This is ridiculous (via Newsbusters):
By now you've heard about the environmental dust-up between singer Sheryl Crow and GOP operative Karl Rove at the White House Correspondents Dinner. Crow wrote about the incident at Huffington Post. She also added a new posting to her Stop Global Warming College Tour blog that includes "easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution." [...]Read the rest of the Newsbusters post for some of her other brilliant ideas including the dining sleeve (possibly even less hygenic than the toilet paper idea) and a "green" reality show.I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required. When presenting this idea to my younger brother, who's judgement [sic] I trust implicitly, he proposed taking it one step further. I believe his quote was, "how bout just washing the one square out."
What do you think of this proposal?
Here is a report on the Karl Rove encounter with Crow and Laurie David. (Update: NRO has an eye witness account.)
Update: Over the weekend Michelle Malkin posted a link to this NYT piece about some wealthy socialites who are encouraging the purchase of enviro-friendly Shaklee products and are also talking about doing things like turning the water off when they brush their teeth, but they are not getting rid of the second homes and private jets.
(Here is a money-saving household hint -- instead of buying expensive "green" cleaning products, you probably have some of the best around your home already. I have found that baking soda and just a little bit of water makes a great paste to clean stainless steel sinks and fixtures and fiberglass tubs. I discovered this by chance when pouring an old box of baking soda down the sink. I don't know whether or not it is safe for stainless steel appliances. I haven't found anything on the market that can beat it for cleaning my stainless kitchen sink or fiberglass tub, though. You just have to rinse really well with water. Baking soda can be purchased at warehouse club stores for less than ten dollars for a 12 lb. resealable bag, which has lasted me over a year. I guess I was being green without even trying.)
Update II: Sensible Mom has the best post title for this topic. Seinfeld fans will immediately recognize the reference. I had forgotten about the episode until I read her post title.



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I think that before we impl... (Below threshold)1. Posted by jennifer | April 23, 2007 10:35 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think that before we implement these 'brilliant measures' offered by Cheryl, I think that all the plastic surgeons in California need to do their part and start recycling breast implant devices, etc,etc.
Oh, and I sure want to know what restaurants decide to use her sleeve napkins, so I'll know where not to eat.
1. Posted by jennifer | April 23, 2007 10:35 AM |
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2. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 10:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nothing more than Elites telling us "Do as we say" not as we do. One square. She must be talking about #1, because #2 requires a bit more than 3 squares. But then again, she probably used Bounty, the quicker picker upper.
I'm so sick of this global warming crap of Elites to attempt to control our lives while they continue to drive SUVs, live in their homes that pollute beaches, fly in private jets, all while supposedly being "Carbon Neutral" because of some shell game. I buy credits from myself, so I'm carbon neutral. What a crock of sh1t.
I took all those curly light bulbs out and replaced them with incandescent bulbs. The light is better and I don't have to worry about calling the HazMat team to decontaminate my house of mercury if one breaks. I'll gladly pay the few cents a more per year to operate them.
Crow & David are took Kooks.
2. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 10:40 AM |
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3. Posted by Elizabeth at A Biblical Home | April 23, 2007 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm...maybe we need a toilet-paper tax! Actually, I think that the "green" reality show would be fun to watch--especially if environmentalist celebrities competed with average Americans.
3. Posted by Elizabeth at A Biblical Home | April 23, 2007 10:57 AM |
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4. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 10:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bob Jones:
I certainly an not an elite, just an average working joe. I don't have an SUV, nor live in a home that pollutes; I don't have any kind of plane and I don't buy credits. But I am astonished at the callous way many of the folks on this site and others scoff, sneer and mock environmental issues. If you folks don't think we have environmental problems then your heads are stuck further in the sand then I thought.
I rarely read any serious discussion of the environment on this or other blogs like it. Sneering and mocking may be humorous - adolescent humor - at that, but do any of you scoffers have anything to offer in the way of solutions other than Ms Byrd's rather juvenile suggestion? Or do you just think everything will be fine as long as we just let folks do whatever they damn well please?
4. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 10:58 AM |
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5. Posted by Rodney Dill | April 23, 2007 11:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Guess we'll havta start calling her 'Old Yeller'
5. Posted by Rodney Dill | April 23, 2007 11:00 AM |
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6. Posted by Gianni | April 23, 2007 11:01 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Crow is yet another libbie displaying the depth of their thinking.
Could she be even dumber than Hanoi John?
6. Posted by Gianni | April 23, 2007 11:01 AM |
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7. Posted by Unclezeb | April 23, 2007 11:04 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jFO gives a hint at what this is really all about...."Or do you just think everything will be fine as long as we just let folks do whatever they damn well please?"
This is about control and I am amazed at how easily some people are willing to give up freedom. These Enviro Crazies want control of all aspects of our lives, right down to our bathroom habits. Give me a break.
7. Posted by Unclezeb | April 23, 2007 11:04 AM |
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8. Posted by Scrapiron | April 23, 2007 11:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Someone point JFO to some sites that will cater (lie) to his whims. He's too far gone to be reading truthful sites.
