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Trial by error

One of my favorite "Far Side" cartoons -- which I could not find online, dang it -- featured a guy reading a large book. The caption read something like "Bob breezes through Chapter 8 of his Veterinary Medicine For Large Animals textbook." The title of the page was "Treating Ailments Of Horses." Down the left side of a chart were various illnesses and injuries; on the right side, "Shoot."

The Don Imus incident reminded me of that cartoon. It seems that the left is a smidgen more "nuanced" than Larson's veterinary text. When someone commits an egregious sin (usually saying something unpleasant about some protected group), there are only two possible resolutions: the person can resign and/or be removed from their position, or they can enter rehab.

Try it out. Think of someone that your average liberal dislikes. Then look at the times that person has done something that irritates the liberals. The first response -- even before the dust settles -- is a demand for that person to lose their job.

If I were Karl Rove, I'd keep a file just on the calls for my resignation or firing. Maybe even a little chart on my desk that displays how many times prominent people have called for it. And every time it happens, I'd count it as another affirmation that I'm doing something right.

You know, for the party that traditionally opposes the death penalty, it strikes me as odd that they consider so many things worthy of career capital punishment. Every offense is so great, so egregious, that the only possible satisfactory result is ending that person's public life.

But, of course, that only applies to certain crimes -- and committed by the "right" people.

Dianne Feinstein had to resign from a key Senate committee after it was revealed that she had steered literally billions of federal contracts to companies her husband owned at least a stake in. William Jefferson stashed $90,000 in his freezer, and his refusal to account for it nearly triggered a Constitutional crisis.

Compare those two to Mark Foley who while he was a loathsome, despicable scumbag, never quite broke any laws and did nothing worse than Gerry Studds did -- at least Foley waited until the object of his affections was past the age of 19.

There are middle grounds available. Hell, Studds is a perfect example -- the House voted to censure him, but didn't expel him. There are ways short of firings of disciplining or rebuking people who do wrong.

But in this age of politics as blood sport, of Congress' new zeal for "investigate, charge, convict, then see if there was anything worth investigating in the first place," I don't see that happening any time soon.


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When someone commits an ... (Below threshold)

When someone commits an egregious sin (usually saying something unpleasant about some protected group), there are only two possible resolutions: the person can resign and/or be removed from their position, or they can enter rehab.

If you're a conservative, there will be hell to pay (see Ann Coulter). If you're a liberal, you get awards for wonderful portrayals of gay people (see Gray's Anatomy).

Just saw that in the paper, that some gay group gave the show an award for something about positive gayness or something. Guess that rehab stuff really works!

Oooooooooh Jay, you sure ar... (Below threshold)

Oooooooooh Jay, you sure are provoking the nutroots today!

Spittle-speckled keyboards soon to emerge.

Alluding to the attorney sc... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Alluding to the attorney scandal..It seems eminently worth invesigating, otherwise why would so many DOJ high public officials, with one notable exception, be taking the 5th or resigning volountarily. The Senate has a vested checks and balance interest; they must confirm the new appointees. And what about the attorney's public lives which has now been suspended; their public service was terminated for 'performance reasons'.Jay, I don't know why you don't want a more transparent Justice department. This a republic (no man is above the law...) and there aren't any national security reasons involved here. There never are. I like President Chirac's suggestion to open up all French cabinet meetings to television. Unfortunately this Senate Judiciary Committee is a close as we get to that sort of coverage and you presumably want it now closed door.

Clinton replaced all USAs f... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Clinton replaced all USAs for political reasons. His right.

GW appointed USA's as his right. The USA's that were fired were put in by POLITICAL appointment. No harm, no foul. No law broken. If I was a lefty, I would be embarassed of Senator Schumer for actually using this for campaign donations as he is on the committee.

Also, they now have to be approved, but apparantly the Patriot Act the dimmers hated so much but signed into law again didn't read it. How embarassing.

This is all about Rove. Everyone knows it. Just admit it. It is good for the soul. ww

"And every time it happens,... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"And every time it happens, I'd count it as another affirmation that I'm doing something right."

Something right, like 29%. Agreed.

It is not about Rove... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:


It is not about Rove...it is about our Commander-in-Chief ...or as he has called himself the "War President"...as most of you savvy folks know Bush is trying in vain to find a "War Czar" to be in charge of our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan..
hmmm as Commmander isn't that his job...

it is not as if there are not important issues..but...as the "Surge" is resulting in higher death tolls and injuries this month...
..hey...how is that elected Parliament in Iraq doing...legislation passed?
...in 2008....it will be what it should be...
Our President and Vice-President...time and time again have lied to us...there will be no impeachment....but if any of you believe..
after 2008 Republicans will not be wandering in the wilderness for a very long time...
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/


Mr. Rove's only real crime ... (Below threshold)
RicardoVerde:

Mr. Rove's only real crime is being smarter and more effective than 99.99% of Democrats.

Yawn..................... (Below threshold)
jeff:

Yawn..................

Ricardo...yep us Dems are s... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Ricardo...yep us Dems are still smarting on how he kicked our ass in 2006...

jist wondering...given the all-star list of Republican candidates for Prez..who will Rove get elected?

