Harry Reid was pretty confident going into the vote on his Iraq resolution:
"They may wind up with a surprise," Reid, a Nevada Democrat, told reporters. "More Republicans than they think may wind up being in favour of this."
What was the result: 48 - 50. Reid needed 60 votes for the resolution to pass. Ouch.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats aggressively challenged President Bush's Iraq policy at both ends of the Capitol on Thursday, gaining House committee approval for a troop withdrawal deadline of Sept. 1, 2008, but suffering defeat in the Senate on a less sweeping plan to end U.S. participation in the war.
Anti-war Democrats prevailed on a near-party line vote of 36-28 in the House Appropriations Committee, brushing aside a week-old veto threat and overcoming unyielding opposition from Republicans."I want this war to end. I don't want to go to any more funerals," said New York Rep. Rep. Jose Serrano, one of several liberal Democrats who have pledged their support for the legislation despite preferring a faster end to the war.
"Nobody wants our troops out of Iraq more than I do, countered Rep. C.W. Bill Young of Florida, who sought unsuccessfully to scuttle the timeline for a troop withdrawal. "But we can't afford to turn over Iraq to al-Qaida."
In the Senate, after weeks of skirmishing, Republicans easily turned back Democratic legislation requiring a troop withdrawal to begin within 120 days. The measure set no fixed deadline for completion of the redeployment, but set a goal of March 31, 2008. The vote was 50-48 against the measure, 12 short of the 60 needed for passage.
The Democrats just don't look strong on national security when they attempt to pull our troops out of Iraq, one of the fronts of the Global War on Terror, the day after we learn that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to not only being involved in every aspect of 9/11 but also to personally beheading US journalist Daniel Pearl.
"I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed is quoted as saying in a transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, released by the Pentagon.
"For those who would like to confirm, there are pictures of me on the Internet holding his head," he added.
It's shocking that the Democrats have the nerve to vote to pull our troops from Iraq when members of al Qaeda who are just as brutal and evil as KSM are trying to take it over and turn it into a terrorist safe haven.
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48 votes for!!!! snicker sn... (Below threshold)1. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 7:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
48 votes for!!!! snicker snort snort snicker-LOL.
Demos are in power now!!!! he haw LMAO.
Next.
1. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 7:17 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:17
2. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 7:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
48 votes for!!!! snicker snort snort snicker-LOL.
Hey thast's my line, just ribbin' ya.
Democrats latest plan goes down in flames. Again. Snicker Snort Snort.
2. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 7:20 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:20
3. Posted by Stupid dem leftest | March 15, 2007 7:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Damm it. We must have our Vietnam. I want our Vietman. Give me our Vietman. Dead bodies. Give me dead bodies. Lot's of dead bodies.
3. Posted by Stupid dem leftest | March 15, 2007 7:24 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:24
4. Posted by Mitchell | March 15, 2007 7:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I just saw my liberal neighbor in her kitchen window, watching the news of this, and her big old head exploded!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee Hawwwww!
The Kos Kiddies are going ape shit.
4. Posted by Mitchell | March 15, 2007 7:40 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:40
5. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 7:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Congratulations! More of those American troops that you "support" will die.
5. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 7:41 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:41
6. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 7:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Congratulations! More of those American troops that you "support" will die.
Posted by: Publicus at March 15, 2007 07:41 PM
Well a hardy FU from the mother of an American Soldier who worries every day that my son is overseas. You and your kind are nothin' but cowards. OHHHH fear Bush. OHHH fear whoever. Just not the jihadis who want you dead. COWARDS ONE AND ALL.
Now excuse me while I go put on the beef stew with bread for my love one. We will even say a prayer for the safe return of our heros.
6. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 7:50 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:50
7. Posted by Peter F. | March 15, 2007 7:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is the ONLY kind of defeat that I can cheer and find acceptable.
Congratulations! More of those American troops that you "support" will die.
Congratulations! You're an a-hole. Go die yourself, you tool.
7. Posted by Peter F. | March 15, 2007 7:54 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 19:54
8. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 8:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sorry eman if stole your line but could not contain my laughter. My son-in-law was there for over a year before getting wounded. Has been more then a year but he is now back at work in his civil job. Old "pubic hair" is # 1 on the list of _____________ (you fill in the blank)(I got dibs on asshole for the blank.)
8. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 8:01 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:01
9. Posted by xyz | March 15, 2007 8:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots.
9. Posted by xyz | March 15, 2007 8:05 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:05
10. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Can anyone here who thinks it's such a terrible idea to have the troops come home explain why it's a good idea they should stay?
10. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:12 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:12
11. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
One word, Iggy, Kampuchea.
Ever again.
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11. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:17 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:17
12. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | March 15, 2007 8:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Eat shit all you criminal frauds.
"Congratulations! More of those American troops that you "support" will die."
Go to hell Puby, More soldiers died while BJ was strokin his cigars trying to drop the ashes on a moving ash tray duck taped atop some interns head.
