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"Jesus Would Be Disappointed" -- John Edwards

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I have no problem with people having money or even owning obscenely large extravagant homes. When you make comments like the following one though, and you own homes like the one above, it is a little hard to reconcile the two.
"I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs," Edwards told the site. "I think he would be appalled, actually."

Edwards did say Jesus would be disappointed in "our own" selfish short-term needs though, so I guess it isn't so hard to reconcile them after all.

John Edwards really is the gift that just keeps on giving (to 2008 Presidential candidates, that is.) I found the picture above at Jon Ham's blog where he informs us that in addition to the 28,000 square foot Chapel Hill mansion, John Edwards owns a multi-million dollar beach home on Figure Eight Island.

Mary Katharine Ham had the following comment on Edwards' "Jesus statement":

Now, because John Edwards is so down with the Lord, he tells us that Jesus would be ashamed of us for our selfishness. Well, yeah, all of us have fallen short, John.

Let he who is without a private-island 2,800 sq. ft. beach house throw the first stone, huh?


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A lot of people have a lot ... (Below threshold)

A lot of people have a lot of money and that doesn't bother me either.

It seems more honest to have a big home (or more than one) because one is creating wealth and spreading it around, say like Bill Gates (no matter if you think he's the devil himself) or someone like George Lucas (the holiday party or 4th of July picnic for employees is an eye opener as to just how many people funnel just how much of his income into the surrounding community) than it is to have several huge homes and go on about how everyone else is supposed to feel all guilty that they have more than others do.

Particularly as he hasn't *created* anything, simply taken his money from others in court settlements.

And this assholes has the... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

And this assholes has the nerve to beg for more of other peoples money to get him elected to a better position to have even more control over more of other peoples money. Especially those that did not vote for him or want him to touch a damn penny of their money.

John Edwards, one of many leading members of the Criminal Democrat Party of Perpetual Fraud right hear right now is exposed.

Embarrassing isn't it ? Only if your a Democrat.

Jesus, this is embarrassing... (Below threshold)
epador:

Jesus, this is embarrassing.

Actually, the sum total of ... (Below threshold)
Chris G:

Actually, the sum total of Christ's message was not summarized in "caring for the poor". The greatest commandment outlined in Matt 22:36-40, Mark 12:29-31; and Luke 10:26-31 was "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied:

"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

1. You can't talk about Jesus, and then deny His Supreme authority as designer of creation and judge of mankind. you can't talk about Jesus' policy about the poor, then deny Him a place in the public forum, or pretend his message that He was going to die as atonement for mankind's immoral behavior was the basis for the New Teatament that is often misquoted by politicians.

2. Care for the poor does not supercede all other virtues. Love of God first, should/must translate to love our neighbor. But charity is not a seperate quality apart from holiness (being set apart from that which is common for Divine purposes) and righteousness (having an intimate relationship with God exemplified by trusting Him at His word). It is one aspect of it.

3. Other aspects include respecting God's design of creation as perfect, as outlined in Genesis chap 2 that a man will leave his parents and take a wife and the two shall cleave (Get Married). This precludes all other sexual/relationship arrangements we have come to not only accept, but advocate.

4. Additional aspects include respecting life as God is the author of the life cycle, also created in Genesis chap 1-3. God says be fruitful and multiply. This also precludes the practice of abortion. We can debate about birth control, which manipulates the body's physiological dynamic to cease gestation at the fertilization of gametes. Abortion 99% of the time involves the ending of an actual fetus' life cycle in utero.

5. And considering that in the time of Jesus' earthly ministry, the occupaying Roman government nor the Jewish religious class did not extend an entitlement program to the poor. In the case of this country, I believe 16% (I could be wrong on the actual percentage, correct me if I am) of the total federal budget goes to various entitlement programs. I may also note, these programs have little to no oversite as they are merely vote buying, ponzi schemes.

When I hear politiians speak of caring for the poor, while talking about taxes/spending I think of John 12:6, when Christ was speaking of Judas in a uncomplimentary way

"He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it"

I watch many religious prog... (Below threshold)

I watch many religious programs each week, and most live in vast homes or have huge ranchs or vacation homes. Some like John Hagee earn in excess of $1 million dollars a year as a salary. Robert Schuller has a huge ranch. Oral Robert's son, Richard has clothes closets the size of most person's living rooms in his mansion.Even the Vatican is a huge landowner. Maybe this isn't in line with Jesus either.

Most major politicians, Democrat or Republican do own large homes or even ranchs.

