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Why The Democrats Are Still Angry

There is just no pleasing the Democrats these days. They have taken control of both chambers of Congress, they have several candidates for President who seem to be doing well in the polls, and they even managed the combo of getting Mr. Libby convicted where there was no crime, while people on their side up to their ears in dubious undertakings are enjoying wealth and power unscathed. Yet the mood in Donkeytown is still one of anger and bitterness. And there are three good reasons why this is so.

The first reason is, of course, President George W. Bush. The Democrats have hated him for years, most since he first laid hand on the Bible and took the oath. I remember hearing threats that he would be impeached from the spring of 2001, not that there has ever been the slightest rational reason to pursue that course. Dubya has been called every name the Left can come up with, denigrating every possible human characteristic, and in recent times there has been a chilling thirst for blood from the Left, as many on that side have publicly pronounced a hope for his death by assassination. Yet he has not only managed to avoid the vast majority of traps set by the Left, and won re-election in 2004 by the first clear popular majority since his father*, Mr. Bush has steadily demonstrated that he is not concerned by the opinion the Left has of him. He fears and serves the Lord, he loves and serves the United States, and he loves and protects the ideals he has sworn to uphold. George W. Bush sleeps well at night, knowing he has done his best to do what was right, not what was easy.

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[* corrected. Thanks, yetranotherjohn ]

The President also rests well, in the knowledge that he has a trump card in his plans: Karl Rove. The Libby affair, like so many cartoonish plans from the Left, began in Democrats' plans as a way to get at Rove. Unable to accept the better qualities of President Bush, Democrats have assigned the strength of his victories to his advisors, chiefly Karl Rove. The attention given to 'get Rove' has thrown the Democrats off opportunity and into confusion more than a few times. Also, abilities, Rove will certainly play an important role in the 2008 election, whether as a valuable advisor to a serious candidate, or also as foil to Democrat strategies.

There is also one crucial reason why the Democrats have never been as eager as their rabid-frothing sector to impeach Bush, besides the fact that such an attempt would be a brazen frame job on completely false charges: It would lead to increased authority for Richard Cheney. If Democrats were somehow able to remove Bush from office, Cheney would become President, and there is no question that Dick Cheney would not be soft on the Left. The Democrats have begun to consider another nasty possibility; the deft politician has no desire to run for the Presidency himself, but like Bush is determined to protect America from its enemies, and if the Democrats attempted to smear the President with a campaign to weaken the Republican position in the 2008 campaign, the weak field of candidates presently available could well inspire Cheney to do one of two things - lead from within as a strong center to the party, or if necessary run himself. Don't laugh, but this is genuinely a fear in the DNC. Under nominal circumstances, a Cheney campaign would be insignificant, unlikely to develop the momentum needed to win the GOP nomination. However, if the Democrats changed conditions through a direct assault on the Bush White House, the mood among Republicans - and the voters as a whole - would change, and the new dynamics would create demand for new conditions. Even if his participation was limited to advising the party and a selected candidate, Cheney's experience and political ability could be devastating to the Left, and they know it. Cheney is the bear the Left must let sleep, for fear of his teeth.

Knowing this, the Democrats proceed in their futile rage, which is good news for America.


Comments (62)

"...Mr. Libby convicted whe... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"...Mr. Libby convicted where there was no crime."

So perjury is not a crime anymore AND the crime report the CIA released wasn't legit. You heard it here first - the brilliance of Wizbang.

Oh, so there's a date on Ar... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Oh, so there's a date on Armitage's trial. I didn't know.

Does this explain the perpe... (Below threshold)

Does this explain the perpetually cranky sourpuss libtard trolls that always come around here too? I swear, I've never seen a bunch of sullen-crab-assed little babies like Lee, pubes or the other sock-puppets that spew their unfunny little drivel here.

Since he felt it necessary... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

Since he felt it necessary to bring perjury into his article, I wonder what Mr Drummond's take was on the impeachment of Clinton for lying under oath. I hope you will respond and be consistent and tell us that the Republican House voted for impeachment when there was "no crime." I am sure you will tell me you are consistent about "lying" under oath. If so, you are a man to admire. If not - just another right wing hack, hacking and whining away.

