in Indochina.

She's about five feet tall, but she'd kick your ass. I and I would help.

Robert Spencer at <a href="... (Below threshold)
Jack:

Robert Spencer at jihadwatch has been 'reviewing' this laughable book.

Read these posts <a href="h... (Below threshold)
jack:

Read these posts 1 2 3 4 to see exactly where D'Souza goes horribly wrong.

Dinesh's solution (watch th... (Below threshold)
John:

Dinesh's solution (watch the Colbert interview, linked above) is that we need to become more religious, to prove to Bin Laden that we are not depraved. Isn't that talking like the enemy?

If you send your children to die for a war based on false pretenses, isn't that akin to spitting on them?

When our troops are trying to do the best job they can, and Dubya is out on the stump saying we don't torture, while at the same time the Vice President is lobying congress to allow blanket protection FOR torture, and we speak out, why do you assume we're insulting our brave men and women, and not our elected officials who are really responsible?

The left in this country is NOT on the same side as Bin Laden. What a ridiculous thing to say. You really think we can't wait for Sharia law? Yeah, I want my wife in a burqua.

God, you're a dumb-ass. Turn off Fox news.

If you talk like the ene... (Below threshold)
mantis:

If you talk like the enemy,

Don't speak Arabic.

cheerlead the enemy,

Don't even own pom-poms

spit on our troops and call them torturers and babykillers,

Never.

what logical conclusion can you draw?

You're an asshole?

D'Souza, poor fellow, using logic and all.

Logic in this case being defined as ignorant, poorly thought-out, fascist tripe? Poor fellow indeed.

The left in this country is on the same side as Bin Laden.

You're right, if by "side" you mean the northern hemisphere.

They hate America and despise capitalism, free speech, and the power of the individual.

I love America, capitalism, and free speech. "The power of the individual" is a fuzzy, probably meaningless phrase in this context, so I'll ignore it.

She's about five feet tall, but she'd kick your ass. I and I would help.

Kicking is probably all you can do, what with your arms wrapped up in the straightjacket. Time for your meds.

LorieHope you chec... (Below threshold)
aRepukelican:

Lorie

Hope you checked Manris' link.

Are you so terribly desperate to try to highlight this crap from d'Souza? Are you so devoid of intellect that you think this moron advances your cause? Did you even read the "Publishers Weekly" thumbnail on the Amazon link that you provided, so hopefully, thinking that the Wizchoir would rush to order this palpable crap? Do you really have so low of an opinion of your readers?

You are desperate.

I haven't read the book but... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

I haven't read the book but I did read the interview posted on townhall and I think D'Souza made some very good points that do ring true to me.

Then again I'm not a member of the fabricated reality based community, unlike most of those who have so far commented in this thread.

Oh, yeah... Dinesh seems p... (Below threshold)
John:

Oh, yeah... Dinesh seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector, and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world.

It's that darn system of government we have. And our non profits and universities. If we could just eliminate all that we'd get along much better.

By the way, if you watch the Colbert interview linked above, the first reason Dinesh acknowleges for the "volcano of anger" is our foreign policy, not all this other pandering crap he's pedaling.

Thanks Mantis for the video... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Thanks Mantis for the video.:.From Wikipedia
"Atta traveled twice to Las Vegas on "surveillance flights" rehearsing how the 9/11 attacks would be carried out. Other hijackers traveled to Las Vegas at different times in the summer of 2001. Some reportedly drank alcohol, gambled, and paid strippers to perform lap dances for them. [11]

Staff at Shuckum's Oyster Bar later claim that they recognized both Atta and al-Shehhi."


According to D'souza's. It is the left's war against the traditional patriarchal family, morality and religion that enraged the hijackers...lap dancers/ gambling and alcohol being their personal sins of exception, I suppose.

ALERT!!!Rush is pi... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

ALERT!!!

Rush is pissed at Bush (hint, NSA).

