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The American Muslim's Burden

Fifty years ago, the United States enjoyed prominence in the world as the Champion of World War 2, but at home there were questions to resolve. Not least among them, the status of many Japanese-Americans interred during the war. It's intriguing to see how many people, including historians, gloss over the Internment Camps and the slipshod version of Justice handed out to people who committed no offense and who lost years of freedom and a large portion of their property simply because of their race. In these modern times I wonder how well we have learned the lessons from those days, if at all.

By that I not only mean that the United States government has to plan for future conditions where large-scale profiling may be crucially needed to address a threat, but also how a demographic group might plan to prevent suffering the same fate as those citizens from Japan did. We see the conflict coming, and must all of us prepare for what may be delicately put as The Muslim Question.

This week, a plot was revealed where a group of Muslims planned to attack hundreds of people at Fort Dix. In the past year, we have seen attacks by Muslim terrorists at the University of North Carolina, at an office in Denver, and at a Jewish Community Center in Seattle, not to forget the plan to bomb international airline flights with liquid explosives. The problem is growing, and at some point it is inevitable that the public will simply demand that the focus be brought to where the source obviously breeds: Fascist Islam.

I have said many times, and will say again, that since Islam, with over a billion adherents, is responsible for less than two thousand terrorist attacks in a year, it is foolish to blame the whole faith. In fact, it should become obvious that while Fascist Islam is a cause of Terrorism, Islam as a whole is not. A lot of people never noticed that in the Fort Dix case, there was close cooperation between the FBI and Muslim informants, this was hardly the first time that the Muslim Community in a town has alerted the authorities when a terrorist cell showed up. American Muslims as a group should be recognized as significantly different from the monsters we see on television, or those idiots at CAIR who refuse to admit even the most serious and obvious problems. But increasingly, Americans are seeing Muslims in general as anti-American and as enemies of our ideals. And the blame for that impression lies, in part, with the Muslims themselves.

We've all seen protests by Muslims. Protests against cartoons, against the United States (of course), against the Pope, and all sorts of things. But what we do not see, at least in the United States, is a protest against Al Qaeda, against the hijacking of Islam by psychopaths, or against the rising tide of hate speech by this Imam or that. A few mosques have made some gestures towards showing support for America and Freedom, but in the main Islam has been silent about all it receives from the West, from money to protection to guarantees of respect for Muslim culture. It is long overdue for Muslims to choose to support their country as well as their culture, and to show that they belong to the nation as part of it.


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"...there were questions to... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"...there were questions to resolve. Not least among them, the status of many Japanese-Americans interred during the war..."

It is refreshing to see a Wizbang author distance himself from Malkin's racist ideas/books. You should try talking some sense into Lorie, her chief bulldog.

Don't forget the muslim att... (Below threshold)
BillyBob:

Don't forget the muslim attack in the Salt Lake City, Utah shopping center.

Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost ALL the terrorists these days are MUSLIMS, and almost all the muslims who claim not to be terrorists do and say NOTHING (except the asshats at the terrorist front known as CAIR).

Cooperation by mulims is very rare and almost non-existent, but there are many thankful folks in NJ today for those with the stones to stand up against islamofacism.

DJ - a little history lesso... (Below threshold)
Ray:

DJ - a little history lesson for you....First of all, the unfortunate treatement of "Japanese/Americans" during WW2 must be put into context - something that many younger people today fail to do. While the treatment was not pleasant, compare it to how enemy nationals were treated in Japan, Germany, USSR even England DURING THE SAME ERA.

Secondly, of the approximately 100,000 Japanese/Americans interned, only about one-third were actually US citizens, the other were, correctely labeled as foreign nationals and in a time of war, enemy nationals. Hence, I for one feel their treatment was not horrible.

Thirdly, and usually forgotten today, is that a small number of German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also interned and still others had severe restrictions placed on them e.g. could not move, or were forced to moved if they lived near a defence installation, etc. Even Yankee great Joe Dimaggio's family was affected by this. Look it up.

However, back to today.....repeat when necessary - "Islam is not just a religion but an ideology", they will not assimlate much and they hold deep allegiance to the "trans-national" state of Islam. How do I know? I'm a life-long resident of Dearborn, Michigan and have spent 40 years living and observing them.

The more mosques that are built, the closer you will move to implementing sharia law.

I agree D.J. After ... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

I agree D.J.
After all those who supported thugs like Saddam should be held accountable..(question..How many knew Condi's position before her appointment?..remember..It is not about oil...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/business/08chevron.html?bl&ex=1178942400&en=8db53961b0dcd0be&ei=5087%0A

Nogo, get a brain. If the w... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Nogo, get a brain. If the war was for oil why are we fighting for freedom for the Iraqi's? The oil fields are basically secured and we could do the rest easy, and let the rest of the country go to hell, like the democrats want.

OOPS..I forgot..Kofi allowe... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

OOPS..I forgot..Kofi allowed it...disregard any references to our current Sec of State and the major Oil company that is forced to charge reasonable gas prices because of unforeseen refinery problems..
remember...always place the blame where it belongs..