Oh and I'm happy to tell you why this democrat is unhappy. It's really simple. We have one the most incompetent and corrupt administrations and one of the most corrupt political parties in power for the past 8 years. (Before the blood lusters respond, I voted for Reagan twice.)

lol, exactly Steve. Rig... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

lol, exactly Steve. Right now they are creating "D-facts" that will make them feel better after reading your post.

"..as many on that side hav... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"..as many on that side have publicly pronounced a hope for his death by assassination." DJ

Who in the FUCK are you talking about?

In other news: hey you know about how nobody was sending emails for 18-days because everybody was on vacation? Well funny thing, there were emails, and they prove that Alberto was lying, and Bush is standing by him.

That "W" really cracks me up.

Don't it always seem to go,... (Below threshold)
kim:

Don't it always seem to go,
That ya' don't what ya' got 'til it's gone.
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I've seen some bizarro worl... (Below threshold)
Ted Parsons:

I've seen some bizarro world fawning for authority figures before, but this one takes the cake. I sometimes wonder if this site isn't some Andy Kaufman-esqe parody, then after reading some comments it's abundantly clear you are true believers.

I hope Bush does sleep well at night. Never before has there been a more politically tone deaf, inept, and completely incurious president and the hysterical part is that his most ardent supporters see this as being tough and resolute. His style is one of not listening to things he doesn't want to hear, and how on earth does anyone see this as a plus? If you are the POTUS, you better be able to hear bad news because that comes with the job.

But Bush 'fears the Lord' so I guess we can give him a pass on all his shortcomings.

I wonder, where are all the GOP senators and congressmen rushing to his defense lately? It seems only radical blogs like this and talk radio hosts are his only base now. Even during the last elections, Bush was a hindrance to GOP candidates and the smarter ones didn't want to have anything to do with him.

When it's all said and done, Bush will be remembered as one of the worst US presidents in American history. And, no, is has nothing to do with my personal opinion of him. I don't hate the man, as I do not know him, but I believe his actions and failed method of governing will hurt the nation for years to come.

barneyRUBBLE:W... (Below threshold)
marc:

barneyRUBBLE:

Who in the FUCK are you talking about?

Profanity? My such passion when it's uncalled for, should we add you the DJ's list?

Come on barn, you hang out with the DUmmies and with Dkos, you know damn well many in those merry band of haters have wished for or actually called for the death of Bush.

Then there is that "little matter" of some hollywierd nutcase making and releasing a movie with Bush's death as the sole theme.

barneyRUBBLE, factually challenged. As Always.

Actually, for the first 40 ... (Below threshold)

Actually, for the first 40 years of his life, Mr. Bush served alcohol and cocaine, not the Lord. In the last few weeks it was Libby,then Walter Reed, now the prosecutor firings where no one in this adminstration can tell the truth about anything. None of that sounds like the conduct of any Christian that I know of. But regardless, the emergency Iraq funding bill that the Democrats voted for is a complete mess. It puts unnecessary restraints on recent attempts to restore order in Iraq with the new security measures by forcing a dealine for troop withdrawal. If Mr. Bush vetos the bill, then funds for basic arms for the troops run out in three weeks. This bill includes absurd pork spending for shrimp, peanut and spinach interests, totally unrelated to the Iraq war and questionable uses of public money to bail out private companies business woes that they brought on themselves. How any Democrat can say with a straight face that this bill is a good one is simply outrageous.

The public is not really well served by either political party right now, and any argument that one party is somehow the better of the two is simply an exercise in complete absurdity.

It's the public that should be angry, stuck with a crummy lame duck administration that needs to be gone right now, and Democrats in Congress who pass a crummy Iraq funding bill loaded with stupid pork, an unrealistic troop withdrawal deadline, and threatens funding for our troops for vital supplies within three weeks. One heck of a government.

No marc, I don't, and the "... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

No marc, I don't, and the "Hollywood" movie was a made in Britain, so please tell me of all the people calling for Bush's assignation?

