
The verdict in the trial of Lewis "Scooter" Libby has been read. Libby was found guilty on both counts of perjury, the single count of obstruction of justice, and on one of the two counts of making a false statement to the FBI. Four guilty verdicts and one not guilty.
Each count carries a maximum fine of $250,000 fine; thus, Libby could face up to one million dollars in fines. The guilty verdicts also carry a maximum prison term of thirty years. Under federal sentencing guidelines it's unlikely that Libby would receive anything near the maximum.
U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton has ordered that a pre-sentencing report on Libby be completed by May 15, and Libby's lawyers have indicated that they will file a motion for a new trial. If that motion fails, they will then file an appeal.
Updates by Kim:
Patrick Fitzgerald announced that he will not be filing any other charges.
Judge Andrew Napolitano speculated that the Libby's attorneys will file a motion for a new trial based upon the questions that the jurors asked, which could show that they were "hopelessly confused." The jury even asked the judge if Libby was charged with lying to one of the journalists.
Update: Ok, one of the jurors, Denis Collins, is speaking now, and he just said he was a reporter for many years. I'm surprised that Libby's defense attorneys would accept him on the jury. Get this: Denis said that the jury believed Libby was the "fall guy." That sounds like something that they would have heard on the news. Can't that be argued that the jury was, therefore, tainted?
Update II: Denis, the reporter, just admitted that the jury took Matt Cooper's word over Libby's.
Update III: Again, Denis said that the jury believed that Russert was very credible. So, two journalists were more believable than Libby. Shocking.
Update IV: Denis is having a hard time recalling the details of what took place in the jury room yet they have a hard time believing that Libby remembered some details better than others. Doesn't his own remarks here show how easily Libby could forget with whom he had conversations about Valerie Plame?
Update V: And get this: For a mere $150.00, you can see Keith Olbermann interview Valerie Plame. And Joe Wilson will be on Olbermann's Countdown tonight with reaction, I suspect.
Update VI: Here's the text of Harry Reid's reaction:
I welcome the jury's verdict. It's about time someone in the Bush Administration has been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics. Lewis Libby has been convicted of perjury, but his trial revealed deeper truths about Vice President Cheney's role in this sordid affair. Now President Bush must pledge not to pardon Libby for his criminal conduct.
Where'd this pardon talk come from? And since when do Democrats have an issue with them? It was Clinton who pardoned the most corrupt people upon his leaving office.
Here's Pelosi's reaction:
Today's guilty verdicts are not solely about the acts of one individual.
This trial provided a troubling picture of the inner workings of the Bush Administration. The testimony unmistakably revealed - at the highest levels of the Bush Administration - a callous disregard in handling sensitive national security information and a disposition to smear critics of the war in Iraq.
Where was Nancy's outrage toward Sandy Berger, who not only stole national security documents and lied about it, but destroyed them as well? And let's not forget that Speaker Pelosi was completely committed to naming Alcee Hastings, a former Florida judge who was impeached for bribery and perjury, as chairman House Select Committee on Intelligence. The only reason she backed down from that was because of all the outrage that followed. And Speaker Pelosi has the nerve to now indignantly claim that Libby's conviction is proof of the Bush Administration's disregard for national security issues?
Update VII: Tammy Bruce also has suspicions about juror Denis Collins, who she says wrote for the Washington Post.
Talkative Libby Juror Denis Collins is apparently a journalist who has written for the Washington POst among other newspapers. There is also word which I'm still checking on that he plans to write a book. As you can imagine a book about a case likethis is only relevant when there's aguilty verdict. Another element the Libby defense team should consider is if a juror or jurors had a financial interest in the nature of the verdict, either through furthering their own profile, or the sale of a book about the matter.
They already have an excellent case for both a new trial and an appeal base on the fact that Collins also noted that a myriad of other considerations affected their deliberations, like Libby being the "fall guy" for Karl Rove. It seems they created an entire conspiratorial backstory with other characters that had nothing to do with whether or not Libby, as an individual man, lied.
Update VIII: Mark Levin has some very interesting comments:
This morning the jury didn't understand two of the counts. Yesterday it didn't understand what was meant by reasonable doubt. Let me suggest that in the end it still didn't understand the two counts or reasonable doubt.
Please, spare me the lectures about the jury system and a fair trial. This case should never have seen the inside of a courtroom. The witnesses were universally pathetic. The judge was overly restrictive in the testimony he allowed on behalf of the defense. But most of all, I object to this case because it was political from beginning to end. Patrick Fitzgerald's closing argument was as much about Dick Cheney and George Bush as Libby. He wanted the jurors to consider the war. He wanted them to look at more than the evidence. So, it's perfectly legitimate for some of us to conclude that they did. We might call this jury nullifcation in reverse.
