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Breaking: Ahmadinejad Announced that He Pardoned the 15 British Sailors and Marines

Ahmadinejad announced this at a news conference just minutes ago. He says that the hostages will be sent to the airport after the news conference. Additionally, there doesn't appear to be any requirement by Britain to publicly admit wrongdoing, which is important since the sailors and marines didn't do anything wrong. Right now it appears that Iran has gotten away with kidnapping people from Iraqi waters without any real repercussions.

I'll update as new information comes in.

Update: This is classic. Ahmadinejad said in the news conference that he is willing to establish ties with the US if the Bush Administration changes its behavior. This guy is living in an alternate universe.

Update II: Fox reports that the sailors and marines will be released to the British Embassy in Tehran.

Update III: Positive effects already: the price of oil is dropping upon the announcement that the hostages will be released.

Update IV: The White House announced that it is monitoring the situation, which means that it's going to sit back and wait to see if the sailors and marines are actually released.

Update V: The $65,000 question: what went on in the negotiations between Iran and Britain that led to this announcement?

Update VI: Anti-war commenters at Think Progress are already buying Ahmadinejad's PR campaign:

Isn't it amazing what diplomacy and talking can accomplish?? Too bad the Chimp didn't learn to use his brain instead of his mouth to deal with issues. Oh, wait, silly me. How can someone sans brain use a brain to fix problems? Well, at least the British government still knows how to operate in a civilized manner.


How many days until January 20, 2009?

Comment by Ben Dover -- April 4, 2007 @ 9:29 am

Look who is being the resonable ones, despite not knowing what happened to their captured soldiers. (Secret prison anyone)


Comment by Bluedahlia -- April 4, 2007 @ 9:48 am

As for releasing them, well, it's interesting. I think it shows that Iran is more willing to act humanely than Bush's four-year illegal captivity and torture of people still held at Guantanamo Bay despite no charges set against them, repeat violations of teh Geneva Convention, and no habeus corpus for those held there. This act makes Bush look even worse to the International Community than he already does.


Impeachment is the least we can do.

Comment by unbelievable -- April 4, 2007 @ 9:46 am

Amazing what happens when you actually TALK to the enemy rather than put them in the corner or drop bombs on them, huh?


Comment by Fred -- April 4, 2007 @ 9:46 am

Update VII: Hot Air has the video of the press conference.

Update VIII: Sky News has live video of Ahmadinejad "sending off" the British hostages to the British Embassy. There he is smiling as, it appears, he speaks to each hostage individually. From what Fox reports, this was a staged event with the hostages given statements to make for the cameras: you were very kind to us, thank you for your kindness, yada yada yada.

Update IX: I highly recommend reading Anchoress's post "The Wonderland of Ahmadenijad and his despot friends." She writes, in part:

It certainly seems like we are in danger of completely losing touch with our gut instincts, with our abilities to define what is authentic and what is illusory. And that's true on every level. We're lately unable to cleanly identify authenticity in the realm of politics, in education, medicine, economics, social mores, spirituality, the environment, community...it almost feels like the world is giving up and saying, "screw this, it's all too complicated and treacherous out there. I'm watching Law and Order, and if the press wants me to believe that Nancy Pelosi freed these marines, then dammit, I'll believe it! If Rosie wants me to believe that steel does not melt at temperatures above 2500 degrees (as I was taught many moons ago) then fine, I'll believe it! Anything, I'll believe anything, just stop browbeating me, please! I promise, I'll stop thinking! What time is wrestling on?"

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Comments (62)

Cool. Glad this is over.<b... (Below threshold)

Cool. Glad this is over.

This was a win-win for Iran... (Below threshold)
kim:

This was a win-win for Iran. Interesting, though, that Ahmadinejad was the one to make the announcement. I thought maybe he'd been deposed.

Now, children, remember what you do in the fire drill.
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Now, if Pelosi's really sma... (Below threshold)
kim:

Now, if Pelosi's really smart, she'll fly on to Teheran. The Clintonistas would probably have to shoot her plane down, though.
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Amazing. Crisis over. And n... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Amazing. Crisis over. And no one was nuked, invaded, tortured or renditioned. What's the world coming to? Attention Shrub & Co: there's a lesson here.

