Because Fox News Channel's news coverage is balanced unlike CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, the AP, Reuters, the New York Times, and many other liberal news outlets, the the Nevada State Democratic Party is refusing to participate in a debate in Nevada that is co-hosted by Fox News:
The Nevada State Democratic Party is pulling out of a controversial presidential debate scheduled for Aug. 14 in Reno and co-hosted by Fox News, according to Democratic insiders.
The debate was being hosted by Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio, the Nevada State Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.A Fox spokeswoman didn't immediately return a call for comment.
Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards said Wednesday he would not participate in the debate, citing Fox's conservative ties as a factor. His deputy campaign manager, Jonathan Prince, sent an e-mail to the liberal website DailyKos, which was posted on the site.
Democrats like John Edwards are terrified of the nutroots so they clamor to gain their approval. And boycotting a Fox debate because Fox it's balanced in its coverage of the news makes them look like complete nut balls. But I hope they continue because it will only undermine them in the end.
Update: Roger Ailes has responded:
"Recently pressure groups are forcing candidates to conclude that the best strategy for journalists is divide and conquer, to only appear on those networks and venues that give them favorable coverage," Ailes said in remarks to the group, which honored him with its annual First Amendment Leadership Award.
Ailes noted that the phenomenon isn't new, "but (it) has been tried again this year with the added wrinkle that candidates are being urged to boycott debates because certain pressure groups want to approve the sponsoring organizations."Edwards' campaign acknowledged that part of the reason for his decision was Fox News' involvement with the televised debate, set for August in Nevada. The hard-lefty group MoveOn.org has been leaning on Dems to not participate in the debate, alleging that Fox News is "a right-wing mouthpiece."
"This pressure must be resisted as it has in the past," Ailes said. "Any candidate for high office of either party who believes he can blacklist any news organization is making a terrible mistake about journalists. And any candidate of either party who cannot answer direct, simple, even tough questions from any journalist runs a real risk of losing the voters."
"The public knows if a journalist's question is unfair," Ailes continued. "If you are afraid of journalists, how will you face the real dangers in the world?"
That is a legitimate question.
Update II: It's official. The Tom Collins, head of the Nevada State Democratic Party, and Harry Reid have canceled the debate. And they have the gonads to blame Roger Ailes. Here's their letter to the executive producer of Fox News' political programming:
Dear Marty,
A month ago, the Nevada Democratic Party entered into a good faith agreement with Fox News to co-sponsor a presidential debate in August.This was done because the Nevada Democratic Party is reaching out to new voters and we strongly believe that a Democrat will not win Nevada unless we find new ways to talk to new people.
To say the least, this was not a popular decision. But it is one that the Democratic Party stood by. However, comments made last night by Fox News President Roger Ailes in reference to one of our presidential candidates went too far. We cannot, as good Democrats, put our party in a position to defend such comments.
In light of his comments, we have concluded that it is not possible to hold a presidential debate that will focus on our candidates and are therefore canceling our August debate. We take no pleasure in this, but it is the only course of action.
MoveOn.org is thrilled, and are publicly giving the Democratic candidates their marching orders:
MoveOn.org quickly declared victory
"We hope this sets a precedent for all Democrats, that Fox should be treated as a right-wing misinformation network, not legitimized as a neutral source of news," Eli Pariser, executive director of MoveOn.org Civic Action, said in a statement.
Will Democratic presidential candidates salute their leaders and obey? I suspect they will, proving that MoveOn.org really does own the Democratic party.
Lorie adds: Democrats risk alienating millions of Americans, and just looking silly, when they try to cast Fox News as too extreme to even host a debate. It is the top rated and fastest growing cable news channel and Brit Hume is a very well respected journalist. They also risk looking like a bunch of fraidy cats. Conservatives endure questions from liberal journalists all the time. It makes it look like Dems can dish it out, but they can't take it.
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OT, Kim, you never answered... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Allen | March 9, 2007 9:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
OT, Kim, you never answered my question on what % of Americans own stock, and what their average income is. This is from a previous post who wrote, and was just wondering about it. Thanks.
1. Posted by Allen | March 9, 2007 9:03 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:03
2. Posted by wavemaker | March 9, 2007 9:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nearly half of all American households participate in the stock market.
