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Lots of guns, no butter

Things that the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority has money for:

Things that the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority does not have money for:

  • Honest, competent police that might protect precious greenhouses left behind by Israeli settlers and purchased as gifts for the Palestinian people
  • To rebuild those greenhouses after they were looted and destroyed
  • Sewage systems

The world gives roughly 1.2 billion dollars a year to the Palestinians, with well over half that coming from the United States and Europe. Nice to see our money going to such good use.


Comments (32)

Hey, you gotta have priorit... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Hey, you gotta have priorities when you're spending money like that! And you can't judge THEIR priorities by your parochial and antedeluvian standards! How dare you impose YOUR judgements on them!

Seriously, though, they're totally messed up. The Palestinians haven't passed up an opportunity to screw themselves over in the last 40 years. And until the funding teat dries up, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I blame it on the Joooos!</... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

I blame it on the Joooos!

/Jimmy Carter

Good thing they elected a t... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Good thing they elected a terrorist group to govern them. Seems to really be turning things around.

Can we just move them to a better spot already?

In all fairness, the money ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

In all fairness, the money was allocated to build a sewage treatment plant (according to the UN). The construction was delayed over security reasons (according to the UN).

AND YES it was delayed because Hamas uses the area to launch rockets into Israel, and Israel counter attacks into the area.

Just wanted to set the record straight that it was not about money, it was about the Geo-Religo-Polito bull crap of war.

Where did the money eventua... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Where did the money eventually go, did the UN have any record of that?

Where did the mone... (Below threshold)
Where did the money eventually go, did the UN have any record of that?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Now, Now Jay. You are bein... (Below threshold)
Matt:

Now, Now Jay. You are being a little harsh about how they spend the 1.2 billion they receive in aide. They don't spend it all on arms, propaganda. In the fine tradition of Yassir Arafat, I am sure they siphon off a significant portion of the funds into personal offshore accounts for when they have to "retire."

Just wanted to set... (Below threshold)
Just wanted to set the record straight that it was not about money, it was about the Geo-Religo-Polito bull crap of war.

No, it's about priorities, as Jay originally pointed out. Look, I know you're bravely trying to perfume and polish up a big stinky turd here, but the fact of the matter is, if the Palistinians took the 1.2 billion dollars they're given annually and devoted it to actually improving their lives, building up a solid infrastructure, encouraging economic development, etc. instead of trying to kill Israelis, disasters like this wouldn't happen.

Oh, and I like your spin phrase "Geo-Religo-Polito bull crap of war". Which falsely implies that somehow, the poor Palis are merely helpless victims of events far bigger than themselves, over which they have no control. This is of course, absolute bullshit. The fact of the matter is, if the Palis want to live in peace, all they have to do is stop trying to destroy Israel.

"1.2 billion dollars a year... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

"1.2 billion dollars a year to the Palestinians" --

the U.S. spends more than that EACH WEEK dropping depleted uranium bombs on wedding parties in Iraq.

Depleted Uranium bombs.<br ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Depleted Uranium bombs.
More than 1.2 billion a week.
Wedding parties in Iraq.

At least you spelled everything correctly because the content is pure fantasy. It's also purely off topic.

Not to mention we really are doing a poor job executing this war if it's costing us that much just to deliberately bomb wedding parties each week....with bombs inexplicably made of depleted uranium.


Herald, from what I read, t... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Herald, from what I read, the money was not given to the democratically elected Hamas government, but was a UN financed and run project, so the money is still in the UN account.

OM, yes I do believe that the majority of Pal/Isr people want to live in peace. If you don't think that twisted religious fanaticism is not the cause of the violence, than you are delusional.

The idea that one group of people have divine right to a hunk of dirt over someone else's divine right is absurd.

Barney,I see. So ... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Barney,

I see. So the money never really entered their hands because they never started the project. Good to know.

Personally, I think we should relocate the Palistinians to Iran as they seem so worried about their plight.

The land that they occupy now can be bulldozed, tilled and transformed into a huge farm to grow food for third world countries. That's something the rest of the world can put money into annually with good conscience.

Dear Adrian Browne:<p... (Below threshold)
piledriver:

Dear Adrian Browne:

A) "Depleted Uranium bombs" don't exist

B) Depleted uranium is used in anti-armor projectiles to increase their "punch" .. ie F = MA (you should have signed up for physics in high school instead of interpretive dance)

C) Anti-armor projectiles aren't used on Iraqi weddings.

D) You're just another lefty dumbass spouting DU crap.

Ad' Brownie--another kos ki... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Ad' Brownie--another kos kiddie reject.
Uh barneyGoogle is there a differance between the UN and Hamas? Dumbass (which is getting to a insult to the other dumbasses here).