So: since Middle America (t... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

So: since Middle America (the ones whose voice was heard in last November's elections) doesn't support the house-to-house searches for Bin Laden's Ghost in Baghdad, Tikrit, and Basra or the foot patrols through urban canyons ("forget the high-groung , marines. This is a community relations excercise"); and since middle America (and the world) KNOWS that Bin Ladin is in Pashtun Waziristan yet the Administration would rather fuck with the Kurds just to "get" Iran: Because 60% of American voters don't agree with the Neocon perpetual war policies, WE'RE traitors? (If D'Souza meant only the "usual suspects" on the far left, the Bushbots wouldn't be flailing their arms so wildly!) Oh, yeah! And D'Souza and the chickenhawks scribblers are 100% OPEN BORDERS. Invade the World/ Invite the World!

That was the longest run-on... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

That was the longest run-on sentence I have ever seen.

If the right is so concerne... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

If the right is so concerned with what OBL thinks, why don't they kill or capture him?

Seems like an easy way to solve the problem.

As is detailed well on the ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

As is detailed well on the JihadWatch site (linked above), one wonders how D'Souza reconciles his hypothesis (re: the cultural left causes terrorism) in light of Islamist terrorism against African Anglicans in Niger, Buddhists in southern Thailand, and Hindus in Bangladesh. Clearly those groups are all a part of the American 'cultural left'. Anyone who thinks this guy makes "some very good points" is complete moron willing to believe anything as long as it stokes the fires of partisan hate (and lays the groundwork for ideological cleansing, in the name of defense, of course).

BarneyG2000,Probab... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

BarneyG2000,

Probably for the same reason that the left hasn't killed or captured him.

mantis,The "cultur... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

mantis,

The "cultural left" doesn't cause terrorism, religious and political zealots cause terrorism.

Dinesh needs to stop blaming America for the actions of terrorists.

Not sure why I adressed my ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Not sure why I adressed my last comment to you mantis. Guess I was just reading your post before I wrote. heh.

jack, great links, especial... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

jack, great links, especially the #s. By pooh-poohing whatever flaws Islam has in his own mind, D'Souza has made his motivation clear: the wogs at NRO are trying to start a civil war HERE! For the Cleansing of Wrong Thoughts? (How that defeats the Islamist THERE is left for conjecture. Tha neocons are allowing themselves that Wiggle Room.)

Gee Hearld, I didn't know t... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gee Hearld, I didn't know the commander and chief was a leftie?

heralder: Buy some Ritilin.... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

heralder: Buy some Ritilin... A.D.D. doesn't have to a life sentence. "heh"

Barney,Just as I d... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Barney,

Just as I didn't realize the Commander in Chief was (cue dramatic music) *"the right"*

bryanD,I'll buy so... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

bryanD,

I'll buy some Ritilin if you promise to begin writing in english.

Anyone who calls his fellow... (Below threshold)
Blue Neponset:

Anyone who calls his fellow Americans the 'enemy' is a poor excuse for an Ameircan.

My personal barometer to te... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

My personal barometer to tell if an idea or theory holds water is to see how loud lefties squeal and rant. If they really jump on it, shout, stamp their feet, that tells me there is truth to the article. Lefties gave themselves away again. ww

To say that the left in thi... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

To say that the left in this country is on the same side as Islamic Extremists not true. What is true is that the left and Islamic Extremists have some common goals. Both would like to see American troops withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible. Both would like to see the foreign policies of Bush fail. Both would like to marginalize Christianity. Both support the right to choose abortion, with the distinction that the left supports the woman making the choice while Islamic Extremists support the man making the choice, etc.

Yes, the right in this country has some goals in common with Islamic Extremists as well. Both support a ban on gay marriage. Both support a ban on child pornography. Both support the right of the individual to have and use firearms. etc.

What's really amazing is that the left and right also have some common goals. Both support free speech, justice, a strong economy, energy independence, and world peace. It's just that the methods are different.

Why the right views the left as siding with Islamic Extremists is because their goals are similarly concerning Iraq in particular and the war on terror in general. I don't doubt that the motivation of the left is far different than that of Islamic Extremists, but that takes second place to common goals.

Like many on the right, I think winning in Iraq, as defined by Bush, is extremely important. Perhaps as important as winning WW2. I see the threat Saddam would now pose and the unique legal position Iraq was in due to the agreements it signed at the end of Gulf War 1 (GW1), as fully justifying the 2003 invasion. I'm sure I'll see some on the left criticize that statement just as the Islamic Extremists will.