Yes, I think FUCK was called for when DJ makes an outrageous statement without citation as he did.

Most of the trolls here hav... (Below threshold)

Most of the trolls here have a Mr. Sparkle complex.

I'm disrespectful to you Wizbang! Can you see I am serious! Get out of my way all of you! This is no place for conservative loafers. Join me or die!"

barneyRUBBLE:Y... (Below threshold)
marc:

barneyRUBBLE:

Yes, I think FUCK was called for when DJ makes an outrageous statement without citation as he did.

Considering I gave you one example (but you want/need to quible about where and who it was made by) that plainly is centered on someone's delusional wish for Bush's death you're flat out wrong.

Given you very rarely provide citations to some of your "outrageous statement[s]" (wanna talk about Irans possession of an "attack sub" again?) I'd say the kettle has called you black.

BTW, here's another example. And another.

I see we have some more tra... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

I see we have some more transfers from the daily kos. Ted, I will address you directly. You think (and I use that term losely) Bush is a bad President? Not since Kennedy has there been a half honest Democratic President. Period. At lease Kennedy understood the job of President. It wasn't to get rich like Clinton. Who made $43 million in speaking fees since leaving office. Johnson lied to get us into the Viet Namese war. Then he lost the opportunity to win an eaxily winable war by fighting it in the south rather than the north. Carter will go donw in history as the worst American President ever. Just recall those 444 days. Clinton. Just the tip of the iceberg, but the Chinese were at least 20 years away from developing MIRVed ICBMs before Bill generously, after having received illegal campaign donations from Red China, supplied them with Cray Super Computers. This allowed them to miniturized their warheads and MIRV and imporve the accuracy of thier missles. Of course if they are used, no one will be alive to point there finger at the cowardly traitor William Jefferson Clinton.

Paul, I just got to read th... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Paul, I just got to read the lies you posted here. Your proof that Bush ever used coke is based on what. You believe Clinton never inhaled?Since you are new here, we do not suffer liars very well. By the way, ponder this. Who keeps Bill Clinton warm on the nights he is away from his delightful spouse, Hillary when he is on the road giving speeches? I heard it was anything in skirts. Second. How much do you think the Clintons will charge to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom if they regain the White House?

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III, You'... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III, You're right about Clinton, the Loral tech deal was a disaster, but there is no bigger China booster than W. He's hunky-dory with the PLA in Long Beach, and at both ends of the Panama Canal, and he's allowing the PLA to run OUR off-shore container inspection facilities in the Bahamas.

Now Mexican fright trucks are being waved through the border with legitimate access of 200 miles. W WANTED free range to Canada, but will now wait for the completion of the Spanish-owned Corridor through the heart of the nation, Mex to Canada (and you have read SPP.GOV, and http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/


Just to set the record stra... (Below threshold)
yetanotherjohn:

Just to set the record straight, George H.W. Bush won a clear majority in 1988. No doubt Reagan's popularity helped him achieve the majority, but it wasn't since Reagan. The fact that Clinton never achieved a majority of the popular vote is well noted.

bryanD[lusional]<e... (Below threshold)
marc:

bryanD[lusional]

He's hunky-dory with the PLA in Long Beach,

Here's a snapshot of COSCO's history of activity in U.S. ports. In 1992 the U.S. Federal Maritime Commission fined COSCO $400,000 for paying kickbacks. In 1993 a COSCO ship was caught transporting 87 pounds of heroin. In 1996, a Justice Department sting operation exposed an attempt to sell 2,000 AK-47s to California street gangs, with the promise of delivering missiles to knock a 747 airliner out of the sky.

Hmmm... all prior to the Bush administration, how can THAT BE!

Simple: An Executive Order signed by President Clinton in January of 1998 that gave COSCO total control of the former U.S. Naval Port Facilities at Long Beach.

Let's not ignore history BryanD[eluional]and go the the real root of the problem.