Someone also point out what makes Algor-abge safer to be on the street than a mass murderer. I don't see a difference, except the left wing crazies have made him a billionaire which he uses to power his 'homes', any one of which uses 20 times the power an average american's home does. Don't even talk about the private jets.
8. Posted by Scrapiron | April 23, 2007 11:17 AM |
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9. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 11:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Colostomy bags would remove the need for toilet paper all together. Lets all get them.
Because toilet paper somehow causes global warming you know.
9. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 11:20 AM |
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10. Posted by Lorie Byrd | April 23, 2007 11:22 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey jFO,
My suggestion was not juvenile. I was serious. I have found that baking soda does make a better cleaner for my stainless steel sink and fiberglass tub than anything else I have found -- it is also cheap and has no noxious fumes. Don't knock it, or declare it juvenile, until you try it. That is the only suggestion I made in this post, so I can only assume that is the suggestion to which you were referring.
10. Posted by Lorie Byrd | April 23, 2007 11:22 AM |
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11. Posted by scotty | April 23, 2007 11:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jFO: We are not sneering and mocking environmental issues. Instead we are sneering and mocking at those who are preaching about environmental issues but are total hippocrites and don't follow their own suggestions.
It is offensive that you assume that we don't love the environment as much as you do. I want to live in a place that is clean and pure and want to leave the environment better for our children and grandchildren. You seem to want to characterize us instead with some goulish evil intent. As though you see us cutting down all the trees, paving the entire surface of the earth, building factories that spew noxious fumes that get pumped right into our homes and at all times you hear evil cackling laughter MMMWWAAAAHH HHAAAA HHAAAAA!!!
We want a good environment as much as you do. As soon as someone has a real idea (Crows toilet paper idea is not a real idea and everyone knows it. That is why we mock her) it will be followed gladly. We must also look at life as more than just a quest to save the environment. There are other issues that rank just as high in importance and we cant ignore them to the exclusion of the environment. Worldwide poverty, disease, terroism and other issues need just as much attention and I dont think saving toilet paper affects these areas very much.
11. Posted by scotty | April 23, 2007 11:30 AM |
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12. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 11:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey Lorie:
My apology. I attributed to you the juvenile suggestion from the article you quoted and I should not have.
12. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 11:33 AM |
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13. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 11:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
scotty:
Thanks for your response. I agree with much of what you said. My point is, rather than mocking and sneering why don't we engage in an exchange of ideas. I am certainly not a "tree hugger" nor a "greenie" nor an "environmental wacko." I, like you believe there are serious environmental issues which need to be discussed and solved - but I believe that if the environment is destroyed those other issues which are important become meaningless.
13. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 11:40 AM |
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14. Posted by JonSK | April 23, 2007 11:46 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sheryl Crow only uses a single square of toilet tissue? Gross. Of course, that might explain why Carl Rove did not want her touching him.
14. Posted by JonSK | April 23, 2007 11:46 AM |
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15. Posted by Redneck Rampage | April 23, 2007 11:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's the first sign of being a brain-challenged Bushie? The fact that you don't recognize a joke when it hits you in the braincell.
Agh Agh
15. Posted by Redneck Rampage | April 23, 2007 11:48 AM |
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16. Posted by cirby | April 23, 2007 11:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I went by one of the local Earth Day celebrations yesterday. I pulled up on by newly-bought (but 26 years old) motorcycle. It rumbles nicely (but isn't loud), and a couple of the attendees gave me a dirty look when I pulled up.
I just walked on by and said "it gets 40 MPG in the city and over 50 on the highway. What do you drive?"
(It's a 1981 Honda CB900C, by the way...)
16. Posted by cirby | April 23, 2007 11:49 AM |
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17. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 11:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jFO:
Yes, but is using one two or three squares of toilet paper really one of them?
In my opinion it's rather ridiculous. We have people being violently killed en masse the world over and Cheryl Crow is trying to tell me I should use one square of toilet paper to save the earth.
I'm fine discussing environmental issues, when the topic is actually serious.
17. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 11:50 AM |
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18. Posted by Faith+1 | April 23, 2007 12:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Leave it to a liberal to decide that the solution to global warming is to not wipe their ass. I had a friend who was so rich he would wipe with a dollar. I tried it once but it wasn't pleasant. You know how hard it is to wipe your butt with 3 quarters, 2 dimes and a nickel?
18. Posted by Faith+1 | April 23, 2007 12:11 PM |
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19. Posted by Mitchell | April 23, 2007 12:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Liberal women who count squares of toilet paper are a frightening bunch. No telling what resides in those under-arms. Will it still be chic to forgo shaving legs if Sarkozy wins???
Hmmm.
19. Posted by Mitchell | April 23, 2007 12:15 PM |
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20. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 12:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
WOW! I mean, effin' WOW! You people are IDGITS! It was a JOKE!
20. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 12:21 PM |
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21. Posted by jpm100 | April 23, 2007 12:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
When you discard recognized religion in your life, something else takes it place.