WildWillie:I have ... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

WildWillie:

I have a little different take with regard to the right. How do we know you're lying? Your lips, on is this case typewriters, are moving.

P.S.

Just a little joke. Don't get your drawers in a knot now you righties.

Mac Lorry,I think ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Mac Lorry,

I think you summed up Dinesh' malfunction in critical thought quite well. Good post.

Though for me:

I don't doubt that the motivation of the left is far different than that of Islamic Extremists, but that takes second place to common goals.

...motivation means a hell of a lot. In fact, I believe it overrides the commonality of goals.

Why is it that the right al... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Why is it that the right always choose words like (Bush) crusades or cultural war?.I've never heard anyone on the left say they are in a cultural war with middle America or conservatives are the enemy at home. Further one of the main purpose(s) of the war in Iraq--and the "war on terrorism"--seems to have been to foment division to choose beween whether you are 'with us or against us.' D'Souza who has chosen the the traditional Life magazine view of America long after it has gone, succumb's in part of the revisionist history in the Colbert interview l in the Colbert interview also believes that it was "FDR who gave away Eastern Europe at Yalta" Of course he neglects to mention what the traditional Republicans like Mr Robert Taft wanted to do with the troops...keep them home, and far from Europe.

Wow look at all the trolls ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Wow look at all the trolls and their fast and furious posts all in a row. Apparently D'souza has struck a nerve and they're realizing he's right. That's usually what gets their panties in a wad. Love it!!

You know that D'Souza is ri... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

You know that D'Souza is right when you read the slobbering rants of the left just on this post. He has drawn the rabid dogs out of their holes and they're snapping at everyone and everything. They don't have a defense, just more slobber slinging rants.

This has been the most comical couple of months in the history of the U.S. We have a bunch of mental retards in congress passing laws that will damage the country for years and the 'retards' own families will suffer as much as anyone. Think the country can stand them, he** they can't even count to a hundred, been sworn in for days and can only account for what? 30 hours? I guess they can waste a billion dollars and call it a hundred dollars and the left won't know the difference. They are sniffing and shootin up some wicked stuff in D.C. this month. I no longer wonder where the serial killers, rapist, and child molesters come from. Just look at the rage of the lefties.

Just keep laughing at them as they destroy themselves.
Yesterday they issued and open invitation to the terrorists. We are no longer tracking you, plan a lot of attacks, kill a few hundred thousand, you won't be caught anymore. Open season on America.

The doomsday clock was just moved forward to 11:55. Funny that this should occur two weeks after the dhimmi's take over. Doom and gloom and world destruction. I guess they are watching the action in "24", Mushroom cloud coming to your neighborhood soon. ROFL

Thanks "jo" you beat me to ... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Thanks "jo" you beat me to the punch. That got them out in droves. lol It even got old "john" out. I believe he is the one that "used" to be in the "media". And the one that has all kinds of "degrees" but forgot where he got them. lol Also you can tell by all the linkies and so and so said (so it has to be true) that they point to. By the way has anyone heard from old "pucker puss" (lee lee) (resident turd polisher)? Maybe he changed "socks". lol

Gosh golly, of course that ... (Below threshold)
Mercury:

Gosh golly, of course that little girl Dineer Dsousaa is right! If we only purged our society of all the things that Al Qaeada supposedly hates us for(which has nothing to do with military bases in Saudi Arabia), then we'll become just like they are, hence they won't want to attack us anymore.

Brilliant! I'll open a burka store downtown and make sure I get some yokels to help me burn books and destroy cassettes and television sets. Then they won't hate us anymore.

Oh, and Scrapiron, you eith... (Below threshold)
Mercury:

Oh, and Scrapiron, you either need to get out more or get a woman or something. Reading your unhinged rant was most amusing, everything from child rapists to 24, wow, you covered the bases there didn't you?

Of course you didn't defend a single premise Dsousa made, but that's typical of the angry bitter poster here.

ScrapironTime to p... (Below threshold)
aRepukelican:

Scrapiron

Time to put your drool cup back on...you're shorting out the keys on your board.