And BTW nitwit...and at... (Below threshold)
marc:

And BTW nitwit...and at both ends of the Panama Canal

In 1977 president jimmy carter (lower case intentional) and the Panamanian leader, General Omar Torrijos Herrera, signed treaties that gave control of the canal and all its operations to Panama in 1999

In 1997, the Hong Kong-based Hutchinson Whampoa company bought port facilities on both the Atlantic and Pacific sides of the canal. The company is highly rated by international maritime experts for its management of other such facilities around the world, but some US conservatives and former military men say it is a front for the Chinese Peoples Liberation Army. Company spokesmen deny any connection with the Chinese military.

Oops... no Bush there either!

BryanD, go have a nice Saturday evening dinner with a loved one it might be time better spent than posting BS.

Gee marc, way to slap him u... (Below threshold)

Gee marc, way to slap him upside the head...with facts.

Brilliant parody post, DJ! ... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Brilliant parody post, DJ! When I started reading it, I was afraid it was going to be another delusional attack on Democrats. But I loved how you opened with noting the "anger and bitterness" supposedly prevalent on the left, and then proceeded to write one of the most bitter, angry, and resentful right-wing rants we've seen on these pages in a long time. (Unfortunately, I don't think many of your Bushie compatriots got the joke.) Well done!

I think Cheney could (and p... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

I think Cheney could (and probably will) turn the democrat party upside down by resigning (for health reasons of course) and allowing the president to name a replacement that would take the election in 08 by storm.

Until I read these comments... (Below threshold)
Mark:

Until I read these comments I was planning to vote for a democrat in 2008. Now, that won't happen till hell freezes over.

marc

marc: All true, regarding t... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

marc: All true, regarding the Carter through Clinton sell-out. But it continues still. And Bush wouldn't have it any other way.

A SPANISH toll road through the USA? All Bush.

A North American "security-economic zone"? All Bush. (Well, Bush is only one of three, now. Which is the point!)


bryanD[lusional]<e... (Below threshold)
marc:

bryanD[lusional]

marc: All true, regarding the Carter through Clinton sell-out.

What continues still? That "at both ends of the Panama Canal?"

Ah-NO that's a lie.

Perchance you meant Bush is still "hunky-dory with the PLA in Long Beach."

NO AGAIN and yet another LIE by you. Your truth batting average ain't so good there guy.

marc, I must have missed yo... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

marc, I must have missed your review of these Bush initiatives (could you revisit?):

http://spp.gov/

http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/

Hugh - You wrote: ... (Below threshold)
Actual:

Hugh -

You wrote:
Since he felt it necessary to bring perjury into his article, I wonder what Mr Drummond's take was on the impeachment of Clinton for lying under oath. I hope you will respond and be consistent and tell us that the Republican House voted for impeachment when there was "no crime." I am sure you will tell me you are consistent about "lying" under oath. If so, you are a man to admire. If not - just another right wing hack, hacking and whining away.

Clinton perjured himself to deny a U.S. citizen of her civil rights. He was defending himself against a charge of sexual harassment from one of his former employees.

The charge was later settled out of court by Mr. Clinton paying the plaintiff $850,000.

The plaintiff was later audited by the IRS, at that time headed by Margaret Milner Richardson, a political appointee and a longtime associate of both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton.

In summary, it looks like you're wrong. Again.

bryanD - I looked ... (Below threshold)
Actual:

bryanD -

I looked at those two links you provided. I think you need to point out what you find objectionable in them.

Thanks.

"and they even manage... (Below threshold)
dalleceneri:

"and they even managed the combo of getting Mr. Libby convicted where there was no crime"

Amazing! Perjury and obstruction of justice aren't crimes unless one leaves a cum stain on a blue dress and lies about it.

You Bangers & pseudo-libertarians truly have no belief in the rule of law.

Perjury is not a crime when... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Perjury is not a crime when a repug does it! Have you lib's got that? And the repug wingnuts say it is when a Demo does it. GOT IT? Two different standards here, so live with it. Libby lied, more than once and was found guilty of it.

Good old Jack Abramhoff (sp) didn't do anything wrong and neither did the "Duke". And all the appointed officials already convicted, under indictment, etc. didn't do anything wrong. Hell, even the Rep Ney from Ohio didn't do anything wrong, but he's in jail also.