We already know Democrats don't support "AMERICAN TROOPS", because they will never be called "DEMOCRAT TROOPS".
12. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | March 15, 2007 8:21 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:21
13. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
One word, Iggy, Kampuchea.
So we are there support who exactly Kim? The Sunni or Shiites?
13. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:31 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:31
14. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
All that hatred for me all because I want our troops brought home safely now from Iraq. Incidentally, millions of Americans feel the same way...they want our people home now, in one piece, with no missing limbs and NOT in (unphotographable) flag-drapped coffins.
14. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:31 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:31
15. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why don't you go over there and figure that out, Iggy, instead of sticking your head in the sand over here.
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15. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:35 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:35
16. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It looks like Petraeus confronting the Shia in Baghdad has settled both factions down, at least locally. How about supporting him?
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16. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:36
17. Posted by Allen | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The hell with pulling troops out, send every damn one we got, along with the brass in the Pentagon, White House, etc. Take off the rules of engagement, let the troops kill em all.
Then Democratic gov't can be installed, (for the ones that weren't killed), then bring the troops home. Mission Accomplished (AGAIN). Hell with all the troops, it shouldn't take long as the VP said they are in their last throes. I mean, the VP wouldn't lie to us, would he about them Muslims almost being done and all?
17. Posted by Allen | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:36
18. Posted by Scrapiron | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
When you mention that more soldiers died during slicks joke of an administration than have died in the same time period while fighting a war it becomes so quite you can hear the crickets chirping from miles away.
The soldiers should stay in Iraq for the same reason we stayed in Europe, Japan (all of the surrounding islands) South Korea, and numerous other places. It's spelled "freedom' for the people.
The democrat party plan of we have our freedom, the hell with you, doesn't work for me, and evidently for a lot of the members of congress. The left wingers should be ashamed to show their face in public and to let their children know they are such self centered cowards.
18. Posted by Scrapiron | March 15, 2007 8:36 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:36
19. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 8:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey "pubic hair" if you were not such an asshole we might hate you so much.LOL Poor wittle lib. If you cannot see the big picture, then there is no need to waste our time trying to explain.
19. Posted by jhow66 | March 15, 2007 8:38 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:38
20. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | March 15, 2007 8:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Publius, we ALL want our troops home. We who support them the most want to let them do their jobs first. Leaving before accomplishing the mission (stabliizing Iraq against insurrgents) is surrender; leaving afterwards is victory.
20. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | March 15, 2007 8:40 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:40
21. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why don't you go over there and figure that out, Iggy, instead of sticking your head in the sand over here.
Nice non-answer, but I certainly lowered my expectations.
21. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:42 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:42
22. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
No. Nobody can. They've tried. To destroy WMDs. To dethrone a dictator (one of many, many in the world.) To create a democracy. (again, lots of non-democracies in the world.) Becasue Saddam was supporting Al Queda (not.) Oh, yes...to support the mission (wonderfully vague!) or to support our troops (painfully wrong.)
Nobody has ever given an explanation that justifies the deaths and injuries suffered by our men and women in uniform in Iraq. We were attacked by Al Queda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Now, we're in trouble even there...in large part because of this administration's bloody misadventure in Iraq.
22. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:44 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:44
23. Posted by Peter F. | March 15, 2007 8:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
All that hatred for me all because I want our troops brought home safely now from Iraq. Incidentally, millions of Americans feel the same way...they want our people home now, in one piece, with no missing limbs and NOT in (unphotographable) flag-drapped coffins.
And just WTF do you think will happen if we pulled out the troops now? Sunshine, lollipops and f***ing bunny rabbits everywhere? We leave and mass sectarian genocide the likes of which makes the last year look like f***ing Christmas happens. No question about it. And do you want that? Really? You want millions dead in a bloodbath? Or to handover a state to terrorists right smack dab in a country with the world's 4th largest oil reserves where they could severely f*** with the world economy? All so you can say "Look how bad Bush is. He did this!" Is that really want you want? Is that your big goal? Hmm, is it?
If it is, you're a sick SOB.
23. Posted by Peter F. | March 15, 2007 8:47 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:47
24. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Leaving before accomplishing the mission (stabliizing Iraq against insurrgents) is surrender; leaving afterwards is victory.
So how close are we to victory then? Is the road to the airport safe yet? Are more schools painted?
How about that oil revenue that was supposed to pay for the war?
Oh, and then there's this little matter with I lost count of how many billions of dollars that went missing.
At this rate, we might leave in 20-30 years.
24. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:49 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:49
25. Posted by Mike | March 15, 2007 8:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who still have their heads firmly implanted up there asses when it comes to the Bush administration. They cannot forgive Bill for a blow job but they can forgive this lying, cheating, thieving, murdering current occupant of the White House and his equally lying, cheating, thieving, murdering crew. How is this even possible?
