To say she's audacious is to be kind. She's in Syria today to speak with Bashar Assad, the president of Syria, in direct opposition to President Bush, who is the only one who can set our country's foreign policy. When President Bush criticized Pelosi, she thumbed her nose at him in return:
DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi toured Damascus on Tuesday, the highest- ranking American politician to visit Syria since relations began to deteriorate four years ago. President Bush criticized the trip, saying it sends mixed signals to President Bashar Assad.
The United States accuses Syria of interfering in Iraq and Lebanon and sponsoring terrorists--charges Syria denies. The Bush administration has resisted calls to open direct talks with Damascus on resolving the countries' disputes.In Washington, Bush said visits to Syria by u.S. officials were "counterproductive."
"A lot of people have gone to see President Assad ... and yet we haven't seen action. He hasn't responded," he said at a Rose Garden news conference.
He said Assad had not reined in violent elements of militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah as requested by the international community and had acted to destabilize the democratically elected government of Lebanon.
"Sending delegations doesn't work. It's simply been counterproductive," Bush said.
Pelosi has shrugged off the criticism, pointing out that Republican members of Congress have also visited Syria. During a visit to neighboring Lebanon Monday, she said she considers the visits to be an "excellent idea" and was hopeful of rebuilding lost confidence between Washington and Damascus.
Speaker Pelosi's visit to Syria carries a lot more weight than those of random Senators because she's right behind Vice President Cheney for the presidency, and she knows it. She and the Democrats have decided that they don't like President Bush's policy regarding Syria, so the they have decided to conduct their own foreign policy.
Update: Thomas Sowell's article at RealClearPolitics is a must read. The article is filled with so many truths, I am quoting heavily from it:
Congressman Tom Lantos, who is a member of the delegation that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leading to Syria, put the mission clearly when he said: "We have an alternative Democratic foreign policy."
So a Democrat admits it. Pelosi and the Democrats are purposefully defying not only President Bush but the US Constitution as well.
Democrats can have any foreign policy they want -- if and when they are elected to the White House.
Until Nancy Pelosi came along, it was understood by all that we had only one president at a time and -- like him or not -- he alone had the Constitutional authority to speak for this country to foreign nations, especially in wartime.[...]
Nancy Pelosi and the Congressional Democrats are stepping in to carry out their own foreign policy and even their own military policy on troop deployment -- all the while denying that they are intruding on the president's authority.
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So much hate has been hyped against George W. Bush that anything that is done against him is unlikely to be questioned in most of the media.
But whatever passing damage is being done to George W. Bush is a relatively minor concern compared to the lasting damage that is being done to the presidency as an institution that will still be here when George W. Bush is gone.
Once it becomes accepted that it is all right to violate both the laws and the traditions of this nation, and to undermine the ability of the United States to speak to other nations of the world with one voice, we will have taken another fateful step downward into the degeneration of this society.
I don't know which is more infuriating, the fact that the Democrats have set up an alternative government and have decided to ignore and circumvent President Bush altogether or that the MSM aren't batting at eye as they watch the Democrats shred the United States Constitution.
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Kim..before I post links..I... (Below threshold)1. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 4:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kim..before I post links..I will give you the opportunity to admit..a Republican delegation visited Syria just days BEFORE the Speaker..
1. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 4:31 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:31
2. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 4:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"A lot of people have gone to see President Assad..."
Just not anyone from this administration.
2. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 4:33 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:33
3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 4:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think that we have to give Bush the benefit of the doubt. He has a proven track record with:
-Iraq
-North Korea
-Iran
-Lebanon
Never mind!
3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 4:37 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:37
4. Posted by Hugh | April 3, 2007 4:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nogo:
The bangers NEVER let facts get in their way. Kim tried, pathetically, to distinguish between Pelosi and the Repubs.
4. Posted by Hugh | April 3, 2007 4:39 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:39
5. Posted by DoninFla | April 3, 2007 4:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
By: Kim Priestap at 04:10 PM
Posted by: nogo postal at April 3, 2007 04:31 PM
Posted by: BarneyG2000 at April 3, 2007 04:33 PM
Posted by: BarneyG2000 at April 3, 2007 04:37 PM
Posted by: Hugh at April 3, 2007 04:39 PM
???????