21. Posted by jpm100 | April 23, 2007 12:25 PM |
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22. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 12:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Redneck Rampage isn't an idget, I see.
For the rest of you, may I commend you to Shear Genius (BRAVO). It's excellent for what it is, but doesn't require too much grey matter to understand.
22. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 12:25 PM |
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23. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If it makes You crappy!! It cant be that bad yeaahhh!!
23. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:27 PM |
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24. Posted by Murdoc | April 23, 2007 12:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They can have my toilet paper when they pry it from my dead, cold...oh forget it...
24. Posted by Murdoc | April 23, 2007 12:27 PM |
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25. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Seriously, I hope She will be understanding of My paper splurge the next time I have diareah!
Sorry Sheryl! I promise I will plant more trees!
25. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:32 PM |
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26. Posted by Robin Goodfellow | April 23, 2007 12:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wait. Isn't using up paper products and dumping them in landfills where they won't decompose a good thing? Isn't that a form of carbon sequestration? Saving paper products is effectively the same as producing CO2, which, as we all know, is the worst thing a human being can do, ever. We can always grow more trees, but we only have one atmosphere!
26. Posted by Robin Goodfellow | April 23, 2007 12:36 PM |
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27. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess We could all use leaves? They dont need refining and they are plentiful!
However..stay away from the poison ivy and itchweed..!
27. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 12:41 PM |
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28. Posted by Vegas Vic | April 23, 2007 12:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Here I was thinking that I had to start changing my light bulbs, converting my dogs waste to energy to power my refrigerator, trade in my SUV for a bicycle and have my children watch a bloviating hypocrite's movie 30 times to save the planet. Thank you Sheryl Crow for pointing the way out of this toilet we call America!! (Can I trade in some Carbon Credits so my wife wont feel guilty about using her hair dryer!?)
28. Posted by Vegas Vic | April 23, 2007 12:48 PM |
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29. Posted by macofromoc | April 23, 2007 12:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
When they outlaw Limos I'll take the Hollywood Green Cult seriously.
29. Posted by macofromoc | April 23, 2007 12:51 PM |
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30. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 12:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Can you spare a square?
No, I cannot spare a square.
30. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 12:55 PM |
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31. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 12:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Interesting, I must have missed on her blog entry where she said it was a joke.
HAHA! Now I get it Bryan.
31. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 12:55 PM |
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32. Posted by hermie | April 23, 2007 1:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lorie:
The baking soda idea is good, and I'm sure that these elite eco-socialites will pass that tip on to their maids/housekeepers.
32. Posted by hermie | April 23, 2007 1:00 PM |
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33. Posted by WildWillie | April 23, 2007 1:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
She wasn't kidding. It is now her spin so she doesn't look more rediculous then she already has. And her and David's rudeness to Karl Rove is expected. It was supposed to be an unbiased fun evening but the enviro girls decided to confront Karl Rove of enviro issues. Guidelines never seem to apply to lefties. I would like to know who invited them? I'll bet a lefty organization. ww
33. Posted by WildWillie | April 23, 2007 1:07 PM |
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34. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 1:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I must have missed on her blog entry where she said it was a joke.Heralder"
DoEs everybody wanna laugh?? (YYEEAH!) Are y'all ready for some JOKES??? (yeah!??)...CUZ these are some Funny Ones...(hehheh..)..Here they COME! (heh-HMmm???)...3-2-1-OK!!! (cough)
34. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 1:17 PM |
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35. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 1:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD,
Excellent non-response. Thanks for being predictable.
35. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 1:22 PM |
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36. Posted by mantis | April 23, 2007 1:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
From that blog entry it doesn't look like a joke to me. It's unfortunate that environmentalism has long been hijacked by celebrities, as they can quickly make any issue into farce. From Sheryl's blog:
It's a reality show. (I feel pretty certain NO ONE has thought of this yet!). Here is the premise: the contest consists of 10 people who are competing for the top spot as the person who lives the "greenest" life. This will be reflected in the contestant's home, his business, and his own personal living style. The winner of this challenging, prestigious, contest would receive what??.... a recording contract!!!!!
Great. The greenest person is no doubt some vegan hippy living on some alfalfa collective in Eugene, OR. We want to put this person on TV and then give him/her a recording contract? Recording what? The mournful sounds of the Gaia as interpreted on his didgeridoo?
There are a lot of serious people working to develop and refine alternatives to fossil fuels, improve nuclear power facilities, develop sustainable architecture, eliminate water, material, and energy waste, and on and on. If we could just get these fevered egos in Hollywood to shut the hell up maybe you would hear about some of it.
36. Posted by mantis | April 23, 2007 1:27 PM |
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37. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 1:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Re-rinsing! Re-rinsing!
And have you EVER even CONSIDERED using one square of toilet paper, and, if so, could it be done in the world as we know it?
Don't attempt Mark Twain at home!
37. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 1:28 PM |
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38. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 1:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jFO
I rarely read any serious discussion of the environment on this or other blogs like it. Sneering and mocking may be humorous - adolescent humor - at that, but do any of you scoffers have anything to offer in the way of solutions other than Ms Byrd's rather juvenile suggestion?
It's hard to have a serious discussion with people who cannot believe there is another side to this debate. Their minds are closed as they have succumbed to the religion of global warming and they are readily giving up their freedoms so a few can maintain control (while they continue their outlandish lifestyle).
Whatever Americans can and will do will not make a dent in how the planet evolves. I for one do not want some socialist wacko making decisions for me.
I conserve gas, water, & electricity when I can, but I PAY for what I use. No one subsidizes me. It's pathetic that people take this argument at face value when it's yet to be proven that man has any affect on global weather. How's the hurricane forecast this year going?
No one with a brain can take these two boobs seriously.
38. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 1:31 PM |
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39. Posted by Peter F. | April 23, 2007 1:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Daily Quips with Peter F.:
1.) So is Sheryl Crow going to come into my bathroom and/or workstall and determine by the consistency of my shit whether or not I get one square or a couple?
2.) The new regulatory body will be called The Department of Health, Shit and Squares.
3.) No wonder Lance, er, dumped you.
4.) "Sheryl, if you were in a German scheiße video, you'd tell me, right?"
39. Posted by Peter F. | April 23, 2007 1:32 PM |
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40. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 1:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm glad Sheryl is now being laughed at the world over about this toilet paper crap. (pun not intended)...
She and Laurie David planned out this attack on Karl Rove, and then rushed to Huffington Post to blog about it, full of their usual lies. They have the collective maturity of a 12 year old.
Sheryl, you're blowing it. At your next concert, I propose people holding up toilet paper squares.
40. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 1:35 PM |
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41. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 1:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Amen, mantis. That last paragraph nails the problem I have with this.
41. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 1:46 PM |
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42. Posted by Faith+1 | April 23, 2007 1:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD, I agree it is a joke. The problem is Sheryl and her ilk don't think so. This is par for the course in ridiculous ideas and she's back peddling now because everyone is pointing out what a colossal idiot she is for thinking this was either a) practical, b) enforcible or c) meaningful.
But yes, I do find most of the left's ideas and comments one big joke.
42. Posted by Faith+1 | April 23, 2007 1:48 PM |
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43. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BryanD, we agree. All of you lefties are a joke. But Faith is right, the kicker is........
You all don't realize you're a joke!
Bwhahahahahaahahah......thanks for the laugh.
43. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:04 PM |
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44. Posted by Eric | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lorie,
That X-19 stuff they make to kill mold in shower grout? It's just bleach and water. I don't remember the proportions, but it's a lot of water to not very much bleach.
And bleach is cheap.
44. Posted by Eric | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM |
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45. Posted by Mac Lorry | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Even if CO2 has a significant role in global warming, and that's a big if at this point, the idea of selling carbon offsets to individuals is destructive to the environment, the economy, and the nation politically. First there's no scientifically proven and governmentally certified process for such offsets. Simply planting trees may actually cause global warming even if carbon is removed from the atmosphere. The reason is that deciduous trees in northern climes convert far more sunlight to heat in the seven months their dark bark is exposed to the sun than the heat trapped by having their carbon in the atmosphere. In the northern woods of the Midwest and Eastern states this effect can increase the local temperature by 10 degrees on sunny days. Just 10 days of such conditions offsets a year's worth of the heat trapping effect of the carbon the trees contain. Clearing the forest for agriculture in the 19th century had a significant global cooling effect as does the dust raised by agricultural land use. If Al Gore is global warming neutral it's because his gluttony and large homes have cleared the land of heat trapping trees.
Selling carbon offsets to individuals is the snake oil of the 21st century and not unlike the medieval Church selling indulgences for sin. It gives Hollywood environmentalists cover for their wasteful lifestyles so that they can preach about how much toilet paper the little people should use. The best thing us little people can do is press congress to regulate carbon indulgences and outlaw their sale to individuals or front companies for individuals. Real offsets may have an economic purpose in giving wind, solar, hydro, tidal and wave power generation an advantage in the market place, but they should never be available to give cover to energy gluttons like Al Gore and the Hollywood elite.
45. Posted by Mac Lorry | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM |
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46. Posted by fustian | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm gonna start wipin' my ass with them new flourescent bulbs, 'cause I REALLY care about the environment.
46. Posted by fustian | April 23, 2007 2:14 PM |
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47. Posted by Henry | April 23, 2007 2:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
mantis, recording contract? wtf... so whoever has the greenest house gets to participate in one of the biggest waste of energy around?
how is that "solving the problem".
sheesh
47. Posted by Henry | April 23, 2007 2:18 PM |
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48. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
No wonder Lance Armstrong hit the road. And no wonder Karl Rove didn't want her touching him the other night. I imagine those hands are uh, quite dirty. lol.
P.S. An employee at the airport where Laurie David arrived to tell Texas A & M students to change their individual behavior for global warming, said she arrived in a luxurious private jet that could be seen 10 miles away in the sky from all the smoke it left in it's wake.
