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Impeachment: It's not just for high crimes and misdemeanors anymore

It's now a political tool to help the Democrats get their way. Jack Murtha is all for threatening President Bush with impeachment in an effort to pressure him to cave on the Iraq war:

Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) said Sunday that Democrats in Congress could consider impeachment as a way to pressure President Bush on his handling of the war in Iraq.


"What I'm saying, there's four ways to influence a president. And one of them's impeachment," Murtha, chairman of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Ian at Hot Air notes that Murtha is looking quite a bit like Vito Corleone with his heavy handed "we'll make him an offer he can't refuse" tactic. Ian also has the transcript from Face the Nation:

BOB SCHIEFFER: Are you seriously talking about contemplating an impeachment of this President?


MURTHA: What I'm saying is there are four ways to influence a President.

SCHIEFFER: -- and that's one of them?

MURTHA: [unintelligible] and the fourth one is -

SCHIEFFER: -- that's an option that's on the table?

MURTHA: I'm just saying that's one way to influence the President

This would set an unbelievably dangerous precedent if the Dems were to use impeachment as a political tool to force President Bush to his knees on Iraq. Granted, they could never do it without committing political suicide themselves.


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How about turning down $850... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

How about turning down $850 million dollars in foreign Katrina aid? Did you know that thousands of people are still living in trailers, and the 9th ward is still a wasteland?

Turning your back on needy Americans sounds like a good reason for an impeachment.

God Murtha is one of the du... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

God Murtha is one of the dumbest men on the planet--remember the "redeploy Iraq troops to Japan" scheme? Now he's advising on Constitutional Law.

The unseriousness of the Dem. Party knows no bounds. That's why they have all the trial lawyers. Have a policy dispute with GWB? Sue him!!

"impeachment as a political... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

"impeachment as a political tool" -- now that's rich.

Turning your back on nee... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

Turning your back on needy Americans sounds like a good reason for an impeachment.

Well hell, if it sounds good.. who cares about whether any laws were violated!

How about turning down $... (Below threshold)
cirby:

How about turning down $850 million dollars in foreign Katrina aid?

What, on top of the amount we accepted, starting THREE days after the hurricane? No, wait, you're pretending that the initial "no thanks" to the modest amounts offered was the only answer, and that we never took any aid from anyone.

Did you know that thousands of people are still living in trailers, and the 9th ward is still a wasteland?

Did you know that much of the 9th Ward was a wasteland before Katrina? And did you know that the only was we could get all of those "thousands of people" out of their trailers is to physically kick them out (in which case, you'd be bitching about kicking out needy people)? How many of those thousands were on the public dole before Katrina?

Turning your back on needy Americans sounds like a good reason for an impeachment.

So where's Congress in this? If it was really important to you, then you'd be pressuring the DEMOCRATIC Congress to do something... oh, wait, you already know they're useless, so you're complaining about other people instead.

Katrina!? Is't Bush fault p... (Below threshold)
Chris G:

Katrina!? Is't Bush fault people in New Orleans did not evacuate, and even if they did not have the means to evacuate, that the mayor facilitated people to stay in a city that would be without water and electricity, while the governor did squat to set up some kind of emergency infrastructure? Wow. So Bush is president of the freeworld and mayor and governor to boot? If that's the case, why did "Delicious Chocolate Drink" Nagin get reelected. And why would the governor even contemplate running for reelection? So, Bush could be responsible for her state?

Why is that states like Florida, NC, and SC get hammered every year with hurricanes, but the state and local governments are able to comport themselves with a minimal level of functionality?

As for the $850 million in aid, I believe the countires offering ended up giving the money to private charities on the ground. A desicion I agree with considering the way congress handles other people's money. I hear the Clinton-Bush charity got a lot of their money directly from foreign aid.

Secondly, Democtrats think they are tough if they scream at semi-midget reporters (Clinton vs. Wallace) and talk about impeachement. You won't bomb the person that killed American troops while they slept (Khobar Towers), but you will scream at a 5'8" reporter? What a fa... John Edwards.

If Murtha and the Dems really wanted to show the America public they had a pair, they would impeach a president with a 30% approval rating during the time of an unpopular war. Like they used to say in my old neighborhood, "Don't Talk About It, Be About It". If I was special counsel to the presedent, I would subpeonan every Democrat who I have on record making a statement about Sadaam/Iraq/WMD's, and put on a show trial that not end until november 4 2008.

