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Las Vegas Review Journal Editorial Slams Democrats

Note: I just noticed that Kevin linked to this editorial in his post from earlier today. Sorry about the redundancy, folks.

The Las Vegas Review Journal has a great editorial that blasts the Democrats for kowtowing to the loony left and canceling the Fox debate because they think the cable network is too conservative:

Hard-core liberals can't stand the Fox News Channel. Passing a television that's tuned to the conservative favorite forces many of them to close their eyes, cover their ears and scream, "La la la la la la la la la!" Then they dash to their computers and fire off 2,500 e-mails condemning the outlet, none of which are ever read.


But liberals' aversion to Fox News has finally gone over the top. The Nevada Democratic Party had agreed to let the right-tilting network co-sponsor, of all things, an August debate in Reno between Democratic presidential candidates. Party officials were serious about drawing national attention to the state's January presidential caucus, the country's second in the 2008 nominating process. What better way for the party to reach conservative and "values" voters who might consider changing allegiances?

But the socialist, Web-addicted wing of the Democratic Party was apoplectic. The prospect of having to watch Fox News to see their own candidates would have been torture in itself. So they set the blogosphere aflame with efforts to kill the broadcast arrangement, or at least have all the candidates pull out of the event. Before Friday, the opportunistic John Edwards was the only candidate to jump on that bandwagon.

You'd think the deal called for having Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter mock the candidates between comments. No, even unfiltered, unedited, live debate between loyal Democrats couldn't be entrusted to Fox News.

The approach of outfits such as MoveOn.org is so juvenile it's laughable. Imagine if every political organization created litmus tests for news organizations before agreeing to appear on their programming. Republicans would have boycotted PBS, CBS, NBC, ABC, National Public Radio and The Associated Press decades ago.

You got that right. But now that there's a cable news network that's balanced in its coverage of the news, the liberals are throwing fits because they believe that all news is supposed to reflect their viewpoint and only their viewpoint. Additionally, Fox is not a "right-wing misinformation network" as MoveOn.org insists. The other networks are so liberal that the presentation of fair and objective news coverage looks conservative in comparison.


Comments (27)

Love it. They won... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Love it.

They won't live this one down. Who wants grown men and women who are AFRAID of Fox News and Moveon.org to be in charge of fighting terrorists?

Ann Coulter was wrong. She should have applied the F word to all the wussy democrat candidates.

The dhimmi's bow and scrape... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

The dhimmi's bow and scrape to George Soros and moveon.org. How will they stand up to someone with a gun or a bomb that will actually take joy in killing you in the same of some behind a million years, rabid dog religion? Oh, we already know that dhimmi tactic, Provide all the help possible to the terrorists, then Cut and Run and hope they kill you last.

I think Fox "News" is scare... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

I think Fox "News" is scared because people aren't fooled into thinking it's a news organization anymore.

what could you possible ima... (Below threshold)
Syllabucks:

what could you possible imagine they'd be afraid of? better ratings? higher advertising revenue? bigger audiences?

I think Fox "News" is s... (Below threshold)
marc:

I think Fox "News" is scared because people aren't fooled into thinking it's a news organization anymore.
Posted by: Publicus at March 10, 2007 11:23 PM

You would think that based on your argument in the other thread that is laced with hypotheticals and very little more.

"OMG!!!! it's FOX. They will run disparaging crawls under candidates faces as they speak..... OMG FOX!!!

Publicus, normally your remarks carry some weight, not on this issue. You've jumped the shark.

Syllabucks, lol. Poor Publ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Syllabucks, lol. Poor Publicus, I think he is the one afraid of people watching Fox News and finding out the truth.

Meanwhile, CBS just hired Rick Kaplan, great friend of the Clintons to head up the news division (or something like that). Should all of the candidates (except for Hillary) refuse to do any of the debates sponsored by CBS? Do the democrats really want to start this wussy cut and run precedent to EVERY event that comes across their lives they are afraid of?

I'm glad the GOP candidates don't have to resort to wussy reponses like this. They're tough because the MSM has been liberal and tough on them for years now.

Real men don't vote for these wussy democrats.

