Loathesome, but the usual gang here will defend him.
-=Mike

Jabba the Needler is just one more manifestation of the evil that can be established, let alone tolerated, in a district overwhelmingly dominated by collectivists.

Knowing what we all know about those who chose to work at Ground Zero in the days immediately following 9/11, I doubt one of them was concerned with whether or not OSHA safeguards were in effect. They just wanted to rescue anyone who might still be alive, and then give those who died there a chance to be buried somewhere other than that smoking, rumbling grave the terrorists created in Lower Manhattan.

Nadler should be ashamed. If anyone ever needs a cornerstone for their argument that Democrats have lost their minds, use these words of Nadler's. The debate's over immediately.

Hey, that's my congressman. What a pineapple. Too bad he'll be reelected by the zillions of dems here on the UWS.

Nadler's a nutcase.

But Guiliani is a 9/11 profiteer. Don't have much respect for him.

Yeah, let's postpone the rescue effort for a few months until all the regulatory i's and t's are taken care of. Tell you what: next hurricane that hits N.O., we'll apply that standard.

As usual the ignorance of Priestap (reinforced by the denial that Bush's poll numbers are at Nixonian levels) and the commenters defies imagination. Rather than discuss the issue of the health problems of the workers and rescuers these folks resort to the usual response here - mockery.

I didn't read that Nadler said the rescue effort should have been postponed. The truth is there is a question about how the EPA conducted itself during that period of time. The truth is there are many many workers who have gotten sick and have had claims resisted. Those are the facts. But, of course, the extreme righties twist those facts and conclude that Nadler is deflecting blame from the terrorists. Pathetic. It's been six years and some have gotten no help at all until recently.

Some of you should try enlightening yourselves about the issue. Why, even Fox has some info for you.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/columns/citypolitic/n_9384/

http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2006/09/11/hscout534853.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201034,00.html?sPage=fnc.national/_911

Those are the facts. But, of course, the extreme righties twist those facts and conclude that Nadler is deflecting blame from the terrorists. Pathetic.

You simply have NO reading comprehension skills...

"The villains are no longer the terrorists," Nadler said yesterday at a news conference in Washington.

"The villains live in the White House and in Gracie Mansion, or at least lived in Gracie Mansion in the last administration, and in the governor's office."

Too easy.

For a Pres. to have such low approval rating how is it that over 40+ million were tuned in sotu

LJD

In the context of failing to care for the medical problems of course the responsibility TODAY lies with those Nadler has listed. Geez. I suppose you think we should ask the terrorists for the medical care? And they, of course, would be willing to provide it. But then I imagine you think killing terrorists would solve the medical problems.

"And they, of course, would be willing to provide it."

Gosh, why didn't we think of that? Let's just pile everyone onto a convoy of 747's and fly them to Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Lebanon.

Forward this immediately to Jerry Nadler. Problem solved!

Unless, of course, Osama is still too busy building roads and schools and day care centers and won't be able to divert enough funds toward health care. Then maybe we could just send everyone to Cuba for real "world-class" healthcare.

I am currently a health care provider for 3 people who worked on the pile. All of which have been diagnosed with some type of cancer since working on the pile.

I have been impressed by the thoroughness of the tests run as "screening exams" on the exit physical for the workers and the followup exams.

So for some politician to make this kind of statement is just ignorant.

Hugh,

While the workers would seem to have some legitimate claims about health problems, Nadler deserves to be derided and ridiculed for his outlandish analogies.

You completely misrepresent LJD's point (especially with your idiotic "have the terrorists pay for their healthcare" jibe) and give Nadler a pass because you feel his statement's attempt to rectify a wrong.

And denying the poll numbers is easy when you look at the specifics of those who were questioned. Most of today's polls are absolutely meaningless.

J.R.

You posit that the workers "would seem to have some legitimate claims..." and then go on to condemn Nadler. You are aware., I'm sure, that this is in his home district and that he is intimately aware of the history of the illnesses and the EPA's attempted coverup? You are aware, I'm sure, that Republican Congressman Fossella joined him in a press release in which they said:

"The agency and this administration are callously turning a blind eye to the victims of 9-11 by offering a flawed, inadequate, scientifically unsound plan to decontaminate the area. Their new plan is not comprehensive and does nothing to protect people from harmful exposure to World Trade Center-related dust and debris - it is a slap in the face to all who live, work and go to school in Lower Manhattan..."

The facts are clear....these folks were abandoned and still are being inadequately cared for. It's indefensible to give a pass to New York and the EPA and Bush. So of course lets condemn Nadler.

As for polls, I notice that righties believe them when they're good and deride them when they're bad.

Stop changing the subject Hugh. This is about some lame ass shooting his mouth off for political gain. When he is called on his words, you just shift back to debating "the problem". Is Nadler just too stupid to get his point across without shoving his foot deep in mouth?

As for you... your words are that the "extreme righties" are somehow deflecting this issue, but it is Nadler's own words quoted here, that seem to point in that direction. You are so blinded by your ideology that you don't even realize the substance of what was said.