It's all a left wing plot, as Republicans never do anything wrong. Oh yes, let's not forget the Demo Jefferson and $90,000.00 in the freezer. And while on the Demo's side of crap, DON'T FORGET CLINTON!
Everything that has happened is Clinton's fault. Once you understand that, no problem.

You also gotta remember that Bush speaks to God, but only when he's sober. And all these good old Republican Family values. What part of the family values said to lie? The repugs, especially good old Newt said that values count. Well just lately he is saying that politics should not include their family life. WOW. He didn't say that when Monica was blowing Clinton, and Newt was having an affair at the same time.

But spin it away, I, like a lot of people, love a good laugh when the repugs twists the facts to say someone didn't do it, say it, or hell when all else fails, BLAME CLINTON. God, I love it.

Actual, I'm a nationalist a... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Actual, I'm a nationalist and believe our relations with other states should always be to our benefit. These schemes (spp, etc) require a levelling as integration occurs. By levelling, I mean 1)economic, which will mean an averaging-out of GNP with the inevitable GDP drop, viz. Canada to Mexico, and 2)a sublimation (at best) of the US constitution (with its "inalienable" ,God-given rights), within an ad hoc corporate socialist framework wherein no popular representation is considered.

While you're speaking for "... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

While you're speaking for "the Democrats", and explaining what they're thinking and feeling...maybe you should actually ask a Democrat?!

Ok. Here it is...

I don't care about George W. Bush one way or the other. I care about what's being done; I would feel the same way whoever was doing it.

I don't like our young men and women, often recruited just out of high school, with no experience in the world, being sent to their deaths in Iraq. I don't like them coming back without limbs...or in body bags.

I don't like that, allegedly to spare peoples feelings, the flag-draped coffins are hidden from view. This makes it easier for their deaths to be seen as an abstration...and to continue sending more to die.

I don't like that my country engages in torture, and runs secret prison camps.

I don't like that our civil liberties are being eroded. The purpose of having our government, according to our founders (who I revere) is to secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity. Now, I fear we are seeing it slip away.

I don't like that our government continues to fail to protect us, and let bin Laden go free----STILL, all these years since he killed nearly 3,000 people, most of them at the WTC...a pair of building I knew and loved (thought many considered them ugly). To me, they were always beautiful, and had a simply majesty.

I would feel the same about these things no matter who was president or what his party. If you remember, opponents of the Vietnam war didn't change their minds once Nixon took over from Johnson. They were against the war----this is how I feel now.

So, although I don't speak for all Democrats, if people here are sincerely interested in what Democrats think I have given one such person's view. But, if you prefer the cartoon version offered by Mr. Drummand, please ignore this posting.

Publicus, you were proven w... (Below threshold)
DJ Drummond:

Publicus, you were proven wrong before your post, as I was proven right, by the overwhelmingly consistent and spittle-flecked response from Democrats who visit this site, and responded to my article.

For my part, it is your set of gross exaggerations and outright misrepresentation of events and facts which is the 'cartoon version'. But there again, that just reinforces my point that the truth is inconvenient for the Left.

Publicus, you were... (Below threshold)
Publicus:
Publicus, you were proven wrong before your post

Proven wrong about what? That mine is an actual viewpoint of a Democrat? My point was that you are not a Democrat, and don't understand Democrats well-enough to explain their point of view.

I am aware that you don't agree with my assessment of the war, or what's happening to civil liberties, or whether waterboarding torture. That's fine.

But...you suggest that Democrats are obsessed with George W. Bush. That's not it at all. We are concerned about what's happening----not who's doing it.

If we could reverse all the things we believe are bad for our country, and George W. Bush remained President, I would be very, very content.

Zelsdorf, certainly Clinton... (Below threshold)

Zelsdorf, certainly Clinton inhaled and lied about it. Bush was convicted of cocaine possession back in 1971, and had his record sealed after he completed public service at the Martin Luther King House in Houston, but some like writer Kitty Kelley report abuse of cocaine as late as 1988 or 1989 by him along with continued alcohol abuse. And your point is?