Mullah Cimoc say this for c... (Below threshold)
Mullah Cimoc:

Mullah Cimoc say this for confuse ameriki people keep them so stupid the selfish.

BUt democrat party of usa never say the true because the masters in tel aviv control usa media and not allow true for even one minute.

Ameriki so sick now. soon the collapsing of usa. god not liking when having so much money but loving the torture and killing lthe muslim.

Actually, what's most humor... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Actually, what's most humorous about this is seeing Kim repeatedly call Fox News "balanced", even while gleefully linking to a source that accurately identifies it as "right-tilting".

That, and watching Sock Puppet Jo trying to insult Democrats.

The links on media bias, in... (Below threshold)

The links on media bias, in the terms of the study (comparing media bias to congress) showed that of the media outlets studied only two (one of those Fox) were right of congress and *all the rest* were to the left of congress.

Fox and the other were something like 5th closest to the center (the other three close ones being to the left) and all the rest *farther* from center than Fox.

In other words (and I'll try small ones Brian) Fox leans right, but not all that terribly far. It's a tilt, not a full blown slide.

One thing we should remember, however, is that the left fringe believes with all their heart that the left leaning media outlets like the three major networks, CNN and just about any Newspaper in America, because they don't breathe hatred of Bush in their sleep, are actually *right wing tools*. Fox must seem like the anti-christ to them.

According to that study cited, Brian, Democrats refusing to appear on Fox is equivalent to Republicans refusing to appear on any one of the regular news networks.

Publicus in the other thread seemed to want to use The Nation as the opposite equivalent but in truth the equivalent left-tilt to Fox's right-tilt is places like ABC and NBC.

If Democrats don't have the... (Below threshold)
Xennady:

If Democrats don't have the balls to face Brit Hume how can they even pretend to handle terrorists? Pathetic.

Synova, nice attempt at sim... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Synova, nice attempt at simple words, but that will still be waaaay over poor Brian's head.

Xennady, that's what everyo... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Xennady, that's what everyone in the country will want to know. Adios democrats. We want a leader, not a coward for president.

Im a pragmatic liberal and ... (Below threshold)

Im a pragmatic liberal and I don't mind FOX news or even right leaning websites, newspapers, books or magazines. Realisticly, neither liberals or conservatives are automaticly right or wrong on all issues. I often agree with some conservative positions on issues like opposition to abortion or reasonable defense spending issues, and oppose some liberals on quick troop withdrawals without stabilizing Iraq.

What did seem to bother the Democrats was a joke by FOX personality Rodger Ailes about Barack Obama confusing him with Osama Bin Laden. It is this sort of nonsense attacks on the patriotism of Democrats that angers many of them.

I personally think the Democrats should have participated in the Nevade debate. When they are unfairly misrepresented they can at least claim equal time, much like the old fashioned "fairness doctrine" of yesterday.

Democrats actually could have gained a populist audience with appeals to the middle class on issues like opposing rampant job exports to labor cheap nations, opposing consumer ripoffs such as subprime mortgage scams or excessive credit card fees, and clamping down on loan sharks like "payday" loan companies. Even if the Democrats views on troop withdrawals from Iraq are out of tune with some voters, these populist consumer issues would find decent broad public support.

Paul Hoosen:Forgive me but ... (Below threshold)
Xennady:

Paul Hoosen:Forgive me but I don't think the attacks on the patriotism of many Democrats are nonsense.In fact I think one of biggest reasons why the left fears Fox news is the possibility that they might get asked questions they don't want to answer.For example remember how Bill Clinton lept at Chris Wallace when he was asked a tough question.I'd love to have Jack Murtha defend the "slow bleed" plan to a hostile questioner or have someone ask Ted Kennedy to explain why he was calling up the KGB offering to help undermine Ronald Reagan.Such questions will never ever get asked by the MSM.About those populist issues you mention...don't assume Democrats actually object to what you listed as any chance they get to actually take action they do nothing.When I worked at a union steel mill in the late 90s dozens of steel companies went under.The union naturally called up Bill Clinton.He could have done what GWB did-impose tariffs on imported steel-but instead we received a letter telling us how much he felt our pain.So I'll believe Democrats actually want to do something about China,credit card companies,etc after they actually take action not after they issue a press release complaining about whatever the GOP has or hasn't done.

