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Rep. Keith Ellison's Office Calls Cops on Tancredo

Freshman Democrat Congressman Keith Ellison's press secretary called the cops on Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo for smoking a cigar in his own office. From The Hill:

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) believes it is his right as a Muslim to be sworn into Congress with the Quran. But apparently, the freshman lawmaker doesn't believe it's Rep. Tom Tancredo's (R-Colo.) right to smoke a cigar in his congressional office.


Ellison's office called the Capitol Hill Police on Tancredo last Wednesday night as Tancredo was in his office smoking a cigar. The lawmakers have neighboring offices on the first floor of the Longworth House Office Building.

Tancredo was still stunned a day later. "It's very bizarre," said Tancredo, who has never met Ellison. "Seemed to me not a good way to say hello."

And let's face it. Calling the cops on a colleague takes the cake for the nerviest behavior so far among members of this year's freshman class of Congress.

This is how it all went down. On Wednesday evening, around 6 p.m., Tancredo was preparing for his trip to Mississippi. And as he so often does, he was unwinding with a cigar.

Soon enough, however, a police officer walked in to check on the smoke. The officer told Tancredo that the officer came because he was required to do so and not because the officer wanted to. The officer had already told Ellison that Tancredo was permitted to smoke in his office. The visit was more a formality.

Tancredo said he would not stop smoking in his office. "Heck, no!" he said. "If he [Ellison] would have [had] the courtesy to say something I'm sure I would have been more accommodating to his wishes."

Congressman Ellison's press secretary got his knickers in a wad over cigar smoke? What's wrong with cigar smoke? I love cigar smoke, especially when I'm the one smoking the cigar.


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Comments (70)

How hard do you think it wo... (Below threshold)
John S:

How hard do you think it would be for Tancredo to get Ellison placed on the terrorism no-fly list? A kind of get-to-know-you practical joke.

Now there's a press secreta... (Below threshold)

Now there's a press secretary who dsperately needs a lesson in crisis management.

Gee, liberals are so diplom... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Gee, liberals are so diplomatic, aren't they? I thought they liked to "talk things out" and only take actions as a last resort.

Hmmm...

The whole thing sounds kind... (Below threshold)
LiberalNightmare:

The whole thing sounds kinda unilateral too, do you think he took time to get the international opinion before he started his police action?

Smellison should get that B... (Below threshold)
914:

Smellison should get that Burka out of His a-hole! the f-n stupid fuc..

Democrats are unfit t... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Democrats are unfit to run this Country. They are criminal frauds made up of activist groups , Racists , Anti-American Socialists and lunatics.

In their thirst for absolute power democrats have patented the terms "Martian Caucus" " Non Earth Born Caucus" "Solar Systems for Democrats Caucus" and quietly deny the existence "Dead Voting Americans Caucus" , "Toons for Crats Caucus" and the "Double voting democrat voter caucus caucus".

Al gore has started his own "Global Warming But Buuurrr!! it's damn cold Caucus"

Tom Tancredo, one of my two... (Below threshold)

Tom Tancredo, one of my two hopefuls for President in 2008. Guess who the other one is?

Now Kim, I didn't know you ... (Below threshold)

Now Kim, I didn't know you smoked cigars. Brings certain images to mind...

Now wait, I thought liberal congressman got their panties in a tighter wad when The Executive AND Judicial branches raided William Jefferson's office finding massive amounts of CA$H in his freezer...meanwhile, this douche thinks Cops have jurisdiction here where the FBI doesn't? I don't get it...(meanwhile it DOES just say his press secretary, not that he himself called...either he's too cowardly to do it himself, or his press secretary got his/her panties in a wad).

Note to Ellison:Bewa... (Below threshold)

Note to Ellison:
Beware the lunch menu, specifically the "Sandwich" section, when ordering with Senators Dodd and Kennedy.

hmmm....... (Below threshold)
Lee:

hmmm....

Tancredo said he would not stop smoking in his office. "Heck, no!" he said. "If he [Ellison] would have [had] the courtesy to say something I'm sure I would have been more accommodating to his wishes."

Those damn islamofacist Congressmen -- always out to get Widdle Wepubbies....

