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The Brokeback Class

Posted by Lorie Byrd
Published: May 14, 2007 - 12:34 PM

This weekend I heard about the substitute teacher who showed an 8th grade class the "R" rated movie, Brokeback Mountain, but had not read the report saying the suit filed by a girl in the class claims the principal was aware that the teacher was showing the movie. Newsbusters has a good post on the story. I had assumed this was a teacher gone wild but, if the allegations are true, this was even worse than that since school administration knew what was going on and allowed it to happen. Parents cannot be too careful when monitoring what is happening in their kids' schools.

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Worse is the showing of 'An... (Below threshold)

1. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 12:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

Worse is the showing of 'An Inconvenient Truth'.

One is presented as fiction, one as truth;
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1. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 12:48 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 12:48

Am I the only one who thoug... (Below threshold)

2. Posted by Granddaddy Long Legs | May 14, 2007 1:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Granddaddy Long Legs:

Am I the only one who thought Brokeback Mountain was a less-than mediocre movie? The film had tons of free press that should've generated huge profits based solely on the curiosity of moviegoers. And then when the film started getting trashed by reviewers, the gay lobby started pounding their fists on the table and screaming about discrimination and prejudice (as though we don't live in a world where Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Will & Grace were hits) when the movie was just plain bad.

So I guess the real question is, why in the world were they watching this awful movie in school in the first place? Even if it was solely for the gay factor, there are better far movies involving gay characters that that waste of time. Philadelphia immediately comes to mind.

2. Posted by Granddaddy Long Legs | May 14, 2007 1:04 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:04

I don't know what the sub w... (Below threshold)

3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 1:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BarneyG2000:

I don't know what the sub was thinking and I doubt the Principle was in on it. You don't show R rated movies to 13-year olds unless there is a very compelling reason, and the children have permission from their parents.

I also doubt the account by the child/parents. I think they just want the school board to show them the money.

3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 1:25 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:25

This situation demonstrates... (Below threshold)

4. Posted by DANEgerus | May 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
DANEgerus:

This situation demonstrates the real 'evil' of the 'agenda'. Homosexuality is a very specific subject within the context of sexual education. You cannot advocate that homosexuality is "normal" except within the context of the subject of sexuality. Certainly the school teacher, and administration, acknowledge this implicitly as they behaved in a secretive and conspiratorial manner. So...

Even if you are tolerant of homosexuality, which I am, it is criminal to sexualize children.

What if I, a heterosexual, held a class-room of 12-year-old cheerleaders hostage via my authority as a substitute teacher, and showed an R-rated film, that romanticized oral sex with older men. I'm not talking about showing Clinton(D)/Lewinsky Court-TV/CSPAN testimoney, I mean a film like Carried Away where Dennis Hopper does underage Amy Locane.

Would that be OK?

Obviously not.

4. Posted by DANEgerus | May 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:32

Actually, the "R" is suppos... (Below threshold)

5. Posted by Jim Addison | May 14, 2007 1:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jim Addison:

Actually, the "R" is supposed to mean the movie is not appropriate for younger people, irrespective of parental "permissions" or lack thereof. In any case, the classroom of a middle school is NEVER the appropriate place for such a viewing.

5. Posted by Jim Addison | May 14, 2007 1:35 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:35

She's twelve and in 8th gra... (Below threshold)

6. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 1:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

She's twelve and in 8th grade?
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6. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 1:36 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:36

Granddaddy Long Legs:</b... (Below threshold)

7. Posted by langtry | May 14, 2007 1:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
langtry:

Granddaddy Long Legs:

Am I the only one who thought Brokeback Mountain was a less-than mediocre movie?
Did you ever read the story when it appeared in The New Yorker? It was unreadable.

7. Posted by langtry | May 14, 2007 1:49 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:49

My son's middle school scie... (Below threshold)

8. Posted by yetanotherjohn | May 14, 2007 1:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
yetanotherjohn:

My son's middle school science class watched "The Core" after the standardized testing. It was mostly decompress, but the students were supposed to identify all the 'bad science' in the movie.

