Ouch.

I think he does protest too much. The truth must hurt hacks/flacks/propagandists like Wallace. But in fairness and giving equal time, the same holds true for Keith. Tho, I admit I love keith like you righties love The Fox Propaganda News, sponsored not in part by in its entirety The George W. Bush White House.

Hugh, the difference between Fox News and Olbermann, is the word 'news'. Olby shouldn't pretend he is anything other than a leftist talking head. He was bad doing sportscasts and now he is unwatchable except to leftwing fringe.

(T)o be lectured about news by Keith Olbermann is like being called ugly by a frog.

Hugh, you are ate up with BDS as bad as anyone in the country. Seek professional help before the sun comes up or you may wake up in a padded cell with no windows.

Now wasn't this post about two other brain dead people on the news???????, Wallace and what's his name, not Hugh?

When O'Reilly threatened to have "Fox Security" track down a caller to his radio program for merely MENTIONING the name "Olbermann", I (of course) had to see what all the fuss was about.

I haven't watched The O'Reilly Factor since. Well, I do flip over to compare their editorial decisions (Spring Break Friday and Spring Break Monday at O'Reilly; scintillating! In 1956.)

Kat:

There is no difference. If you think Hannity and (c)ombs, Wallace , O' Reilly and Hume are newscasters then I have a bridge in the desert to sell you.

Hugh, they are pundits not reporters. However in O'Reilly's case he does have the credentials of a journalist. KO is just a whackjob. Oh just like you.

Forget Trump vs. Vince McMahon. I want to see a real cage match between O'Reilly and Olbermann.

If you folks can't figure out Olbermann is not a reporter then I have 2 bridges for sale.

I'll say it again. he's a bloviator. I like him. You don't. You like your bloviators. Just admit that's what they are all. Not so hard is it?

Kat, we right-wing nuts prefer Olbermann, too, because the Top 5 story format makes it difficult to "happen" not fit in an uncomfortable story, plus it Moves Right Along.

Plus O'Reilly had to settle out of court for those obscene phone calls to his Lady Producer. $2 million, I heard. And a draft dodger who plays tough now, is gauche. And MAN, does he play the tough-guy to the hilt. Strictly Wienerville.

bryanD,

Wow! I would think that a draft dodging womanizer would be right up your alley!

Olbermann is simply catering to the Democrat's large 'professional wrestling fan' base. Compare the (raaah!) speech given by the head of the DNC, Howard Dean, with any of 'pro wrestling' monologues ('We're gonnna do XX then we're gonna do YY raaaah!') and you'll get a glimpse into the average Democrat voters mindset.

Sheik Yur Bouty,
Don't make me break out my DD 214! (That would be twice this month here!)
And we have a different definition of womanizing. I think Bill was Peterizing!

Sheik Yur Bouty,
PLEASE! No peterizing queries! I won't answer.

Wow, that was timely.

Just like "W" Chris can't come close to his daddy..
When Chris challenges Republican BS with the same energy he uses against Dems..then he might be something...nowhere does Obie pretend to be a reporter.. nor does anyone think he is...
I am assuming no one believes that Chris W. is a reporter..(when was the last time Chris was"in the field)..
By the way..for glimpse into the average Dem mindset
how about finding me even a FOX poll that shows AMERICANS..over half don't believe the BS any more..
of course this can be discounted
http://www.upi.com/ZogbyPoll/view.php?StoryID=20070327-081940-8407r

see...some of you need to comprehend that
A)Your support of Bush/Cheney/Gonzales is in the minority of Americans.

B)You can whine..rant..against the Dems...but they control the House..elected by Americans..

C. You all point at Dems as hypocrites..(and many are)..but..please..don't look at Rudi's family values..or the flip-flapping sound of Mitt and McCain..after all..like Chris Wallace..why
disturb what you believe in..(of course Wallace gets paid big money to keep his head in the sand)(just as does Obie..only his head is above the sand)

Lorie, irregardless of your desire to go ballist w/ Keith Olberman, your attitude bespeaks volumes about the truth you dare not hear as you persist in your defense of the irredefnsibleic.

Lorie, this is just another case of truth that cannot be tolerated. No wonder you hold the positions that you hold. Can one say Ostrich w/ your behind in the air?

The fact that Olbermann apparently never seems to have any opposing viewpoints on his show, unlike most of Fox News btw, just reiterates what scared little clown the boy really is.

He must be snipped.

Lorie, the only thing that unremitigates the absurdity of Chris Wallace is the bilge that explodes from from the Fox Noise sphincter, Brit Hume.

If this crap is what passes for news analysis w/ a wingnut, it is testimony to why you believe as you do.