Most of my comment attacked the outrageous abuse of the Iraq War emergency fund bill by the Democrats, though. The Democrats pulled this nonsense, while with the Bush Administration it's been three weeks of "Scooter" Libby, Walter Reed and Gonzales nonsense, and lies about these things. The latest lie by Gonzales is that he attended a meeting at the White House related to the prosecutor firings but mislead Congress and the American public on this account. This is the same Attorney General would believes that all persons in court should tell the truth.

This isn't the type of government that the American public should expect. There's a lack of adult supervision in Washington, where infants are running the government. There is no lesser of two evils between these two groups.

the truth is inconvenien... (Below threshold)
Brian:

the truth is inconvenient for the Left.

Oh, yes... Cheney, with his approval ratings in the mid-teens, would be "devastating" to the left as a presidential candidate. In whatever scenario you want to spin it, your "truth" is quite amusing. More parody posts, please!

Are you ready for Thompson/... (Below threshold)
kim:

Are you ready for Thompson/Cheney?
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Why change dreamers in the ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Why change dreamers in the middle of the warses?
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Kim,What mixture of ... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Kim,
What mixture of whatever you're on really shows some pipe dreams. Thompson, yes, Cheney, FUCK NO. You haven't realized that Rove and Cheney are the puppet masters pulling the strings on the "Decider-in-Chief". Please wake up.

Let me summarize this threa... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Let me summarize this thread:

DJ: (a bunch of lies, misrepresentations, and exaggerations that show how wonderful, God-fearin', and America-lovin' Bush is)


The Left: (truths, facts, accuracy)


DJ: You see?! I was proven right!!

Gotcha, Mike. Bush is CEO ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Gotcha, Mike. Bush is CEO of the world and adding value daily for all the stakeholders, even the resentful ones. Cheney is his COO; why change him in mid-war?
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What DJ Drummond is utterly... (Below threshold)
Herman:

What DJ Drummond is utterly incapable of understanding is that we on the Left want to impeach both Bush AND Cheney for crimes against humanity. Heck, if it were really well-coordinated, we would wind up with San Fran Nan as President!

The problem with the argume... (Below threshold)
Robert Stein:

The problem with the argument presented below is that it argues from the viewpoint that the Canal in Panama is ours to do with as we please. Yes we built it after the French failed, but Panama is a sovern country, not some extension of the US. You wonder why we have terrorism is the world? Its from meddeling in the affairs of other nations. Switzerland does not have these problems. If the US would drop this additude that we can just do anything we please to anyone we want, I think we would have more cooperation and not have to resort to military action to get what we want. Panamanians resented the US in the Canal Zone, much the same way we resent the influx of immigrants into our own country. Much the same way some of you have stated your alarm at Chinese controlled Navel Base at Long Beach California.
This is what kills me about Bush supporters. Alarm at foreigners controlling some of our ports, because of the obvious security risk, but seemingly incapable to put themselves in others shoes, and realize that this is how the Panamanians felt about the US in their country. That is the kind of bullshit attitude that starts needless wars and bankrupts nations and accomplishes nothing. Take the blinders off.


And BTW nitwit...and at both ends of the Panama
Canal

In 1977 president jimmy carter (lower case intentional) and the Panamanian leader, General Omar Torrijos Herrera, signed treaties that gave control of the canal and all its operations to Panama in 1999

In 1997, the Hong Kong-based Hutchinson Whampoa company bought port facilities on both the Atlantic and Pacific sides of the canal. The company is highly rated by international maritime experts for its management of other such facilities around the world, but some US conservatives and former military men say it is a front for the Chinese Peoples Liberation Army. Company spokesmen deny any connection with the Chinese military.

Oops... no Bush there either!

BryanD, go have a nice Saturday evening dinner with a loved one it might be time better spent than posting BS.

This is nothing more than a... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

This is nothing more than a perjury trap for Karl Rove.

They couldn't get Rove before, so they'll try again.

Truth is NOT the goal here.

Democrats could give a damn about the truth.