One square of toilet paper for you, private jet for me. Life in liberalville.
No thanks.
48. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:20 PM |
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49. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
fustian,
LOL. Good God man, be careful.
49. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 2:23 PM |
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50. Posted by Henry | April 23, 2007 2:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mac Lorry, the problem is that if CO2 is in any way related, it is because a rise in temperature is what causes an increase of CO2, not the other way around.
http://www.cei.org/pages/ait_response-book.cfm
"• AIT implies that, throughout the past 650,000 years, changes in CO 2 levels preceded and largely caused changes in global temperature, whereas the causality mostly runs the other way: CO 2 changes followed global temperature changes by hundreds to thousands of years."
50. Posted by Henry | April 23, 2007 2:29 PM |
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51. Posted by Jason | April 23, 2007 2:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I will bet you $100 that she doesn't. Like all liberal elites, it's "do as I say, not as I do." (See: Al Gore.)
51. Posted by Jason | April 23, 2007 2:32 PM |
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52. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 2:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
UMM? would Ms Crowe approve of the quicker thicker picker upper?
Like Peter F said! are there going to be bathroom green police to ration out toiletry products now? or do We go by the honor system? one sht a week limit!!
oh oh! gotta take a dump! Sheryl cover My ass!
52. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 2:35 PM |
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53. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 2:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Bwhahahahahaahahah......_jo"
[audible shudder]_me
Oh, and jo, Bush is a liberal "Republican". "Compassionate conservative", North American Union with Mexico and Canada, no borders, Mexican trucks in town near you, etc.
His right-wing cred is of the neocon kind: alignment with the Likud Party apparatchiki. But of course, Likudniks are right-wing SOCIALISTS (Israel is a welfare state subsidized by the USA. One ginormous housing project which Likud promotes). Very "left" on the traditional American political continuum.
53. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 2:37 PM |
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54. Posted by Lorie Byrd | April 23, 2007 2:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I went back and re-read the blog entry and still can't find any indication that this was intended to be a joke, although the idea is quite ridiculous. If it was a joke, then all those criticizing those on the right for making fun of some of the measures those on left are suggesting need to be equally critical of Crow for making fun of such a serious subject.
As for the suggestion from the post that jF0 described as juvenile (initially thinking it was my suggestion) was actually the suggestion of Sheryl Crow's brother and came from the blog entry she wrote.
54. Posted by Lorie Byrd | April 23, 2007 2:42 PM |
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55. Posted by Mac Lorry | April 23, 2007 2:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Henry,
You can't use real science and facts with the likes of Al Gore or the Hollywood environmentalists, but maybe we can take away their carbon indulgences and make them live the life they preach for the rest of us.
Even though science backs you up on the warming causes increased CO2 claim, until environmentalists acknowledge that fact the carbon offset idea should be thrown back in their faces. The next time environmentalists want to destroy a power generating dam the calculations must include all the carbon the dam has removed and would continue to remove for the given power generation. If environmentalists claim global warming will cause extinction of species than the benefits of dams can't be overlooked based on their existence causing the extinction of some other species.
55. Posted by Mac Lorry | April 23, 2007 2:46 PM |
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56. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD, thanks for that reponse that makes no sense and is not on topic.
Again, bwahahahahahahahahahahah...
I can't help it, you lefties are hilarious.
56. Posted by Jo | April 23, 2007 2:52 PM |
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57. Posted by nogo postal | April 23, 2007 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just wondering..
Michelle... celebrity
Sheryl...celebrity
Michelle..revered by millions
Sheryl..revered by millions
I am not saying neither of these talented women deserve the importance of what they say.
I am not saying that neither do not deserve.
But I will say..that they both garner attention not because of actual experience..but because BOTH are celebrities..
If anyone can point out a significant difference..please let me know..
Jist sayin'
57. Posted by nogo postal | April 23, 2007 3:07 PM |
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Posted on April 23, 2007 15:07
58. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Michelle is a celebrity?
58. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 3:08 PM |
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59. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 3:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lorie,
Crow also recommends MULTIPLE "dining sleeves" be on hand (er, on arm), counsels blowing one's nose into one's dining sleeve accoutred arm (then changing it), and, AGAIN(!) using one(!!) square of TP. AMAZING! It's (poor) satire.
jo,
LOOK!! OVER THERE! Some whippersnappers to call the cops on!!!
59. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 3:11 PM |
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60. Posted by mantis | April 23, 2007 3:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
But I will say..that they both garner attention not because of actual experience..but because BOTH are celebrities..
If anyone can point out a significant difference..please let me know..
Michelle wrote a book about why rounding American citizens into camps is a good thing. She's not a celebrity, she's an expert.
60. Posted by mantis | April 23, 2007 3:12 PM |
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61. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 3:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bob Jones:
I don't understand the generalization that you make, i.e." it's hard to believe you can have a serious discussion with people who cannot believe there is another side to this debate." To whom are you referring? If you lump all the Hollywood types in with "all" liberals you're just plain wrong.