Got a good Photoshop idea f... (Below threshold)

Got a good Photoshop idea for someone with the requisite skills: How about Dirty Harry, San Fran Nan and Mad Jack marching side by side in a fife and kazoo corps?

I hate..yes hate...the vitr... (Below threshold)
dallas:

I hate..yes hate...the vitriol allowed on Wizbang from the left.

Count me gone forever.

I am now deleting you. I will never visit this site again. Don't think I am alone...there will be many who will get just as fed up with you.

You have Wizbang Blue (pure crap)...the responses you get are filled with stupidity. You should feel shame.

I no longer will think of you as a viable site.

I just hope that Lorie and DJ have enough sense to let you sink and go elsewhere. They deserve better than this tripe.

Your site(s) now stinks to high heaven with lefties.

Go on...admit it...You are leaning left.

Count me OUT!

I also am frustrated with t... (Below threshold)
Sue:

I also am frustrated with the lefties who are only here to disrupt. But I'm not leaving-THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

They aren't only doing this on this blog, they are doing it on many others as well. I guess they get their jollies saying outrageous things, talking points included-to disrupt the comments.

I think they should be banned myself. Those that are not here to discuss, just bomb throw I would ban. That's not a decision for me to make, but I'm not leaving because that's what their goal is.

Chris G said: "Why is that ... (Below threshold)
pa:

Chris G said: "Why is that states like Florida, NC, and SC get hammered every year with hurricanes, but the state and local governments are able to comport themselves with a minimal level of functionality?"

Seems to me that states like Florida, NC, and SC were able to comport themselves with AN ADMIRAL level of functionality. And competence. And leadership. But then, they aren't run by the likes of Nagin and Blanco.

Cirby said:>>Did you... (Below threshold)
Paul Hamilton:

Cirby said:
>>Did you know that much of the 9th Ward was a wasteland before Katrina?

Could you cite me some evidence that it was a "wasteland?"

Guess we need to impeach th... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Guess we need to impeach that liberal idiot that runs Nawlins.

You remember, the one who failed his people, the one who lied and said 10,000 were dying, the one who isnt bright enough to follow his own evac plan, the one who allowed cops to go to vegas in the days after katrina because they were stressed out, the one who allowed hundreds of buses to sit idle as 'his people' were trying to get out of the city, the one who didnt issue an evac order with a cat 5 approaching a city below sea level, because he didnt want to piss off the restaurant, bar, and hotel industry, the one who moved his family to Tx, because he wouldnt allow hsi family to live in a city he led, and yeah, that same city that spent levee money on a marina, a casino, and a plane.

How are the crime and murder stats in nawlins these last 18 months??

Now, who's ready to impeach that liberal mayor of chocolate city?

Nawlins, see what happens with nagincharge??

"Did you know that much of ... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

"Did you know that much of the 9th Ward was a wasteland before Katrina? " cirby

So, Bush is doing them a favor?

Anyone know of a major dem ... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Anyone know of a major dem city that doesnt have a high murder rate, a high welfare rate, a high minority illiteracy rate, a high rate of babies born out of wedlock?

Dems cry about how great the US would be if only they had complete control, well damn, theyve had control of Philly, Newark, Detriot, NOLA, etc for years, and look at how F'd up they all are.....

Impeachment?Bring ... (Below threshold)
drjohn:

Impeachment?

Bring it on, meat.

"Jack Murtha is all for... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"Jack Murtha is all for threatening President Bush with impeachment in an effort to pressure him to cave on the Iraq war:"

This what happen when traitorous criminal frauds aren't executed. Every fricken Rat thinks they can do and say anything they want without impunity. Impeach the whole damn Criminal Commiecrat Party of Frauds. They belong in prison or hell for all I care.

Gianni, Chicago!... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gianni, Chicago!

Gianni, Minneapolis!... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gianni, Minneapolis!

Gianni, Seattle!... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gianni, Seattle!

Gianni, how many more do yo... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gianni, how many more do you want?

How do we impeach Murtha an... (Below threshold)

How do we impeach Murtha and the rest of the defeatist?