Jay...and anyone else...maybe ya all think oversight was unnecessary..and supported the Republican lack of it for years,,,

Maybe ...this is about payback politics...but remember..in order to be in a position of payback..jist remember it was a majority of voters who voted for this payback...
...don't get me wrong..as a Navy vet..I respect those whom do not abandon a sinking ship..at least you are not like the rats that are doing so now..and will in the future

It took the United States 1... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

It took the United States 13 years to ratify the constitution and the bill of rights. That was before mass communication. Now everyone, especially lefty dimmers want it all said and done in a few months. Wow. High expectations. ww

Jay's solution of censure ... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Jay's solution of censure would be like water off a duck's back to Bush.. As Nogo says, Bush needs real congressional oversight that he didn't face when the Republicans held both houses..2007 Pulitzer Prize: Charlie Savage, was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for 'National Reporting 'for his article " Bush challenges hundreds of laws-President cites powers of his office" which contains a quote referring to a situation that some here must be very wistful and nostagic for. Bruce Fein, a deputy attorney general in the Reagan administration, said "the American system of government relies upon the leaders of each branch ''to exercise some self-restraint." But Bush has declared himself the sole judge of his own powers, he said, and then ruled for himself every time.
''This is an attempt by the president to have the final word on his own constitutional powers, which eliminates the checks and balances that keep the country a democracy," Fein said. ''There is no way for an independent judiciary to check his assertions of power, and Congress isn't doing it, either. So this is moving us toward an unlimited executive power." That was last year..


ah Willie..ya got anyone ov... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

ah Willie..ya got anyone over there?
It is so easy for you to toss out lefty dimmers..
In paragraph explain our President's plan.
In one paragraph explain how four years has brought us closer?

Think what ya will..if you truly believe that the majority of Americans believe and support our President in Iraq...then it cannot help but be a Republican landslide in 2008...that will put the lefty's in their place...

They serve at the pleasure ... (Below threshold)
ec1009:

They serve at the pleasure of the president. I am refering of course to Clinton's travel office "scandel" where no crime was committed by the administration and the individuals were fired for performance related reasons (gross incompetance was the defence in the embezlement trial.)
This is different. Why the stonewall and 5th taking. Why did the fired attorneys stop pleasuring the Pres? What did the non-fired attorneys have to do to continue to pleasure the Pres? Refusing to engage in politically motivated prosecutions? Engaging in politically motivated prosecutions? Quashing investigations against Republicans? Obstuction of justice is the underlying crime and perjury by Gonzolas will be his downfall. Stay tuned tomorow.

nogo... I am convinced that... (Below threshold)

nogo... I am convinced that you are female... and either preadolescent or congenitally sterile... because I don't recall you ever having a period...

you must be in great shape, nogo... considering all the time you spend on that ellipsis trainer...

all puns aside... have you ever completed a single thought in your life... or do you just ramble on and on... shuffling from notion to notion... never really finishing one before starting another... leaving behind an incoherent, unreadable mess... with any possibility that whatever points you might have will be smothered in the inanity of your rambles...

J.

Cut Jay Tea some sla... (Below threshold)
ec1009:


Cut Jay Tea some slack. It is that time of the month and she is going through a bad period.

And another thing: I am a ... (Below threshold)
ec1009:

And another thing: I am a lousy speller.

"perjury by Gonzolas..."</p... (Below threshold)
Fred Z:

"perjury by Gonzolas..."

Who dat?

Dat is spelled "that" Fred,... (Below threshold)
ec1009:

Dat is spelled "that" Fred, Moron.

a... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

a

ec1009, I give exhibit 1, I... (Below threshold)
kim:

ec1009, I give exhibit 1, I. Lewis Libby. And please be careful where you step; I've the franchise on inanity around here.
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Not so inane; McNulty's loo... (Below threshold)
kim:

Not so inane; McNulty's looking for a job.
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They serve at the pleasu... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

They serve at the pleasure of the president. I am refering of course to Clinton's travel office "scandel" where no crime was committed by the administration and the individuals were fired for performance related reasons (gross incompetance was the defence in the embezlement trial.)

Which is a lovely version of reality for you --- but it's not the actual version of reality.

There was no incompetence whatsoever. Clinton, in fact, sicced the FBI on them to drum up criminal charges against Billy Dale that a jury required only a few hours to acquit him on EVERYTHING.

All so a friend of his could have the business instead of the travel office which had served on a non-partisan basis and done an excellent job according to anybody who ever dealt with them for decades.

So, UNLIKE Bush, Clinton actually HAD CHARGES PRESSED against Billy Dale of the Travel Office. In fact, in what was a pattern, they illegally obtained the FBI files on Billy Dale for this. They then lied about it, with Bernard Nussbaum --- whose name is on the request --- denying he made the request.

Just wanted to keep what really happened out there, since you seem so willing to lie about it.

Also, it's worth noting the sheer level of unmitigated illegality that a Clinton presidency brings.

This is different. Why the stonewall and 5th taking.

They saw how Libby was railroaded in a fishing expedition and found it much easier to simply not do anything that could potentially cause them problems. If I were their lawyer, I'd tell them to do the exact same thing.

Why did the fired attorneys stop pleasuring the Pres? What did the non-fired attorneys have to do to continue to pleasure the Pres? Refusing to engage in politically motivated prosecutions?

If one ignores that no such prosecution occurred, then you might have a point.

So, what fever swamp did this useless troll ec originate from? He seems to have the intellect of some of the formerly banned genetic u-turns.
-=Mike




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