Too bad you were forced by Sputnik to give up your hold on a flat Earth, though I suspect that you still turn into a quivering mess when a black cat crosses your path

Hugh

I can't remember any instances of Wallace being any hack/propagandist. What instances you referring you to?

Lorie, irregardless of your desire to go ballist w/ Keith Olberman, your attitude bespeaks volumes about the truth you dare not hear as you persist in your defense of the irredefnsibleic.

Just FYI the word irregardless has been in the english language since at least 1912. Granted that it's usage contradicts it's literal meaning though that's hardly a rarity in a language as chimaeric as modern english is.

Boy, what I read on this post explains a lot. No fucking wonder some of you, Hugh, Bryan, Nogo Postal, delleceneri, and last and surely least, BarneyG 2000 contintually expouse the most ridiculous postition of any topic. We have 90% of MSNBCs watchers right here. What we have is a bunch of losers supporting a loser. Check out the market shares. Good thing in this country allows idiots like you all to run free.

dalleceneri

which bilge from Britt Hume do you find offensive??

Too bad you were forced by Sputnik to give up your hold on a flat Earth, though I suspect that you still turn into a quivering mess when a black cat crosses your path
Posted by: dalleceneri at March 27, 2007 06:20 PM

Oh, here we go...the "truthers" know everything and if we don't agree with their world view, we're flat earthers. I don't agree with the concocted and arrogant notion that man causes global warming and that the earth itself and sun are responsible....is that flat-earth too?

The problem is that in our effort to preserve diversity of opinion in the comments we accept what often amounts to sheer stupidity from the left.

Toleration is a good thing but, like all good things, is best in moderation. We know of a number of readers who have either stopped reading all comments or have left the site altogether because of the sludge factor.

Which probably suits the lefties just fine.

Fox numbers are down and Count Downs' are up. Keith is kicking ass in the money Demos, and the stuff shirts at Fox are loosing Ad revenue. You see their desperation by the changes they are making. O'Reilly has been reduced to showing soft porn and H&C went through a set design. Not to mention Hannity is way-off his game.

Ya know, it says a lot of about your personality when the former network you used to work for and really helped put on the map as it were--in this case, ESPN--doesn't even invite back for its "Reunion Week" in 2002. You've got to be a real assclown personality wise for that to happen.

One other thought: Olbermann was a great sportscaster, that was his schtick. He was really, really good at it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that he was the Michael Corleone to Chris Berman's Don Corleone when it came to the fast-talking, dry wit, stylistic, whipsmart ESPN Sportscenter anchor: a perfect successor, if not slightly better than Berman.

But then he got cocky and self-important, quitting ESPN in a huff, apparently. Before the show he has now, he struggled to find a niche that would accept him like ESPN audiences did. But like in sports, it's rare, very rare, for an athlete to make the transition from one sport to another, let alone excel at it. (Bo Jackson being the most recent and famous athlete who excelled in two sports. He blew Deion Sanders out of the water in baseball.) The point is, Olbermann has tried to take his successful ESPN sports schtick to a "news" program and the transition has been, well, somewhat successful. Kinda. Sort of. But in the end, anyone who's paying any kind of attention sees a sort of sad, angry, charmless and bitter old version the Keith Olbermann who's trying to pass himself off as something more than what he is--which is a sportscaster. And in the end, he's just kind of pathetic.

Fox numbers are down and Count Downs' are up. Keith is kicking ass in the money Demos, and the stuff shirts at Fox are loosing Ad revenue. You see their desperation by the changes they are making. O'Reilly has been reduced to showing soft porn and H&C went through a set design. Not to mention Hannity is way-off his game.
Posted by: BarneyG2000 at March 27, 2007 07:32 PM

Considering the source, I'd like to see those "money" demos you're talking about. Last time I checked, Fox News is still beating CNN and MSNBC combined and Olbermann still has a ways to go to come even close to O'Reilly.

Journalisticlly speaking Olberfool couldn't start an arson fire in a match factory.

And he was only marginally better on ESPN.

bryanD[elusional]

When O'Reilly threatened to have "Fox Security" track down a caller to his radio program for merely MENTIONING the name "Olbermann"

Got any other proof of that assertion beside your "word?" Like a transcript, or link maybe?

barneyRUBBLE:

Wow, that was timely.

And another pseudo Wizbang editor-in-chief is heard from.

nogo postal:

By the way..for glimpse into the average Dem mindset how about finding me even a FOX poll that shows AMERICANS..over half don't believe the BS any more..of course this can be discounted

From your poll:

48.9% gave the president a grade of "poor"
10.7% "fair"
26.3% "good"
14% "excellent."