Trancedo would have been accommodating if something had been said previously? Riiiiiight. According to Ellison's press secretary, Rick Jauert there had been previous complaints.

Ellison's press secretary, Rick Jauert, made the call to the Superintendent's office when he noticed the smoke. [snip]

Jauert said he then informed his boss what he had done. He said "fine," Jauert said. "He's complained of the smoke before."

Someebody's blowing smoke... and it looks like it's the Congressman with the phallic symbol in his mouth doing the... erhhh, blowing.

Gotta love Tancredo! Let's ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Gotta love Tancredo! Let's get a Wave going!... Stanford Matthews: Ron Paul?...Wizbangblog.com: Can we dump the Chimp NOW? (Today is the first day of the rest of your lives!) Or is this NOT a "Tancredo" post, but a "Ellison, the Muslim Democrat" post? (Don't speak, I know the answer!)

Wow, keep posting these ina... (Below threshold)
jaku:

Wow, keep posting these inane stories about Democrats. Please, just keep doing it. Whatever you do, don't lose focus! These are very important stories you are doing here, and your loyal readership needs to know these things.

It will help you win a majority in 2008 again, really it will.

Lucky for Bill Clinton that... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Lucky for Bill Clinton that Ellison wasn't in town during his cigar sessions.

Ahem.The Left's cu... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Ahem.

The Left's current hero Obama is a cigarette smoker, perhaps one of the most evil things in the (Leftist) world.

Just sayin', you know.

Thank you for this post..Am... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Thank you for this post..America does not understand the smoking ban on smoking here in Colorado was passed by those Islamo folks forcing their non-smoking beliefs upon true Americans...
Thank our God..not theirs...that all true Americans smoke and oppose those who try and say feeble things..like "it causes cancer" or even worse forget only true Americans can ask that non-smoking laws/rules be enforced...I know all here have no problem with smokers where they eat..and would never ask that no smoking be enforced...

Thank our God..not their... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Thank our God..not theirs...that all true Americans smoke and oppose those who try and say feeble things..like "it causes cancer" or even worse forget only true Americans can ask that non-smoking laws/rules be enforced...I know all here have no problem with smokers where they eat..and would never ask that no smoking be enforced...

1. Lots of things cause cancer, we haven't banned them all yet.

2. Congress often excempts themselves from the very laws they shove down the rest of the country, so I'm not surprised at this.

3. If you are going to snark, make your paragraphs more readable, and get the "full stop" button on your keyboard fixed. Thanks.

A couple of things...... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

A couple of things...
His car is his car...and he can smoke when he wants...
His house is his house and the same should apply..
His Office? ah..it ain't his..it's ours...and of course you are aware there is no smoking in public buildings...that is why you see smokers outside...
Cheap shot..you bet..but as someone from Colorado I can tell you Tom T. preaches "law and order" on his position concerning immigration.

I find it interesting that ... (Below threshold)

I find it interesting that the lib cockroaches that always come here, always seem to have the peculiar habit of wanting to tell the purveyors of Wizbang what *they* think this blog should be doing. How typical. Lee, nogo and whomever else you sock-puppets can wrangle together...why don't you scrubs start your own blog?

I blame this incident on Al... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

I blame this incident on Algore. Remember him, the tobacco "farmer" who tilled the soil, planted the seeds, harvested the leaves, hung them in the barn to dry....yada yada? And for added gore-blame, doesn't smoking that noxious stuff contribute to global warming?

At least Clinton didn't first light his cigars (much to the relief of Miss Monica).

Now nogo, don't go projecti... (Below threshold)
Tony:

Now nogo, don't go projecting your dislike of people not like you upon other people not like you that you also dislike...

And seriously, is it too hard to go over and ask him to shut his door? It's not like the next office over is in a different building, it's the next office over! That press secretary, strangely, knows little about good PR.

Quick quiz...What is Tancre... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Quick quiz...What is Tancredo's religion? ..
If you want to bring out a cheap shot by a rookie that is fine..but of course you bring up his religion..so it is not the message..but the messenger..
Tancredo in 08? Why not?...

A couple of things...</i... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

A couple of things...

Someone cannot count to two, apparently.