25. Posted by Mike | March 15, 2007 8:49 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:49
26. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I genuinely appreciate your sincerity. I don't believe ANYONE posting here wants the troops injured or killed. But that is the inevitable result of leaving them in Iraq.
I sincerely believe that Iraq is the wrong war; it is a mistake. We DO need to fight sometimes and sometimes soldiers will die----but I want this to be very rare and only where and when it is absolutely necessary.
I do not begrudge your belief that the war in Iraq is winnable. But I (and many, many others) don't see it that way. We see a civil war. We can't drive the enemy out of Iraq, because a high percentage of those people killing our troops are FROM Iraq. The war is a terrible, terrible mistake. I just want the killing to stop.
I don't hate Bush. I don't hate anybody. But I want to stop people from doing things that I think are misguided, and unnecessarily destructive of human life.
I know most of you think I'm wrong...but this is the way I see it.
26. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:50 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:50
27. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 8:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Incidentally, millions of Americans feel the same way...they want our people home now, in one piece, with no missing limbs and NOT in (unphotographable) flag-drapped coffins.
Posted by: Publicus at March 15, 2007 08:31 PM
Seems to me ass wipe, You lost that vote it the Senate today. Thanks for playing, now here's a cookie.
By the way. It is estimated that there are 250 pinko commie punks in this country. How do I know. Glad you asked. Just check out the number of "ACTION ALERT PETETION" Sniker Snort Snort. You will see the appx. number.
Now let's look at the flip side shall weeeeee.
There are 1.6 mil employed in the US Military. Another 1 mil as support. Each and every one of these brave Americans has a mother, father, children, extended family, and friends.
Yes my freinds, do the math. The pinko commies may be loud, but the are not the American people.
Off to do dishes now.
Snicker Snort Snort.
27. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 8:51 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:51
28. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Peter F, there will be a bloodbath regardless if we stay or go. Are we supposed to act like some cop in a family dispute? The Saudis are going to funnel money to the Sunni, and the Iranians to the Shiites.
This is tribal redneck feuding that will happen one way or another and it's not as if the US govt didn't know this was going to happen, they just brushed it aside.
The kurds will do their best to stay out, but that's unlikely given how much oil they have under their feet.
We never should have invaded in the first place.
28. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:53 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:53
29. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yes, but you and I won't be paying for it. And the Senators won't be paying for it.
Some young guy who should be at home with his wife and children will be. He won't be coming home. Ever. And that is the problem.
29. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 8:54 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:54
30. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | March 15, 2007 8:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Our troops have been in Germany, Japan, and Korea for decades after the end of hostilities. We well may be in Traq for 30 years. however, if we leave before the job is done, the problems won't be over; they'll just be more difficult and expensive to fix.
30. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | March 15, 2007 8:57 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:57
31. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 8:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
ome young guy who should be at home with his wife and children will be. He won't be coming home. Ever. And that is the problem.
Posted by: Publicus at March 15, 2007 08:54 PM
WEll lookie there pub, you don't even understand the basics of military life. The discussons been had my stupid idiot. Wot A riot. Snicker Snort Snort.
31. Posted by eman | March 15, 2007 8:58 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:58
32. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The pinko commies
What decade are you living in? Or perhaps I should clarify, what decade are you stuck in?
Snickers is a great candy bar btw.
32. Posted by Iggy | March 15, 2007 8:58 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 20:58
33. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Peter F. --
My motive isn't to increase the carnage in Iraq. We have no control over the chaos there. There is going to be a bloodbath whatever we do. The damage was done when we took out a bloody dictator and created the conditions for a bloody civil war.
My motive is, as I've made clear, to bring our people home quickly and safely.
33. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:01 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 21:01
34. Posted by epador | March 15, 2007 9:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Its a blood bath. A Failure. Our dearest resources being wasted on a lunatic mission!
Its time to stop this anti-war movement disaster! Before more of our best and brightest Democrats go down in flames! Somebody must stop the carnage now!
34. Posted by epador | March 15, 2007 9:01 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 21:01
35. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Iggy...
I don't get the "pinko commies" thing either...
35. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:04 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 21:04
36. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 9:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's a measure of your naivete, iggy, that you expected an easy answer to a question you can't answer from here, or if you didn't really expect an answer, of your disingenuity.
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36. Posted by kim | March 15, 2007 9:08 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 21:08
37. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Message to Kim: Nobody is calling for a pullout form Afghanistan----which is where Al Queda and the Taliban were operating from when they attacked us. (NOT Iraq...or Iran, for that matter...) And now, we're losing control of Afghanistan...
37. Posted by Publicus | March 15, 2007 9:09 PM |
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Posted on March 15, 2007 21:09
38. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | March 15, 2007 9:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Can anyone here who thinks it's such a terrible idea to have the troops come home explain why it's a good idea they should stay?"
Why don't you just honor the request of our troops and just STFU? All of you.
38. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | March 15, 2007 9:15 PM |