I don't think there's just one side to the debate. I am a liberal and I'm very much in favor of restoring nuclear energy as a part of environmental and energy solutions which we need. That's just one area of the problems and solutions that need to be discussed and solved.
There have been 56 comments posted and the vast majority do nothing but mock others. Interesting.
61. Posted by jFO | April 23, 2007 3:15 PM |
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62. Posted by cubanbob | April 23, 2007 3:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If the Republicans had any stones they would introduce legislation that anyone in the news and entertainment media who earns twice the minimum wage should pay a 99% tax on all revenue above that amount. That way they couldn't be tempted to pollute above and beyond what the working class does.
62. Posted by cubanbob | April 23, 2007 3:22 PM |
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63. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 3:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sorry jFO, but it is the kooks that go to AlGore and Michael Moore movies that give sane liberals a bad name. Those movies manipulate data and don't present all the facts in order to persuade the masses.
I'm all for more nuclear power and I firmly believe it is the wacko environmentalist fault that we have gas prices as we do today. No new refineries, no off shore drilling, ANWR off limits, the list goes on.
You do have to admit that the kooks are the one's getting press and the ones with any ounce of logic or reason get stepped on pretty quick.
63. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 3:23 PM |
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64. Posted by wavemaker | April 23, 2007 3:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have to admit that, as much of a nitwit as Crow is, I still had a hard time believing that she was serious -- and I re-read her post a numberof times looking for the gag line. It ain't there. She's fucking serious. Hard to believe, but bryanD, why don't you do us all a big favor and point out the telltale sign that she was joking. You can't. That loopy bitch is serious.
Perhaps when she is on tour, she could require all patrons to discard their ticket stubs into approved containers. After all, one ticket stub has to be worth at least five TP squares.
"You work for us." Pfffffffffff.
64. Posted by wavemaker | April 23, 2007 3:39 PM |
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65. Posted by hermie | April 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Back in the 80's it was people like David who funded and supported the "No Nukes" movement, which hamstrung our ability to build and run nuclear power plants. This forced us to depend on coal, gas and oil-fueled plants.
Now the Davids and other far-left advocates want us to shut down these plants because of the dubious Global Warming 'science'.
They do what they can to block any drilling for oil or building power plants, yet at the same time they complain about high gas prices and 'rolling blackouts; because the peons' demand for electricity is more than the available supply.
Of course, Hollywood creates more of that nasty old carbon and wastes gas, oil and electricity on their own indulgences; but it's everyone else that has to 'sacrifice'.
65. Posted by hermie | April 23, 2007 3:48 PM |
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66. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 23, 2007 3:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
wavemaker,
Perhaps they can just use the ticket stubs AS toilet paper.
66. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 23, 2007 3:52 PM |
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67. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
AHHH?? UMMM? There is no debate over toilet paper no matter which way You twist it?
67. Posted by 914 | April 23, 2007 3:57 PM |
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68. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 4:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
yeah, which way do you have the roll inserted. Roll from the top or the bottom?
Let's see a show of (clean) hands. [grin]
68. Posted by Bob Jones | April 23, 2007 4:12 PM |
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69. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 4:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD, why don't you do us all a big favor and point out the telltale sign that she was joking._wavemaker
The tell tale "sign" is the sideways entre of "younger brother".
"When presenting this idea to my younger brother, who's judgement [sic] I trust implicitly, he proposed taking it one step further. I believe his quote was, "how bout just washing the one square out"
Jeeves' would say something like that to Wooster.
69. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 4:25 PM |
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70. Posted by Althor | April 23, 2007 4:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If Sheryl "Dingleberry" Crow really wants to save a mini-Amazonian forest worth of paper, all she has to do is tell her fellow left-wing nuts and liberal activists to stop passing all those flyers and pamphlets of Marxist, anarchist, and anti-social propaganda in our colleges and universities, and to stop making all those cardboard signs and banners with which they protest the "Cause Célèbre Du Jour" every day, and well nigh leave toilet paper alone!
Might help as well if in passing she tells her Democrat career bureaucrat friends in Washington to stop generating the needless mountains of papers they generate with their wasteful and redundant bureaucracy. Democrat bureaucrats may not use toilet paper to conserve, but they sure leave quite a paper trail!
Althor
70. Posted by Althor | April 23, 2007 4:30 PM |
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71. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 4:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD,
There's the problem. You see:
That's the joke, not everything that preceded or followed it.
71. Posted by Heralder | April 23, 2007 4:47 PM |
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72. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 5:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"bryanD,
There's the problem. You see:
I believe his quote was, "how bout just washing the one square out"
That's the joke, not everything that preceded or followed it.
Posted by: Heralder"
Ruductio ad absurdum by Sheryl Crowe.
"Younger brother" is HER device.