Edwards did earn his home by bringing product liability suits against companies with dangerous defective products. A small girl had part of her intestines sucked down a defectively designed swimming pool drain and faces lifelong medical problems from this, and Edwards won her a large settlement.

Flamable pajamas were not taken off the market by government action, but by product liability lawsuits. Toxic shock lawsuits by women, not government, led to warning labels on feminine hygene products.

Product liabity lawsuits can take 10 or more years of a lawyer's time and their personal investment for filing papers. Why someone who sacrifices this much should not live in a decent home should be without question. But on the other hand, I know three attoerneys who live quite humbly despite great incomes who drive very modest automobiles such as an old VW bug.

It should be noted that vul... (Below threshold)

It should be noted that vultures, rodents, and many parasites also serve a function.


Edwards invoking Jesus? What a "godbag," eh?

"You can't talk about Jesus... (Below threshold)
JB:

"You can't talk about Jesus, and then deny His Supreme authority as designer of creation and judge of mankind."

You can if you're a liberal.

WWJD indeed.

Communism's big lie was the... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Communism's big lie was the fact there still was an elite class. It was just official policy to deny it.

So its no surprise that John "class envy" Edwards' supporters have no problem with this.

Some are more equal than ot... (Below threshold)
JB:

Some are more equal than others, comrade.

Don't you Calvinists believ... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

Don't you Calvinists believe that God wants His people to be rich? Which megachurch do you go to?

I really don't see what all... (Below threshold)
Sylkione:

I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

Didn't Mother Theresa own a palace?

Chris G"H... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Chris G

"He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it"

Well said! I think you really nailed politicians in general and Edwards in particular.

Democrats have mentioned th... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:

Democrats have mentioned they need to stop alienating Christians. After all, there is an anti-war Christian element out there to include the open boarders Christians. When I hear these people interviewed about their positions, they believe their positions are in line with tenets of Christ's teachings.

That position seems to take precedence over the national security issue.

And that is the reason I don't have much use for these particular Christians because of the fact they wouldn't have a religion to practice over time if the proverbial "turn the other cheek" is applied in every situation.

They claim the moral high ground while other Christians, those that practice other religions and non-believers continue to protect their right to self-proclaimed high mightiness.

This is the group John Edwards is addressing and it is condescending of the worst kind since people like Edwards's positions are not tenets of the Bible, but rather of political posturing.

Democrats rely heavily on duping people and especially Edwards.

After all, he was a sitting U.S. Senator; he had all the U.S. intelligence in front of him and then voted to authorize military force against Iraq. He believes there are enough stupid people out there to go for his explanation that he was duped and "not" flip-flopping to placate his moonbat constituency.

The sad part is, there are enough stupid people out there to actually believe him. And he is hoping his Christian messages fall on stupid people's ears also.

And that's all I got to say about that........



Maybe Edwards needs a beach... (Below threshold)
hermie:

Maybe Edwards needs a beach house so he has a convenient place to practice walking on water.

The problem isn't that Edwa... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

The problem isn't that Edwards is wealthy. It's that Edwards doesn't adhere to his own standards. Those standards are, apparently, for everyone else and he's just their keeper.

In other words, there's nothing wrong with being wealthy, but it is wrong (or at least inconsistent) to accumulate wealth while 'preaching' against the accumulation of wealth.

I think hermie is right on ... (Below threshold)

I think hermie is right on this one its funny!
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Mike: " but it is wrong ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Mike: " but it is wrong (or at least inconsistent) to accumulate wealth while 'preaching' against the accumulation of wealth."

Where in Edwards statement is he '...preaching' against the accumulation of wealth."?

Edwards: "I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs," Edwards told the site. "I think he would be appalled, actually."

How does owning a nice house translate into "focusing on ... selfish short-term needs"? Republicans always ignore the message and attack the messenger -- so let's back up and have you clowns demonstrate how Edwards has ignored the plight of the poor and disadvantaged in America. An aerial photo of a (damned beautiful) house, and the snarky repartee of a couple of GOP apologists notwithstanding -- no one has shown anything that suggests Edwards doesn't practice what he preaches.

You won't show where that's the case-- because you can't -- but since the clueless won't have any idea how to even start let me offer a beginning point -- show where Edwards is guilty of "ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering".

You morons think that because he has a nice houses he's "focusing on selfish short-term needs" -- owning nice houses hardly constitutes "focusing" -- but whether he owns nice houses or not is irrelevant if you can't show that he's "ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering" as he enjoys those nice house -- and you can't.