Herald, I wouldn't have a p... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Herald, I wouldn't have a problem with that, but the Palestinians are Sunni and Arab and the Iranians are Shiite and Persian.

Jhow: "is there a differance between the UN and Hamas?"

Sorry you feel that way since the U.S. was a founding member of the UN you are calling the U.S. of A. a terrorist organization. Why don't leave the country if you feel that way.

Sorry you feel that way ... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Sorry you feel that way since the U.S. was a founding member of the UN you are calling the U.S. of A. a terrorist organization. Why don't leave the country if you feel that way.

Every time I think you've hit rock bottom, Barney, you prove that there is no end to the idiocy you are capable of. The origin of the U.N. and its current sorry state are two separate matters entirely.

Barney,Well, the s... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Barney,

Well, the suggestion is only half serious. I don't think it's realistic in any way to move the Palestinians, especially to Iran because of said religious differences.

I've gone and looked back at some historical references and have found them extremely complicated, and therefore practically useless in coming to a solution based on historical ownership or land rights.

Alot of what I've been reading has come from here.

Presently, it's clear that although Hamas is a democratically elected government, it doesn't entitle them to international recognition or aid.

The priority needs to be the people, and a state rather than the destruction of Israel. Given the history of Hamas, it's dictum and it's actions, things will only get worse for the Palestinians.

"Presently, it's clear that... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"Presently, it's clear that although Hamas is a democratically elected government, it doesn't entitle them to international recognition or aid."

But according to the Bush doctrine, democracies breed freedom, and free people want to join the nations of peace?

Barney,As in any d... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Barney,

As in any democracy, you get what you vote for. If you vote in a terrorist organization as your government, you get terrorism...not freedom.

A government is meant to govern the people. Is Hamas governing it's people?

A good indication that Hamas was not suitable for stewardship of the Palestinians was that it has an "armed wing."

Once again, being voted into power does not automatically entitle you: 1)Aid -and - 2) Recognition.

It should also be noted that just because a party is voted into power, it does not make it an acting democracy.

"As in any democracy, you g... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"As in any democracy, you get what you vote for."

We sure found that out the hard way!

Barney, so you voted in the... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Barney, so you voted in the Palestinian election? Interesting.

"As in any democracy, You g... (Below threshold)
914:

"As in any democracy, You get what You vote for."

Not true! I did not vote for the current crowd of corrupt money bribing cowards in D.C. !

I am with you 914. <p... (Below threshold)
metprof:

I am with you 914.

"The american people spoke in last years election" sez Ms. Pelosi. It must have been so soft many congressmen needed deposits from the treasury to help there hearing.

I think you know what I mea... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

I think you know what I meant, but let's refine it to: You get what the majority votes for.

I think you know what I mea... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

I think you know what I meant, but let's refine it to: You get what the majority votes for.

OK, I thought you meant the 2000 vote when Gore had the majority, and Bush did not.

All kidding aside, you should have suggested relocating the Palestinians to Iraq. At least that would help even-up the Sunni/Shiite population disparity. That would give the Sunnis an even voice in the government.

it's clear that although... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

it's clear that although Hamas is a democratically elected government
That's not so clear. Notice which two parties were the running, Hamas and the PLO, two terrorist organizations.
There's a reason there's no Palestinian Ghandi, they're dragged through the streets and hung up on poles as "collaborators".

It's not democracy when you can be killed if you run for office. Nobody, and I mean no-bo-dy, could have survived if they had run as the "Let's make peace with Israel" party.

They're "democratically elected" in much the same way Hitler was.
Not at all.

Oh, and Barney, you might w... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

Oh, and Barney, you might want to check out and see how the Iraqis feel about the Palestinians who were there already.
Palestinians aren't liked very much in any Arab country, they're useful as a cudgel against Israel, not so useful as citizens of their countries (see also, Kuwait).

Barney,OK... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Barney,

OK, I thought you meant the 2000 vote when Gore had the majority, and Bush did not.

All kidding aside,..

I was referring to the other two posts following yours actually.

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I think the last thing we need in Iraq are more disgruntled people. I'm afraid that on paper it might look like a balancing effect, but in the end would be more of a destablising factor.

I don't know though, that idea has some merit. Something to think about.

Ah, I forgot about that Vee... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Ah, I forgot about that Veeshir; the Palestinians are indeed reviled in Iraq.

Heralder, outside of Berkly... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Heralder, outside of Berkly, U.C. Irvine and other enclaves of progressive thought, is there anywhere the palistinians aren't reviled?

Dam joos.Ever Agai... (Below threshold)
kim:

Dam joos.

Ever Again.
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SCSIwuzzy, you forgot Plain... (Below threshold)
metprof:

SCSIwuzzy, you forgot Plains, Georgia




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