72. Posted by bryanD | April 23, 2007 5:07 PM |
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73. Posted by Rodney Dill | April 23, 2007 6:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fustian, you have one twisted mind...
and colon too, apparently
73. Posted by Rodney Dill | April 23, 2007 6:00 PM |
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74. Posted by Lee | April 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"If it was a joke, then all those criticizing those on the right for making fun of some of the measures those on left are suggesting need to be equally critical of Crow for making fun of such a serious subject."
I guess the joke is on you, Lorie, for taking it seriously - and taking it to the usual right-wing extreme.
It's perfectly understandable for you to attack first and look later -- following in your idol Michelle (Did I finally Get this One Right?) Malkin's footstep si dicey business - you are bound to step in dog shit repeatedly.
And this attempt to destroy Crow is so childish, and therefore equally predictable - after all - she dared speak to the mighty Rove - she'll have to pay for that! (cue the fake booming voice of authority) - lol!
btw - Rove doesn't work for me or any other Americans. He works for the GOP - and everyone knows it.
74. Posted by Lee | April 23, 2007 7:23 PM |
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75. Posted by cirby | April 23, 2007 7:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess the joke is on you, Lorie, for taking it seriously
...because Sheryl Crow is sooo well-known for her comedic stylings...
Oh, wait, she isn't.
It's really interesting how often, when some leftist moron says something stupid, one of the primary apologies is "it's a joke, you moron!"
NO, it wasn't a joke, and no, when Kerry had his little "moment" last year, it wasn't a joke either.
75. Posted by cirby | April 23, 2007 7:40 PM |
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76. Posted by Tim | April 23, 2007 7:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The best part is ... Sheryl The lefty Crowe spent all those years climbing the ladder in the music biz, finally gets to the White House to meet the President ... and then she has to stand behind Sanjaya
Don't ya just love Karma
76. Posted by Tim | April 23, 2007 7:51 PM |
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77. Posted by Synova | April 24, 2007 12:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Note: supposedly the newest jet engines work differently and produce the huge billowy whiteness but they are probably more efficient than the old ones. (I read about this on a "the government is covering the country with poison gas" conspiracy debunking.)
Mantis: "Great. The greenest person is no doubt some vegan hippy living on some alfalfa collective in Eugene, OR. We want to put this person on TV and then give him/her a recording contract? Recording what? The mournful sounds of the Gaia as interpreted on his didgeridoo?"
Hey, don't knock the didgeridoo. :-) I will say, though, that I have a certain amount of respect for the minions of the alfalfa collective in Eugene, OR. They at least are willing to follow their own advice.
Bryan, I figure the brother was joking... but was she?
Oh, I notice several people already said so. Let's examine this joke, though... is she, or is she *not*, serious about using less "stuff" to save the environment? Was she, perhaps, making a joke about people who *do* suggest silly things like using only a couple squares of toilet paper?
If she is crusading to get people to use less and to make changes in our lives, a joke making fun of people who over-do that betrays an incredible tin ear.
Wash out one square and reuse it? Yeah, that's funny. Making fun of people who preach the need to use less? That seems unlikely.
jFO seems to have been somewhat rehabilitated since his/her first post in this comment thread so this isn't meant to be a counter attack, just a serious point:
"Or do you just think everything will be fine as long as we just let folks do whatever they damn well please?"
Yes.
Because, all the total idiots aside, people are pretty smart and even the ones who aren't can usually be counted on to act in their own self-interest. We need to "let" people do what they please not *only* because it's a fundamental aspect of liberty and freedom, which it is, but because it's generally the best way to get the best result.
Ultimately, trying to *make* people do what they ought to do is self-defeating. We do, in fact, have to "let folks do whatever they damn well please" whenever possible, even when allowing it is difficult.
Nearly everyone in the country understands the need to protect the environment. We all want clean air and water and most of us like our surroundings to be park-like and pleasant. Moreover, nearly everyone in the country cares about saving money on their bills.
In the case of the environment the proper motivation is utterly irrelevant. If someone thinks AGW is an enormous crock of sh*t but does what they can to reduce their power bills and plants an apple tree simply because they are pretty and produce apples... it's a win.
The reason I, and I suspect many others, ridicule the AGW alarmists so viciously is that they seem to be insisting on the proper amount of pious earnestness, insisting on the proper level of alarm and passion for the cause. They want "true believers" far more than they want the folks in the trailer park to get winterizing kits to put plastic on their windows so they can save a few bucks. I mean, that's just plastic, it takes the proper motivation for it to be a contribution to the cause... if you know what I mean.
Oh, and Earth Day and Arbor Day used to be fun. People could go out and pick up litter or plant a tree or two without it having to be a political statement at all. No need to feel all guilty or anything in order to be invited.
Maybe we could start a new fun Earth Day, call it Meanies for Greenies or something. Or I Just Want Shade For My Dog - Plant A Tree Day.
77. Posted by Synova | April 24, 2007 12:25 AM |
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78. Posted by epador | April 24, 2007 12:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Who cares what SC says about TP or GW?
She can rock and she can sing.