This gives more insight into Denis Collins' comments that the jury thought Libby was the Bush Administration's "fall guy."
Quin Hillyer at the American Spectator blog doesn't have a kind word for Patrick Fitzgerald:
I accuse Patrick Fitzgerald of using the courts for a personal vendetta (related to the old Marc Rich case). I accuse Patrick Fitzgerald of improperly using his closing argument to broaden the case into an indictment of Dick Cheney and of thereby sliming Scooter Libby of guilt by association. I accuse Fitzgerald of improperly intimating to the jury that Libby betrayed deadly national secrets. I accuse Fitzgerald of extreme inconsistency in giving blanket immunity to Ari Fleisher without even knowing what Fleisher would say, while badgering Libby for hours on end in order to trap Libby into saying anything, anything at all, that this modern-day Inspector Javert could claim was perjury. I accuse Fitzgerald of manufacturing a case out of whole cloth even after knowing, almost from day one, that there was no underlying crime. I accuse Fitzgerald of treating Libby (and Rove) entirely differently from Richard Armitage. I accuse Fitzgerald of manifold abuses of his prosecutorial authority and discretion. I accuse Fitzgerald of persecuting an innocent man. I accuse Fitzgerald of megalomania. I accuse Fitzgerald of bloodlust. In short, I accuse Patrick Fitzgerald of being a lousy excuse for a human being. And I hope our Maker, the Great Author of All Justice, will do true justice in the end.
Others blogging:
Bill Faith
Greg Tinti
Ian at Hot Air
Sister Toldjah
Mary Katharine Ham
Tom Bevan at RealClearPolitics has a good roundup of reaction.
Comments (229)
Well, there you go. Appare... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, there you go. Apparently nowadays reporters whose own notes contradict their version of events are more believable to a jury than an administration employee in a 'he said/she said' case.
1. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM |
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2. Posted by Justin Thyme | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Appeal time?
2. Posted by Justin Thyme | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:16
3. Posted by kim | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bummer.
The upside is that appeal will get the real story out, which wasn't a sure thing. I doubted we'd get cloture over the run-up to the war with an innocent verdict, and now we have a chance.
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3. Posted by kim | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM |
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4. Posted by Ted | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And Sandy Burger goes free, with no prosecution!!!!!
Amazing
4. Posted by Ted | March 6, 2007 12:16 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:16
5. Posted by Dave | March 6, 2007 12:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What a joke...
And good point about Sandy Burgler
5. Posted by Dave | March 6, 2007 12:18 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:18
6. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 12:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Imagine the howls from the left if Libby is found not guilty of all charges. My best guess is that it's a mixed verdict - not guilty on obstruction and perjury, and guilty on false statements."
Oh yeah!
I smell a pardon! Presidentin' Iran Contra style!
6. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 12:21 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:21
7. Posted by groucho | March 6, 2007 12:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wonder what his reward will be for taking the fall for the big guys? Ambassador? Head of the EPA? PR man for the coalition of the leaving?
7. Posted by groucho | March 6, 2007 12:24 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:24
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 6, 2007 12:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good thing Bush brought back honor and integrity to the White House.
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 6, 2007 12:24 PM |
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9. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 6, 2007 12:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"And Sandy Burger goes free"
If you got a problem with that, take it up with the Bush administration They run the Justice department.
9. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 6, 2007 12:27 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:27
10. Posted by Mac Lorry | March 6, 2007 12:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That's what passes for justice in this country nowadays. About the only jurors they could find that didn't have much pretrial knowledge of the case were too ignorant (as evidenced by their questions) to deliberate and judge the facts of the case. I'm sure there will be an appeal, but appeals deal only with the process and no new evidence can be introduced unless it pertains to the process rather than the case. Bush needs to mark his January 2009 calendar with a note to remind him to pardon Libby before he leaves office.
10. Posted by Mac Lorry | March 6, 2007 12:30 PM |
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11. Posted by _Mike_ | March 6, 2007 12:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And the award for "I Still Don't Understand This" goes to...
groucho:
Wonder what his reward will be for taking the fall for the big guys? Ambassador? Head of the EPA? PR man for the coalition of the leaving?
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11. Posted by _Mike_ | March 6, 2007 12:35 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:35
12. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have to agree with _mike_. Talk about glaring ignorance. Not to worry, though, the newspapers will all be reporting tomorrow that he was convicted of 'outing' a covert CIA agent.
12. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:38 PM |
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13. Posted by Lorie Byrd | March 6, 2007 12:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
what I think is more amazing is that Clinton, who admitted to lying under oath, went free.
What was surprising to me is that the jury convicted on Tim Russert's testimony after he was shown not to even be able to remember some of his own actions and statements even after being shown his own notes.
I can't find it anywhere online, but Harry Reid released a statement that Fox News read saying this verdict held someone accountable for the manipulation of intelligence or some such ridiculous claim. He also said something about a presidential pardon.
13. Posted by Lorie Byrd | March 6, 2007 12:39 PM |
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14. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey, anybody got links to liberal sites already declaring how evil and wrong and indefensible perjury and obstruction of justice in a perjury investigation is?
You know where I'm going with this, right?
14. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:40 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:40
15. Posted by Listkeeper | March 6, 2007 12:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Perjury is only a BAD thing when it's a Republican accused of it!
15. Posted by Listkeeper | March 6, 2007 12:42 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:42
16. Posted by mantis | March 6, 2007 12:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Did the judge and lawyers cry? That seems to be the new thing.
16. Posted by mantis | March 6, 2007 12:46 PM |
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17. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 12:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I keep hearing the name Scooter Libby when they read the guilty verdicts. I thought this was about Karl Rove? I mean, all the MSM and liberal bloggers said the Karl Rove guilty deal was a "sure thing." This is confusing. Liberals don't lie, do they?
ROFLMAO
P.S. Looking forward to Clintons upcoming trial - ya know, since he lied under oath while PRESIDENT.
Oh wait....that and stealing documents and hiding them under trucks doesn't count.
17. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 12:47 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:47
18. Posted by groucho | March 6, 2007 12:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks, but I think the award is premature. I don't think all the votes have been counted. It's not such a big deal, really, just another glimpse behind the curtain of the Cheney/Rove political machine. After he's pardoned though, we'll see where he ends up. Good soldiers are always rewarded in the Bush family.
18. Posted by groucho | March 6, 2007 12:49 PM |
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19. Posted by TR19667 | March 6, 2007 12:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I continue to be puzzled by Bush and Gonzalez.
1) Clinton lies to the Grand Jury and walks
2) Berger steals classified docs and walks
3) Two border agents are sent to prison on the word of a mexican drug dealer who's granted immunity and given mucho bennies
4) A US congressman is caught on tape (and in the fridge) taking a bribe with no apparent ramifications
5) The two largest US papers routinely devulge classified information
But Libby is convicted wrt a crime that never happened, basec on the word of several "journalists"
Bush should be ashamed and Gonzalez fired. This may be the weakest and worst AG in recent history.
19. Posted by TR19667 | March 6, 2007 12:50 PM |
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20. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 12:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush get out your pen and pardon the poor guy. This whole thing was a sham and everyone knows it. The jury knew that a not guilty verdict would mean less drama for their upcoming "movie."
Yawn.
20. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 12:52 PM |
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21. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 12:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Perjury is only a BAD thing when it's a Republican accused of it!
Posted by: Listkeeper at March 6, 2007 12:42 PM
I think you mean a Republican found GUILTY of it. Hahaha. This is very funny seeing you all piss and moan. Justice was served, and you all know it.
21. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 12:52 PM |
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22. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Justice was served? Not really sure about that. If the gaggle of reporters was all clear on their stories and agreed with each other (and with themselves, by the way), I could agree with you. As it stands it seems odd that this conviction was based, not on a confession or evidence, but the admittedly spotty recollections of a group of people with a proven antagonistic attitude towards the defendant. That said, it could still be true. I think most of the commenters (and writers) here are thrown mostly by the quality of the evidence and the attitude of the accusers more than anything.
22. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 12:56 PM |
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23. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 12:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
P.S. Looking forward to Clintons upcoming trial - ya know, since he lied under oath while PRESIDENT.
Oh wait....that and stealing documents and hiding them under trucks doesn't count.
Posted by: Jo at March 6, 2007 12:47 PM
Yeah, I guess that lying about weapons of mass destruction doesn't either, right Jo? But, who cares if thousands of American soldiers are dead over a couple of lies, right? It's amazing how you assholes can rationalize for the criminals in the Bush Whitehouse.
The shrinking right-wing: a pathetic group of losers and whiners. LOL.
23. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 12:57 PM |
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24. Posted by yo | March 6, 2007 12:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I smell a rat. This Juror, Collins ... something ain't right about him.