I predict a Pelosi trip to ... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

I predict a Pelosi trip to Iran.

Almost a dead cert, jpm100.... (Below threshold)
kim:

Almost a dead cert, jpm100. Why do you think she visited puppet Basham?

Big question: Will she take Carter along to ensure legitimate elections, er I mean meaningful discussions?
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The burkha evokes the Flyin... (Below threshold)
kim:

The burkha evokes the Flying Nun; why doesn't Harpelosi torch on over to Teheran?

Forgive her, for she knows not what she does. Neither did Carter.
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Good news for sure. Of cour... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Good news for sure. Of course the dimmers pose it like Iran is the good guy and we Americans are the bad guys. Such self-loathing. It will be months before we find out what really happened. I suspect Russia and France had something to do with this release. Just a gut feeling. ww

Next for Peelooser is a mou... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Next for Peelooser is a mouth lift into a full time pucker.

Next door jerk of a neighbo... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Next door jerk of a neighbor steals liberal's car that is sitting liberal's driveway and goes on a joy ride. Jerk of a neighbor says he took lib's car because it was actually "sitting out at the curb in front of the jerk's house which he maintains as part of his property". Liberal doesn't know what to do because even though it's really his car he doesn't want to piss off his jerk of a neighbor. Liberal crawls next door and talks to his jerk of a neighbor. After talking they come to terms, no shouting, and liberal is happy to have his car back despite having to promise his neighbor to have a castration done the next day because the lib is not using his testicles anyway. Lib's wife starts sleeping with next door neighbor. Two days later, lib comes home and finds his next door neighbor using the lib's riding lawn mower without his permission; well, that's not exactly true. Lib's wife said it was OK........

Fuuny, how it's OK in a liberal's mind for Iran to pluck British soldiers from non-Iranian waters and Bush STILL somehow is responsible???? You folks are so weird. At least under Sharia law you frothing intellectuals will be marginalized.

Unbelievable that anyone wo... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Unbelievable that anyone would actually think that the return of illegal kidnapped soldiers in International Waters is some act of humanity and the result of good dipolomacy.

These maniacal leaders and terrorists have mastered the art of propaganda and those with BDS just fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

So Iran just violates international laws and then come off looking like the good guys. Groucho you should be ashamed of yourself.

Amazing how the left is buy... (Below threshold)

Amazing how the left is buying into this ... no wait, I forgot, not so amazing. This plays right into their alternate reality view of the world.

To those who can see through the BS, it's SO obvious!

Ahmadinajad, the Mullas of ... (Below threshold)

Ahmadinajad, the Mullas of Iran, whoever planned this are evil geniouses. They had this planned all along, the only question was how many days before the prophet Mohammad's birthday (propellor beanie upon him) should the raid take place so as the broadcasting of the crisis would convince the world of Tony Blair's ineptitude.

Like a bully giving the nerd a wedgie in front of the class, making him cry and forcing him to hand over the lunch money, then turning around throwing the coins back at the nerds face and saying, "get lost loser."

They are showing the world that they are in total control and there is nothing that we are willing to do about it.

And better yet, we see the willingness for the left to go along with it. However dispicable the man is, you have to admit Ahmadinajad is brilliant. I'm going to puke.

Just goes to show once more... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

Just goes to show once more that the Left is willing to do gymnastics in order to credit our enemies, while our own leaders can never receive the slightest benefit of the doubt. This will always be the prism, just as the left oohed and aahed over Stalin's show-trials.

Moonbats...They ar... (Below threshold)
THDean:

Moonbats...

They are standing in the neighbor's yard, I walk into the yard and slap them across their silly face, drag them over to my yard and threaten them with ever more dire consequences for daring to be in my yard in the first place...their family and some of the neighbors yap at me for a bit and beg me not to go any further...

After I've preened and crowed a bit I decide to relent and let them slink back home all the while proclaiming what a great person I am for my generousity. I pay no price for my actions, my status as neighborhood bully goes up and my victim looks the fool...not bad for a day's work.

God save us all if the moonbats ever get complete control of our government...

Update XVII: They are/were ... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Update XVII: They are/were prisoners, not hostages.

Update LXVI: The crisis was resolved with diplomacy, not force, and that's a good thing. Or somebody should have been nuked? invaded? What? I'm thinking this is a good thing.