No matter whether its a joke or her idea is seriously joke-worthy. And she does have quite an ironic sense of humor, if you bothered to check out her lyrics. Her politics are immaterial, and if we treated celebrities as if their politics were immaterial, they'd learn quickly to shut up and entertain. So giving a whole post/thread to this mundane topic simply is supporting the insanity that a popular entertainer WITHOUT any history of successful public service, scientific/training background, or business experience is an appropriate source of opinion regarding anything non-entertainment related.
78. Posted by epador | April 24, 2007 12:36 AM |
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79. Posted by SShiell | April 24, 2007 1:35 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ode to Sheryl Crow
There she sits all broken hearted
Tried to sh*t but only farted
Upon that throne her mind did glean
She had no paper with which to clean
"Oh What Joy, a tree is saved"
But her joy came much too soon by half
For at that moment her bowels did heave
And rank wet poo from her cheeks did cleave
"Now what to do" she was heard to moan
And once again her bowels did groan
And though she mightily did strain
More poo came forth in spite of her pain
And with that groan the door did open
And her hero Al Gore did chance to enter
"Oh thank heavens" she said, expecting help
Came but a single square made all of kelp
"Carbon Neutral" the Gore declared
while Sheryl looked at that single square
"is our goal and the earth to save"
Sheryl decided that she must be brave
This sacrifice I make for all mankind
My *ss to wipe and clean my behind
"And what else can I do to save us all"
She asked of Gore outside the stall
"You can also save more of this planet,
By saving water so other may have it"
"When you have wiped your butt so fair
Save the flush and eat the square!"
79. Posted by SShiell | April 24, 2007 1:35 AM |
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80. Posted by cirby | April 24, 2007 8:08 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Who cares what SC says about TP or GW?
Ask the people who invited her on this (supposedly) important, expensive, and resource-expending tour, and who arranged interviews on and around Earth Day.
80. Posted by cirby | April 24, 2007 8:08 AM |
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81. Posted by 914 | April 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
All I wanna do is wipe My ass
I got a feelin Im not the only one
All I wanna do is wipe My ass
all these dinglebeeries r oh so fun
All I wanna do is wipe My ass
until the sun cools down over santa monica boulevard
81. Posted by 914 | April 24, 2007 10:18 AM |
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82. Posted by pbares | April 24, 2007 10:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
ABC News has a report of Crow "cleaning" up joke about toilet paper use.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3071833&page=1
>Wrapping up a nationwide global warming tour, singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow posted a quirky "solution" online about a new way to save the environment.
>She wrote: "I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting."
>She told the joke to get people's attention, and it worked. Talk show hosts had a field day with Crow's comments.
>"Have you seen my [backside]?" Rosie O'Donnell joked on "The View."
The "joke" has back-fired because no one is talking about saving the planet. Only about how no one wants to shake hands with you. Rosie didn't care for the "joke" proposal, citing the size of her ass, *throws up a little.* You know that you're in trouble when a self-proclaimed Truther doesn't buy into your BS.
We're not laughing with you, dear. We're laughing at you. By leading off with this "joke" Crow has done a huge disservice to the religion of environmentalism. She has turned the discussion away from "seeking solutions," and become the butt of everyone's joke.
File this one under "Yet Another Botched Joke."
82. Posted by pbares | April 24, 2007 10:51 AM |
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83. Posted by Althor | April 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Today I went to my local Mc Donald's, and when I went to use the bathroom found out there was no toilet paper whatsoever. Indignant I went out and complained about it to the Restaurant Manager. The Restaurant Manager smirked and said: "Sorry, but we here at Mc Donald's are concerned about Global Warming and are following Miss Crow's recommendations, but since we can't police it, we are simply doing without." Then I looked at all the illegal Mexican employees handling those buns with their bare hands, and I simply lost my appetite.
Do you realize that "Dingleberry" Crow (do we have to switch now and instead of telling people to "go eat shit", tell them to "go eat crow" now ??? No wonder Lance Armstrong didn't like that "shit." Ha!), even with all the bio-diesel in the tank of her "Eco-Tour Bus", burned more carbon going across the country and passing out an Amazonian forest worth of flyers, in her
"Don't Leave a Carbon Footprint but a Brown Trail Behind You" Global Warming campaign than if she would have stayed put, and would have simply
"indulged" and used a couple more "squares" of
toilet paper and done the job right???
As a matter of fact, had she used an extra couple of "squares" and wiped her mouth too, it would have done even more wonders for the environment...
LMAO!
Althor :)
83. Posted by Althor | April 24, 2007 11:52 AM |
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84. Posted by 914 | April 24, 2007 12:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha!
84. Posted by 914 | April 24, 2007 12:20 PM |
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85. Posted by Althor | April 25, 2007 4:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
From a yet to be released Yellowbook.com commercial with David Carradine:
Young man seeking enlightenment: "But Master, how will I be able to tell the rabid lefty peacenik global warming enviromentalists from the rest of us?"
Carradine as the Oriental Master: "By their 'dingleberries' thou shalt know them, my son...Yellowbook.coooooooommmm"
Althor :)
85. Posted by Althor | April 25, 2007 4:17 AM |
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