Bush caused global warming ... (Below threshold)
nikkolai:

Bush caused global warming and made the rest of the world hate us. The muslims never bombed us before he got here and killed all their children. He hates black people, and bombed the levees in New Orleans. He and Cheney plotted 9/11. And he outed the precious super secret spy PlameWilson. So there...

Sinerely,

American Lisping Fighting Leftwinger

And by the way...we suck. A... (Below threshold)
nikkolai:

And by the way...we suck. ALOT.

Sincerely,
American Wimpy Lefty

p.s. but we support the troops.

2)a sublimation (at bes... (Below threshold)
Taltos:

2)a sublimation (at best) of the US constitution (with its "inalienable" ,God-given rights), within an ad hoc corporate socialist framework wherein no popular representation is considered.

Just FYI there are no "inalienable" rights in the constitution. In fact most expclicitly state how they can be overruled.

When it's all said and d... (Below threshold)
Taltos:

When it's all said and done, Bush will be remembered as one of the worst US presidents in American history. And, no, is has nothing to do with my personal opinion of him. I don't hate the man, as I do not know him, but I believe his actions and failed method of governing will hurt the nation for years to come.

Anyone who would place Bush anywhere close to the worst president in history is either letting partisan feelings cloud their judgement, decidedly in need of some history lessons, or mentally deficient.

The worst president of all time by any measure has to be Harrison. I mean jeez the guy only lasted 30 days in office.

Taltos, you're probably rig... (Below threshold)

Taltos, you're probably right about Harrison being the worst president ever. William Henry Harrison was the most hated military figure of the American cavalry, who dealt terrible defeats on Native American Indians instead of seeking ceasefires or peace treaties. One especially controversial Harrison raid was really a massacre of remaining tribe members of several tribes. Harrison was so effective that American Indians were reduced in number from about 6 million at the time of the Pilgrims to only about 200,00 by the end of Harrison's commands and raids. It was really a genocide campaign more than anything, comparable to the Nazi slaugter of the Jews in Europe. Many Indian tribes such as the Navejo were peaceful people and were never warlike, yet most Indian tribes suffered huge losses, many because of Harrison.

An American Indian who practiced magic put a curse on Harrison and the American presidency that an American president would die in office every twenty years. Only Reagan, and so far Bush have survived this Indian curse, which might now be broken. Harrison caught pneumonia during his inaugural event and never really enjoyed his presidency before dying within 40 days.

"Only Reagan, and so far ... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"Only Reagan, and so far Bush have survived this Indian curse, which might now be broken."

Broken for a new and more diabolical curse affecting the entire population. IT's called "The Clintons".

So lets see. Drummond says ... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

So lets see. Drummond says democrats got Libby convicted where there was no crime. I challenged him on that. He doesn't respond. (Needless to say it was a pretty stupid assertion).

Then he goes on in a comment to accuse those of us on the other side of "gross exaggerations and outright misrepresentations" and I'm not even talking about the trite/inane and intellectually weak "you hate Bush" defense. Then you have the balls to to say "truth is inconvenient for the left."

I used to give you some respect. I was dead ass wrong in that. You are, as I pondered in my earlier comment, nothing more than a right wing hack, hacking away.


Lefties absolutely hate his... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Lefties absolutely hate history as much as GW. The 2000 elections brought the lefty haters of all things GW into the forfront and they stayed there. The Plame matter stayed in the news because of lefties. No one convicted of outing a spy. Katrina was terribly handled by Nagin and Blanco yet the left blamed GW. GW fired his appointees within his rights and the lefties keep it going. Within 6 months of the Iraq war the word quagmire came out. The left hates GW much more then they love our country. Immature really. But fact. ww

Didn't BarneyGoogle and com... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Didn't BarneyGoogle and company demonstrate the anger on this thread? They always prove our point if we wait long enough--


"What the fuck . . .!" Barneygoogs, please, take a valium. Or, better yet, eat some Menu brand dog food.

"Bush...fears and serves... (Below threshold)
dalleceneri:

"Bush...fears and serves the Lord, he loves and serves the United States, and he loves and protects the ideals he has sworn to uphold"

The author of the above delusional pile of crap has to be suffering from Alzheimer's.