Update MCXVIIII 1/2: I must have missed the part where I said the Iranians were the good guys.

Hmm...I was hearing that on... (Below threshold)
Kristian:

Hmm...I was hearing that one of the demands was some sort of assurance from Britain that they would not 'enter Iranian' water again.

I wonder if the the British said "We can assure you this will never happen again." When the Iranians ask, "But how can we be sure?" And the British ask, "Do you want the truth or what we will tell the press?" "The Truth!" "The Americans have assured us they will sink any Iranian ships that enter Iraqi waters without authorization, and will arrest and detain and SAR crews that attempt to help." "Hmm...okay, so what are we telling the reporters?"

It is irresponsible for Bus... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

It is irresponsible for Bush to be on vacation while his chance to attack Iran is slipping away. He should return from his vacation to complete the work necessary to achieve his goal to bring Democracy to the Middle East (don't tell W Iran is not in the Middle East, he does not know that).

Groucho, are you denying th... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Groucho, are you denying that Iran's act of capturing the British sailors was an act of war?

You call them prisoners, why? Was Britian already at war with Iran? By all accounts, they were not, so these sailors were kidnapped and held hostage. They were used as negotiating pawns.

The crisis was resolved with Iran not receiving any retribution or punishment for violating international laws. And for some reason you look at this as a good thing.

Update: This is cl... (Below threshold)
Update: This is classic. Ahmadinejad said in the news conference that he is willing to establish ties with the US if the Bush Administration changes its behavior. This guy is living in an alternate universe.

If by alternate universe you mean the one we're in where "the loyal opposition" conduct themselves as if they had the right to create their own foreign policy instead of following the foreign policy set by the President of the nation, then yes, he is.

His attitude is perfectly understandable. He's been carefully taught by our media and by Congress that President Bush is only nominally in charge and can safely be ignored.

BarnyG2000 says:<blo... (Below threshold)
stan25:

BarnyG2000 says:

It is irresponsible for Bush to be on vacation while his chance to attack Iran is slipping away. He should return from his vacation to complete the work necessary to achieve his goal to bring Democracy to the Middle East (don't tell W Iran is not in the Middle East, he does not know that).

Hey Barney, can I have some that stuff you are smoking? Looks to me like the President is right on top of things. He will be issuing a statement in a little bit about prisoner release in Iran. Of course if Bush does attack Iran, you and your buds will be on the podium claiming that would be an illegal war too. Contrary to what you and a few other posters here think, President Bush has been on top of this crisis from day one. It is your buds in the drive by media and the nutroots that have out to lunch on this.

I am wondering what changed the minds of the Iranians? Maybe the Brits grew some and gave them a nudge in the right direction.

Heard some of what he said... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Heard some of what he said at his press conference. LOL what a joke. The spin by him isnt much different than the spin the US MSM. Like the looney left, he tries to play victim and hero at the same time.

This was all a ploy by Iran, a manufactured crisis, to put him in a win win situation. No surprise the idiots will sympathize with him, and try to somehow attack our govt in this.

Its no surprise some morons will claim how nice it is to 'talk'. If talking is such a great solution, how come there wasnt more talking before in Tehran 1979, or when Clinton-Reno stormed Waco, killing innocent Americans? How come there isnt more talking about all of the killings in those big blue cities, like Philly, ovr one a day so far this year? They could even have used English right?

The EU caved on this one, so what exactly will they do once Iran has nukes? Who will cave first?

"Big question: Will she ... (Below threshold)
dalleceneri:

"Big question: Will she take Carter along to ensure legitimate elections, er I mean meaningful discussions?"

NOTE: Wizbang Bimbo Eruptions on Wizbang again.

Groucho and those who think... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Groucho and those who think that Ahmadinejad was actually swayed by talk and didn't just use these sailors as pawns ask yourself this:

Why didn't the Iranians simply talk to the sailors in the first place instead of capturing and then holding them hostage? Why do you excuse this act of agression by Iran now that the sailors have been freed?

Ummm, before everyone goes ... (Below threshold)
LJD:

Ummm, before everyone goes about dancing in the streets with flowers in their hair, etc. you need to remember the Iranians are still supporing the death of American troops in Iraq (I know, I know, you think they DESERVE IT) and are still in grossly violating nuclear mandates.