You can't back that up at all -- so we get a couple of Ham sandwiches taking pathetic potshots at a great American. You losers are significant part of what is sick in American politics today.

That house is much larger t... (Below threshold)
Allen Tanner:

That house is much larger than 2800 sq. ft. Look at the scale of those double garage doors and that basketball standard in the front of the house.

That thing is between 6000-10000 sq. ft.

Lee, if memory serves, it h... (Below threshold)
Joanie:

Lee, if memory serves, it has been said that Edwards has never done pro bono work, which is unusual for any attorney. He has chosen high-profile cases and has been paid well for winning them. No one has a problem with that... but his chiding references to "two Americas" gives the lie to the way he actually lives his life.

Joanie

How does owning a... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:
How does owning a nice house translate into "focusing on ... selfish short-term needs"

There is "nice" and there is "extravagant".

Preaching "selfish short-term needs" can be judged by percentages of "giving" to those less fortunate.

It is a "practice what you preach" argument.

Does he follow the example of the Vice President and give away his wealth, or does he keep it for his own selfish indulgences and justify his statements by meaning through the government we should be giving thus our generosity must pass through a bureaucrats hands first.

Old p'p' has made dumb stat... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Old p'p' has made dumb statement before but the one above is about the dumbest yet. Keep up the "good" work there "pucker".

"Lee, if memory serves, ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

"Lee, if memory serves, it has been said that Edwards has never done pro bono work"

Edwards' law career is characterized by his willingness to stand up and champion the little guy. I suspect he's never served soup in a New York CIty shelter for the homeless either -- and does that mean he's only interested in accumulating wealth? No, that would be an absurd conclusion.

In my career I've never done pro bono work related to my career and employment. Does that mean I only care about amassing personal wealth? Of course not, the fact is that I volunteer in other ways, donate money to charitable causes, etc. - as does Edwards.

Nice of you to trot out one of Rush Limbaugh's talking points, Joanie, but it doesn't prove the thesis that Edwards is only interested in accumulating wealth. All it does is further demonstrate that the right can come up with attacks, but can't back up the attacks with proof.

"Preaching "selfish shor... (Below threshold)
Lee:

"Preaching "selfish short-term needs" can be judged by percentages of "giving" to those less fortunate."

Good. What percentage of Edwards' time and money is donated to giving, JJ?

If you've come to the conclusion that Edwards is selfish, and you base that on his giving percentages, what evidence of his giving percentages did you use as a basis to draw that conclusion?

donate money to c... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:
donate money to charitable causes, etc. - as does Edwards

I would be interested in how much Edwards donates as a percentage of his income. I cannot find it anywhere.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can find that info.

Sorry, Lee, but your defens... (Below threshold)
Joanie:

Sorry, Lee, but your defense of Edwards doesn't ring true. Is your career based on bringing justice to people who have been hurt? If so, and if you have only chosen to take on cases that have a monetary reward, then you should be embarassed to admit it also.

There's a difference between giving away to charity (which most of us do) and going out and making a difference with the skills that you use every day. It's easy to write a check, isn't it? So easy. Much easier than taking time to make a difference in individual lives.

But it's apparently hard to see hypocrisy when it's so close to your own life choices.

Joanie

If you've come to... (Below threshold)
Jumpinjoe:
If you've come to the conclusion that Edwards is selfish, and you base that on his giving percentages, what evidence of his giving percentages did you use as a basis to draw that conclusion

You posted this before my last post. I don't know and cannot find what percentage of his income he gives away.

I don't know if he is like Al Gore that gives $200 bucks a year away and expects the government to pull the slack or if he puts his money where his mouth is and gives 10 percent or more as most Christians do.

Thanks for your honesty, JJ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Thanks for your honesty, JJ. I don't know the answer either, but I suspect that (a) Edwards' tax returns are a matter of public record, and (b) if his giving percentage was low Rush Limbaugh would make sure the world knew about it.

That doesn't mean Edwards is indeed generous - it means we don't know -- and if we don't know how can people honestly and with integrity make the claim that he's selfish?

They can't - and that's my point. All we get is Ham sandwiches pointing at Edwards' nice houses and claiming that proves he's a hypocrite. It doesn't.

Joanie" "There's a difference between giving away to charity (which most of us do) and going out and making a difference with the skills that you use every day. It's easy to write a check, isn't it? So easy. Much easier than taking time to make a difference in individual lives."