Bush serves no Lord other than the Lords of Wealth.

And if there were a Lord, shaving been erved as Bush has, Bush would likely have been struck dead the moment he placed his hand on the bible in January 2001 for blaspheming his his Lord.

Rather, the implication of that silly quote above is that there is no god.

How literal you can be, dal... (Below threshold)
kim:

How literal you can be, dalleceneri, when the need arises. Was it not Thor's Day?
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Now Mexican fright truck... (Below threshold)
Kaptain Krude:

Now Mexican fright trucks are being waved through the border with legitimate access of 200 miles. W WANTED free range to Canada, but will now wait for the completion of the Spanish-owned Corridor through the heart of the nation, Mex to Canada (and you have read SPP.GOV, and http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/
Posted by: bryanD at March 24, 2007 06:07 PM

John Hawkins destroyed this concept on Right Wing News back in December here(http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2006_12_31.PHP#007098). Sorry, my HTML-fu is weak, so I'm including the link's address in with my comment, just in case.

As for the comment Posted by: Publicus at March 24, 2007 10:32 PM. I can understand what you mean, and I can see where you are coming from. I even agree with you to a certain extent. Had 9/11 not happened, I would be a lot closer to agreeing completely with you.

But 9/11 did happen, and as much as we dislike it, our world has changed. Now, either we change with it, and survive; or stay the same, and most assuredly die or suffer horrible casualties. Only you can make that choice.

As for Paul Hooson's allegations that President Bush is a coke-head: um, you are aware that the guy who alleged that is a drug dealer. Serving time in prison. For dealing drugs. Who dangled this little tidbit just weeks before the 2000 election. In order to get better conditions. In prison.

Oh, yeah, sounds like a perfectly trust-worthy source. No ulterior motive, nosireee!

For my part, it is your ... (Below threshold)
hansel2:

For my part, it is your set of gross exaggerations and outright misrepresentation of events and facts which is the 'cartoon version'. But there again, that just reinforces my point that the truth is inconvenient for the Left.

It must be truly sad to live a life where one is as willfully ignorant as the poster of this article. It must be terrible not to know how easily you have become a useful pawn for an administration that preys on people like you - people who find loyalty for "teams" and parties that, in reality, are indifferent to them - rather than finding loyalty with the ideal of democracy - and the Constitution - and the elements of our government that make this country great.

What people like the neocon hacks who post on this site will never learn, until it's far too later for them to make a difference, is that this President - and this administration - are making them look like the real fools for believing their lies - lies that are as plain to see as the nose on any face. Lies that every thinking person in this country has already discovered and every other country in the world has seen for some time.

Being "hard" and beating your chest and supporting an administration that has proven themselves incompetent in every possible way (in fact, the only ones refuting this incompetency are the measly 25% who seem to find their way to blogs like this), is the height of being a traitor to this country. Ignorance is essentially what makes those who prop up George Bush traitors - and the fact that you people don't even know how traitorous you are -and think you are quite the opposite in fact - is the saddest joke of all.

Wake up. You're being lied to. Just like Johnson lied to you. Just like Nixon lied to you. Like Clinton did. George W. Bush is the worst perpetrator of this and you people just need to get a grip. And if you continue to support him, you know what you are.

Oh God, another skeptic.<br... (Below threshold)
kim:

Oh God, another skeptic.
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Shuuuu. "dalle'" smells wor... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Shuuuu. "dalle'" smells worse each post. Please wash your "socks". You sound just like another troll that posted under another monicker.

>The worst president of all... (Below threshold)

>The worst president of all time by any measure has to be Harrison. I mean jeez the guy only lasted 30 days in office.

That's because he went to the Inaugural improperly dressed for the weather and got sick. Really sick, as it turned out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Harrison

I know, the 30 days bit was... (Below threshold)
Taltos:

I know, the 30 days bit was a joke.

Mebbe not so sick; had he p... (Below threshold)
kim:

Mebbe not so sick; had he partaken of the right fungus he mighta knocked that pneumocuccus on its tukkus.
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