Unfortunately for us, Ahmadinejad, with American media, Al Qaeda, and Rosie as examples, has become a master of playing us as the bad guy.

Weren't the Brits actually ... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Weren't the Brits actually on a U.N. mission? Once again the U.N. has proven itself worthless. They hang you out to dry and someone else has to retrieve you.
Some on here can't stand the truth of what has happened in the past and are doomed to repeat it in the future. Don't call the neighbors to stomp a snake, Stomp your own. Brits stood up.
Who on here ever actually helps their neighbors? I spent part of the night in a pouring rain (volunteer) cutting trees our of the roadways. A massive storm moved through part of the good old U.S. Maybe 20-25 people in the whole area were concerned enough to get out of a warm bed and help. Jay Tea, have you ever in your life did that? Actually I do and will say to anyone's face what I say on here or anywhere. Wake up, Stand up. If it's true, say it. PC is for the lefties.

What Euphoria! All is good... (Below threshold)
BillyBob:

What Euphoria! All is good now. Life will get back to normal. The hostages, er, I mean prisoners will all get book and movie deals and become rich so they come to the U.S. for their psychiatric treatment of mental scars caused by their illegal actions.

Nothing to see here now, move along.

LTC Ralph Peters addresses ... (Below threshold)
ReadyFirst:

LTC Ralph Peters addresses this issue best in his NY Post article today:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04032007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/wheres_winston__opedcolumnists_ralph_peters.htm

Allowing this situation to progress as it did only emboldens the Iranians as it has in the past. Giving in to the Iranians instead of taking out 15 Revolutionary Guard units as suggested by LTC Peters will only make dealing with them in the future worse not better. As an ex-Army Officer I too was disappointed at how quickly the Marines gave in and became tools of the Iranians. Contrast them with Senator McCain in Vietnam. This was an incredibly sad development.

Man, I'm good! Predicted th... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Man, I'm good! Predicted this outcome the first day, but who couldn't have?
The big questions are: Why the restrictive rules of engagement for a naval police action?
Why no support from the HMS Cornwall nearby?
Why shadow and board known car smuggling craft that ply the same route daily?
And why pretend that the RN didn't know these were disputed waters?
Well the answer to the last is to snag an Iranian prize, but that brings us back to the first question.
The only answer that seems to make sense is that Higher Ups were using their own personell as "livebait".
Seeing the net negative impact at Whitehall, were these Sailors supposed to be dead?
And if you think I'm being "conspiritorial", check out Simpson's book "Lustania". He aquired the ship's secret manifest and work orders for gun refitments topside. On a passenger ship, yes.

Yes, it's peace in our time... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

Yes, it's peace in our time; no need to worry anymore. The trolls can come out from beneath the bridges and help us convert our weapons factories into the production of patchouli oil and bongs. Thanks, Nancy!

I read or watched a new rep... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

I read or watched a new report that stated Blair and the British government had sent a letter to the Iranians right after this happened. I guess they got the answer a day or two ago. We will never know what was in that letter but what ever it was caused the Iranians to drop their demands and scurry for cover by pardoning these innocent people.

Thats "Lusitania" and Yes B... (Below threshold)
914:

Thats "Lusitania" and Yes BryanD I think Your right on!

ReadyFirst, Be verrr... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

ReadyFirst,
Be verrry leary of the NYPost about any GWOT news. They're HEAVILY invested in the neocon perpetual war strategizing. It's a "manhood" thing for those cowards.
AND noticed in your hyperlink "where's winston".
WINSTON Churchill coined the term "livebait" and was head of the Admiralty when the Lusitania sank. In-service outrage forced him to switch over to fucking up Army plans. (classic rich kid, see?) Ever hear of Gallipoli? That's WINSTON! And the neocons appreciate him all the more.

Odd how "diplomacy" wasn't ... (Below threshold)
The Listkeeper:

Odd how "diplomacy" wasn't making much progress until Blair made it clear there was a 48 hour limit on such efforts...