Looks to me like your math skills match your abilty to use logic tainted by BDS.

The majority resides with the fair, good and excellent category.

And truth be known the dems you seem so highly supportive of have steadily gone downhill in job approval rating since "taking control" in Jan.

It's a riot watching ther moonbats go into a spitting, foaming, eye-rolling rage when Fox news is mentioned.....Is this part of BDS, along with the usual BUSHITLERHALLIBURTONROVE rant?

I'm still waiting for one of the moonbats to provide concrete examples of Wallace's bias.

Chris is a blessing to his father; correcting the wrongs of the old man.

He's got a sense of humor, too (unlike his liberal brethren).

Zelsdorf--you have the magic decoder ring.

It is this little group of lefty misfits here that are the "losers," just like Olby and his circus act of sycophants on his "program."

They're all a bunch of damn losers.

"which bilge from Britt Hume do you find offensive??"

Most of what spews forth from that sphincter of a mouth on his face.

Hume couldn't make it on ABC so he had to resort to uysing his schtick on a propaganda network.

Hume couldn't make it on ABC so he had to resort to uysing his schtick on a propaganda network. Posted by: dalleceneri at March 27, 2007 08:16 PM

And NBC,CBS,ABC and CNN are NOT propagandists for the left? Good grief you're thick in the head.

No decoder ring Mitchell, just the ability to smell Bullshit when it is present. A decent education, when and education was an education, and the ability to think for myself. The ability to recognize and understand truth helps. I know what is is.

SteveofNorway...what you object to is anything that doesn't substantiate your mbrainwashing. You shit out what was left of your brains years ago. You obviously have no basis to evaluate anything that doesn't fit your training and snf you obviously can't even weigh anything against your brainwashing.

I am amazed that you have enough neurons to sustain life not to mention reflection.

I believe O'Reilly beats all the others combined. So nice try, losers.

And it doesn't matter who has quit watching O'Reilly. Millions have not and he has the libs running scared. He exposes the left and they hate it. Just ask those lawmakers who are blocking Jessica's Law in their states how effective he is. Just this past week Maryland passed Jessica's Law after O'Reilly exposed the villians blocking the passage. Way to go O'Reilly.

Yahooooo!

Brit had a nice long career over at ABC, and then he had enough of the bias. He does great at Fox.

Brit has had the last laugh. So has everyone at Fox. Thank you Rupert.

Considering the source, I'd like to see those "money" demos steve

Here they are:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/index.php?cat=6

Bill O'Reilly just got some more bad news (pdf). His hairline isn't the only thing that's receding. The February ratings show that he has the slowest growing program (11%) of all the cable news primetime programs in the 25-54 demographic. And he is clearly bringing down the Fox network because the same is true for their whole primetime block. This despite the fact that Greta Van Susteren had the 2nd highest growth (49%) after Keith Olbermann's Countdown (61%).

It's revealing to look at the trend over the past year. The chart below shows the Factor's percent growth/loss year over year for each of the last five ratings periods. And just for fun, let's throw in a comparison to Countdown

Jim,

Your comment was interesting. I'm sorry some have left but I can sure umderstand why.

I'm sorry too that the lefties plan to disrupt and distract seems to be working. Debate is one thing but the juvenile stuff from those names we know so well is another.

It is a waste of time to read it much less respond.

dalleceneri, whatever the hell that means, like most of the cockroaches, your incoherent rambling is par for the course. Why don't you try to complete a thought that isn't irrational and ignorant before typing.

Barney, nice try, but Olbermann dreams of O'Reilly's ratings.

It's great to see you try so hard to puff up his competitors. We laugh, because it's amusing

Meanwhile I just watched O'Reilly who is gleefully reporting yet ANOTHER false story in the NYT, about the supposed Iraq soldier, who it turns out has never even been in Iraq. That coming on the heels of that Katrina victim story, who as it turns out, was wanted on welfare fraud and didn't even live near the Katrina area, the false abortion story in San Salvador, and the false editorial a couple of weeks ago about a child hurt in the Boston immigration raids, which after an investigation by O'Reilly's team, turns out to not have happened.

All the stories had to be humiliatingly retracted by the now laughed at NYT. Corrections at the NYT are such a joy to read. Sweeeeeet!

Now, let's see, what were you guys saying about the propaganda at Fox News??!! Oh I see!! You mean the propaganda of the MSM that Fox uncovers and exposes.