Edwards can donate his time in other ways, such a speaking appearances, etc. Do you have any evidence that he doesn't donate his time, and only writes checks?

The burden of proof is on the accuser, folks - and so far all the accusers have come up with is photos of a couple of really nice houses.

Joanie,Being a lit... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Joanie,

Being a little judgmental here aren't we? How exactly can you condemn someone for giving their earned money to charity because "It's easy to write a check,"?

People choose to be mentors, big brothers, social workers, etc., because they have an interest and an inherent or developed skill set to do so.

I'm confident to say that none of us spend as much time and energy as we should or possibly could helping other people, but alot can be said for those of us who spend any time and energy helping others, as it is not a social requirement.

Indeed, none of us give as ... (Below threshold)
Joanie:

Indeed, none of us give as much as we might... either of time, or money. Although a lot of us probably know people who spend years in Third World countries, doing a lot of good work there, or in our own inner cities. (my close friend is doing that right now) But most of us don't base a run for the Presidency on the imbalance of rich and poor. John Edwards headed the Center for Poverty, something-or-other and Opportunity there in North Carolina, which he started after his failed run in 2004, and which he has now stepped down from. Looks like there was lots of splash and speeches from it. Lots of fanfare. But it's hard to find evidence that it made any real differences in actual lives.

See, that's the hypocrisy. He talks of helping the poor, but it's hard to find evidence that he has actually given of himself, unless there was something in it for him. If he has given greatly to charity, why isn't that information on his website? (Or it's well hidden there) If he has done pro bono work, why isn't that public? If the Center for Poverty and Whatever did a lot of good (instead of discussing policy in the rarified air of academia) why is it so hard to find? Wouldn't it be easier for you to show us the evidence that he HAS done the work? Or is he so very humble that he hides his good work?

Joanie

Let see Bush was b... (Below threshold)
marty arrowsmith:

Let see

Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth that he ultimately used for nose candy. A failed businessman who was elected governor by lying and smearing his opponent. He then became responsible for executing more people as his tenure of governor of the lame state of texas than any other American.

He said that he would bring honesty to the white house and then lied us into a war that has led us into the senseless slaughter of countless innocents. He fails at caring for our war injured, ignored new orleans plight while he vacationed at his very large and extensive ranch in texas.

Abortion is still legal. That won't change because republicans can string you sad deluded and blind consertvatives along for many years to comes and keep you voting for them. They don't want to lose that talking point. Then what would they have?

So, ceratinly our war criminal-in-chief most certainly can not cast the first stone.

His motto is likely, "Who would Jesus kill?"

Go back to sleep.

Joanie,My response... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Joanie,

My response to your post was actually based on my thinking you were talking about Lee rather than Edwards.

As far as Edwards is concerned, he may well be hypocrite, but I'm not of the mind to comb through his financial activities to find out.

Just having a nice house won't do it, as to be charitable, one shouldn't be required to live in a one bedroom apartment. You don't need to be poor to help the poor just as you don't need to be a soldier to support the war.

marty,Now that you... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

marty,

Now that your done cutting and pasting your well-worn talking points, what do you think about Edwards?

Haralder: Marty doesn't ha... (Below threshold)
SShiell:

Haralder: Marty doesn't have any thoughts about Edwards. He swoops in, puts his Liberal Narrative "Bush = Hitler" entry into the comments and then leaves. If he has any thoughts other than that, it is a mystery to anyone who visits this site.

Marty,When you accus... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

Marty,
When you accuse someone of lying, it helps your credibility if you don't do it yourself. In the case of that comment you made, there was more lie than truth there. The "nose candy" and other comments don't even require a response, and certainly have nothing to do with the subject of this post. b

More on topic though, if you want to talk about the Bushes, look at how much the Bushes and Cheneys contribute to charity compared to how much most all of the Democrat politicians contribute. It is embarrassing for the Dems, although I think a few of them changed their ways after they were publicly humiliated when the records were revealed in one of the recent elections.

SShiell,Interestin... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

SShiell,

Interesting you classify them as "thoughts". How generous.

As for Edwards championing ... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

As for Edwards championing the little guy, what I have heard over the years (working with lawyers in Raleigh who went to school with Edwards) is that he took cases he thought would bring in a big payday. He turned other little guys away. While there is nothing wrong with discouraging a client with a weak case from pursuing it, what I have a problem with is the huge contingency fees he took while playing the role of selfless champion of others.