I would guess that Ayatolla... (Below threshold)
Murphy:

I would guess that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei gave a spanking to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

This sure makes the Blair/B... (Below threshold)
civil behavior:

This sure makes the Blair/Bush gang look foolish. All Ahaminejad did was release a few soliers captured a week or so ago.

No listing them as enemy combatants, no locking them up in prison, no hoods over their heads, no leashes, heck, just good food and smokes.

What has happened here is a perfect example of how the hard charging bullying approach of Bush et all is showing all foreigners that America is simply not so great anymore. Not to be trusted.

Everyone here is so afraid of losing their precious lifestlye won at the end of a rifle by securing the worlds reources for our own use and to control other competitors(see PSA's) that they fail to see that the global community have their OWN ideas as to how that will be parceled out.

Besides, anyone see the GPS that the British claimed to have as proof? Pooh, think one could alter such "proof".

We're being sandbagged by our own government. Heck of a fix.

The Criminal Democrat par... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

The Criminal Democrat party of perpetual fraud has outsourced it's patented techniques to any and all takers who shared a common goal with the traitorcrats. Those video taped sessions of the hostages were no different from watching the Democrat Media's sessions of what democrats do best , Manipulation and election fraud. Notice how it's the criminals frauds who are patting themselves on the back. Democrats , Ahmadinejad there is absolutely no difference in there manipulation and evil minds. Debate is over.

No listing them a... (Below threshold)
Bill Ramey:
No listing them as enemy combatants, no locking them up in prison, no hoods over their heads, no leashes, heck, just good food and smokes.

Apples and oranges. Britain is not at war with Iran, and the sailors didn't attack anyone.

"No listing them as enemy c... (Below threshold)
914:

"No listing them as enemy combatants,no locking them up in prison,no hoods over their heads, no leashes, heck, just good food and smokes."

Heck, sign Me up!

It's amazing what happens w... (Below threshold)
horse:

It's amazing what happens when an ally has American military might supporting him to stand up to a bully. Somehow I believe this outcome would have been much less likely without the USA's military exercises within sight off the Iranian coast the last couple of weeks. You sheep can go back to your grazing now...

Unbelievable that anyone... (Below threshold)
Larkin:

Unbelievable that anyone would actually think that the return of illegal kidnapped soldiers in International Waters is some act of humanity and the result of good dipolomacy.

First of all, it wasn't "international waters". It was either Iraqi or Iranian territorial waters. If it was Iraqi waters then it was clearly an act of war but this conclusion is undermined by the nearly instantaneous confession of the British sailors. Aren't the British sailors and marines trained to resist making enemy propaganda statements when captured? If so, their resistance didn't last very long at all.

Blair's timid response to all of this also reinforces the notion that the British vessel was in Iranian, not Iraqi waters.

The other possibility is that the Iranians simply made a mistake. After all, there are no signposts in the middle of the Persian Gulf. Realizing their mistake they may have opted for a quick way out.

Bush comes off looking like a buffoon for his clumsy interference in the whole matter by calling the sailors "hostages"--which they clearly were not because they were given up for nothing. We should let the Brits handle situations like these on their own and only involve ourselves at their request. Bush's actions had to be deeply embarrassing for the British people.

Larkin, your choice of word... (Below threshold)
horse:

Larkin, your choice of words and descriptions are really inaccurate. But of course you know that.

Personally, I'd like to see... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Personally, I'd like to see what comes in the next few days when the sailors don't have a gun barrel in their ribs.
I will not be shocked if they were given a choice of "confess or we kill/torture/rape your comrade" or something like that. It is one thing to stand up and take the consequences, another to watch someone else pay the price.

SCSIwuzzy, for the good of ... (Below threshold)
horse:

SCSIwuzzy, for the good of what was England, I hope you are correct.

It hasn't been policy to re... (Below threshold)
The Listkeeper:

It hasn't been policy to resist being made to make such statements for a while now. It's kind of pointless since all it does is get your ass beaten.

What's that term...oh yeah,... (Below threshold)

What's that term...oh yeah, useful idiots. That's the left all right.

First of all, it wasn't ... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

First of all, it wasn't "international waters". It was either Iraqi or Iranian territorial waters.

Fine, it wasn't international, it was Iraqi waters. My points are still valid no matter the difference.