My personal barometer to... (Below threshold)
Brian:

My personal barometer to tell if an idea or theory holds water is to see how loud lefties squeal and rant. If they really jump on it, shout, stamp their feet, that tells me there is truth to the article.
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Wow look at all the trolls and their fast and furious posts all in a row. Apparently D'souza has struck a nerve and they're realizing he's right. That's usually what gets their panties in a wad. Love it!!
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You know that D'Souza is right when you read the slobbering rants of the left just on this post.

Hey, thanks for the useful measuring stick, all. Let's apply the same measurement to past reaction from the right. I guess that shows that the 9/11 conspiracy theories were correct, that Michael Moore was right, that John Kerry was a brave war hero, a Democratic Congress really is better for America, and a whole host of other things!

Wow, it really is more convenient to eliminate rational thought! Thanks for enlightening us about the conservative way of thinking!

Barney, thank you for that ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Barney, thank you for that little Rush is mad at Bush "alert." Glad to know you listen to Rush. Maybe there's hope for you to learn something eventually.

Anyway, kinda puts to rest all the lefties screaming that we're all in lock step with Bush, now doesn't it?

Do you ever stop to think how you guys do your own "outing" of your idiocy?

Notice not one wizzer defen... (Below threshold)
Mercury:

Notice not one wizzer defends a single thing D'souza says. Not one. Wonder why that is?

For the sake of those on th... (Below threshold)
mantis:

For the sake of those on this thread who are capable of rational thought (yes, this excludes you scrappy-doo, jhow, jo, and wetwillie), I would like to note that the argument put forth by many on the left, both here and elsewhere, that the reason Islamists attack us is due to our presence in the Middle East, is wrong. Our presence there, while certainly a point of contention, is a red herring in terms of primary motivations of Islamists. Islamists attack America for the same reason they attack the Jews, the African Anglicans, the Buddhists, the Hindus, the gays, and a host of others. The do so because their religious texts command them to.

I do not mean to imply that all Muslims subscribe to the belief that violence is a religious imperative, only that those who don't choose to ignore fundamental principles of their religion. That's a good thing; most Christians chose to abandon such principles after the Enlightenment and western civilization has thrived ever since. But the fact remains that Islamists, while they are sure to decry the military aggression of the US in their propaganda, do what they do for religious reasons. If you doubt this, my fellow lefties, ask yourselves why the Japanese have not engaged in violent attacks on Americans due to our military presence on their land and the abuses their population has suffered from some US servicemen in Okinawa. Keep in mind that the Japanese are probably the least religious people in the world when you do.

We have our homegrown Ameri... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

We have our homegrown America haters, arising out of the Vietnam, Cold War past--anything we do is imperialistic, etc . . .

Naive, stupid people. Paranoid as hell.

I think what many of my fel... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

I think what many of my fellow righties here are not seeing (and mantis is higlighting and refuting) is that either way you slice it, Dinesh is blaming America for terrorism...which is an accusation we've fought against from the start.

Mitchel, considering you we... (Below threshold)
John:

Mitchel, considering you were the one who was hoping just three days ago that Bush and Cheney would pull off a military coup so we could have more of them for the next 10 years, one might ask why YOU hate America so much.

Naive, stupid poster. Ignorant as hell.

So, nobody... Not one person cares to defend Dinesh...

Thanks for including me "pr... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Thanks for including me "preyingmantis"--now I know that you know that I know you got "shit for brains"--hey that makes you ok to be in the "club". (psst-wally world has a special on toilet paper-better hurry as it sounds like you need plenty)

Uhhh what school was it tha... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Uhhh what school was it that you got all your "degrees" "johnie"?

Hi, little monkey.... (Below threshold)
John:

Hi, little monkey.

SIU, why?

Heralder has it right. Lori... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Heralder has it right. Lorie and the rest of you are suddenly throwing support behind a guy who says America is responsible for terrorism. From the Colbert interview:

Colbert: What other cultural editing notes should we take from the terrorists? I agree with you, there are some good ideas that these guys have, that there are some parts of our culture that are corrosive, and you agree with some of the things that they're saying. You have the courage to say that, right? That you agree with some of the things that these radical extremists are against in America? Do you agree with that statement?