Of Americans who do own stock, half have portfolios valued at $50,000 or less."
From the Federal Reerve Bank's Survey of Consumer Finance.
2. Posted by wavemaker | March 9, 2007 9:16 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:16
3. Posted by ptg | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You say, "it will only undermine them in the end." I ask, "Which end?"
I'd think it might be difficult to ascertain "what % of Americans own stock." Do you count folks whose pension plans or other retirement schemes like annuities hold stocks? Whole life insurance, where the reserves are invested in stocks. Are mutual funds counted? Cash reserves held by employers, invested in stocks for the indirect benefit of the employees? Cash folks hold in savings institutions that invest in stocks.
I'd guess that almost every net tax payer with a view to the future 'owns' some stock one way or another.
3. Posted by ptg | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:20
4. Posted by Jo | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Awwwwwwww, are the wittle bitty democwats worried that Fox may ask some tough questions?? Awwww, poor wittle babies.
Wouldn't want the wussies to be exposed to anything other than the softballs lobbed by their pals in the MSM.
Meanwhile the GOP candidates debate on any network or cable outlet that asks them, because they're use to the (liberal) MSM and have had to be ready for them since FOREVER.
You go soft when you're a democrat because you've never had to be that tough.
Long live Fox News. They may help the wussy democrat party actually grow up someday.
4. Posted by Jo | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:20
5. Posted by Langtry | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Seriously: if Republicans refused to debate in any forum sponsored by an organization or media outlet that was biased against them, there would never be any debates. Period.
The Democrats need to get over themselves.
5. Posted by Langtry | March 9, 2007 9:20 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:20
6. Posted by Hermie | March 9, 2007 9:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess the Dems prefer to have their positions filtered through CNN, CBS, etc, rather than have voters hear their actual words.
What is even more ridiculous, is that these 'debates' are usually just ways for them to rehash their standard answers.
For Edwards to chicken out means that he's run out of ways to avoid his hypocrisy regarding his 'Two Americas' mantra.
6. Posted by Hermie | March 9, 2007 9:26 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:26
7. Posted by Craig | March 9, 2007 9:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Because Fox News Channel's news coverage is balanced"
HAHAHA No wonder iraq is such a mess. You guys are completly out of touch with reality.
7. Posted by Craig | March 9, 2007 9:31 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:31
8. Posted by Knightbrigade | March 9, 2007 9:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Seriously: if Republicans refused to debate in any forum sponsored by an organization or media outlet that was biased against them, there would never be any debates. Period."
Exactly!! Why let the cry babies call the shots, NO debate on FOX, then NO debate ANYWHERE......
I'm tired of debating with these people. If no one understands the difference between RIGHT and LEFT by now, they never will!!
8. Posted by Knightbrigade | March 9, 2007 9:35 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:35
9. Posted by Jo | March 9, 2007 9:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fox will never let the whiny babies live this one down. This is totally humiliating to them. Now it's easy to see why the democrats don't want to fight terror. They can't even gear up enough toughness to be on FNC. OMG!!!
What happened to the men of the democrat party? When I was much younger, there use to be some.
9. Posted by Jo | March 9, 2007 9:47 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 21:47
10. Posted by Bindare | March 9, 2007 10:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What a great idea! now the right should boycott ABC,CBS, and NBC and we can have the debates on Utube.
10. Posted by Bindare | March 9, 2007 10:05 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:05
11. Posted by jpm100 | March 9, 2007 10:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well I don't want to hear about the President hand picking which organization interviews him. This just validated blacklisting reporters/organizations you don't like.
11. Posted by jpm100 | March 9, 2007 10:14 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:14
12. Posted by civil behavior | March 9, 2007 10:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They always say you should cut out the gangrene at the root.
Fox news is definitely a malignant growth. It's about time someone took a scalpel to it.
12. Posted by civil behavior | March 9, 2007 10:18 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:18
13. Posted by Scrapiron | March 9, 2007 10:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
FOX news has issued a statement. Something in the line of "Moveon.org has stated they own the democrat party, this proves it's true in Nevada".
No democrat has the brain power to think for themselves so someone must do it for them, even if it's someone that would slit they're family's throat at the first opportunity. Soros has sworn to destroy the government of the United States and turn it to communism. With the help of the BDS dhimmi's it may work. Talk about BDS progressing to insanity, this shows it's already happened to millions of the weak minded dhimmi's. Is there any other kind?