Scrap...please do not disre... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Scrap...please do not disrespect our brave troops facing death over there each day by using the term"we"...after all...neither you nor I are facing death each time we leave our house...

One of these m'fers was bro... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

One of these m'fers was brought over here from Kosovo as a refugee of war, at our expense.

You really wonder about Muslims. Or, at least I do. Psychosis like that can't be treated, or appeased, or dealt with by diplomacy.

Fascist Islam, AKA Mohammad... (Below threshold)
Murphy:

Fascist Islam, AKA Mohammad's Islam, AKA True Islam.

NOgo, You are a me... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

NOgo,
You are a member of Brian 's club. We dealt with it in another thread already. The US was the only country to prosecute these companies who were involved in the oil-for-weapon bribery (about 1% of the total oil-for-weapon amount). The entire UN appratus, France, Germany, Russia, China were deep in the oil-for-weapon scandal. What has happened to Kofi and his son for presiding over this oil-for-weapon scandal. Do you agree that the UN is a corrupt and useless organization?

Ray, Good point abo... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Ray,
Good point about the Japanese treating people under their "care". Liberals love to attack/criticize America because it is easy. Heard of the Nankin massacre? Ask the Korean who were under the Japanese rule for 50 years. The Japanese was in VN for a brief period (1-2 years), they simply killed 1 million people of famine. They used the rice to burn and ran their trains. Liberals love to bash America. The terrorists can blow up women/children and they will claim Bush 's fault. At the same time, they will cry Abhu Graib and Guatanamo to smear our military.

Very thought provoking post... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Very thought provoking post DJ!

Let us pray that we win this thing before, despite the efforts of the left, it escalates to the scale of, or beyond WWII.

I for one am getting pretty... (Below threshold)

I for one am getting pretty sick of these leftists attempting to hijack every single thread. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic, the ONLY possible purpose for posting off-topic crap is disruption.

They've had plenty of warnings. But polite warnings don't work with these animals. Ban them.


BACK ON TOPIC: The so-called "moderate Muslims" do need to step up to do something besides complain about stereotyping and Israel. They need to take steps against the terrorists and the extremists in their midst. Failure to do so before 9/11 could be attributed to the same lackadaisical attitude which pervaded our own society and government's attitude towards Islamic extremism for the previous thirty years.

AFTER 9/11, though, failure to act affirmatively comes close to collusion. It is in fact a serious crime to fail to report knowledge of felonious conduct - it's called "misprision of a felony."

IF Islam is indeed a "religion of peace," Muslims of good faith need to step up and prove it to the western world.

Watch Goodling talk about M... (Below threshold)
kim:

Watch Goodling talk about McNulty's backstabbing of Gonzales, today.
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Watch Goodling talk abou... (Below threshold)
sean nyc/aa:

Watch Goodling talk about McNulty's backstabbing of Gonzales, today
kim

Backstab to you apparently means tell the truth about the dismissal of Bud Cummins, so RNC oppo researcher Tim Griffin could become a USA indefinitely by using the PATRIOT ACT provision, while lying to Arkansas Senator Pryor that they would never intend to do such a thing, and would work with Pryor's office in "good faith" on finding a nominee.

Yes, how dare he. He is certainly not a "loyal Bushie". McNulty goes on the next firing list.

The Conservative blogs as w... (Below threshold)
james H:

The Conservative blogs as well as everyone else needs to show some balance on this. As has been noted the assistance that everyday American Muslims have given to the FBI has been great. In fact it might have stopped some plots. Also it has been noted that many cells are far more wary of what they are saying in the Moslem Commnunity.

Go to Smoking Gun and look at the affidavit on the New Jersy case. There were people(that I bet were Muslims) that went undercover and taped things. One has been used before in other investigation. Things got hairy to say the least when the terrorsit questioned him if he was working for the FBI.

I know there are problems. But the slam an entire community that is helping us is not productive. In fact it might set an enviroment where the exact opposite happens

Jh
Louisiana

Question for Nogo:... (Below threshold)
Son of a Pig and a Monkey:

Question for Nogo:

If the war was for oil, why didn't Chimpy McHaliburton invade Canada?

DJ:I have said ... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

DJ:

I have said many times, and will say again, that since Islam, with over a billion adherents, is responsible for less than two thousand terrorist attacks in a year, it is foolish to blame the whole faith. In fact, it should become obvious that while Fascist Islam is a cause of Terrorism, Islam as a whole is not.

Those are some wise words right there.

But increasingly, Americans are seeing Muslims in general as anti-American and as enemies of our ideals. And the blame for that impression lies, in part, with the Muslims themselves.

One of the problems, from the start, is in fact "seeing Muslims in general." There are Muslims all over the world, and they all have their own unique habits, traits, customs, beliefs, and ideas.

One of the biggest problems is assuming that if someone is "Muslim" then they must share the same ideology as radical Muslims who adhere to a particularly violent Islam. Not necessarily the case.

It is long overdue for Muslims to choose to support their country as well as their culture, and to show that they belong to the nation as part of it.