D'Souza: I agree with it.

That's who you guys are supporting?

D'souza abhors homosexuali... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

D'souza abhors homosexuality but loves Jesuit catholic schools such as the one he was educated in Bombay. Has campaigned against coeducation in the United States. Abover all else, he values the patriarchal family. No wonder he has such an adversion to popular American culture..I don't think it has laid a glove on him. Wonder what he thinks of fashion shows...no doubt corrosive and degrading.

mantis, You made a... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

mantis,

You made a good point as to the primary motivations of Islamists. To generalize, it's the encroachment of western technology, culture and values that Islamists see as their biggest thereat.

What changed Christianity was the translation, publishing and wide spread availability of the Bible so that people could read what it actually said. Some of those responsible for putting the Bible in the hands of common people paid with their lives. Unlike Islam, there is no general call to war against non-believers in the Bible, but rather war was for the specific purpose of establishing and preserving the nation of Israel. Apart from a few extremists, Christians influence society through their wallet, the political process, and the ballot box. The day when law abiding citizens can't chose who to do business with, what political party to support and how to vote based on their own beliefs is the day when the United States can no longer be considered a free nation.

Cheney/Bush Foreverrrrrrrrr... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Cheney/Bush Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Then, they can sic the Secret Police on John here and shut the poor bastard up before he makes more of an ass of himself.

Viva Halliburton!

This guy Dinesh is a sh*the... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

This guy Dinesh is a sh*thead. He is trying to use cheap political verbage to sell a book.

MacLorry and Mantis illustrate exactly why we should all (as Americans) do something regarding extreme Islam. It's not the left or right (and certainly not the left or right talking points brought up by some in this thread), it's the western culture and the differences that lifestyle has with their strict adherance to their religion.

Mac Lorry,No blood... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Mac Lorry,

No blood on the hands of Christians.
As far as you know.

BTW, are you an illiterate?

Robert,"You keep usi... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Robert,
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

I think a lot of posters on... (Below threshold)
Wanderlust:

I think a lot of posters on this thread have missed the point. Lorie's Townhall quote should not lead one to think that D'Souza is "blaming America", or saying that the political Left is "trying to lose" the GWoT. I don't see either of these arguments in the quoted section above.

What I do see, across the Globe, is that the Left (more often than not) feels little to no need to consider the broader consequences of its actions, in regards to the things it says it wants.

Cases in point:

* Tet, and the Vietnam War in general: the Tet Offensive was a tactical disaster for the NVA. By all accounts, the NVA got slaughtered, and the Offensive set them back significantly from a military perspective. However, the NVA (and its Soviet patron) were actively managing the Information War through the Press, which, through a series of events, eventually broke the American will to fight. At that time, the Left did not agree with the "domino theory" of Soviet aggression, so they wanted out. The problem is not that they wanted out of Vietnam; rather, the problem is that they did not stop to consider the consequences of a withdrawal of American forces and what would come of it.

The Left's sin, to use a phrase, was a sin of omission. The Left did not say, as it were, that they wanted Pol Pot to come into Cambodia and slaughter the populace, nor did the Left say that it wanted the NVA to overrun the south and virtually enslave the people of South Vietnam. It was the untimely withdrawal of US forces that led to those outcomes, because the withdrawal created a power vacuum in the region that the South Vietnamese and Cambodian governments were not strong enough to fill. The Khmer Rouge and Communist North Vietnam were stronger at that point, and the rest is history.

* * Iraq, and GWI & GWII: Bush '41 refused to "finish what he started" in Iraq in 1990-91 because of a prevailing political fear of Iraq turning into "another Vietnam" (read, lack of support from the public for a war that they didn't want). So rather than follow through on all the promises of support that James Baker made to the Shias and Kurds. Withdrawal led to Saddam consolidating his power by slaughtering both groups en-masse.

Now the stakes are much higher. Regardless of how loudly some on the Left scream "no blood for oil!", GWII is all about oil - and about the health and stability of the world's economy in a general sense. It is also about the focal point to the fundamental rift within Islam, and where that rift is heading.