Gianni, how can you forge... (Below threshold)
RobLACa.:

Gianni, how can you forget the liberal cesspools here in California , Frisco and my own failed liberal experiment of Los Angeles?

Democrats are the worst people in this Country. They represent all that is corrupt , evil and obscene. They are a cancer and have infected everything in this Country degrading all they get their corrupt money and power grubbing hands on. They need to cut out with a scapul. They are disgusting individuals and evil fiends who deserve the worst punishment possible.

Impeachement as a means of ... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

Impeachement as a means of 'influencing' the President because your party doesn't like something sounds like a damn bad idea to me. However, if Murtha DOES manage to get his little wet-dream started, does he realize just HOW low he's managed to set the bar?

And when a Republican congress does the same thing to 'influence' a Democratic President, will Murtha be first in line to vote, seeing it's apparently an 'acceptable' means of influencing a President?

Man, I think it's about damn time for legislator age limits. They won't let a commercial pilot fly past 65 - but they'll let legislators stay in office well past their senility date, and while a pilot's mistake will cost a planeful of passengers, a legislator has the potential of affecting the whole country. "65 and Out" - it's an idea who's time has come.

Hey, we're making some prog... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Hey, we're making some progress with the democrats. At least one of them is willing to admit they would like to use impeachment as some kinf of political tool.

Nice!

May be time for a militia t... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

May be time for a militia to take Murtha out and hang him. He is a traitor to his country. I imagine they have plenty of big oak trees in Washington DC. Seriously, what a good idea. Nothing would inspire the 62 Million that voted for Bush in the last election to vote for any Republican in the next. Two and out. That is all the Democrats will have for decades.

Impeachment: It's not... (Below threshold)
Brian:

Impeachment: It's not just for high crimes and misdemeanors anymore

Recycling headlines from the 90s, are you?

Has Murtha ever even HEARD ... (Below threshold)
justrand:

Has Murtha ever even HEARD of the U.S. Constitution???

IMPEACHMENT was NOT put in as a means of "influencing" a President.

So much bothers me about this complete MORON (with apologies to morons everywhere), but not the least is the fact that this treasonous SOB is a former Marine. I'm a former Marine...and I don't pander to the Left in order to stay fat and drunk!!! (I'm neither fat NOR drunk at the moment!)

F**K Murtha and ALL his treasonous "friends"

Democrats are the w... (Below threshold)
Jaw:

Democrats are the worst people in this Country. They represent all that is corrupt , evil and obscene. They are a cancer and have infected everything in this Country degrading all they get their corrupt money and power grubbing hands on.

Is this what substitutes for intelligent debate? Who is this moron? Get a clue, you fool, and understand that your hatefest with the democrats is irrational. Besides, you're wrong on every count anyway, from the war to Katrina to -- well, you name it. There is enough evidence against this President and his people on so many different bits of corruption that a discussion about whether or not he's a good man -- and the republican party is something more than a group of lemmings -- is beyond any debate. An opinion to the contrary is not only laughable to the majority of Americans but pathetic.

Jaw...gee, when you throw p... (Below threshold)
justrand:

Jaw...gee, when you throw phrases around like "beyond any debate." and "An opinion to the contrary not only laughable to the majority of Americans but pathetic" Well golly, it makes it hard to disagree with you...you being so smart and all.

But, uh, well...you're whole post was sooooooo stooopid, ya know?

Isn't it medication time on the ward??

"How do we impeach Murtha a... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"How do we impeach Murtha and the rest of the defeatist?"

Start by arresting their libelist treasonous media for their democrat and enemy propaganda. Then just run the truth and the facts nonstop fight out of the mouths of the criminal fraud democrats and they will self destruct having been exposed and rightfully publicly humiliated in front of the entire Country. There will be noone left for the Rats to sell thir lies and deceive into voting for them.

Only then will this Country ever begin to recover from the damage these Un-American Jackals continue to us. Barney is a perfect example of stupid evil shit for brains that talk out their ass and get a kick out of causing chaos. They miserable wretched souls who despise those who are not. No question about it these cries of impeachment serve two purposes for equally despicable people. Those that must Clintonize President Bush for their having elected a no good common criminal for President and the others for purely evil fiending of political power.