Xennady, does George Bush h... (Below threshold)

Xennady, does George Bush hate wounded soldiers because he cut veteran's programs funding by $16 million last year or because of the Walter Reed problems? Absolutely not. No one suggests this. But some outrageously suggest Democrats are not patriotic because they wrongly support overly fast troop withdrawals from Iraq.

I personally disagree with many Democrats on this point. The U.S. has a new general in charge in Iraq, and he seems to better understand both the military and political problems there as well as a new Secretary Of Defense. I personally expect this administration to claim some sort of symbolic politically based "victory" at some point in Iraq, even if the job is not done, and then withdrawal troops. But regardless, this would leave the country more stable than too fast of a troop withdrawal. Many Democrats are merely wrong on this issue, not unpatriotic.

The war in Iraq is way past the argument points of whether it was wrong or we got involved there for the wrong reasons. The reality is now how to stabilize the situation enough and eventually leave the security situation up to those in Iraq.

On trade issues, Bush has generally been a "fast tracker". Almost daily, CNN's Lou Dobbs brings up examples of this including CAFTA, a free trade agreement with South Korea, and attempts to merge Canada, Mexico and the U.S. into some broader free trade zone than even imagined by Clinton's NAFTA mistake. The latest example is Mexican truckers being allowed freer transit of goods throughout the U.S. with the elimination of most red tape that prevented drugs or other illegal goods from coming through.

In this year's NASCAR races, as an example of "free trade" with Mexico and Canada, only the Toyota cars are assembled in the U.S., all the other cars originate from Mexico or Canada with Chevy, Ford, Dodge or other nameplates.

To argue against free trade... (Below threshold)
Robert the original:

To argue against free trade is to argue for protectionism.

Protectionism benefits the workers in certain industries while everyone else is the worse off. Although the lefties claim to represent the low income and the poor it is amazing how often these stated goals fall to the service of the unions.

WalMart is the champion of the poor, saving each family thousands per year. The unions would have them blocked from many locations, forced into union contracts and restricted from many Chinese imports. The result would be some increase in union jobs and power but everyone would pay higher prices including the poor.

NAFTA has resulted in higher growth in all economies. If you are for protectionism then you are also for lower growth, and higher prices.

If you want this, please provide a list of industries that you want to protect and how much you want to raise prices in order to do so.

Paul Hoosen, I note that it... (Below threshold)
Xennady:

Paul Hoosen, I note that it is often said by many on the left that GWB does in fact hate wounded soldiers and not just because they say he cut funding for this or that.Republicans are often called traitors for various reasons-"leaking" Valerie Plame's name for example.Jack Murtha infamously gave an interview in which he related how Democrats planned to cut off supplies and money to the troops in Iraq in such a way that their defeat would be blamed on GWB and not them.That looks like treason to me.The NY Times leaked the existence of a classified program to track terrorist financing even though they admitted it was legal.Yep,still treason.I could go on-say, about Vietnam and Jane Fonda-but you get the idea.More briefly,I believe many Democrats are traitors because they act to undermine the security of the US and aim to cause our defeat in war.About trade,I don't agree with Bush-period.

Paul Hooson:Wh... (Below threshold)
marc:

Paul Hooson:

What did seem to bother the Democrats was a joke by FOX personality Rodger Ailes about Barack Obama confusing him with Osama Bin Laden. It is this sort of nonsense attacks on the patriotism of Democrats that angers many of them.

Balderdash, you need to :read the quote in context. It came after a log series of jokes and it was pointed the Bush not Obmama.

EXCERPT:

John Seigenthaler and I are the same age. Look at how he let himself go.

[Laughter]

It is true that I said Britney Spears looked great at the Academy Awards. and I later found out it was Jack Nicholson.

[Laughter/ooohs]

It is true that just in the last two weeks Hillary Clinton has had over 200 phone calls telling her in order to win the presidency she must stay on the road for the next two years. It is not true they were all from Bill.