The dirty little secret regarding oil is that Iraq has a lot of it, although much of its capacity is still not back on line. By comparison, Saudi Arabia's supplies are dwindling (if you don't think they are, ask a mechanical engineer why the Saudis have to rely on so much salt water injection into their wells these days, to maintain production volumes), as are Iran's. Between the two sits Iraq and its reserves.

Some might argue that Iraq doesn't have a lot of oil, because Saddam was trying to slant-drill into Kuwait in 1989, which started the whole mess. But my response to that argument is that Saddam believed himself to be the next pan-Arab leader, taking on the mantle of Nasser at his height. Taking little Kuwait would have given Saddam wealth to tackle larger fights, that he didn't have when he went up against Iran earlier in the decade.

Iraq is also the focal point of the Sunni-Shia rift. Iraq's Shias are 65% of its population, which tilt towards Iran (who sees itself as the leader of all Shias), and its Sunnis are approximately 20 - 25%, who lean towards Saudi Arabia (who has already stated that it will place troops in Iraq if the US "redeploys"). A power vacuum in Iraq now would quite plausibly result in an eventual wholesale civil war across all of the Arab League countries, along Sunni and Shia lines. Should this conflict actually take place, it could easily bring in China, who would quickly move to secure its own oil imports from Iran. And keep in mind that there are approximately one billion Arabs in the world, and that most of them live in the Middle East.

To summarise, I don't think that the Left is overtly responsible for "losing" the GWoT. What I do think is that the Left often fails to consider the broader consequences and ramifications of its actions. This failure includes those who think that the US should not have invaded Iraq in the first place, in 2003. What they miss is that Saddam may not have had WMDs at the time (for the sake of argument, I'll pretend that the scores of pesticide drums found at Iraqi military bases were there just to fight mosquitos buzzing every town within 30 miles of each base), but Saddam did have the infrastructure in place to quickly resume nuclear WMD programs once sanctions were lifted. He had the French, Russians, and the UN in his back pocket vis a vis the Oil for Food program, while piling up a huge cash reserve from it. I think it is entirely plausible that, should Saddam have actually acquired nuclear weapons, it would have spurred a middle eastern arms race that would have quickly nuclearized the entire region (which was entirely possible due to the Pakistani nuclear arms bazaar led by A.Q. Khan). And contrary to those who scream with fingers pointed at the Israeli nuclear arsenal, Israel has had those nukes for over 30 years, yet has taken great pains to never openly brandish them. Compare and contrast Israel's restraint with any number of statements from Ahmandinejad.

Sins of omission are sometimes worse than sins of commission, because the person just sits back and lets things happen - as is often quoted, "all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to sit back and do nothing."

Food for thought.

Speaking of tools:... (Below threshold)
marc:

Speaking of tools:

What they are mad about is US military intervention, imperialism, a perceived war against Islam by fundamentalist Christians, military bases, a failure of US policy to more fully support a resolution to the Palestine conflict, US monitary policy for developing countries, etc.
Posted by: John at January 18, 2007 11:39 AM

A "perceived war? Isn't that the precise problem? It's perceived by the terrorists to be so as a direct result of State controlled media in most parts of the Arab world. It's perceived because of the almost total exclusion of any favorable coverage such as hundreds of millions spent by the US after the Bam, Iran earthquake, Indonesian tsunami or the continuing effort to support the Muslims throughout the Balkans.

Name one Western country that has given more support to the Palestinian issue. Bush was the first and only US President to offer publicly a two State solution. The US pissed hundreds of millions in tax dollars into Arafats rathole only to see it spent on hate and what amounts to snuff videos shown to young children in Elementary schools, the rest went into AraRATS pockets.

Yes John, you are a tool and possibly a leading candidate for Presidency of the Blame America First Party of loonbats.

"it's the western culture... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"it's the western culture and the differences that lifestyle has with their strict adherance to their religion."

Specifically the immoral disgusting lifestyles of Liberals in Hollywood , their Movies and the arrogant immoral behavior of one US President , BJ Clinton . Followed by the lock step loonies support and defense of said disgraceful and inappropiate behavior from the leader of the free world.