His Office? ah..it ain't his..it's ours...and of course you are aware there is no smoking in public buildings...that is why you see smokers outside...

Only until Pelosi recently banned it, you could smoke in the Congressional building public sections-in designated areas, however they are still friee to smoke in their own offices:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242820,00.html

it ain't his..it's ours...

Then where is my rent cheque?

Jaku"Wow, keep... (Below threshold)

Jaku
"Wow, keep posting these inane stories about Democrats. Please, just keep doing it."

Wow, jaku, why don't you keep your lying, libeling garbage can off an a** off this blog.

Last night you libeled and slandered Bill Donohue. You are not to be taken seriously on any subject because you simply have not earned it. Rather, you've forfeited it.

Go somewhere else.

"His Office? ah..it ain... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"His Office? ah..it ain't his..it's ours..."

Big difference between someone who blows smoke and someone who gets Blown right Nogo?

Nogo, who exactly are you r... (Below threshold)

Nogo, who exactly are you ranting at? Doesn't look Kim brought up his religion at all.

"Trancedo (sic) would have ... (Below threshold)
BorgQueen:

"Trancedo (sic) would have been accommodating if something had been said previously? Riiiiiight. According to Ellison's press secretary, Rick Jauert there had been previous complaints."

Yeah, Lee, but where is it quoted that those complaints were made to anyone in particular?

"Jauert said he then informed his boss what he had done. He said "fine," Jauert said. "He's complained of the smoke before." That doesn't give any information other than someone complained to someone else about it. Could very likely been Ellison complaining to Jauert and nothing more.

So, the press secretary made the call after noticing smoke? Two scenarios come to mind:

1) He noticed smoke, thought there was a fire, and called the cops. Did he bother to go to the offices in the vicinity to see if anyone else was about, possibly trapped in a fire/smoke filled office?

2) He noticed smoke, either assumed it was Tancredo and his cigar or knew it was cigar smoke from the distinctive odor, and called the cops. Didn't bother to go to speak to Tancredo in person.

Either way, an arrogant s.o.b. making a smarmy move and Ellison condoned it.

I'm glad I don't live in Minnesota.

What was Tancredo thinking?... (Below threshold)
Jo:

What was Tancredo thinking? Doesn't he know you're not allowed to do just anything you want in "the people's offices." ??

Unless of course you want to perform a little oral sex and cigar olympics. Then it becomes Clintons office and Clintons business.

Oh liberals. You so funny.

Quick quiz...What is Tan... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Quick quiz...What is Tancredo's religion?

Quick! Tell me the procedure for changing the inclination of a orbiting body to match a second orbiting body.

Because that is about the same amount of relevance to the topic at hand. You've mastered dicto simpliciter, working on the non-sequitur now, I see.

The Left's current hero ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

The Left's current hero Obama is a cigarette smoker, perhaps one of the most evil things in the (Leftist) world.

Ahem. I'm on the left and I smoke. It's not evil. But considering the weather here in Chicago lately, it's not good either.

I was a smoker for most of ... (Below threshold)
John:

I was a smoker for most of my adult life. And cigars? Love 'em... LOOOOOVE 'EM. My favorites aren't available in stores, just through a friend from Puerto Rico who apprenticed as a child with "The Old Man" who cures and rolls them by hand in the jungle. Unlike most cigars, they BOTH smell good to the other people in the room, and taste good to the smoker. Damn, I love those...

In quitting cigs, I used to try the no cigs, just cigars route, but who has 30 minuites to stand outside to get a fix? Cigs are cheap and fast... Couple of days later, I would be back buying Cowboy Killers (my fave).... Some people can start and stop, or smoke one or two a day. I finaly quit a year ago, but I have an all or nothing attitude about tobacco. Best to leave it alone, for me.

Anyway, I love a cigar. And I know what it's like to smoke. I don't hold it against people.

Anyway, when I first started working professionaly, we used to be able to smoke at our desks. I remember when I first ran into the smoke free buildings doing a consulting stint in Oregon about 19 years ago. I had never seen such a thing, to be standing out on the curb like a dog.

Over the intervening time, all offices, airports, airplanes, elevators, etc, etc, etc, I've seen go smoke free.