Hey, How much do you make being Blog Vultures?
5. Posted by DoninFla | April 3, 2007 4:47 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:47
6. Posted by Old Coot | April 3, 2007 4:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The trolls are correct about this one. Why, Grandma Pelosi is, after all, The Most Powerful Woman In The World. I expect her to soon return home and announce peace in our time. Yep, she can do it...just like that other moonbat did in 1938.
6. Posted by Old Coot | April 3, 2007 4:50 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:50
7. Posted by 914 | April 3, 2007 4:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Her own foreign policy is to support and capitulate to terrorist nations..just like the trolls that post on here!
7. Posted by 914 | April 3, 2007 4:52 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:52
8. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 4:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see the idiots have already chimed in. Read the Constitution. Never mind, you would have to search for someone with enough education to read it to you and since none of you, your family or friends meed these requirements, why bother. You ultra brilliant thinkers on the left praise that fool for going to Syria. At last look, Syria is an Arab country with Islam as the dominant religion. She will be uncovered and unveiled. Therefore she will be viewed as a whore, an idea not totally without merit. Since she represents San Francisco, the Babelon of the west, all gay and all the things muslims find so indearing about us. She will be viewed as a gift as the whore of Babelon from the United States. Do you really thing they will take that bitch seriously? If you do, you are the fools that I think you are.
8. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 4:52 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:52
9. Posted by nikkolai | April 3, 2007 4:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Did "Stretch" Pelosi take several pairs of knee-pads on this trip? She DOES have many Islamo-fascists to service, and you know how demanding they can be....
9. Posted by nikkolai | April 3, 2007 4:58 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 16:58
10. Posted by average wizbang poster | April 3, 2007 5:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see the idiots have already chimed in.
But they were really waiting for you to put the icing on the cake. You never dissappoint Zels.
10. Posted by average wizbang poster | April 3, 2007 5:03 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:03
11. Posted by Peter F. | April 3, 2007 5:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
From the AP wire (via Seattle PI):
In a statement issued by the U.S. Embassy in Damascus, the congressmen said they had talked about "ending support for Hezbollah and Hamas, recognizing Israel's right to exist in peace and security, and ceasing interference in Lebanon."
"We came because we believe there is an opportunity for dialogue," the statement said. "We are following in the lead of Ronald Reagan, who reached out to the Soviets during the Cold War," it added.
Hmm, my history may be a bit fuzzy, but I'm fairly certain that it was Thatcher who said to Reagan regarding Gorby, "I think we can work with this one." Why? Because Gorby was not a hardliner and interested in reform.
Now who actually believes that Assad or Ahmadinejad are reformers in the Middle East, raise your hands.
11. Posted by Peter F. | April 3, 2007 5:13 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:13
12. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 5:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
here is a clue.."Indeed, on April 1, Reps. Frank Wolf (R-VA), Joseph R. Pitts (R-PA) and Robert Aderholt (R-AL) traveled to Damascus and met with Assad, two days before Pelosi's scheduled trip."
check this out for yourselves..then e-mail them and ask them why they hate America...
12. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 5:13 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:13
13. Posted by _Mike_ | April 3, 2007 5:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maybe Ms. Pelosi is going to see if the surrender date that she's proposed is acceptable to Syria. So, perhaps she'll be visiting Iran to surrender there next ?
13. Posted by _Mike_ | April 3, 2007 5:14 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:14
14. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 5:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III,
Syria is a secular state. Like Turkey. Or like Iraq before the invasion.
Didn't you catch the election coverage there? The Baath Party girls were very fetching in their tight sweaters.
14. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 5:15 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:15
15. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Average, you don't have a cake to ice. I hope you spend your days waiting for me to post. It is time well spent. What part of "the Congress is responsible for making laws, not judging them or enforcing them, and that the executive branch is exclusive in determining foreign policy escapes you Average? I will wait for you to formulate an answer.
15. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:16 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:16
16. Posted by _Mike_ | April 3, 2007 5:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
nogo postal:
Are you implying that above went against the wishes of the President or are you demonstrating that you don't understand the distinction between engaging foreign leaders at the behest of the President and engaging foreign leaders in opposition to the President ?
