Murtha sounds like Osama is his speach writer. He is clearly senile so is only mouthing the words of someone else. Reminds me of KKK Byrd who at times stumbles on his statements so bad it appears he has to ask the writer what a word is. I can't see the strings, but it is evident they are simply puppets.

OK, let's say Murtha is a patriot - but just what could a non-patriotic congressman do that that would be worse?

Note on Okinawa: The Def Dept is upgrading Guam so they can remove their presence from Okinawa - much, much further from the Middle East. This move mostly affects the AF and the Marines - Mr. Murtha (as a congressman and former Marine) would know about this move as he would have had to vote on the funding (as a patriot, he would certainly read the legislation he voted on, wouldnt he?)

A postor boy for term limits.

I'm thinking age limits. They've got them for commercial airline pilots, because at 65 their reflexes and eyesight and judgement supposedly are starting to slip.

All a pilot will wreck is a plane, and kill his passengers. Right now, we're seeing an interesting problem - if a congressman's judgement is impaired through aging, who will tell him that?

Age limits. 65. Both sides, both House and Senate. We can't afford senility in our legislators - god knows they're wierd enough right now!

You don't need to question his patriotism, JayTea, because his own words and actions indict him.

The only things Murtha feels patriotic towards are his party (the Dems) and his ambition (and not necessarily in that order).

Add age limits to appointed judges too. They too get wacky in their old age.

Oh yeah, while we are at it, stop with the government welfare pensions for all politicians and government employees. It is bankrupting our country and we cannot continue to provide a pension with COLA every year.

Give them 401K's with matching funds like most of the people have. Government pensions for fat cat politicians is ludicrous.

John Murtha = "Semper One"

'Nuff said!

1) the Japanese are growing more and more dissatisfied with our presence there, and wouldn't exactly embrace a massive infusion of new forces

How true! How do the Iraqis feel about our 140,000 or so soldiers in their country?

It is the Constitutional process whereby Congress can remove other federal officials from office, without interference from the other branches.

For lying about their sex lives. It's in the Constitution!

Murtha voted for the Authorization of Military Force In Iraq, and now says that it was a "mistake."

Murtha should never admit to a mistake; he should let our soldiers to continue to die for that mistake. It would be dishonest to learn from a mistake. Flip-flopping! The horror!

Age limits. 65. Both sides, both House and Senate. We can't afford senility in our legislators - god knows they're wierd enough right now!

Well, we certainly don't want a senile president, either. This plan would have prevent Reagan from serving.

Publicus: "it is far better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

The charges against Clinton were extremely specific: on August 17, 1998, Clinton had, while under oath in a federal court proceding, knowingly and willingly lied under direct questioning. Perjury is a crime, clearly spelled out in penal codes.

Show me the "blowjob exception" in the law, or where Clinton argued that the matter was not admissible (in direct contrast with the sexual harassment law he himself had signed), or shut the hell up.

J.

For lying about their sex lives. It's in the Constitution!

Posted by: Publicus at April 30, 2007 11:53 AM

Nope. For lying under oath about violation of...

TITLE 29--LABOR

CHAPTER XIV--EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION

PART 1604--GUIDELINES ON DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF SEX--Table of Contents

Sec. 1604.11 Sexual harassment.

(a) Harassment on the basis of sex is a violation of section 703 of title VII.1 Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when (1) submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment, (2) submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individual, or (3) such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment.

But I will not question his patriotism.

But I will.

Show me the "blowjob exception" in the law, or where Clinton argued that the matter was not admissible (in direct contrast with the sexual harassment law he himself had signed), or shut the hell up.

Well, let's take all the Republicans and ask them about their sex lives under oath, and if they lie about anything, impeach them. Why not?

Because it's irrelevant to their official conduct and it's entrapment...and just an embarrassingly stupid thing to do!

SicSemperTyrannus --

Just so you know, a consensual relationship isn't sexual harassment...

Publicus nosedives again. Love it.

The left firmly believes in Rhetoric, but not facts. They are reprobate. ww

No responses to what I actually said? How dull.

Publicus, get 'em under oath in a matter where their sex lives are germane to the legal matter, and no problem.