On the Left Coast here, bars and resturants are smoke free, as are all other public places. Hey, beer and cigs go together like potato chips and salt. That ban hurt the most...

Here's my point phrased as a question;

Laws were passed to eliminate smoking in public places, government offices, private businesses, etc... EXCEPT... Congress?!?!

So everybody else has to take it outside, but a congressman can sit on their leather couch with their feet on the desk, and light up a big stogie? But only them. Because it's not good for us.

Why does that excemption exist?

So everybody else has to... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

So everybody else has to take it outside, but a congressman can sit on their leather couch with their feet on the desk, and light up a big stogie? But only them. Because it's not good for us.
Why does that excemption exist?

I should think that patently obvious, John.

Tom Tancredo, one of my ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Tom Tancredo, one of my two hopefuls for President in 2008. Guess who the other one is?

David Duke?

Ahem. I'm on the left an... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Ahem. I'm on the left and I smoke. It's not evil.

I was being facetious, of course. I smoke as well.

Though bryanD apparently is concerned whether I'm smoking Marlboros or the baloney pony. I think he is trying to hit on me or something.

James Cloninger writes;... (Below threshold)
John:

James Cloninger writes;

Quick quiz...What is Tancredo's religion?

Quick! Tell me the procedure for changing the inclination of a orbiting body to match a second orbiting body.

Because that is about the same amount of relevance to the topic at hand. You've mastered dicto simpliciter, working on the non-sequitur now, I see.

James, don't be thick. You know Nogo's point. The first line of the lead story starts off with this point.

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) believes it is his right as a Muslim to be sworn into Congress with the Quran.

THAT'S how this started. That's the point. You're not stupid.

What if we started a story off with;

"Congressman Everyman, an Evangelical Christan who believes Jesus will return to earth with a flaming sword, today introduced legislation to create a new federal designation for cheddar cheese."

I was being facetious, o... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I was being facetious, of course.

Oh I know, but it was a good excuse to bitch about the weather here.

mantis,The CTA's '... (Below threshold)
Tony:

mantis,

The CTA's 'slow zones' aren't helping either...the whole darn thing is a giant 'slow zone'.

For the uninitiated, they don't repair tracks here in Chicago. Instead the CTA creates 'slow zones' in areas that will be prone to derailments from poor infrastructure. As a pleasant result, a person can now literally jog to the loop faster than the L will take you. Granted, not in this crap weather. But the trains run literally 6 miles per hour until you hit the Loop. It sucks. My bet is they'll fix it just before it's faster to get there by car, which defeats the point of working in the Loop in the first place.

James writes;<blockqu... (Below threshold)
John:

James writes;

I should think that patently obvious, John.

I think we could ask several people and get different opinions. In this case, why do you think this has occured?

Quick! Tell me the proce... (Below threshold)
DSkinner:

Quick! Tell me the procedure for changing the inclination of a orbiting body to match a second orbiting body.

Inclination changes are extremely expensive energy-wise. Delta V = 2*V*sin(alpha/2). If all the fuel aboard the shuttle was used for a plane change, the orbit inclination could only be changed three degrees.

Inclination changes are ... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Inclination changes are extremely expensive energy-wise. Delta V = 2*V*sin(alpha/2). If all the fuel aboard the shuttle was used for a plane change, the orbit inclination could only be changed three degrees.

But you didn't answer the question, DSkinner. :) You just explained basically why the Shuttle is limited to certain inclinations.

I think we could ask several people and get different opinions. In this case, why do you think this has occured?

Because those in power get to set their own rules. They write the laws after all, therefore, they get to write the excemptions to said laws. Doesn't make it right, but there you go.

What if we started a story off with;
"Congressman Everyman, an Evangelical Christan who believes Jesus will return to earth with a flaming sword, today introduced legislation to create a new federal designation for cheddar cheese."

--which in no way is similar to the opening paragraph from The Hill, which apparently is trying to make the point "My rights are sacrosanct, yours aren't". Your example doesn't follow this. It also wouldn't be the first time a news lede introduced irrelevant information about a person, especially if that person was a Republican or conservative (usually proclaimed "arch-conservative", yet I never hear "arch-liberal" applied to such people in the news.)