Chris G, It's a waste of ti... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Chris G, It's a waste of time trying to present facts to a liberal.

If I remember correctly the only place that didn't do what they were requested (the president can't order a state to do a lot) was La and the city of N.O. One thing they have in common is they have been ran in the ground by criminal democrats for more years than we can remember.

Get out three days before the storm hit was a pretty good indication that the president was telling the people of La not to listen to their criminal dummies and save themselves.

Hundreds of drowned Buses are a pretty good indication that the leaders of N.O. and the state of La. did not give a Sh** about the people. Ever wonder how much of the billions of dollars sent to La is now in the bank in some criminal democrats name. Overseas bank of course.

For the Senile old fart Murtha, the word from President Bush should be 'bring it on. That's a death sentence for the democrat party of traitors and cowards if the president just drops the 'gentleman' posture and goes after them with the truth. First he should inform America of the facts. 95 % of the previous deaths in Iraq and "All" of the death now are the responsiblity of the democrats through their support of terrorism.

Chicago??ROFL ye... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Chicago??

ROFL yeah OK, prove it

Philly, Detriot, Newark, NOLA, LA, etc etc etc

Is Mexifornia still part o... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Is Mexifornia still part of the us?

With all of the illegals, greasy illegals, greasy politicians and greased up flamers, we'd be better off if it broke off and floated out to sea.

Murtha = semper fool, like... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Murtha = semper fool, like most libs.

Jaw...gee, when you... (Below threshold)
Jaw:

Jaw...gee, when you throw phrases around like "beyond any debate." and "An opinion to the contrary not only laughable to the majority of Americans but pathetic" Well golly, it makes it hard to disagree with you...you being so smart and all.

Yes, justrand, I am smart...like most americans, and you're stupid, like the pathetic 29% that still support this war and the lemmings on this website. But the real ender to this discussion is that the majority of Americans are against this President, this disaster of a war, the corruption that's taken over Washington from the lobbyist scandal to this current Attorney one - and who knows what else will be uncovered.

You people are like pinheads on the Titanic too dumb to know the ship isn't already doomed. Be that way, it has no effect on me. I sleep at night knowing my opinion isn't only right, but moral. You obviously seeth in anger that more and more people don't believe your simplistic, ignorant views on the world anymore. Good luck, dim bulb. Tell yourself how right you are about all your idiotic stances - and keep trying to convince yourself that George W. Bush is a genius. Dummies like yourself need that kind of constant reinforcement.

Jaw,whatsa matter,... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Jaw,

whatsa matter, no one else in your pathetic life that pays you any attention??? No one to talk or play with?

You are as 'right' as Gore is a conservationist.

RE: Chicago homicide rate<... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

RE: Chicago homicide rate

From about.com

Chicago's 2006 Homicide Totals
Remember how a few months ago we told you that the City of Chicago was being investigated for 'under-reporting' (no, a dem govt lie??) its crime statistics (in order to look safer/better)? Well, now the Chicago police has released the city's 2006 homicide totals (so far) and -- guess what? -- for the 'first time in four years', the homicide rate has gone up instead of down... Hmmm... Last year we had 449 homicides (supposedly) and this year we've had 452 so far...

So barneyboy, thats about the 1000th time youve been bent over and PUNKED like barney frank in a crisco factory. Any more lies you want to share??


A 3rd of back men are illiterate, 70% of black babies are bastard children, and does anyone see welfare being eliminated in chicago????

"Is this what substitutes f... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

"Is this what substitutes for intelligent debate? Who is this moron? Get a clue, you fool, and understand that your hatefest with the democrats is irrational"

"is beyond any debate. An opinion to the contrary is not only laughable to the majority of Americans but pathetic."

Are telling me what to do? You , a fricken retard , a downs syndrome democrat dummy and willfully ignorant to hide and disguise your shame?

Listen to me you idiot, I never claimed to be interested in any debates. You asked "Who I am"? I'll tell ya. I "was" an ignorant voter , straight voting registered democratic vote in the bag. I got a clue , you are still a stupid fool full of hate. I hear the hate first hand from family members who are active in the Dumbasscraps party here , Arizona and New Mexico and like I tell them , F**K your party of criminal frauds.