Democrats drunk on POWER having an orgy of a time believing they can get away will anything and do whatever , where ever. Like going out to clubs , getting drunk then having unprotected sex and high fiving and bragging to the boys the next day. Then a month later he finds out he contracted a venereal disease and the chick is pregnant. That's OK in the minds of the losers because they just blow it off as if it's no big deal. "EVERYBODY DOES IT."

It's because of Patriotic Americans who have the balls and courage to defend our Country from the treats we now face thanks to the Unpatriotic immoral behavior of the stinking hippies who will go to their graves attempting to distort and deny their continued damage they have caused our Country. Thank you very much all you stupid stinking Communist Hippies and the shit for brains that continue to choose to defends these criminal frauds and attack the ones who defend us in their lust for Power and shameless lifesyle.

Robert, N... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Robert,

No blood on the hands of Christians. As far as you know.

And where did I say that? Are you confused about what the Bible teaches vs. what some who claim to be Christians do?

I think a lot of p... (Below threshold)
Nikolay:
I think a lot of posters on this thread have missed the point. Lorie's Townhall quote should not lead one to think that D'Souza is "blaming America", or saying that the political Left is "trying to lose" the GWoT. I don't see either of these arguments in the quoted section above.
These arguments are not in the quoted section, but he wrote the whole book based on these arguments. Just read the introduction: he blames ACLU and Human Rights Watch for angering Muslims into attacking WTC.
Rob LA CaObviously... (Below threshold)
aRepukelican:

Rob LA Ca

Obviously you've lost your drool cup and are shorting out your keyboard.

From the stench of your lunatic post I suspect that your colostomy bag is overflowing as well.

Haven't you overetended your weekend pass?

aRepukelican, ... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

aRepukelican,

Quiet maggot. Don't blame others for your miserable existence , you chose it. Your name speaks volumes about how hate filled you are. You get so enraged that you have no facts , truth or reality on your side , just like minded idiots like yourself. Your intollerable disdain for those who will never believe a word you say and your hateful name calling are a smoke screen. Truth is like the name you chose , you hate yourself. Hating us is hardly a temporary fix. That's why you keep coming back. Again , by choice. So sad.

Yes, John is a tool.<... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Yes, John is a tool.

As is Repuke.

Sorry bunch of nihilistic a-holes.

I Love Halliburton!

aRepukelican,You a... (Below threshold)
Rob La La La Ca.:

aRepukelican,

You and your ilk are anethma to right-minded Americans who treasure our great leader, the President, and know what it means to be truly be patriotic. To be a great Patriot, you need to be subservient, you need to trust every move of your government no matter how suspicious it seems, and you need to be so scared of everyone and everything that you'll let your President and his good men do whatever they like because you're pissing in your pants too much from fear to know what's good for you.

I am that kind of Patriot. I am so scared of every little thing I need my daddy the President to protect me. Sometimes I like to jump rope in the nude in front of elder care institutions. Other times I enjoy sticking yodels up my rear while doing an interpretive dance.

Dsouza is right on. As an i... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Dsouza is right on. As an immigrant from a communist country, I also observe that the cultural left is definitely anti-American and is working against this country. The cultural left aided the evil communists during the cold war. Now they are willing to do the propaganda work for Bin Laden and other terrorists around the world.

The liberal left is truly in an intellectual and moral sewage. That has been my conclusion. The liberal posters in this forum are perfect example of such a sewage.

"johnie"SIU? Hmmm- S... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

"johnie"
SIU? Hmmm- State Institute of the Uninformed

Geezie-Peezie!Did ... (Below threshold)
Lugnut:

Geezie-Peezie!

Did this post bring out the spittle flinging lefties or what?!

You know you've hit a nerve when you provoke a response like this.