BryanD though is hoping I am "thick", if you know what I mean.

Just another childish act b... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Just another childish act by a dhimmi. More proof that they were all reared as spoiled brats or are now mentally retarded, and not mildly. Someone please name the adult dhimmi in congress. I don't think there is one.

Moynahan...oh, sorry, he's ... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Moynahan...oh, sorry, he's dead now. And New York is poorer for it.

Inclination cha... (Below threshold)
DSkinner:
Inclination changes are extremely expensive energy-wise. Delta V = 2*V*sin(alpha/2). If all the fuel aboard the shuttle was used for a plane change, the orbit inclination could only be changed three degrees.

But you didn't answer the question, DSkinner. :) You just explained basically why the Shuttle is limited to certain inclinations.

I can't remember how to do the change off the top of my head, I'd have to get out my notes. I just remember it being terribly expensive. :)

James,You said "Be... (Below threshold)
John:

James,

You said "Because those in power get to set their own rules. They write the laws after all, therefore, they get to write the excemptions to said laws."

Surely, you are not a libertarian. Or a believer that if Government would only get out of the way, business would do what's in everybody's best interest through the "invisible hand", or the pressure of the market place? And everything would be better?

Burn anti-normal at the asc... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Burn anti-normal at the ascending node, and normal to the plane at descending node. :) And it is terribly expensive, which is why you burn at the nodes.

Same logic for burning at apoapsis and periapsis for orbit size changes.

(Note to the trolls: this is astrophysics we are discussing, unfortunately Bush has no control over Keplerian and Newtonian laws, so you cannot blame him for this.)

Same logic for burning a... (Below threshold)
DSkinner:

Same logic for burning at apoapsis and periapsis for orbit size changes.

Good ole Hohmann transfers.

Surely, you are not a li... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Surely, you are not a libertarian. Or a believer that if Government would only get out of the way, business would do what's in everybody's best interest through the "invisible hand", or the pressure of the market place? And everything would be better?

I never said it was good, just answered why Congress gets excempt from laws and regulations that the rest of us must bear. There was no deep philosophical point to it.

As for libertarian...well, I do think Congress tends to micromanage way too much of our lives and should butt out of many things that the states can take care of. Small "l", sort of.

I don't pidgeon-hole very neatly in the politcal ranks, I'm afraid.

Tancredo SHOULD be able to ... (Below threshold)
M Toulouse:

Tancredo SHOULD be able to smoke a cigar in his office wo/ Ellison being so controlling and calling eh police, as if he runs the place. (not)
How ridiculous and scary that the "Muslim" Ellison did that! I cant believe the immaturity and audacity o Ellison. And though we are in the USA with freedom of speech, and probably too worried about being politically correct to a fault, I dont think he should have been sworn in with the koran. What has he got to offer as a congressman for the USA?

BorgQueen beat me to it but... (Below threshold)
marc:

BorgQueen beat me to it but Lee still hasn't trolled thru to answer it.

So Lee why do you think this non-specific quote (Jauert said he then informed his boss what he had done. He said "fine," Jauert said. "He's complained of the smoke before.") means Ellison has complained to Tancredo previously?

It's just as possible the complaints never left his office door and Ellison and Jauert kept them to themselves isn't it?

I'm a dem. I have no probl... (Below threshold)
jpe:

I'm a dem. I have no problems noting that this is a time when all people of good faith that aren't asses should say about Ellison's staffer: what a dick.

"It's just as possible t... (Below threshold)
Lee while laughing hysterically:

"It's just as possible the complaints never left his office door and Ellison and Jauert kept them to themselves isn't it?"

Hey, I wouldn't put anything past those Islamofacists. He probably complained to Osama binLaden.

Or it's just as possible that Trancredo was drunk and forgot that Ellison complained, or that he didn't care that Ellison had complained before. and lied about it this time, like a good Republican.

That would explain why it was necessary to call the police the second time - because the pompous ass Trancredo had no plans to curtail his cigars, even though there had been a previous complaint.