Glad to clear all that up.

marc, Your know-it-all license is being reviewed. Please reconcile yourself to the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fBz_Dz_GR8

Good point Jo...for all the talk about Fox's slippage...it's NOTHING compared to the absolute tailspin the newspapers of this country are going through. You want to talk about plummeting libtards? Look no further than the liberal rags that are best kept for birdcage lining.

Bill O'Reilly just got some more bad news (pdf). His hairline isn't the only thing that's receding. The February ratings show that he has the slowest growing program (11%) of all the cable news primetime programs

Oh...I get it now. If O'Reilly picks up 100,000 new viewers it is only an 11% growth.

If Keith Olbermann picks up 1000 new viewers it's 61% growth, therefore he must be winning.

dalleceneri

All your drooling babble aside - I'm still waiting for examples...

"...cockroach", "irrational"," ignorant", "you're thick in the head", "scared little clown..." And that's just on this page tonight.

These are just a very few of the words used by a person smugly complaining about "sheer stupidity from the left and how the left has dragged this blog into the "sludge."

Addison, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Look up hypocrisy in your dictionary, you'll probably see your own picture.

One more time moonbats, we're waiting for examples of Fox's bias, Chris Wallace being a GOP plant, and Brit Hume's "schtick".

Thes examples would look like:
1) doctoring photos of Beirut being bombed by the evil zionists
2) trumpeting the destruction of the levees in NO via explosive charges
3) faxes from a kinkos in TX about the President's NG service
4) reporter in the boat in New Hampshire boo hooing the devastating flood, as two sclubs walk past in knee-deep water
5) bombastically reporting the murder and rape in the Superdome.

Just thought you may need some examples so you know what partisonship looks like.

Addison, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Look up hypocrisy in your dictionary, you'll probably see your own picture.

Ditto, Hugh.

An expected response Peter, but it wasn't me who raised the "sludge" factor and got off topic. Why don't you have the intellectual honesty to be, well, honest? Tpp much to expect? Or will you change the subject again? And again, and......

Considering the source, I'd like to see those "money" demos steve
Here they are:
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/index.php?cat=6

And here's the actual ratings from a source that isn't obviously biased.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

I'm sorry too that the lefties plan to disrupt and distract seems to be working. Debate is one thing but the juvenile stuff from those names we know so well is another.

It is a waste of time to read it much less respond.

Posted by: robert the original at March 27, 2007 09:02 PM

It's a shame, because there's a lot of stimulating discussion still going on, I'm sure. But it's like trying to walk through a pasture without stepping in anything. Just stay on the road, don't try to cut across. It's not as aggravating.

An expected response Peter...

I don't give a rat's patoot who started what, all I'm saying is you've got NO room talk, bub....*shrugs*

Oh...I get it now. If O'Reilly picks up 100,000 new viewers it is only an 11% growth.
If Keith Olbermann picks up 1000 new viewers it's 61% growth, therefore he must be winning

Jumpinjoe, Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah.... you nailed it. That's some real fancy spinning there from ole Barney. I LOVE IT!

Poor Barney.

wave_man, Nappy time!

bryanD[elusional]

marc, Your know-it-all license is being reviewed.

Thanks for your concern however, no need for a review, I have been honored with a lifetime license.

You are aware all talk radio is on, at minimum, a seven second delay?

Given that indisputable FACT can you provide what that caller said during that delay period and when he was cut off the air?

For that matter can all the sources Olberfool uses in support of his rantings, i.e. Al Franken, Howard Stern, and the far left rocky mountain news say definitively what was said by the caller?

A lot of threatening talk can be uttered in 7 seconds or more. In short Olberfool or none of those he's called as "witnesses" to this alleged crime haven't the first G-damn clue.

But perhaps you can provide some proof anyone had "Fox security" knocking at their door.

Hugh:

"...cockroach", "irrational"," ignorant", "you're thick in the head", "scared little clown..." And that's just on this page tonight.

Correct Hugh, you're right to pull the hypocrisy card on many here.

However given you're promise made about such behavior during your guest post here at Christmas time you ain't got a leg to stand on.

"Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah" by "jo"

I KNOW you're prettier than you "sound"! (You jus' GOTTA be!)

marc: I heard it with my own ears. Live.

Caller:"...Olbermann" (click and threat)

The youtube clip is accurate.

In defense of your defensiveness, it WAS truly a BIZARRE thing. "Fox security"! And being THAT worked-up over a distant competitor!

We know why he went to Teachers' College instead of 'Nam. The guy probably runs from the limousine to his door! At full speed! On a sunny day!