According to the most recen... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

According to the most recent FBI crime Stats, the murder rates for:

Chicago 15.6
Houston 16.3
Dallas 16.4
Nashville 17.4

Oh those good ol'boys

BarneyG2000 - "Did you know... (Below threshold)
Murphy:

BarneyG2000 - "Did you know that thousands of people are still living in trailers, and the 9th ward is still a wasteland?"

Now that is absolutely disgusting, what with John "Man of the People" Edwards having all that space in his 29,000 sq ft palace.

Chill out a bit G, oh yo... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Chill out a bit G, oh you said floated out to sea. I got a boat at the ready for such an ocasion.

Gianni - "Last year we had ... (Below threshold)
Murphy:

Gianni - "Last year we had 449 homicides (supposedly) and this year we've had 452 so far......"

WOW!!! Sounds like a whole lot of supposedly a goin on thar in the City of Chicago I done say.

Jaw: "the corruption tha... (Below threshold)
justrand:

Jaw: "the corruption that's taken over Washington from the lobbyist scandal to this current Attorney one - and who knows what else will be uncovered."

Good Lord, boyo...you'll have to find more "damning" accustations than THAT for this adminstration.

I personally do NOT agree with all, or even most of this administration...but one FACT is that it is one of the most SCANDAL FREE in Presidential history.

You really need to get your head out of your ass and off the Leftie blogs from time to time.

Do some ACTUAL research...see for yourself. I don't expect you to become a Republican...just hope you can become a marginally smarter Democrat.

Cities with a murder rate ... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

Cities with a murder rate 01,02, 03
City Party of Mayor Pop 2001 2002 2003 Avg per 100k
1 New Orleans(D) 475,128 213 258 274 52.3
2 Washington, D.C.(D) 563,384 231 264 247 43.9
3 Detroit(D) 927,766 395 402 366 41.8
4 Baltimore(D) 671,028 256 253 271 38.7
5 Atlanta(D) 435,494 143 152 149 34.0
6 St. Louis(D) 340,256 148 111 73 32.5
7 Birmingham(D) 244,972 73 65 85 30.3
8 Newark, NJ(D) 279,269 90 65 81 28.2
9 Oakland, CA (D) 414,161 84 108 114 24.6
10 Memphis (D) 650,100 159 151 126 22.4
11 Chicago (D) 2,898,374 666 648 599 22.0
12 Philadelphia (D) 1,524,226 309 288 347 20.6
13 Kansas City(D) 441,545 103 83 82 20.2
14 Milwaukee(D) 597,000 127 118 109 19.8
15 Cincinnati(D) 324,297 55 64 71 19.5
16 Buffalo (D) 288,187 43 63 18.4
17 Miami(I) 379,044 66 65 74 18.0
18 Dallas (D) 1,241,481 240 196 235 18.0
19 Pittsburgh(D) 335,302 55 47 67 16.8
20 Cleveland(D) 468,446 77 80 73 16.4

So barney frank, looks like in a recent study, 19 of the 20 cities with the highest murder rate per 100K were dem run cities, with only miami not making that shameful lib list, as their mayor is an independent.

Since dems claim to care so much about the troops welfare they want to bring them home, what is their plan for all of the people in these dangerous liberal cities?

The ultimate irony is that ... (Below threshold)
Red Five:

The ultimate irony is that this isn't the first time that impeachment has been threatened or used as a political ploy. Remember Andrew Johnson, President #17? He was impeachment victim #1, and his opponents in Congress used impeachment ONLY to shut him up; that's why he was acquitted by only one vote.

Clinton was impeached to get him out of the office, 'cuz he was a horny dickhead who couldn't keep it in his pants and couldn't tell the truth about it. You'll notice that he didn't fade into the background for the remainder of his term...

become a marginally smarter... (Below threshold)
Gianni:

become a marginally smarter democrat??

its like multiplying by zero!

I know a lot of educated Dems, none very smart, just take a look at the idiots from the left posting here.

The problem with impeachmen... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

The problem with impeachment is that it would be a news item that even the bias liberal MSM could not hide. Doing such will bring out the truth about the lies that have been told over and over again about this President and his adminstration. The Senate would never convict because it cannot. The split is too close and I for one would call my idiotic democratic female sentors and advise them of the possibility of civil war. Republicans and independants would really learn that they cannot not vote and let the democrats run wild. Murtha's days are numbered.