[Laughter]

And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?'

[Laughter]

Well, yes Robert I'm arguin... (Below threshold)
Xennady:

Well, yes Robert I'm arguing for protectionism.I would like to protect all industries operating in the territory of the United States.I yield to no one in my contempt of the AFL-CIO unions and I would cheer if they ceased to exist.Spare me the free trade dogma-for me this is a national security issue and that trumps the Walmart-actually-helps-the-poor and the China-is-our-friend nonsense that I don't care about.I'm willing to pay any price and bear any burden in order to maintain enough of an industrial base here to convince any potential enemy that they should not start a war with us.No,I'm not worried about that happening next month but the future continues for a long time-much longer than the memories of any free trader extend into the past.

Paul H.What did s... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Paul H.
What did seem to bother the Democrats was a joke by FOX personality Rodger Ailes about Barack Obama confusing him with Osama Bin Laden. It is this sort of nonsense attacks on the patriotism of Democrats that angers many of them.


Two points:
The subject of the Obama / Osama joke was Bush (i.e. Bush confusing the two). So, as to why this upset Democrats ...?

There have been some in the left wing of the Democrat party that have been pushing to have the '08 Presidential candidates boycott Fox News for a while. This, to me, smacks of the Democrats embracing the 'kook left' and, IMO, makes the Democrats look bad.

Well, yes Robert I'm ar... (Below threshold)
marc:

Well, yes Robert I'm arguing for protectionism.I would like to protect all industries operating in the territory of the United States.

How well did that work between the end of WWI and the start of the Depression?

marc:Between the end of WWI... (Below threshold)
Xennady:

marc:Between the end of WWI and the start of the depression? It worked very well,thank you.Is that really what you meant to write? You might be thinking of the Smoot-Hawley tariff which didn't come along until the depression was already underway and as a response to it.Nice try.

This is one of the saddest ... (Below threshold)
marty arrowsmith:

This is one of the saddest most deluded "stories" or better yet fantasies on this pathetic example of right wing web-crap that I have seen. Next you'll be saying the Iraq war horror was started by Clinton and that Katrina was the result of a socialist-communist agenda against America.

Ignorance is Strength.
Hate is Love.
Wart is Peace.

Why do you blind moronic right-wingers hate America sooooooooo much?

Go back to sleep and dream about other white trash like Anna Nicole and Britney.

Looks like inmate Arrowsmit... (Below threshold)

Looks like inmate Arrowsmith escaped the asylum and copped some meds.

The surrender-monkey ultra-left Kos-triches are hyperventilating on an hourly basis about whatever Fox says and does, which Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh have already discovered only politicizes two or three rational traditionalists [or 20-30]to listen to their message for every young susceptible mind the Kossacks seduce to their hysterical histrionic moonbattery.

The Nevada debate should actually raise issues of how the media is browbeaten by leftist crazies, but that ain't gonna happen in the NYT or its pilot fish!

The silk-pony Breck-boy airhead might gain a vote or two, but he's shallow agitpreppie trailer-trash with social pretensions.

We do see that Edwards know... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

We do see that Edwards knows he has no shot at winning a general election as he is making himself unelectable to anybody who is not a frequent guest of the psychotic swamp of the left blogosphere.
-=Mike

At least old Johnny has a b... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

At least old Johnny has a big house, and an big old carbon footprint.

So, big is good, in Johnny Land.

And FoxNews bad, bad, bad.

Xennedy,To protect... (Below threshold)
robert the original:

Xennedy,

To protect all industries is to protect none.

If we protected US clockmakers 150 years ago, all clocks would cost what Rolex watches cost.

If we protected the independent farmer 100 years ago, we would still have 75% of workers needed to grow food - and a much lower standard of living.

If we protected the Chicago TV workers 50 years ago, 19" tube sets would cost $ 2,000.00 and god knows what for the good ones.

If we prevent US tech companies from using offshore phone support we will give an huge advantage to SAP and others who will eat our lunch.

The point is that if you "protect" things the costs for everyone goes up, growth goes down and everyone gets a lower standard of living.

Now why in the heck would you want to do that?




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