Do the workers deserve adequate care? Yes, but not the subject of this post.

Did Nadler (and you) go way overboard with his comments? Yes, undoubtedly.

Should the 9-11 cleanup have been sent to committee and handled in the traditional self-serving and innefficient dumb-o-crat way? Hell no.

The point here is the repeated self serving political statements by the dhimmies, tearing apart our country in a time of war. We hear you loud and clear: We are our own worst enemies. Well, I don't agree at all. Maybe if you wentto Canada you would feel better.

Hugh, like all other lefties, just bitch up a storm about everything. No solutions, no reasonable alternative policies, just bitch, bitch, bitch. Children, spoiled children.

What's Nadler's solution, eh? Bitch, bitch, bitch. And maybe have another sandwich or three.

You posit that the workers "would seem to have some legitimate claims..." and then go on to condemn Nadler.

No Hugh, I condemned his idiotic and inflammatory analogies. Do you make a habit of mis-represeting everyone's point?

Hugh, let me give some advice so you can be taken seriously next time. All you would have to say is, "Nadler was wrong to make these comments, they were stupid and don't add anything to the plight of the workers he is trying to assist." Then go on and make your case. But instead you choose to attack "the righties" because that is all your partisan mind can come up with.

Well, I have to thank Hugh et al for proving my first comment correct.
-=Mike

Your damn right I'll defend him. The problem TODAY in lower manhattan is not terrorists. The problem today is the disgraceful action of the federal, municipal and state government in new York. The "villains are no longer the terrorists"....he couldn't be more right on. I agree with him J.R. and I could care less whether you sit in judgment of how seriously I may or may not be taken.

Since when have you the righties gotten so damn sensitive about language?

Of course you don't want to talk about the underlying problem. It's indefensibe. What many of you love to do is attack the messenger. That's a favorite weapon of the right. It's really pathetic folks.

To all you commenters that want to blame someone else for your own and others stupidity I would suggest you actually do you homework. Police and firemen at ground zero refused to wear the protective gear. REFUSED TO ... Gulianni should have kicked them off the site but knuckled under to the "band of brothers" who would have rioted had he done so.

Nearly every rescue worker dying of lung related diseases from ground zero killed himself thru stupidity. Heroic stupidity yes, but THEY choose the risk, now they are paying the piper. They are not victims here. They all have the best health care in the US available to them. If they die its not because nobody spent money on their care. If they got sick its not because they were not warned of the dangers. They knew the dangers and chose to be there anyway, often without using any of the protective gear offered to them by the city and the feds.

I smoke, are you folks gonna cry about my pain and suffering if/when I get lung cancer ?
Yeah, I didn't think so ...
Good, because if I get sick ITS MY OWN FAULT ... man it sucks to have to be responsible for your actions ...

I agree with Nadler, I believe Rudy COVERED UP ALOT of stuff that happened surrounding the events of Sept. 11.

The rescue workers, the rescue dogs and citizens are begging for the Money that was promised to them from the get go.

Rudy G. is an evil co-conspirator.
Christine Todd Whitman LIED on Sept. 17, saying the air was safe, SAFE ENOUGH for the STOCK MARKET TO OPEN.

They just don't want to take care of the Health of the Rescue workers, like they don't want to take care of the Health of Iraq War Vets, American's NOT covered by insurance.

Please, with this ultra-sensitive shock to call Guilani and Bushco
WHAT THEY ARE. They ARE the terrorists to the world and this country.

I applaud Nadler, just for speaking truth to power. We need more thinking congress-critters like him.

Call and say it for what it is.

Jerome herpe lips Nadler needs to have His head examined! Too late its terminal.

Above said:

"To all you commenters that want to blame someone else for your own and others stupidity I would suggest you actually do you homework. Police and firemen at ground zero refused to wear the protective gear. REFUSED TO ... Gulianni should have kicked them off the site but knuckled under to the "band of brothers" who would have rioted had he done so."

From the MSNBC - Francesca Lyman

Mayor Rudolph Guiliani appeared to believe the EPA's statement and went so far as to stand next to then-EPA administrator Christie Whitman and announce that the air was safe.

When you have someone of the caliber of Mayor Guiliani AND the head of the EPA, saying it, they took that as gospel.

Remember the same government that lied about the Air quality, lied about Iraq's link to 9/11, about WMD, about Mission Accomplished, White Phosphorus, torture, 19 arab highjackers etc. what WON"t they lie about?

Now now "hughie" slow down a little. You are getting dumber with each post.

Remember the same government that lied about the Air quality, lied about Iraq's link to 9/11, about WMD, about Mission Accomplished, White Phosphorus, torture, 19 arab highjackers etc. what WON"t they lie about?

That's quite a list Dixie, all bogus, misleading, and false. But don't let that stop you.

I just love seeing the leftist talking points repeated here yet again. Hugh and Wet Noodle, are you actually real people, or are you bots of some sort?

Congressman Nadler is RIGHT ON!
The health protections at Ground Zero were Appalling, which is why so many are dying and sick now!