13. Posted by Scrapiron | March 9, 2007 10:20 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:20
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 10:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Gee you don't think the president of FOX news calling Obama a terrorist had anything to do with it?
Fair and balance smear
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 10:20 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:20
15. Posted by Baggi | March 9, 2007 10:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is perfect.
I hope the Republican party returns the favor.
15. Posted by Baggi | March 9, 2007 10:22 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:22
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 10:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I heard that Ann Coulter was the moderator.
16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 10:29 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:29
17. Posted by Michael | March 9, 2007 10:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess Civil Behavior does not believe in freedom of speech only lefty speech...typical fascist.
17. Posted by Michael | March 9, 2007 10:29 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:29
18. Posted by civil behavior | March 9, 2007 10:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
P.S. The more Democrats freeze out Fox News the bigger the squeal you'll hear from Murdoch. Squeal little piggy, squeal.
Oink, oink, oink.....all the way home.
18. Posted by civil behavior | March 9, 2007 10:30 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:30
19. Posted by Michael | March 9, 2007 10:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Dream on Cilvil Behaviour dream on. This hurts Dimos more than
billionaire Murdoch...idiot.
19. Posted by Michael | March 9, 2007 10:33 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:33
20. Posted by jhow66 | March 9, 2007 10:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey barneygoole you hypocrite piece of pig shit how about all the "nice" things that you moonbats call "your" President. Naaw that don't count. (barneyg' says he would have to check with the "moveon" crowd before he could answer.
20. Posted by jhow66 | March 9, 2007 10:33 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:33
21. Posted by jhow66 | March 9, 2007 10:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
uncivilb' makes it very clear what they are---COWARDS-they know they will get their ass kicked.
21. Posted by jhow66 | March 9, 2007 10:37 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:37
22. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Repubs subject themselves to all kinds of Left Media bias, but the timid Dems can't take FoxNews? I seem to remember the last time a Fox newsie appeared at a Prez debate, no Dems were molested, nor expired from the vapors.
Maybe John John Edwards and Nevada Dems really are "faggots," no?
Heh.
22. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:42 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:42
23. Posted by Allen | March 9, 2007 10:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wavemaker,
Thank you, but I was asking Kim. Over 50% own stock under 50,000 in value. Wow. What amount is the average of that? What is the average income of the 50% of these people?
Why can't Kim answer the question, why do you have to regurgitate something that I never asked you? I asked Kim because of a previous post she made.
I also asked WildWeseal for his understanding of the golden rule, and he hasn't replied either. Would care to regurgitate his answer also?
23. Posted by Allen | March 9, 2007 10:43 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:43
24. Posted by gattsuru | March 9, 2007 10:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That's impressive. The Democrats must have really been scared.
Yeah, yeah, the horrible local comments might call them the Democrat party instead of the Democratic party, or not automatically assume America is wrong. Given that Murdock himself raised money for Hillary Clinton, you have to be really lacking answers to avoid a million viewers worth of free publicity.
24. Posted by gattsuru | March 9, 2007 10:46 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:46
25. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Uh, Allen, I think you have the wrong thread.
Check your thread, perty pls.
25. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:48 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:48
26. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Civil Behavior has Beclowned himself, for lack of any knowledge of Murdoch, apparently.
Gotta love you Dims.
26. Posted by Mitchell | March 9, 2007 10:49 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:49
27. Posted by George | March 9, 2007 10:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The moonbats think Fox News is the right wing mouthpiece because they never fabricated anything like the fake Texas Air National Guard documents during the last presidential election.
27. Posted by George | March 9, 2007 10:50 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:50
28. Posted by LouDawg | March 9, 2007 10:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Gee you don't think the president of FOX news calling Obama a terrorist had anything to do with it?
Fair and balance smear"
Barney, what the crap are you talking about? Are you referring to Fox and Friends morning show hosts discussing the Inisght magazine contention that Obama attended a madrass when he was a little boy? That's a long way from the president of Fox News referring to him as a terrorist.
28. Posted by LouDawg | March 9, 2007 10:59 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 22:59
29. Posted by mantis | March 9, 2007 11:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
He's talking about this, where Ailes made made this joke:
And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?'