Hmmm. Well, there are some 3 million American Muslims, right? In my opinion, every day that American Muslims go to work, pay taxes, and go about their lives is another 3 million examples of the ways that American Muslims are a positive part of this culture. To me, actions matter, and the positive actions of 3 million American Muslims should not be outweighed by the idiotic and criminal actions of a small few.

Now, take that logic and apply it to the 1 billion Muslims in the world--the vast majority of whom just want to live their lives and hang out with their families like we all do.

ryan, again, millions of Mu... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

ryan, again, millions of Muslims can EASILY be rounded up to bitch about the comments of the Pope or editorial cartoons.

You can't find a few thousand to protest terrorists who, according to them, are insulting their faith.

So, they can criticize very benign "insults" to their faith en masse --- but the big ones they can't be bothered with.

Anybody who denies the violence inherent in the history of Islam is denying history.
-=Mike

Would you care to talk abou... (Below threshold)
kim:

Would you care to talk about criminal reasons, not just political ones, involved in replacing a US Attorney for Arkansas, sean? Like the one Clinton did?

By the way, what did Goodling say today? I note that McNulty is looking for a job. Schumer should be able to find him one.
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Anybody who denies the v... (Below threshold)
ryan a:

Anybody who denies the violence inherent in the history of Islam is denying history.

If violence is inherent in Islam, then it's inherent in Christianity as well.

But I tend to avoid making statements like that. Yes, violence is most definitely a part of the histories of many nations/cultures that practiced Islam. The same, of course, goes for Christianity--from the Romans, to the French, the British, the Germans, and so on. Evidence of violence, by pretty much all religious groups, is in no shortage.

I do understand the point that you are making abotu the cartoons, Mike. It seems to me, though, that this whole idea of holding all Muslims accountable for what certain Middle Eastern fanatics are doing, well, that isn't exactly bringing the moderates to the table. It might make more sense to treat them with respect, instead of blaming them all for what Al Qaeda is doing in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Nobody ever required ALL CHRISTIANS to have massive rallies to denounce either the KKK or the IRA...most rational people realized that the vast majority of Christians were not represented by those two extremist organizations.

We all have to realize that there is no such thing as one "Islam," let alone one idea of what it means to be Muslim. And we certainly don't want to alienate the better elements by accusing them of being affiliated with terrorists at the drop of a hat.

"pretty much all religious ... (Below threshold)
kim:

"pretty much all religious group". I maintain that public spirituality in the future will be Confucian in form, private spirituality Buddhist in approach, public holydays will be Hindu in flavor, and the cults of Abraham will be marginalized as too violent.

And then I look around, and Sri Lanka looms on the horizon.
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If violence is inherent ... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

If violence is inherent in Islam, then it's inherent in Christianity as well

Christianity, for all its faults, was not spread by the sword. Islam was from the start.

But I tend to avoid making statements like that. Yes, violence is most definitely a part of the histories of many nations/cultures that practiced Islam. The same, of course, goes for Christianity--from the Romans, to the French, the British, the Germans, and so on. Evidence of violence, by pretty much all religious groups, is in no shortage.

But they seldom quote the Bible to justify their actions. Even the Crusades were defensive wars to protect Christians from Muslim atrocities.

I do understand the point that you are making abotu the cartoons, Mike. It seems to me, though, that this whole idea of holding all Muslims accountable for what certain Middle Eastern fanatics are doing, well, that isn't exactly bringing the moderates to the table. It might make more sense to treat them with respect, instead of blaming them all for what Al Qaeda is doing in Afghanistan or Iraq.

I'd go with that --- if Muslims in the West didn't engage in those protests about the cartoons and the like and didn't carry signs that made them look, well, violent.

If Western "moderate" Muslims will protest cartoons which "insult" their faith but won't protest Muslims whose interpretation, according to them, insults their faith --- the only plausible explanation is that the violence doesn't actually insult their faith.

You can't claim that those who commit violence aren't practicing real Islam when you've shown precious little difficulty protesting against far more benign "slights".

Nobody ever required ALL CHRISTIANS to have massive rallies to denounce either the KKK or the IRA...most rational people realized that the vast majority of Christians were not represented by those two extremist organizations.

Ryan, the KKK, at its apex, didn't kill as many as Muslims do now. And the IRA, for all of its faults, was pretty good about not intentionally aiming at civilians.

Christians now have no problem condemning other Christians. Christians unloaded on Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell after their idiotic comments following 9/11.

We all have to realize that there is no such thing as one "Islam," let alone one idea of what it means to be Muslim. And we certainly don't want to alienate the better elements by accusing them of being affiliated with terrorists at the drop of a hat.

Ryan, at a certain point, if the moderates aren't going to do anything to try and seperate themselves from those they deem to not be real Muslims, then the problems are self-inflicted.
-=Mike

Definatly disagree with thi... (Below threshold)

Definatly disagree with this article. you have no insight into a muslims perspective, or what muslims have spoken out about.

"One in four younger U.S. M... (Below threshold)
Jojo BoZley:

"One in four younger U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances..."

Not good - also not a lot of Christians condoning killing to defend their religion.
How can people continually compare the two - I just don't see it at all. Radical Islam is bent and out of control, everywhere.




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