You'll note that Randall Tobias and Mark Foley both resigned when their indiscretions became public -- and it looks more and more like Foley never actually violated a law. So, you wanna put them back in the offices they held prior?

This ain't shooting fish in a barrel. This is shooting 'em in a bucket.

J.

Publicus -

This plan would have prevent Reagan from serving.

Can't change the past, but the future is still mutable.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

It is up to the House of Representatives to define 'other high Crimes and Misdemeanors'. It doesn't matter how specific the charge is.

But I will not question his patriotism.

But I will.i>

Seconded.

Politics ahead of your country? You bet I question his patriotism.

Murtha has lost it. Time to impeach him!

"Perjury is a crime,.." Jay I hope you will remember writing that when Bush pardons Libby.

By the way, what was Clinton's punishment for his perjury conviction?

Disbarment, Barney G. I guess the Republican majority in the Senate decided it was better to not convict Clinton than have algore become President. Publickus, please. I know you are ignorant about all things governmental like the constitution but Clintons crime was lying under oath. It really makes no difference what he was lying about. The crime is about the lying under oath. If you plot and commit murder, does the reason really make any difference? Or is that just something you are unable to grasp.

MURTHA!

Can we add this to the list-

Murtha went out of his way to insult one of our last and BEST Allies-Australia because Prime Minister Howard Dared to attack Barak Obama-

Notice when OBAMA was asked during the debate who are best allies are-

Obama-forget Israel but he also forgot AUSTRALIA-

Why?

It's personal.

Murtha had to go on CNN to defend poor little Barak on his military expertise and Murtha decided to lend Obama his-what little Maurtha has left of it-

Here it is:

don't think anybody wants to send the troops back into Iraq without the proper training, without the proper equipment. And that is what they will have to vote on, on March 15th or 16th. BLITZER: As you know, Democratic Senator Barack Obama, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, he says he would like all U.S. combat forces out of Iraq by March of next year. He would like to see that withdrawal start in May of this year.

Over the weekend, Australian Prime Minister John Howard really lashed out at this idea, and lashed out personally at Barack Obama.

Listen to what he said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN HOWARD, AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER: I think he is wrong.

If I were running al Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008, and pray as many times as possible for a victory, not only for Obama, but also for the Democrats.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: All right.

Not only is John Howard taking on Barack Obama; he is seemingly taking on you, as well, because your attitude, your policy is not all that different than Barack Obama's.

MURTHA: No, that's exactly right.

But -- but that's easy for somebody to say that hasn't really participated heavily in the deployment. The American people are paying $8.4 billion a month. Our troops are being in harm's way every day.

Now, the Australians are -- are one of our best allies. But for him to say something like this, when this is a policy decision, a policy difference with the president of the United States, is uncalled for. He is trying to interfere in our election. And that is -- that's something that shouldn't happen.

We appreciate the help of the Australians, but they haven't done anything compared to what the United States forces have done.

CNN Transcript

Murtha wants to talk about countries that have contributed N-O-T-H-I-N-G-and he starts off by listing Australia?

Try France-Murtha.

Publicus,

I was wondering if you could point me toward any employer (who main income is not tied to sex) that would allow employees to have sex (oral, cigar, etc.) on company time and on company property without SOME sort of repurcussions.

If you can do that, then I'll buy anything you can say about Bill Clinton.

You know I may have taken Amoeba far too much for granted. Even though they have absolutely no:

Backbone
Beliefs
Bravery
Courage
Determination
Fortitude
Guts
Honor
Morals
Patience
Resilience
Sacrifice
Standards
(And the list goes on)

At least Publicus and BarneyG can type. Does that make them talented Amoebas? Or are they just trained Amoebas?

Yo Pubes - Go Fetch!

Of course we can't question the "patriotism" of Murtha and all those other Democrats that are helping Al-Qaeda reach its goals in Iraq! To them outright aiding and abetting of the terrorists and the insurgents is "patriotic dissent," and their definition of a "winning strategy" is to "cut-and-rub" and surrender in Iraq, retreating in humiliation and defeat, leaving the Iraqis to their fate after we went in there in the first place, and dooming them to a greater blood bath than the "reality TV" carnage being carried out until now by Al-Qaeda and the insurgents primarily for the purpose of propaganda, and to support the Democrat's position of defeat in the eyes of public opinion.