Murtha will be investigated... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Murtha will be investigated for corruption. His days are numbered. He will be removed from office with great shame.

>Murtha will be investigate... (Below threshold)

>Murtha will be investigated for corruption. His days are numbered. He will be removed from office with great shame.

He will be SecDef under President Hillary! Clinton.

Chuck Schumer= AG
Maxine Waters=State
Barney Frank=NSA
Dennis Kucinich-DCI
Henry Waxman=FBI

still workin' on the rest of the list...

That'll never happen, barry... (Below threshold)

That'll never happen, barry.

They'd never risk depopulating Congress to fill up the Cabinet. Too much seniority would be lost, too much chance they could lose seats, and too many Democratic party apparatchiks would need to be placated.

J.

You , a fricken ret... (Below threshold)
Jaw:

You , a fricken retard , a downs syndrome democrat dummy...you idiot...I hear the hate first hand from family members who are active in the Dumbasscraps party here...F**K your party of criminal frauds.

Wow, talk about a hatefest. I called you a moron, but you sure seem to bouy your case with your ignorant rant. That's right, LA, there is no debate here. You can't debate an issue to save your life.

Do some ACTUAL research...see for yourself.

I have...and it's all plain to see -- for anyone who isn't stubbornly living in fantasyland. I could ask the same thing of you and you'll come back with posts from Drudge or the Weekly Standard, maybe the Rush Limbaugh show. Whatever it is, it is all partisan posts and dwarfed by the news from every other side. The reality is I don't have to make a case about anything. It's out there to see when you open your eyes. But you people would rather keep them shut.

Is Murtha the grumpy senile... (Below threshold)
Knightbrigade:

Is Murtha the grumpy senile old grampa with his head up his arse or what?

LOL... lets pretend the loony left could even possibly pull off an impeachment, can anyone imagine President Cheney playing kissy face. He would probably send a nuke to Iran or some other hardline action to an issue as a thank you gift? LMAO

Murtha is an embarassment t... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Murtha is an embarassment to the dimmers and THAT is saying alot. A dottering old fool seems appropriate. OOPs! I just said something bad about a veteran. ww

Red Five you are a stupid l... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Red Five you are a stupid liar. Which is to say you are a democrat.

"You'll notice that he didn't fade into the background for the remainder of his term..."

Of course not , with all those other skirts to chase and pardons to sell and furniture to steel. Do you actually expect a criminal and liar to change?

Justrand,

"Do some ACTUAL research...see for yourself. I don't expect you to become a Republican...just hope you can become a marginally smarter Democrat."

Don't even count on it. Jaw is already a pickle and will never change. Jaw will not do any research nor is he interested to do so. He already thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Doing any research is an admission of stupidity.

Jaw,You sho... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:


Jaw,
You should be used to hearing this by now , you are wrong again. Just like we have a foreign policy of not negotiating with terrorists , I have a policy of calling a liar , a fricken liar. It's that simple. Wasting any time debating criminal supporting lying frauds is just that , a waste of time. I know it is impossible to turn a pickle into a cucumber. You are one very pickled democrat.

Gianni, what is the matter?... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Gianni, what is the matter? You didn't like the 2005 stats I provided from the FBI:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/

So you had to pull some unattributed stats from '03? Also, you asked for one Dem city and I gave you Chicago, Seattle and Minneapolis. All of those cities have lower murder rates than Houston and Dallas.

For shame!

All of those cities have... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

All of those cities have lower murder rates than Houston and Dallas.

You do, of course, realize that Houston's murder rate spiked after it accepted to Katrina 'refugees' from NOLA.

For the record,Chi... (Below threshold)
_Mike_:

For the record,

Chicago '05 : 446 murders
Houston '05 : 334 murders
Dallas '05 : 202 murders

www.city-data.com/city/Dallas-Texas.html
www.city-data.com/city/Chicago-Illinois.html
www.city-data.com/city/Houston-Texas.html

You , a fricken retard ,... (Below threshold)
Brian:

You , a fricken retard , a downs syndrome democrat dummy and willfully ignorant to hide and disguise your shame?

Ah, like a leopard, Rob can't change his spots. Of course, there will be no consequences, so there's no need.




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