But remember, they swear they really do suport the troops.

Oh no stop the presses! Some rinky dink clerk at some mail order place sends a dumb email, and I am so sure the right wing outrage. sheer outrage I say, will last the rest of the week.

Of course Faux Spews is all over it the story, and the rest of the yappers and attack poodles will follow shortly.

Never mind the entire Iraq war is a clusterfuck of the highest order brought by Republicans, though. Don't get mad at that. Don't get mad at not enough troops being sent. Don't get mad at 10 billion fucking dollars missing in Iraq. Don't get mad about troops not having the gear they need. Don't get mad that Bush had no plan for Iraq.

No, the commentors here understand that the REAL outrage is what some dumbass clerk said to a solider. That's what gets their blood boiling.

Amazing. Now I know what the Nixon dead enders looked like 30 years ago.

No, the commentors here understand that the REAL outrage is what some dumbass clerk said to a solider. That's what gets their blood boiling.

So jackass, are you saying that you don't find this outrageous and insulting (if true)? You can go on about your opinions on Iraq, and I'm sure you are a military expert of the highest order, but seriously, don't you think this response is a bit out of line?

Jak U

Who cares about 10 billion in monopoly money that can be printed up on demand?

The worthless twits response is worthy of people of any sense not shopping there!

Who cares about 10 billion in monopoly money that can be printed up on demand

Uh, that's US taxpayer money, in case you didn't know or were a little slow this afternoon. . That doesn't outrage you one bit, to think that much damn money is just gone in a puff of dust in Iraq?

Yep...certainly more insulting than this

""As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want," Rumsfeld said.

After all we had no time to have more, better equipped forces on the ground because any minute WMD's would be unleashed...

He added, "You can have all the armor in the world on a tank, and it can [still] be blown up."

He said this while our brave troops were riding around in the same Humvees that drive on our highways....

I agree this is action is sickening...but Rummy was so much worse...

Who has more blood of our brave men and women who have been killed in Iraq because of lack of strength and equipment....this nobody...or our former Sec. of Defense...
....by the way if the MSM would quit their BS on what is going wrong in Iraq and give us more stories on the successes I would not have been posting...

nogo, you are clueless, with regards to your rant about Rummy and battlefield armor.

If you have a read of any number of milblogs (you know, written by soldiers who are actually doing the fighting you worry and fret about so much), their take on the armor issue is that it has been so much grandstanding, done by people who do not understand how to conduct urban warfare ops.

The same things have been posted by people here at Wizbang!: a) up the armor, and insurgents up the explosive yield of their IEDs to counter the increased armor; and b) more armor = slower troops = greater chance of getting ambushed.

Now, if you REALLY want to help the troops, nogo, you could always point your tortured syntax at the ballistics evaluation team at SOCOM, who have (so far) panned the use of new "blended metal" 5.56mm bullets in Iraq. These bullets literally explode when they hit human flesh, after they pass through Kevlar like sh*t through a goose. Definitely not for the squeamish, nor for general infantry issue - but to the highest trained professionals who live by the motto:

One shot
One Kill
No Remorse
I decide

Want to read more? Google the phrase, "one butt shot, one kill" and you'll find out about it.

Uh, that's US taxpayer money, in case you didn't know or were a little slow this afternoon. .

Seems likely that Jaku is a net receiver of taxes paid, not much of a payer.

Folks, if you ever want to know why the Dems/MSM say "But I support the troops" while attempting to leave them high-and-dry, this little dust-up is one big reason why. NO ONE wants to be on the receiving end of that sort of outrage.

Possibly the most important story in the world today...what an obscure employee in an obscure company wrote in a letter.

Wanderlust, mass spectrography has shown those rounds to be forensically identical to commercially available varmint ammunition. In other words, LeMas has been taking off the shelf projectiles from regular bullet makers, coating them in moly to make them a different color, and then repackaging them and making outlandish ballistics claims.

They do not back these claims with any sort of accepted ballistic tests, nor does their ammunution perform any differently than the varmint ammo offered behind the counter at Wal-Mart (for example, the .223 45gr JSP Winchester whitebox rounds) They'll go through light steel plate due to their velocity, but that is not at all the same thing as taking on ceramic rifle plates. Literally any .223/5.56 round will go through kevlar.

Try Googling "Stan Bullmer" (LeMas spokesman) and "owned", and you'll see what I mean.

As for the armor - take it from a former servicemember, it's all political bullshit. We got shafted for equipment for years under Clinton, we weren't even allowed to train with the old style flak vests we had. The IBA armor was being rolled out right at the start of the Iraq war. It was the best armor ever fielded by a military to date, and it was about damn time.

As for the humvees, they are not tanks, and they are not an armored fighting platform. They're for moving things and people, and thats what they do. Go to a serious military forum and you'll find discussion not about lack of armor on humvees, but on whether or not it was a good idea in the first place to go motoring through town every once and a while in a vehicle rather than patrol on foot.

Anyhow, back on topic. The reason for the outrage here is that we want the employee canned and the business embarrassed. The 1st Amendment secures your speech from prior restraint by the government -- it does not protect you from the consequences of saying something rude or stupid in a business setting. He expressed his opinion, now we express ours.

Trying to change the subject by pissing and moaning about the war or Fox News or screaming about free speech is typical, not at all unexpected, and rather annoying.