That little girl in Cary whose intestines were sucked out, for example, will require a lifetime of medical care. Her parents got a large amount of money, but the huge chunk that Edwards took could have really helped them. He deserves to be rewarded for helping her win the case, but he did not HAVE to take such an outrageously huge sum, just because he COULD. Lawyers can cut fees. They do it everyday. I worked in a law firm where they did it from time to time. Edwards could have cut that fee and still have taken a huge fortune for him and his law firm.

The other problem I have with Edwards though is his malpractice cerebral palsy cases against the obstetricians. I think he did no service to the "little man" there and only resulted in more unnecessary cesarean deliveries and higher health costs for all. He channeled a dead baby from her mother's womb for goodness sake. That is pure huckster and I am surprised a jury fell for it. Especially ironic since Edwards is pro-choice, too.

"When you accuse someone... (Below threshold)
Lee:

"When you accuse someone of lying, it helps your credibility if you don't do it yourself. In the case of that comment you made, there was more lie than truth there. The "nose candy" and other comments don't even require a response, and certainly have nothing to do with the subject of this post."

You've implied Bush's past use of cocaine is lie, but you don't want to actually state that it's a lie? perhaps because.. you'd be lying?

How disingenuous of you... A wise person once said "When you accuse someone of lying, it helps your credibility if you don't do it yourself.". Good advice there, eh Lorie?

Lee:<br ... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Lee:


Edwards' law career is characterized by his willingness to stand up and champion the little guy

The point of my early assertion was that Edwards' motivation is money, not helping the 'little guy'... which is fine, but he should spare us the "I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs".

I haven't been able to find anything that Edwards has done that indicates that he was motivated primarily by the desire to 'help the little guy'. If those actions existed, they would have been touted in the Presidential campaign of '04.

Indeed, Mr. Edwards, if Jes... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Indeed, Mr. Edwards, if Jesus were here right now yours would be the FIRST money changing table Jesus would flip over...

What isn't a liberal... (Below threshold)
tas:

What isn't a liberal scandal in the eyes of conservatives? Now one of America's most well known politicians can't own a large home and enjoy a little privacy every once in a while? I suppose if Edwards acted like a pauper and lived in a shack then all of you would stop complaining... That is until you found out that Edwards spent unneeded amounts of cash on the luxury item of soft, two-ply toilet paper instead of the cheaper, one-ply crap that chaps buttcheeks. Then the next Edwards scandal all the blogs post about would be called Buttgate, and I'd see all kinds of sanctimonious about how dare John Edwards says he's for helping the poor yet he purchases expensive luxury items like quality toilet paper!

And through all of these "reports" I've seen not one mention of Edwards community involvement and donations to charities. Not one. Why is that?

So the story you have here is rich guy owns large house. Sorry folks, but that's not news. Plenty of rich people own large homes -- and many of them also believe in Jesus, too. Isn't it a bit hypocritical not to complain about them, too?

It isn't that he owns the m... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

It isn't that he owns the mansions. It is that he lectures the rest of us when he could have easily made due with a 15,000 square foot house instead of a 28,000 square foot one and then used the money saved to build a dozen or so Habitat homes.

I have not blogged about it, but here in NC it was reported that he took a healthy fee from UNC Chapel Hill for work in his "poverty center." He is a multi-millionaire and that poverty center is a campaign tool, and he lectures everyone about doing something to help solve poverty, but he still took money for it from the university. The university could have taken that fee and used it to provide a few scholarships to poor kids.

Edwards is for the little g... (Below threshold)
Bob Jones:

Edwards is for the little guy? Lee, you are so full of crap. Little guys have less doctors to help them now that Edwards ran them out of business using junk science and his ability to use his hair to pull on the heartstrings of a jury.

He's nothing but a successful huckster who has picked the pockets of every American through higher insurance premiums.

He's a pathetic little man just like you.

Go figure Johnny?J... (Below threshold)
914:

Go figure Johnny?

Jesus take the wheel!

LOL yes, Edwards is "for th... (Below threshold)

LOL yes, Edwards is "for the little guy." Do you know anything about how the personal injury industry works, Lee? I thought not.

Plaintiff's don't get taken (by a high-profile guy like Edwards) unless the injury is grievous enough (i.e., high damages), and the fault of the defendant provable enough, to warrant the investment of time and money in the business of litigating the case. It's a freakin business. And the plaintiffs aren't chosen on the basis of their disadvantaged socio-economic status. The "little guy" could be the son of the Governor.

Helping the "little guy" means actually giving something up (like your fee) to help someone that wouldn't be able to find it elsewhere (i.e., doesn't have another dozen PI lawyers hustling for the case).