To quote a statement made by the Foreign Minister of Iraq, Hoshiyar Zebari, last Sunday:

"The political battle in Washington over a Democratic plan to pull U.S. troops from Iraq is being exploited by al Qaeda, which has stepped up attacks to hasten a withdrawal."

Zebari added: "Iraq had become 'entangled' in domestic politics in the United States, where there is growing impatience for progress in reconciling the country's 'warring sects.' "

What is really ironic is that the on-going
insidious pseudo-religious ("anti-war,"
"defeatist," "multi-cultural secularism" is a "religion" to the left and the Democrats, while to Christian conservative "patriotism,"
"the call of duty," and the willingness to "fight for freedom in the face of adversity and not surrender," is also almost religious) feud, the vicious divide in this country, and all the bitter partisan bickering and political vendettas,
seems almost "sectarian" itself!

You know, the following analogy to Iraq would be hilariously funny if it were not so ominously pathetic. The use of the term "warring sects" to describe the bitter, petty, partisan squabbles in Washington, is just simply so apt:

The "Sunnis" in Iraq, are warring and want us to lose this war, with the help of Al-Qaeda, to regain the political power they lost when Saddam Hussein, and his Arab socialist "Baath Party," were deposed.

The "Dhimmicrats" in Congress, are warring and want us to lose this war, with the help of Al-Qaeda, to regain the political power they lost when Bill "Hussein" Clinton, and his American socialist "Baaa" (as in the bleating of sheep) Party were deposed.

In Iraq the "Shi'ite" majority see their country going to hell in a handbasket, and can't seem to get their act together.

In America the "Shiit" Republican majority see their country going to hell in a handbasket, and can't seem to get their act together.

Aren't the parallels simply eery? It's almost like that psychological phenomenon where the dog resembles the owner and acquires his traits...and God only knows we "own" the war in Iraq - even though the "Dhimmicrats" may fret and throw their tantrums, and want to take it back to the pet shop without the receipt, because they did not want a "bulldog," but a "fluffy lapdog poodle" with its nails polished, wearing a bow, and dyed, appropriately enough, in "pink!"

As the old saying goes: "You break it, you buy it." One way or another we "broke" Iraq, we "own" it, and we have the moral obligation to fix it at any cost! To simply "cut-and-run" and flee the store like the Democrats wish to do, is not only dishonorable and a betrayal of all those who have died for a better world and a better Iraq in this conflict, but irresponsibly murderous due to the bloodbath that will ensue - much as it did in the "Killing Fields" of Cambodia, when we betrayed the South Vietnamese and fled - but suicidal; the new Jihadist "store owners" will be coming after us to make us pay!

Althor

Dwayne, show me a company that employs someone 24/7 and provides their primary residence?

But is OK for Wolfie to give his adulterous slut mistress a $60K raise?

Well, Barney, Wolfowitz passed that judgment on to the Bank's board of ethics and told them to follow normal procedure. They came back and said they could recommend something, but only he had the authority to actually implement it. It was only when he stupidly followed their counsel that his enemies started the smearing.

Oh, and their relationship started before he went to the World Bank -- and she's a longtime employee. In fact, they both went to great pains to make sure everyone at the Bank knew about the relationship before he took the job.

Nice use of "slut," though. You can always trust a liberal to resort to puritanical slurs and objectifying women when it comes down to it.

J.

How could you question his patriotism when he's made it so obvious it doesn't exist?

Semper I

"But is OK for Wolfie to give his adulterous slut mistress a $60K raise?"
Barney

Good thing the tolerant left is above name-calling, mysongony and ad-hominum attackes, no? I mean, as a woman, she couldn't possibly have earned a raise for having her promising career screwed up by a political appointment.

I keep seeing people say you can't challenge the patriotism of people like Kerry and Murth because 'they served'.

So what?

Most famous traitor in American history is Benedict Arnold. Guess what. He served too. In fact he was a general and his actions were instrumental in keeping the revolution alive.

If we can questions Arnolds patriotism why not the lowly Kerry or Murtha?

Serving does not make one immune from criticism for ones actions. If it did, how many spies that were caught would we have to release since they 'served' in the military.