If it was Iraqi waters then it was clearly an act of war but this conclusion is undermined by the nearly instantaneous confession of the British sailors. Aren't the British sailors and marines trained to resist making enemy propaganda statements when captured? If so, their resistance didn't last very long at all.

What a pompous ass you must be as you sit there from the friendly confines of your home or office and deride individuals who have been taken hostage without the knowledge of what was going on behind the cameras.

Blair's timid response to all of this also reinforces the notion that the British vessel was in Iranian, not Iraqi waters.

Only to your own pre-conceived notions Larkin.

The other possibility is that the Iranians simply made a mistake. After all, there are no signposts in the middle of the Persian Gulf. Realizing their mistake they may have opted for a quick way out.

13 days is quick? I'm sure the hostages and the families of the hostages would say otherwise.

Bush comes off looking like a buffoon

Of course he does. And he would have no matter what the outcome would have been, right Larkin.

for his clumsy interference in the whole matter by calling the sailors "hostages"--which they clearly were not because they were given up for nothing

So what were they? Spies, like Iran said? And we don't know yet what they were given up for.

We should let the Brits handle situations like these on their own and only involve ourselves at their request. Bush's actions had to be deeply embarrassing for the British people.

What exactly are you talking about here?

What's most important is th... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

What's most important is that Iran feel no consequences whatsoever for taking British sailors on a UN mission in Iraqi waters and parading them in front of the camera, and having them write letters supporting Iran's poltical line.

What's also important, but not as much so, is that this gives a certain insane portion of our society ammo to attack Bush. Because, you know, Bush...ah...Bush sent the sailors..no wait. Bush took the sailo...hmm. Bush's rhetoric caused this..ah, wait, what about 1979. Ok, Bush should take note, about what diplomacy can accomplish. We should take part in every Iran orchestrated propaganda circus, after all, what could it hurt? We got the sailors back...this time.

Nah, none of this could be ... (Below threshold)
jpm100:

Nah, none of this could be because of the extra naval forces headed to Iran. Or the rumors of a Good Friday attack.

Nope, military presence had nothing to do with this, NOT!

A couple of times I've said... (Below threshold)

A couple of times I've said it doesn't really matter what the British sailors said because everyone knows they are lying and under duress.

Someone up-thread said that the quick admittance of guilt by the British sailors suggests that they really were in the wrong place, that they really were guilty.

So.

Publicly I will state, I was wrong. I was entirely wrong. Worse than wrong. The sailors should have resisted physically even if they feared they wouldn't get released, even if they feared they'd face abuse, even if they felt the female sailor was in particular danger.

Trusting that people in the West were sophisticated enough to understand that any statements they made were obvious lies was a mistake and my saying the same thing was obviously a mistake.

As propaganda this obviously worked for more than the Iranian public. It worked for a portion of the American public as well.

groucho:Update... (Below threshold)
marc:

groucho:

Update XVII: They are/were prisoners, not hostages.

The term prisoners implies some law was broken by the Brits. Can you name/describe what law the Iranians "thought" was broken?

More to the point, can you explain why by all reports Irans first statements on the issue confirmed the Brits position as being in Iraqi waters but was quickly amended to say otherwise?

Larkin:

We should let the Brits handle situations like these on their own and only involve ourselves at their request. Bush's actions had to be deeply embarrassing for the British people.

So... other than Bush using a term you may feel was inappropriate ("hostages") what other "actions" did the Bush (and his "evil"empire) do to interfere in the situation?

Do you honestly believe the British public is "embarrassed" by Bush's use of the term hostage?

If so, may I suggest a review of the letters to the editors of the major Brit newspapers that have also used the term hostages to judge how many are outraged or embarrassed.

For the record there is a stark difference in the two terms:

Hostage: a person given or held as security for the fulfillment of certain conditions or terms, promises, etc., by another.

Prisoner: a person who is confined in prison or kept in custody, esp. as the result of legal process.

As propaganda this obvio... (Below threshold)
ReadyFirst:

As propaganda this obviously worked for more than the Iranian public. It worked for a portion of the American public as well.