16. Posted by _Mike_ | April 3, 2007 5:18 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:18
17. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BryanD, do you know the origin of the Baath party, who they admired and tried to copy? If you research the answer, tell me you think Pelosi should be cavorting with Nazis.
17. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:19 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:19
18. Posted by nikkolai | April 3, 2007 5:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Question: Are the Islamo-Nazis truly collaborating with San Fran Nan or are they just laughing at her? My bet's on the latter....
18. Posted by nikkolai | April 3, 2007 5:29 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:29
19. Posted by different Brian | April 3, 2007 5:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Zelsdorf,
Don't waste your breath. Liberals are ignorant of history...that's why they're Liberal. Anytime they hear of something, they think it's happening for the first time and they discovered it. It's all brand new to them. So explaining the parallels between the Nazis and the Baathists, including their support during WW2, would be a monumental waste of time.
19. Posted by different Brian | April 3, 2007 5:32 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:32
20. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 5:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"..went against the wishes of the President.." mike
Sorry mike but you are wrong again. Perino was asked about the other Congressmen that went to Syria and this is what she said:
Perino: "Tony Snow was asked at this podium months ago, when Senator Nelson made a similar trip, he said the same, that this was a blanket policy -And so that was the reason that we said that we discouraged her from going. But that policy applies to all."
So you see mike, the Rep Congressmen did not go on the behest of Bush. Bush only wanted to make a big deal out of a Democrat going.
20. Posted by BarneyG2000 | April 3, 2007 5:34 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:34
21. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 5:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III,
Right! The Baathists are not Islamic fundamentalists. They're modernists of the National Socialist stripe.
And women can work, drive, go to school, travel, hold high office, and are allowed to go "uncovered".
Your post implied otherwise.
21. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 5:35 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:35
22. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | April 3, 2007 5:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I was right. Rush to defend the Queen Piglosi.
22. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | April 3, 2007 5:38 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:38
23. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | April 3, 2007 5:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nogo , You don't know the difference between "self serving" and "serving the people".
23. Posted by Rob LA Ca. | April 3, 2007 5:46 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:46
24. Posted by jpm100 | April 3, 2007 5:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
She isn't there discussing trade or anything but foreign relations.
Logan Act.
24. Posted by jpm100 | April 3, 2007 5:54 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:54
25. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I love how you put that BryanD. Modernist of a national socialist stripe. With Swastika's. Outside of Nazi Germany, were else is natioal socialism popular? Are you intending that by modernist, they use VX gas rather than Zyclon B? Since you are good at answering questions BryanD. I will ask you just one more. What faith is it that these modernist Nazis ascribe to?
Himt, Islam. What is the major religious belief practiced in Syria? I know, more than one question. I can't put anything past you lefties.
25. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 5:58 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 17:58
26. Posted by average wizbang poster | April 3, 2007 6:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey, I can pretend to be a Wizbang poser, I mean poster too.
Where do I start?
Clinton! Ted Kennedy!
dims r traitorz, duhhhhh
Piglosi, huh huh huh.
26. Posted by average wizbang poster | April 3, 2007 6:05 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:05
27. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 6:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I may be confused...
please explain how the Republicans visiting a few days earlier was serving the people..and the speaker on a fact finding mission is not?
Serving the people?
The People want the troops home now..Yet Bush and the Republicans could care less...
ya all want to hang on to this?
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/
This is 2007..not 2001..2002 2003..2004..2005..2006..
"The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind..The answer is blowin' in the wind"
I am often amazed how the past 5 years have pushed me more left than I thought possible when I enlisted in 1969..voted for Nixon in 1972..
Voted for Ford..Voted for Reagan Twice..the real Bush once..and "W" the first time..
27. Posted by nogo postal | April 3, 2007 6:08 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:08
28. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | April 3, 2007 6:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kim, Jay Tea, et al, once again I beg you to deal with the trolls. They're polluting the site. After all, who is your audience? The trolls will never consider your arguments; all they do is mock.
There's an important distinction between dissent and disparagement.
28. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | April 3, 2007 6:11 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:11
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 6:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Goddess, please allow the trolls to continue. Without them, on must log on the the dispicable daily kos to find real idiots. The way we have it here, they are resident. Saves time. I admit it would be interesting to see a honest and logical defense of their positions, but then we do not have the cream of the left log on here.
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | April 3, 2007 6:18 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:18
30. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 6:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Outside of Nazi Germany, were else is natioal socialism popular"
Loosely to very loosely speaking:
Spain until 1975. Egypt now. Turkey now. China since 1949. PRK. Until recently Uraguay. Paraguay. Argentina. The list goes on.
"Are you intending that by modernist, they use VX gas rather than Zyclon B?"
Military caste system focused on science. A more correct term would probably be Futurist, from the Italian glorification of harnessing technology which influenced the Fascist Movement in Italy after WWI. And Hitler.
"I will ask you just one more. What faith is it that these modernist Nazis ascribe to?
Himt, Islam. "
WRONG! While ostensibly muslim, as stated above, Baathists are thoroughly modern and place the state above (or equal) to religion. That is by definition Un-Islamic today. Islam preaches an inexorable deterioration of society and a strict reliance on faith. Baathists are futurists and pragmatic and are by definition worldly.
And sorry, but I'm one of the 18% of Republicans who never bought the Kennebunkport Kowboy line.
30. Posted by bryanD | April 3, 2007 6:29 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:29
31. Posted by WildWillie | April 3, 2007 6:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The reason the dimmers do not get the significance of little Nancy's trip is she is now in a position of leadership. Third removed. More gravitas. She knows it and is trying to usurp some presidential authority. I would hope the dimmers would get the difference but that would be expecting way too much of them. ww
31. Posted by WildWillie | April 3, 2007 6:35 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:35
32. Posted by Luke | April 3, 2007 6:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted by: Rob LA Ca. at April 3, 2007 05:38 PM
I was right. Rush to defend the Queen Piglosi.
You mean Pelosi Galore?
32. Posted by Luke | April 3, 2007 6:45 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:45
33. Posted by Xennady | April 3, 2007 6:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
nogo:If Democrats really believed the people want the troops home now cutting off the money would have been their first option and not a last resort response to a threatened veto.But maybe they aren't interested in serving the people and bringing us what we want-success in Iraq-only ensuring our defeat.So what facts will the speaker find from the murderous dictator of Syria? Just what is she saying to him in private? For all I know she is plotting the assassination of Bush and Cheney with the help of Assad.I'm often amazed that leftist trolls think Conservatives belief any of the b.s. they come up with about how they used-to-be-Republicans-but-finally-saw-the-light.
Sure, Moby, of course you were.
33. Posted by Xennady | April 3, 2007 6:45 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:45
34. Posted by DaveD | April 3, 2007 6:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"WRONG! While ostensibly muslim, as stated above, Baathists are thoroughly modern and place the state above (or equal) to religion. That is by definition Un-Islamic today. Islam preaches an inexorable deterioration of society and a strict reliance on faith. Baathists are futurists and pragmatic and are by definition worldly."
Maybe that's true BryanD. But they surely are different when they're in charge don't you think?
34. Posted by DaveD | April 3, 2007 6:49 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:49
35. Posted by Peter F. | April 3, 2007 6:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Pelosi & Crew, crica 2007 = Neville Chamberlain, circa 1938.
35. Posted by Peter F. | April 3, 2007 6:57 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:57
36. Posted by Brian | April 3, 2007 6:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kim, Jay Tea, et al, once again I beg you to deal with the trolls. They're polluting the site. After all, who is your audience? The trolls will never consider your arguments; all they do is mock. There's an important distinction between dissent and disparagement.
I couldn't agree more. Trolls like jhow, Scrappy, Rob, etc. do nothing but insult, and the discussions of opposing viewpoints would be a lot more pleasant without them. In fact, we've lately even had some on posts from the right telling those trolls to knock it off, so it would be a bi-partisan cleansing.
36. Posted by Brian | April 3, 2007 6:58 PM |
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Posted on April 3, 2007 18:58
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