24. Posted by yo | March 6, 2007 12:59 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 12:59
25. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maggy, we're yawning, not whining. But nice try. Now where is Rove's guilty verdict? You guys said it was a SURE THING. lol.
This would have a hell of a lot more "impact" had it not come after the Clinton administration, who it seems had half his staff get indicted.
Again, yawn.
25. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:01 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:01
26. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush get out your pen and pardon the poor guy. This whole thing was a sham and everyone knows it. The jury knew that a not guilty verdict would mean less drama for their upcoming "movie."
Yawn.
Posted by: Jo at March 6, 2007 12:52 PM
Everyone knows it? Poor guy? Time to take your meds, dear. The ever diminishing morals of the right-wing couldn't be more evident than they are here today. You people are truly pathetic.
26. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:01 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:01
27. Posted by D-Hoggs | March 6, 2007 1:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
maggy, does lying about WMD count for all the democrats who said the same thing, including hillary? or is it only the republicans that get saddled with that responsibilty? Thought so.
27. Posted by D-Hoggs | March 6, 2007 1:04 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:04
28. Posted by D-Hoggs | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I love when moonbats try to talk about morals.
28. Posted by D-Hoggs | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:05
29. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"what I think is more amazing is that Clinton, who admitted to lying under oath, went free."
Free but not unpunished, "Practicing" journalist:
"On February 12, the Senate concluded a 21-day trial with the vote on both counts falling short of the Constitutional requirement of a two-thirds majority to convict and remove an office holder. The final vote was generally along party lines, with all of the votes to convict being cast by Republicans. On the perjury charge 55 senators voted to acquit, including 10 Republicans, and 45 voted to convict; on the obstruction charge the Senate voted 50-50."
(which party held the majority during that period?)
And -
Clinton was disbarred from his Arkansas law license for five years and ordered to pay $25,000 in fines to that state's bar officials. The agreement came on the condition that Whitewater prosecutors would not pursue criminal charges against him after he lied under oath about his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
29. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM |
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30. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
yo, you're right. What's with the drama with this juror? Looks like he's rehearsed this since day one. This guy is acting like he's vying for his own tv show, like the Anna Nicole judge.
These guys can't wait to get to the microphone for their 15 minutes. What a circus!
30. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:05
31. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jo, No, you're whining. "You guys" were sure Bill Clinton would be thrown out of office, and you haven't stopped pissing and moaning about it for eight long, boring years. Talk about yawn.
This is very funny. Thanks for the laughs.
31. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:05
32. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
maggy, does lying about WMD count for all the democrats who said the same thing, including hillary? or is it only the republicans that get saddled with that responsibilty? Thought so.
Posted by: D-Hoggs at March 6, 2007 01:04 PM
Oh, so you're admitting that the Preznit lied? That's a first, and about time.
32. Posted by maggysturn | March 6, 2007 1:07 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:07
33. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maggysturn,
Yeah, the diminishing morals of the rightwing, meanwhile we continue to pull cash out of Jefferson's freezer, as Nancy rewards him on Homeland Security panel, privy to classified info. What's next? Sandy Burglar in charge of the National Archives? lol
You guys are hilarious.
33. Posted by Jo | March 6, 2007 1:07 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:07
34. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I love when moonbats try to talk about morals."
I love it when wingnuts try to talk at all. You might be lucky enough to hear it through a full set of teeth.
Nah.
34. Posted by MyPetGloat | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:08
35. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
No, no, d-hoggs, you see George Bush, while governor of Texas, made the Clintons and their administration talk about Iraq's WMDs in the late 90s. Really. And if he didn't do it, then Cheney did it - in the Oval Office with the Evil Weather Machine. Or in the National Archives with The Socks. Or something like that.
35. Posted by Falze | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM |
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Posted on March 6, 2007 13:08
36. Posted by hansel2 | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush get out your pen and pardon the poor guy. This whole thing was a sham and everyone knows it.
Thats right. Keep defending these people as they lie, steal and kill. It doesn't matter whether it's a democrat or a republican. If you're so deluded that you're defending these people simply because they're part of your "team" you're pathetic.
And keep your head in the sand about all this. That's what you're good at. Fools.
Should Clinton have gone to jail? Why not. That was up to his prosecutors. If Nixon hung around and Ford didn't pardon him, he should have been locked up too.
The country is more important than any of these people. That's what someone like you, Jo, with your right-wing-at-all-costs mind can't grasp.
And the current President - that liar - he should be behind bars as well. Probably won't, but the case they'll make against him and Cheney isn't going to be pretty.
36. Posted by hansel2 | March 6, 2007 1:08 PM |