James Cloninger: "I don't p... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

James Cloninger: "I don't pidgeon-hole very neatly in the politcal ranks, I'm afraid." ALRIGHT! THAT DOES IT! Your a limey, so admit it! "I'm afraid": That expression is smacked out early on this side of the sea , mate! Own up! Everybody likes the Beatles, so you'll be alright! Magna Carta, Shakespeare, Alfred Hitchcock, we'll find a nook for you (in the attic).

Hey, watch it. I was born ... (Below threshold)
epador:

Hey, watch it. I was born in the UK. Can't you tell by the accent?

I never denied I was from B... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

I never denied I was from Britain. I have stated here before that I'm a transplant. It took you that long to figure that out? Thick as two short planks, if only now you realised this.

But to get back on topic:</... (Below threshold)
epador:

But to get back on topic:

Tancredo was not doing anything illegal, just disgusting.

So I propose anyone can call the cops the next time [Ted Kennedy] [insert your favorite politician from either side of the aisle] opens his or her mouth.

For all you nicotine addicts and abusers: While its more likely to cause significant heart or vascular disease, note lung cancer still tops out in the 6th and seventh decades due to tobacco. If you stop and let your cerebral arterioles dilate a little, imagine the increase in profundity you could share here. For every person with a problem like DJ's, not associated with any personal choices, there are ten suffering from self-inflicted malignancies. Now THAT's a sad waste (to steal a line from Obama).

epador: I would give you a ... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

epador: I would give you a :) but John Cloninger is a jealous bastard!

Hey, watch it. I was bor... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Hey, watch it. I was born in the UK. Can't you tell by the accent?

I thought I detected a brummie undertone to your letter "e"s, Mr Doolittle.

James Cloninger: oooooI'm g... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

James Cloninger: oooooI'm good! And no, you're utterly forgetable. Sorry! (But I know you now, so, Chin up!)

John Cloninger is a jea... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

John Cloninger is a jealous bastard!

Who's he when he's at home?

Joan?... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Joan?

double meaning! huh? huh? H... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

double meaning! huh? huh? HUH? (I'm a Commonwealth buff!)

I never denied I was fro... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I never denied I was from Britain. I have stated here before that I'm a transplant.

It does explain the proper grammar and, well, the presence of actual wit.

"Joan"? epithet? Cromwell's... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"Joan"? epithet? Cromwell's wife? Mercurius Aulicus? Monty Python? Dame Edna? English office parties?

Does anyone defending Ellis... (Below threshold)

Does anyone defending Ellison here think that Tancredo is the only member of Congress who smokes a cigar in his/her office?

Of course, if they do, they all must be "drunk."

Walk the halls of any of the Congressional office buildings. The scent of cigar smoke is practically ubiquitous.

"The officer told Tancredo that the officer came because he was required to do so and not because the officer wanted to. The officer had already told Ellison that Tancredo was permitted to smoke in his office. The visit was more a formality."

Anyone else just consider t... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Anyone else just consider this evidence that, no matter their politics, religion, or what=not, our Congresscritters are no more mature than third-graders in many ways?

Wait until Ellison starts c... (Below threshold)
hermie:

Wait until Ellison starts complaining about members of Congress who have alcohol on their breath, or the presence of seeing-eye dogs on Capitol Hill.

I guess eating a ham sandwi... (Below threshold)
mac:

I guess eating a ham sandwich for lunch is totally out of the question.

Regardless of whether or no... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Regardless of whether or not there were previous complaints to a third party, it's absolutely ridiculous to bring the police on to the premises for cigar smoke.

Any reasonable person would have brought this to Tancredo in person before wasting an officer's time.

Umm, you do realize that it... (Below threshold)
MunDane:

Umm, you do realize that it is legal for him to smoke in his office? The Pelosi no smoking ban applies to the public areas. The offices of the reps, despite their "public" aspect, are considered private places. (This is why a search warrant was needed for Jeffereson's office. If it was a public place, no search warrant would have been needed and the smoking ban woudl have held.)

nogo and all you other libs... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

nogo and all you other libs that will defend anything a fellow lib does no matter how idiotic, smoking IS allowed in offices in DC that have a door. So quit trying to say that Tancredo was doing something wrong in the first place, frigging babies, just like your leaders, call the cops why don't you.

Thick as two short plank... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Thick as two short planks, if only now you realised this.

Or thick as a brick.




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