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Monday Night "24" Thread -- What is the Deal With Jack's Dad ?

At the "24" website, there is a poll up asking viewers:

Do you think Jack's dad Phillip is a bad guy?

  • Yes, he's in cahoots with Graem and faking.
  • No, he didn't know what Graem was up to.
I don't know whether he is or not. What I want to know is whether or not I am the only person unfamiliar with that particular spelling of Jack's brother's name.


Program note: Next week (Feb. 12) there are two back-to-back (they call them "Jack-to-Jack") episodes.

Update: Did anyone else find the following line from next week's preview of "24" really disturbing?

President Palmer: "Just one more nuke goes off, we're talkin' about war."
What? Just one more nuke? Maybe the evil Vice President does need to step up and take out Palmer. I guess I will withhold judgment until next week. Maybe the line was completely out of context, but it was pretty amazing as a stand alone.


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Comments (61)

Lorie,That's how t... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

Lorie,

That's how they spell his name on closed captioning.

The more I read about this ... (Below threshold)
Langtry:

The more I read about this season of "24", the more I am thinking they are all watching "Prison Break".

After all, wasn't one of the primary stary arcs of the first half of this season about the role of Philip & Michael's CIA Dad & whether or not he was a Good Guy or a Bad Guy?

I don't think Jack's dad kn... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

I don't think Jack's dad knows exactly what's going on.

I am watching Prison Break ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I am watching Prison Break and this has to be one of my favorite episodes. I loved the diner scene. That was cool. I loved when Sara tried to kill Kellerman and even liked the fact that they let Sara and Michael kiss. I don't like the mushy stuff when Jack Bauer does it, but for some reason it does't bother me on Prison Break.

On Prison Break they just r... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

On Prison Break they just referred to the insane guy, Haywire, as a "wingnut".

I liked it when Sara tried ... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

I liked it when Sara tried to kill Kellerman, too! You go, girl! Don't mess with Sara! And I liked the smooching, too!

Karen's dead.... (Below threshold)
Ian:

Karen's dead.

It was all for Jack!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

It was all for Jack!

Oops. Dad shot that guy. ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Oops. Dad shot that guy. I think he is a bad guy too.

Set up a perimeter!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Set up a perimeter!

Ah, maybe Dad is not a bad ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Ah, maybe Dad is not a bad guy afterall.

I was hoping Babe the pig would make an appearance. If they could have the cougar, then why not?

Who is that chick playing R... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Who is that chick playing Rita? I know her from somewhere, but can't put my finger on it.

Now that you mention it, sh... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Now that you mention it, she does look familiar, but I can't place her, either.

Over at Dave BArry's, they're very excited about setting up a perimeter already AND a "dammit" from Jack!

Ooooo, so THAT'S what he's ... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Ooooo, so THAT'S what he's going to do to Graeme!

He's not your dad, Josh. <... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

He's not your dad, Josh.

Come on... tell him Josh is... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Come on... tell him Josh is his son.

"I've seen what happens whe... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

"I've seen what happens when you try to protect people." She noticed, too, huh?

Josh looks a little like Ri... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Josh looks a little like Ricky Schroder. Maybe he will end up being Jack's son, too, when he finally comes on the scene.

Now there's a thought. But... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Now there's a thought. But how old IS Ricky Schroeder by now?

He panicked! I am not sure... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

He panicked! I am not sure how to spell panicked, but I am sure that is the lamest excuse for being part of a nuclear bomb explosion ever. Graem is hating life right now.

I think evil brother might ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I think evil brother might be lying to protect Dad.

oooo, ya think? Maybe so. ... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

oooo, ya think? Maybe so. But Dad's standing there watching what's going on. That would be pretty cold if Graeme is taking the fall for dad.

I am not buying this. Dad ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I am not buying this. Dad is too calm.

re: morris and his brother.... (Below threshold)
brent j.:

re: morris and his brother.

ummm.....anyone remember them doing that EXACT storyline in season 3 with computer adam?

Yeah - but I don't see Grae... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Yeah - but I don't see Graeme as being strong enough to take the fall for anybody.

I thought that Morris plotl... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I thought that Morris plotline seemed familiar. "24" reminds me of Murder She Wrote. On MSW, someone near Jessica Fletcher always wound up dead. On "24" anything that can go wrong in anyone's life picks that one day to do it.

I noticed the same thing. G... (Below threshold)

I noticed the same thing. Graem confesses that he killed President David Palmer as well as the other CTU folks and then tried to frame and kill Jack. Their dad hears this all and has no reaction at all?

Dad's is involved in something here.

GRAEME KILLED TONY ALMEDA!!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

GRAEME KILLED TONY ALMEDA!!!!!!!

Give me a break!--"you dese... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Give me a break!--"you deserved a better family, Jack."

Uh, oh, "give me a few minutes." You know what's going to happen now. (I think)

Is dad now going to try to ... (Below threshold)

Is dad now going to try to kill Jack and break out brother?

I think Dad's going to kill... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

I think Dad's going to kill himself.

The Pres has a spine!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

The Pres has a spine!

