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Need to bookmark that for h... (Below threshold)1. Posted by jhow66 | February 21, 2007 1:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Need to bookmark that for his run for office.
1. Posted by jhow66 | February 21, 2007 1:30 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 01:30
2. Posted by drlava | February 21, 2007 6:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kevin, Kevin
There is this word... and if you have a book called a dictionary it is probably in there. The word you want to look up is "sarcasm". If you ask mom or dad they can help you do it.
If you have never been to Minnesota you may not know that there are a lot of really smart people there that understand big words like "sarcasm".
2. Posted by drlava | February 21, 2007 6:19 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 06:19
3. Posted by SAHMmy | February 21, 2007 7:04 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
roflmao "If you have never been to Minnesota you may not know that there are a lot of really smart people..."
Zat so? Two words.
Jesse Ventura.
Liberal! Ah, you slay me:)
3. Posted by SAHMmy | February 21, 2007 7:04 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 07:04
4. Posted by WildWillie | February 21, 2007 8:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lefties make irresponsible hate speech, they are sarcastic, or are satirical. Republicans say the same thing, they are hate mongers. The lefties are in there own world. ww
4. Posted by WildWillie | February 21, 2007 8:12 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 08:12
5. Posted by nikkolai | February 21, 2007 8:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So, it appears Mr. Franken is ugly both inside and out. Yuck.
5. Posted by nikkolai | February 21, 2007 8:41 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 08:41
6. Posted by George | February 21, 2007 8:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If that is sarcasm, it is at the sickest level.
Franken is sick no matter how you interpret it.
6. Posted by George | February 21, 2007 8:50 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 08:50
7. Posted by Oyster | February 21, 2007 10:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Some people are actually going to vote for him. That is disturbing on so many levels.
7. Posted by Oyster | February 21, 2007 10:05 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 10:05
8. Posted by Dan Irving | February 21, 2007 10:11 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is why comedians don't make very good politicians (heck - neither do wrestlers) - you piss off too many people trying to be edgy and if you don't have an edge they make you host Late Night.
I'd love Carlos Mencia. I also love David Chappel. I'd vote for neither as POTUS.
8. Posted by Dan Irving | February 21, 2007 10:11 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 10:11
9. Posted by John Irving | February 21, 2007 10:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm pretty sure he was trying, not so successfully, to be funny.
But at least he didn't say "macaca."
9. Posted by John Irving | February 21, 2007 10:12 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 10:12
10. Posted by OregonMuse | February 21, 2007 10:44 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You bet. If Franken was conservative, this quote would have been dredged up the day he announced his candidacy, plastered over the front pages of the Washington Post and NY Times, debated back and forth for weeks in MSM punditland, and everywhere he went, Franken would have been dogged by reporters, demanding that he (a) explain himself, (b) apologize, (c) justify his existence, and (d) grovel before various msm-approved victims groups.
But Franken is a Democrat, so none of this will ever happen. The quote will get some play on talk radio, and maybe Fox News will do a story or two on it, but that will be about it.
10. Posted by OregonMuse | February 21, 2007 10:44 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 10:44
11. Posted by MunDane | February 21, 2007 10:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The exiration date of that quote happened when parachute pants were in fashion.
Cripes, think people might change a tad in 30 years?
11. Posted by MunDane | February 21, 2007 10:58 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 10:58
12. Posted by WildWillie | February 21, 2007 11:14 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mundane, tell that to Strom Thurmond, Clearance Thomas, GW Bush, etc. You proved my point exactly. Democrats change over the years but republicans are viewed the same by lefties. Hypocritical and pathetic. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | February 21, 2007 11:14 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 11:14
13. Posted by kbiel | February 21, 2007 11:22 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And by people, you mean Democrats, right? Because, I don't remember many on the left making the same argument as the press dredged up one rumor after another about George W. Bush: cocaine use, fortunate son, drunk driving arrest, et cetera.
13. Posted by kbiel | February 21, 2007 11:22 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 11:22
14. Posted by Ran | February 21, 2007 11:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cut him some slack!..He had an epiphany sitting beside Jeane G all those hours!..
Course, I'm SURE MunDane has some recent comments by Franken that shows his attitude has changed!
Why do I have a problem BELIEVING Minnesota gives a damn about his Gay hating anyway.
14. Posted by Ran | February 21, 2007 11:56 AM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 11:56
15. Posted by Mike N | February 21, 2007 12:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Al Franken needs to apologize, and publicly seek treatment for his homophobic remarks. This is lame that every preposterous thing he says is written off as a failed joke. "He's a comedian after all! This is Minnesota humor!"
15. Posted by Mike N | February 21, 2007 12:25 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 12:25
16. Posted by Peter F. | February 21, 2007 1:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Question for those who replied "it's just sarcasm": then shouldn't it be funny?
I get the over the top bit. Blah, blah, blah. But joking about a real murder? Come on...
That said, I don't think he should apologize for something he said 32 years ago. If any of us had to apologize for off-color and stupid jokes we said 32 years ago, well, we'd all be singing a different tune. Chalk up Franken's lame, psuedo-intellectual and juvenile attempt to be humorously sarcastic as a miserable failure and let it go...