Posted by: Synova at April 4, 2007 05:08 PM

Bingo! You are exactly correct. For the conspiracy nuts on this thread it appears to have worked. Someone here said essentially that the gracious Iranians released the hostages (lets not play games, thats what they were) without asking for a thing in return, bunk! They got exactly what they wanted in the way of a PR victory which is the only strategy they have to bring the USA to it's knees since they can't win militarily. Obviously we have those here willing to help in that victory as long as it makes George Bush look bad.

"Ahmadinejad said in the ne... (Below threshold)
Herman:

"Ahmadinejad said in the news conference that he is willing to establish ties with the US if the Bush Administration changes its behavior. This guy is living in an alternate universe." -- K.P.

On that we can agree. While I wouldn't go so far as to confirm the principle, "once a criminal, always a criminal," Ahmedinejad should definitely know by now that the Bush Administration is wrecklessly irrational, and that it's clear that the Bush Administration will go on disrespecting and abusing those not deemed sufficiently Republican.

Herman:Ahmedin... (Below threshold)
marc:

Herman:

Ahmedinejad should definitely know by now that the Bush Administration is wrecklessly irrational, and that it's clear that the Bush Administration will go on disrespecting and abusing those not deemed sufficiently Republican.

Shouldn't that read, "Ahmadi-jihadist will go on disrespecting and abusing those not deemed sufficiently Islamic."

"wrecklessly [sic] irrational": Seizing British citizens/sailors operating under U.N. mandate in Iraqi waters.

"wrecklessly [sic] irrational": Spend years thumbing it's nose at the U.N., EU and the vast majority of the West over it's peaceful nuclear program.

"wrecklessly irrational [sic]": Deny the Holocaust

Jumping Jesus on a pogo sti... (Below threshold)
pfish:

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick - it's almost demoralizing how willfully ignorant so many of you are.

GEE! Do you suppose the presence of TWO U.S. NAVY CARRIER GROUPS FLYING MISSIONS AROUND IRANIAN AIRSPACE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS HAPPY RESULT? My GOD, the conclusion was SO FORGONE that EVEN THE FRENCH sent the CDG carrier group to participate (& nobody needs an easy military victory so much as France!).

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If you can read it in English, thank a United States soldier.

What's most important is... (Below threshold)
mantis:

What's most important is that Iran feel no consequences whatsoever for taking British sailors on a UN mission in Iraqi waters and parading them in front of the camera, and having them write letters supporting Iran's poltical line.

Well, that's what the Iranians were thinking anyway. They got to play tough, and now they get to look magnanimous for not demanding anything. It's a big win for them and we just have to eat it, because what else can we do? Attack? They let them go. Get the UN to do something? Hehe. Ok, just kidding.

Tough week for Team America.

"Tough week for Team Americ... (Below threshold)
horse:

"Tough week for Team America"

Yeah, you can say that again. Especially with pelosi's submissive photo shoot, MSM attacks against the surge, and all the leftista snatches piling it on with their BDS rants.

Ummm.... does anyone think ... (Below threshold)
Terrapod:

Ummm.... does anyone think that two carrier battle groups within 40 minutes flying time of Tehran, missile cruisers and a couple of submarines that no one mentions much, might have something to do with Tehran's decision? Yes the Mullahs are dithering, but in the end it is fear of what might upset their gig that tips the scales. No amount of talk is worth spit unless it is backed by force. Sadly the UK can no longer project force. Hope they and the rest of the Euroweenies wake up soon and start rebuilding their military.

The head of the un just tha... (Below threshold)
Judith:

The head of the un just thanked the little nut from iran. Our thinking is becoming more and more skewed. Someone made the analogy that this is tantamount to someone setting fire to a house, putting out the fire and getting a medal for firefighting. Monty python must be scripting this circus.

Hey, Kim, I thought this co... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Hey, Kim, I thought this comment from ThinkProgress was UNBELIEVABLY englightening:

"How come noones mentioning the fact that we have 400 people in cuba being tortured with no talks about them ever being released. Iran doens't just LOOK better then us. they ARE better then us"
-=Mike

You can't reason with peopl... (Below threshold)

You can't reason with people who think that putting a criminal in prison and putting an innocent person in prison are equivalent actions, MikeSC.

Well, you can reason with t... (Below threshold)
kim:

Well, you can reason with them, but you can't make them drink.

How about: You can lead a horse to Kool Aid, but you cannot make it think.
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