What is this with Evil Vice... (Below threshold)

What is this with Evil Vice Presidents in the 24 Universe?

Tony is NOT dead! I will n... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Tony is NOT dead! I will not give up hope. Tony is going to reappear one of these seasons. His death was just too lame and pointless. He has to be alive.

MOrris is the engineer!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

MOrris is the engineer!

Morris is the engineer!... (Below threshold)

Morris is the engineer!

I wonder if he is an evil D... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I wonder if he is an evil Democrat or an evil Republican? Did Palmer pick a Republican VP?

Oh no!! Not Morris! Chloe ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Oh no!! Not Morris! Chloe is going to kick butt now!

Go Chloe! Hurry. There is... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Go Chloe! Hurry. There is no time.

Dad's going to speak to Gra... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Dad's going to speak to Graeme.

You're doing great.

Graeme IS tough.

Dad's bad.

I knew it! Dad is dirty. ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I knew it! Dad is dirty. Jack is going to have to kill his brother and his dad before this is all over with, but possibly not all in this season.

Graeme's toast.... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Graeme's toast.

Dad is going to kill Graem!... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

Dad is going to kill Graem!

Will dad kill Graem? Yep!</... (Below threshold)

Will dad kill Graem? Yep!

Jack won't have to kill Gra... (Below threshold)

Jack won't have to kill Graeme > Dad did. Marilyn's a widow now. Dad's trying to blame it on CTU.

If this was CSI they would ... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

If this was CSI they would be able to immediately identify Dad's fingerprints on Graem's mouth and on the syringe. Jack will smell this one. No way he is going to buy this.

Jack DOES deserve a better ... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

Jack DOES deserve a better family!

Jack has such a twisted fam... (Below threshold)

Jack has such a twisted family. And his dad is a psychopath.

2 hours next week!... (Below threshold)
pjaykc:

2 hours next week!

Argh! I don't want to wait ... (Below threshold)

Argh! I don't want to wait another week!

Rita is <a href="http://www... (Below threshold)

Rita is Missy Crider - She was in that paranormal TV series The Others and she was the waitress in Mulholland Drive

Tony is NOT dead! I will no... (Below threshold)

Tony is NOT dead! I will not give up hope. Tony is going to reappear one of these seasons. His death was just too lame and pointless. He has to be alive.

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Keep hope alive Lorie! I believe it too. Tony will be back.

I completely forgot that wi... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

I completely forgot that with Graem dead the mother of Jack's son will be a widow! Good catch kimsc, and thanks for the info on Rita. Next week, different bat time, but same bat channel.

To those who are wondering ... (Below threshold)
Standlow:

To those who are wondering where they have seen Jack's brother's wife, she is Rena Sofel, who played the wife of the lead character in Blind Justice.

Lorie, it should have been ... (Below threshold)

Lorie, it should have been kimsch - I mistyped and forgot the h... 2 hours next week. yippee!

Standlow. Sofer. She was al... (Below threshold)

Standlow. Sofer. She was also Lois on General Hospital and she's the Heidi Petrelli on Heroes too.

kimsch, I knew it wa... (Below threshold)
Lorie:

kimsch,
I knew it was you and thought the name didn't look quite right, but didn't realize it was because your "h" was missing.

When I was a little girl my mom took me to see Tony Orlando and Dawn in concert. The tv show was really popular back then and one of his sidekicks, half of "Dawn," was Telma Hopkins. I remember her saying that it should have been Thelma, but when she was born her mom said to get the "h" out of there. I never forgot that for some reason. I am glad your "h" is back. I am sorry I left it out too.

That's okay Lorie. I can't ... (Below threshold)

That's okay Lorie. I can't believe I forgot it to begin with... I'm just tired I guess. I had been trying to figure out who Rita was too, on the 24 IMDb page she was listed as Sue. She kind of reminds me of Tiff on The Unit as well, just a bit.

Hopefully they will get prints off the IV, the syringe and use some super glue to get prints off Graem's face. Spelling his name that way makes his nickname of Gray a little logical...

Tonite was much better than... (Below threshold)
Steph:

Tonite was much better than last week, I thought. I'm excited to see which way Morris goes with Fayed.

Plenty of PC pap about "mar... (Below threshold)
JB:

Plenty of PC pap about "marginalizing" the Muslim community, who are our "best friends."

Same ole "evil white men" bullsh*t we've come to expect from 24, one terrorist villain notwithstanding.

A good episode, however, I ... (Below threshold)
jbwbubba:

A good episode, however, I saw the Morris's brother angle was a trick from the start and figured that Jack's Dad would kill Graem. Between Graem and his father, who would have thought that Jack was the gentle one in his family? Did Graem really think he was going to confess to killing a former President, multiple other people and by extension having a hand in the terrorists attacks of last season and he would get out of prison in the future. Also, how incredibly stupid is President 'I'm not my brother' a nuke went off a couple of hours ago other multiple terrorist attacks have happened and he calls a cabinet meeting to announce he isn't going to do anything! Fine if you don't want to go with the executive order, don't do it; but don't take everyone away from their jobs just to give a speech and keep the status quo.




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