16. Posted by Peter F. | February 21, 2007 1:01 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 13:01
17. Posted by JLawson | February 21, 2007 1:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, there's the humor you find in magazines like "Highlights for Kids", and the humor you find in Hustler magazine. I would hope a politican would be able to tell one from the other...
17. Posted by JLawson | February 21, 2007 1:04 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 13:04
18. Posted by JohnAnnArbor | February 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I once heard that Al Franken is really, really, REALLY resentful that he hasn't been given the "Hasty Pudding" award at Harvard (which lots of famous actors get, like Scarlett Johannsen this year).
18. Posted by JohnAnnArbor | February 21, 2007 1:13 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 13:13
19. Posted by BillyBob | February 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's wrong with disagreeing with certain people's behavior? Just because some one does not like it makes them phobic?
What a crock of shit. Gays and their agenda to normalize their behavior when the laws of Nature dictate otherwise.
19. Posted by BillyBob | February 21, 2007 2:27 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 14:27
20. Posted by Jo | February 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sarcasm? Oh yeah, I guess Michael Richards and Mel Gibson were being sarcastic too.
Good defense. lol.
20. Posted by Jo | February 21, 2007 2:37 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 14:37
21. Posted by Ran | February 21, 2007 4:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Me thinks BillyBob's anger management session conflicted with his KKK meeting this week..*smile*
So it's the Gay's AGENDA! That Franken hates!..ok
21. Posted by Ran | February 21, 2007 4:30 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 16:30
22. Posted by Clay | February 21, 2007 5:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow. I think I may even like Franken after that comment.
Now, that was sarcasm. Do I also get a pass from the left?
22. Posted by Clay | February 21, 2007 5:46 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 17:46
23. Posted by corwin | February 21, 2007 6:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'd read a bio about Rick Nelson where the author claimed Franken wanted him to do a skit called "Ozzie's Dead" when Nelson hosted SNL,leading Nelson to threaten to A) kick Franke's ass andB) walk off the show.
Instead he a skit about being trapped in the Twilight Zone,going to the Andersen's,then the Ricardo's then the Cleaver's house attempting to find his own.
Ackroyd did his Rod Serling imitation.
23. Posted by corwin | February 21, 2007 6:53 PM |
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Posted on February 21, 2007 18:53
24. Posted by Boobjonezyouniversitigraditate | February 22, 2007 3:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
yeeeeeee-haaaaaaa! So what's all the whoo-eee? That all sounds pretty good to me! Heck I'm almost a sad I doin't live in Minnesota. I'd probabl vote fer the guy!
24. Posted by Boobjonezyouniversitigraditate | February 22, 2007 3:11 PM |
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Posted on February 22, 2007 15:11
25. Posted by Joe Black | April 2, 2008 11:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The quote in the Crimson is said to be "taken out of context" or is "edgy humor" but if you read the original article in the Crimson, you can see that there is no "context" to take the quote out of.
And no, I don't "get" the "joke," either.
And the murder was quite real. Franken was joking about the 1975 gay-bashing murder of Knight-Ridder newspapers heir John Shivery Knight III to the Harvard Crimson in 1976.
Oh, I get it now! Stabbing a Fag! Oh that IS funny! No, wait, it isn't!
Al Franken is homophobic, I am afraid. The idea that his comments "have to be taken in context" is nonsense. This isn't "edgy humor" it is gay-bashing, plain and simple.
And this one quote is not an isolated incident with him.
I remember one of his "Fraken & Davis" skits back in the late 1970's, when I was an impressionable youth.
The duo appear onstage in south seas outfits (complete with grass skirts and coconut bras) to do their "sketch". The "joke" was that Davis picks this time to "come out" on the air and express his love for Al, who spurns his advances.
The overall impression of the act was one of mockery of homosexual impulses, which in 1978, was considered an acceptable form of humor (Johnny Carson loved this form of joke, often at other's expense, such as his long runnin inneunedos about Wayne Newton).
Hey, it was the 1970's, and gay-bashing was all the rage, right?
That's all the "context" you need.
There is a pattern to Franken's behavior. His homophobia is now nicely masked, but still present.
It should be noted also that "SNL" has been unapologically homophobic over the years. Lorne Michaels never heard a gay joke he didn't like. Sketches and cartoons like:
"The Ambiguously Gay Duo"
"Bisexual Minute"
"Gays in Space"
"It's Pat"
"Lyle, the Effiminent Heterosexual"
"She's the Girl wtih No Gaydar!"
"Sprockets"
etc. etc. etc.
are all pretty typical of the genre.
If you work on a show like that, and you don't say anything or try to change it, then you are part of it. Franken was not only a writer on the show, but later a producer as well.
For a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT to act this way is shocking. Has Franken apologized or anything? NO! He just says "I guess they didn't like the gay joke" (which one?) and says it was "edgy humor" that was "taken out of context."
Al Franken is a dangerous man, because he thinks he is always right about everything, all the time, and he never needs to apologize or change his mind.
And everyone who disagrees with him is a demon or a monster, not someone you can work with in the Senate or draft compromise legislation.
He will be a disaster as a Senator. Even Hillary Clinton learned to get along with her adversaries in the Senate. Al? Forget it!
We don't need more like him in government.
Left-wing facists.
25. Posted by Joe Black | April 2, 2008 11:14 PM |
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Posted on April 2, 2008 23:14