Every lawyer with a conscience does pro bono work that matters. I don't know if Edwards does any or not -- but taking his 40% cut of a PI award is not "helping the little guy."

It's funny how this thread ... (Below threshold)
ChrisO:

It's funny how this thread morphed from criticism of Edwards for owning a big house to wild assertions about his personal giving. The right loves to claim that anyone who believes in global warmimg and owns a car is a hypocrite, or any Democrat who is wealthy is a hypocrite, because as we all know Democrats "hate the wealthy." Heralder had it right. I've never liked the accusation that supporters of the war should enlist, or make their children enlist. This falls into the same kind of demagoguery. It's so ironic to hear righties claiming that having wealth is a sign of evil.

Lori, who the hell are you to state that Edwards should have bought a smaller house and given the difference to Habitat for Humanity? Because someone is concerned about poverty in thsi country, they're supposed to give away their wealth? Oh I forgot, you've "heard over the years" that he's a selfish prick. Well, if that isn't proof, I don't know what is.

Idiot opens mouth and ins... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Idiot opens mouth and inserts foot.

"Because someone is concerned about poverty in thsi country, they're supposed to give away their wealth?"

That is just what the Dumbasscrats want to do with everyones money but their own. Raise taxes.

I don't care if he has a bi... (Below threshold)

I don't care if he has a big house.

I don't care if he has a couple of big houses.

But I don't have a big house and the impression that he seems to be including me and lecturing about Jesus is a bit like going to church and having a church lady with a dress cut down to her navel preach to me that I shouldn't wear nail polish because it's slutty.

Or maybe he's not talking about people at all but talking about government. About giving away someone elses money to the poor. My money and your money to the poor.

Maybe, ya know, we should get together and decide to give his money away to those who need it. Fund a couple of clinics or something.

Yeah, Bush grew up rich. So did lots of people. When he starts talking about how Jesus wants me to do this or that then I'm going to look and see if he is doing this or that as well.

When it comes to preaching or invoking the name of Christ it's almost always the case that the person who is trying to tell me what to do and using Jesus as a source of authority is selling their own agenda and not His.

Go to www.choosejesusrightn... (Below threshold)

Go to www.choosejesusrightnow.com & click on BUMPER STICKERS.

Edwards' law career is c... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Edwards' law career is characterized by his willingness to stand up and champion the little guy.

Like his opposition to a trust fund to give ALL victims of cerebral palsy equal money rather than allowing a few families to hit the jury jackpot?

Or his refusal to take the cases when the child died since rewards were much lower when the handicapped child wasn't there to parade around?

That kind of "Standing up"?

I'm sure the women of NC who now get unnecessary C-sections at greater risk to their health appreciate him immensely.

In my career I've never done pro bono work related to my career and employment. Does that mean I only care about amassing personal wealth? Of course not, the fact is that I volunteer in other ways, donate money to charitable causes, etc. - as does Edwards.

I'd be fascinated to see the documentation of Edwards' "giving". I mean, since you have them and all, you should share.

but I suspect that (a) Edwards' tax returns are a matter of public record, and (b) if his giving percentage was low Rush Limbaugh would make sure the world knew about it.

Maybe Rush, you know, doesn't care about it right now.

You said he gave. Provide some proof of it or admit you don't have a clue and just made it up.

Edwards can donate his time in other ways, such a speaking appearances, etc. Do you have any evidence that he doesn't donate his time, and only writes checks?

This is the same man who used a bad joke by Coulter as a means of fund-raising. No, I don't REMOTELY believe he speaks for free unless he's speaking for himself and until you can provide evidence he does so, you are making it up.

The burden of proof is on the accuser, folks - and so far all the accusers have come up with is photos of a couple of really nice houses.

You're the one claiming he's generous without providing evidence of it. We simply have his behavior while a lawyer in NC and his big house to point out that his message and actions aren't exactly in synch.

Lori, who the hell are you to state that Edwards should have bought a smaller house and given the difference to Habitat for Humanity? Because someone is concerned about poverty in thsi country, they're supposed to give away their wealth?

It seems rather inconsistent to bemoan the "two Americas" while you live as lavish a lifestyle as the czar did. It's sad to lambast Wal-Mart and then try to lean on one to give your kid an X-Mas present.

And through all of these "reports" I've seen not one mention of Edwards community involvement and donations to charities. Not one. Why is that?

Until you can prove they exist, we'll have to assume it's because they don't exist.
-=Mike




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