There is nothing inspiring ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

There is nothing inspiring and much to despise the cultural left. The left has sided with the communists during the cold war and now the terrorists. The left shows more sympathy for the the dictators and tyrants of the world like Saddam, Castro, Admajadin etc... They are willing to sell out the poor/oppressed of the world simply to advance their anti-American ideology. The communists claim to work for the poor and the workers of the world. But we know how hypocritical and evil they are. The liberal left is doing the same thing. They constantly invoke the poor and the oppressed, but they have sided with the oppressors and the butchers.

should not lead one to t... (Below threshold)
Brian:

should not lead one to think that D'Souza is "blaming America",

Of course not. How could anyone think from the title of his book, "The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11", that he blames Americans for 9/11?

or saying that the political Left is "trying to lose" the GWoT.

Of course not. How could anyone think from the title of his book, where he calls the left "the enemy", that he considers them against the GWoT?

is that the Left (more often than not) feels little to no need to consider the broader consequences of its actions, in regards to the things it says it wants.

So you're saying that Americans should worry about what Muslims might think of us when we choose which movie to see, which book to read, what TV show to watch, and who to have sex with? I'll repeat what Colbert asked: What other cultural editing notes should we take from the terrorists?

Democrats drunk on POWER... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Democrats drunk on POWER having an orgy of a time believing they can get away will anything and do whatever , where ever. Like going out to clubs , getting drunk then having unprotected sex and high fiving and bragging to the boys the next day.... That's OK in the minds of the losers because they just blow it off as if it's no big deal. "EVERYBODY DOES IT."

Uh, I got news for you, pal. Everybody DOES do it. It ain't just Democrats. Apparently it's everyone but you.

At least nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, says a new report. And premarital sex isn't new -- the high rates include the sexual habits of women born in the 1940s, challenging the idea that sexual behaviors used to be more restrained.

It's because of Patriotic Americans who have the balls and courage to defend our Country from the treats we now face thanks to the Unpatriotic immoral behavior of the stinking hippies

Yes, thank goodness we have you "patriots" to point out to the rest of us where the terrorists have a valid point that you agree with. It makes it so easier for the rest of us to know which ones of you to ignore.

Yes, and also thank goodnes... (Below threshold)
John:

Yes, and also thank goodness that our wingman Dinesh was the patriot that climbed on top of Ann Coulter for our good, and the good of the country.

It was a vile and shamefull thing, but somebody had to take one for the team. I wonder if that's the immoral behavior he's referring to?

Regardless my friends, that is the mark of a true hero.

Fun to watch the Bushies sc... (Below threshold)
SanFranciscoJim:

Fun to watch the Bushies scream and cry. Get used to losing, you have many years in the wilderness ahead of you.

Hey dummy, ya you SFJIM. ... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Hey dummy, ya you SFJIM. It you and your side coming here to play butt tag , cry and lie. Going on 7 years now. Don't you have any pride? You are still miserable losers and always will be irregardless of what Party wins. Take your misery elsewhere.

Carp in a cuisinart! Mantis... (Below threshold)
PorkSaladSandwich:

Carp in a cuisinart! Mantis and I actually agree on something. How can there be global warming when hell just froze over?

When I said that Dinesh is ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

When I said that Dinesh is blaming America for terrorism I meant it. It's plain and simple, he's said it as clearly as he's going to say it.

It's reprehensible to shift the blame of terrorism onto your political opponents just to try and make a point.

What he fails to cover is why terrorists attack Israel...is that the American cultural left in action again? How about Bali, Russia, Iraq,...are these the fault of Americans as well?

Bullshit.

These people do what they do not because of Brian, or John or Hugh, they do it because they're fanatical zealots.

Dinesh is taking a cheap shot, and the right is falling for it because it blames the left.

With the usual postings lik... (Below threshold)
aRepukelican:

With the usual postings like those above from Rob LA Ca, jhow66 and LoveAmeriKa Enemagrunt, pointing out the absurdity of D'Souza and such like-minded Wizchoir idiots is not even necessary.

The postings of these intellectual giants make it self-evident.

Hey "pukeface" look whose c... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Hey "pukeface" look whose calling the pot black. lol

Holy Mindscrew Batman! D'So... (Below threshold)
PorkSaladSandwich:

Holy Mindscrew Batman! D'Souza has the entire Blame America crowd defending the US and Defend America crowd saying it's our fault we were attacked on 9/11. He must be some kind of Sith Lord or something.

Seriously.... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Seriously.




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