I'm not sure how widespread the outrage is among the left, but it's absurd in any case, as the dig is clearly at the president. And he certainly didn't call him a terrorist.
29. Posted by mantis | March 9, 2007 11:15 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 23:15
30. Posted by Alcudia | March 9, 2007 11:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Dems are a bunch of spineless pussies.
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, LATimes, etc have been slanted anywhere from left to FAR left for decades now.
Serious question for any lib that has the balls or brains to answer. (these leaves out most I know)
Name another major network, broadcast or cable who has more conseratives on than Fox has liberals.
I see way way too much of the disconnected left on Fox, wonder if any of the above mentioned lib statios will care to match their track record of opposing viewpoints to Fox's.
Run n hide you pussies, run n hide.
30. Posted by Alcudia | March 9, 2007 11:38 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 23:38
31. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 11:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey barneygoole you hypocrite piece of pig shit how about all the "nice" things that you moonbats call "your" President. Naaw that don't count. (barneyg' says he would have to check with the "moveon" crowd before he could answer.
Posted by: jhow66
If I invited the President to my house for nice discussion, then I called him a terrorist in public, should he still come over?
31. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 11:41 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 23:41
32. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 11:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You guys just don't get it. Let's look at what you guys have been defending in just one week:
-It is fine to call John Edwards a faggot
-There's no problem at Walter Reed
-Libby was railroaded
-Fire seven Fed. prosecutors in one day and replace them with hacks, there is no politics involved
-Violate the 4th amendment rights of tens of thousands of Americans, stop coddling terrorists
FOX news has lost viewers in the last two rating periods. You want FOX, you can have it. Watch it become the network of Hannity and Coulter.
Match the ratings of FOX against: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC.
Good luck with that, party of the inconsequential.
32. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 9, 2007 11:51 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 23:51
33. Posted by Alcudia | March 9, 2007 11:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
She NEVER called him a faggot, so maybe the problem is, besides your obvious and perverse need for attention, is you need to better your comprehension skills.
Speaking of fags, hows that Dem senator who was caught fondling a young boy? Isnt that worse than what Foley did with his emails n calls??
33. Posted by Alcudia | March 9, 2007 11:57 PM |
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Posted on March 9, 2007 23:57
34. Posted by Allen | March 10, 2007 12:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mitchel,
Kim posted the thread I first asked the question on, and since she couldn't reply, I asked her again on her next post.
Why are you regulation on something you may not have any idea on? Can't Kim answer her own questions, or did I hit a nerve? Just let Kim answer the question I asked her on her previous post.
Same as WildWesel, what can't he answer a question? Is it also because I hit a nerve?
34. Posted by Allen | March 10, 2007 12:00 AM |
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Posted on March 10, 2007 00:00
35. Posted by Alcudia | March 10, 2007 12:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fix is highest rated cable news network, end of story.
Show me the % of conservatove guests have one the lib networks, vs the libs on Fox. Can you do it trollboy, or will you prove yourself to be the insignificant attention starved friendless idiot we all think you are?
35. Posted by Alcudia | March 10, 2007 12:02 AM |
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Posted on March 10, 2007 00:02
36. Posted by Alcudia | March 10, 2007 12:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Allen, you mean like the unanswered question I asked the other day, 'since when do libs care about kids', that Lee and the rest all ran from.
Maybe you can step up and answer what network shows more Conservatives than Fox shows liberals.can you? will you?
36. Posted by Alcudia | March 10, 2007 12:05 AM |
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Posted on March 10, 2007 00:05
37. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 10, 2007 12:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Roger is a funny guy. Here is another one:
It is true that just in the last two weeks Hillary Clinton has had over 200 phone calls telling her in order to win the presidency she must stay on the road for the next two years. It is not true they were all from Bill.
Gibson wont apologies for saying that Obama attended a Madras. Hannity makes fun of his Selma speech. News Headline: Obama Smokes. FOX contributers call Obama "Hussein".
Breck Girl Edwards, on and on and on.
Do you really think that having the Dems pull out of the FOX debate is good for FOX or conservatives? How do you think the independents will look at it?
37. Posted by BarneyG2000 | March 10, 2007 12:06 AM |