Latest rating on Drudge-- O'R over KO 6 to 1 at 8:00PM--O'R at 4:00AM rerun still beats KO's 8:00 PM show 3 to 1. O'Reilly's 8:00PM slot beats all PSNBC er MSNBC combined. Oh by the way Olbie's new nickname is "thumbtack". (for clarifaction ask women that he had come to his hotel room)

BryanDirtbag--that last batch of meth you made must have been bad. You are making no sense. Come to think of it that is not so unusal.

Olbermann is a baffoon. That is a baffled babboon, not meaning to defame babboons everywhere. If you watch Keith for any thing other that to see just how far off their rocker the left media can get. You are in need of serious therapy and accompaning meds.

bryanD[elusional]

marc: I heard it with my own ears. Live. caller:"...Olbermann" (click and threat) The youtube clip is accurate.

Ah...huh. First os all the Youtube tripe you linked to only provided "OlberFool...click"

Now you "testify" you heard it live and readily admit you heard a threat by the caller.

So... what are you saying... no wait I KNOW what you are saying....

... that is more important to trash the shows "star" because you believe he reacted to a "distant competitor" than react in the appropriate way to a call the you ADMIT contained a threat!

Ya know, I have a bit of fun with you by mangling your chosen moniker.

I don't think it's funny any longer and my version (bryanD[elusional]) is way too close to the truth.

All these comments from the loony left, and still not one single example of Chris Wallace's bias.

And this "dalleceneri" fella is making Barney look like the model of moderation.

wavemaker:

just friggin google wallace and bias and you'll find loads and loads. Now I know some of it will lead you to sites that aren't for right wingers. But there are plenty of quotes and transcripts.

After that just shut up about it. The truth is all the bloviators on all the stations are biased one way or another. Both sides.

I thought Keith Olberman was doing parody (and overdone at that). You mean, he is for real?

Hugh:

just friggin google wallace and bias

OK, I did.

One of two things happened. Either you're talking out your anal orifice or you're hoping no one calls you on it.

First page 10 entries. Only 3 come close to what you purport and 2 of them are pieces from Barney Frank (yea no agenda there!).

Second page of ten... again 3 plus 2 on father Mike Wallace's LIBERAL bias.

You're batting .333, good for baseball. not so good at proving your point.

So marc are you of the view that Wallace, Hume, Hannity, and O'Reilly are journalists with no bias? I mean I'm curious about your view of this. As I have said several times here I think all the stations have bloviators and all of them have a bias. Or is it your view that just the "liberal" ones have a bias?

No mention of you gettin' busted for "google fraud" (not to mention the fraud you lean on at youtube) but you can easily attempt to move the goalposts to "what do you think" about something that isn't the subject of the thread, i.e. my thoughts on media bias.

I'll make this real simple, you're right everyone has a bias.

However, if you think for a single hot second anyone, including that clown Hannity who is by far the worst partisan on Fox (yet balanced against equally clownish co-host), is anything close to olberfool your a bigger fool than olberfool.

Well Marc, thanks for the kind words. I answered the issue of Wallace and goggling him provides plenty of examples. Or, try Media Matters which has quotes and transcripts. Now before you blow a gasket...they have TRANSCRIPTS. Yes, of Wallace.

As to "fools", I don't consider myself one. Nor, since I really don't know you do I consider you one. But I sure as hell know Hannity is a liar and a more biased soul on earth I can't even imagine.

So, do we have degrees of "fools'? I mean is Hannity like a 2nd degree "fool" and Obermnan a 1st degree "fool.?" Or is one a 3d degree and the other a 2nd? Can you differentiate fool(ness)? You must be a marvelous, adept, insightful human being.

By the way I really like your website. I'm a NASCAR fan from before most people ever heard of it. Was at the Vegas race this month.

Hugh:

By the way I really like your website. I'm a NASCAR fan from before most people ever heard of it. Was at the Vegas race this month.
Posted by: Hugh at March 28, 2007 05:24 PM

well, at least we have one thing in common. Early 60's is when NASCAR first caught my eye and first race attended was the 1964 Daytona 500.

Well hugh, this is interesting.

Media Matters first item on Chris Wallace is this piece on Wallace's interview of Trent Lott on the AUSA firings. Their claimed bias is based upon this:

But Wallace did not raise the position on executive privilege that Lott articulated during the Clinton administration -- that the president should not be able to claim executive privilege unless national security considerations are involved.

The post seems to me to demonstrate the standard method of television interviewing: when interviewing a proponent of one side of an argument, you ask them questions thrown by the other side. The fact that the interviewer doesn't have time in a two-minute clip to dig deeper into the minutae of the facts doesn't reflect bias of the interviewer, is reflects the realities of television.

I see George Stephanopolous do this every morning on GMA. Funny, I google "media matters & george stephanopolous" and I get nothing.