The movie is rated PG-13 for 'sci-fi life/death situations and brief strong language'. I had to sign a permission slip. There was no way they would approve Brokeback without at least a permission slip.

I would suggest that the parents file a child abuse complaint against the teacher and the school district given the movie is rated 'R for sexuality, nudity, language and some violence'. Heck, sue the teacher's union also.

8. Posted by yetanotherjohn | May 14, 2007 1:54 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:54

Ah, substitute teachers. G... (Below threshold)

9. Posted by mantis | May 14, 2007 1:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
mantis:

Ah, substitute teachers. Geniuses, all.

9. Posted by mantis | May 14, 2007 1:58 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 13:58

Something seems fishy about... (Below threshold)

10. Posted by J.R. | May 14, 2007 2:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
J.R.:

Something seems fishy about this story. It just doesn't seem realistic and it unless more info comes out, it certainly doesn't seem to be any hidden homo agenda of the Chicago school system. I mean come on, it was one showing to a single 8th grade class.

The info about the grandparents already confronting the school board and such suggests there is more to this story that we haven't heard.

If true, why would a sub and a principal risk their careers just to show a dumb movie?

10. Posted by J.R. | May 14, 2007 2:02 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 14:02

I don't think that the cont... (Below threshold)

11. Posted by Paul Hooson | May 14, 2007 2:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul Hooson:

I don't think that the content of most serious R rated movies are all that bad. Only the R rated horror or soft semiporn stuff like the AMERICAN PIE garbage gets sort of rough. But a lot of excellent films carry the R rating these days, and many will play basic cable in a slightly edited form for language, etc.

Whether this particular film is appropriate for an 8th grade class might be a question of whether the content is relevant to the classroom work or not. But SCHINDLER's LIST and many other great films carry an R rating.

11. Posted by Paul Hooson | May 14, 2007 2:32 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 14:32

So I take it Ms. Buford is ... (Below threshold)

12. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 2:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BillyBob:

So I take it Ms. Buford is a lesbian and she took it upon herself to show a gay cowboy movie to kids.

How pathetic. The gay agenda is going after younger and younger kids in their attempt to normalize their behavior.

Why should children have to be exposed to this shit so that gays can feel better about themselves?

I hope the teachers & school get sued big time. The fallout should set the gay agenda back for a short time.

Can anyone say Private Schools?

12. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 2:44 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 14:44

Hey Billbob, why don't you ... (Below threshold)

13. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BarneyG2000:

Hey Billbob, why don't you send your kids to a private Catholic school? What could possible go wrong with all those priests watching out for your kids?

13. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 3:07 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:07

Or trolling for her ephebop... (Below threshold)

14. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 3:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

Or trolling for her ephebophilic boyfriend, more likely than lesbian. What else has she taught? Discovery might be interesting.
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14. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 3:13 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:13

Hey Billbob, why don't y... (Below threshold)

15. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BillyBob:

Hey Billbob, why don't you send your kids to a private Catholic school? What could possible go wrong with all those priests watching out for your kids?

I do Barney, albeit not a Catholic one. Anything to keep my kids away from incompetent teachers, gay activists, legislators like Barney Frank.

I take it you like the idea of school teachers pressing the thoughts that homosexual behavior is normal and good into your kids psyche. It must have happened to you at an early age too.

I for one, will not tolerate manipulating children's values & morals from activist school teachers. It's bad enough that they can't teach the three R's, but they sure can read "Why Sally has Two Moms" to the kindergarten kids.

15. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:19

Billybob, in Jr High I was ... (Below threshold)

16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 3:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BarneyG2000:

Billybob, in Jr High I was taught about Aztec sacrifice rituals, African cannibalism, celibacy and homosexuality in ancient Rome and Greece (didn't the founding fathers model our society based on the Romans and the Greeks?) in history religion and literature classes. By your standards I should be eating dicks and sacrificing virgins.

16. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 3:46 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:46

Have you ever noticed that ... (Below threshold)

17. Posted by Michael | May 14, 2007 3:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Michael:

Have you ever noticed that all of Barney2000's posts are of a
smirky, sneering nature?

17. Posted by Michael | May 14, 2007 3:52 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:52

By your standards I shou... (Below threshold)

18. Posted by mantis | May 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
mantis:

By your standards I should be eating dicks and sacrificing virgins.

Here you go, Barn. Can't help you with the virgins.

18. Posted by mantis | May 14, 2007 3:57 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 15:57

Surely you gobbled figgy pu... (Below threshold)

19. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

Surely you gobbled figgy pudding along with goober peas in your youth.
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19. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 16:03

Gee Barney, THOSE are our o... (Below threshold)

20. Posted by SAHMmy | May 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
SAHMmy:

Gee Barney, THOSE are our only choices? Pro-gay substitute teachers attempting to normalize homosexuality or ephebophilic Catholic priests attempting to sodomize little boys? Both of those examples are bizarre events, and both are entirely unacceptable behaviors by teachers.

20. Posted by SAHMmy | May 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 16:14

mantis, actual I just got b... (Below threshold)

21. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 4:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BarneyG2000:

mantis, actual I just got back home from this:

www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ article?AID=/20070511/WDH0101/70511120/1981

21. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 14, 2007 4:16 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 16:16

Billybob, in Jr High I w... (Below threshold)

22. Posted by J.R. | May 14, 2007 4:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
J.R.:

Billybob, in Jr High I was taught about Aztec sacrifice rituals, African cannibalism, celibacy and homosexuality in ancient Rome and Greece

Yeah, and after those advanced interpretive courses, it was Differential Equations, then Fluid Mechanics and then recess! We must have gone to the same Jr. High.

22. Posted by J.R. | May 14, 2007 4:17 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 16:17

BarneyG obviously does not ... (Below threshold)

23. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 5:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BillyBob:

BarneyG obviously does not have any children, just like Barney Frank, but he must be a genius at fluid mechanics. Would you happen to be a member of NAMBLA?

23. Posted by BillyBob | May 14, 2007 5:03 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 17:03

Kim, I was 12 in 8th grade.... (Below threshold)

24. Posted by Oyster | May 14, 2007 5:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oyster:

Kim, I was 12 in 8th grade.

24. Posted by Oyster | May 14, 2007 5:06 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 17:06

My son's middle school s... (Below threshold)

25. Posted by Taltos | May 14, 2007 5:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Taltos:

My son's middle school science class watched "The Core" after the standardized testing. It was mostly decompress, but the students were supposed to identify all the 'bad science' in the movie.

There's good science in The Core?

25. Posted by Taltos | May 14, 2007 5:49 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 17:49

Oh, sure, O, it's possible,... (Below threshold)

26. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 8:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

Oh, sure, O, it's possible, even fairly common, but, if these were 8th graders it is deceptive to call them 12 and 13 year olds. Not of very much import, either way, but, there it is.
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26. Posted by kim | May 14, 2007 8:41 PM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 14, 2007 20:41

Here you go, Barn. Can't... (Below threshold)

27. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:43 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James Cloninger:

Here you go, Barn. Can't help you with the virgins

Well, Spotted Dick is made with currants or raisins...

...and the "72 virgins" of Islamic folklore may have been a mistranslation of "raisin".

So, I think you HAVE helped him with both.

27. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:43 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 15, 2007 03:43

And if you liked the Spotte... (Below threshold)

28. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:44 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James Cloninger:

And if you liked the Spotted Dick, you should taste the Faggots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food)

28. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:44 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 15, 2007 03:44

There's good science in ... (Below threshold)

29. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:47 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James Cloninger:

There's good science in The Core?

Well, there was...um...okay...

Well, compared to "An Inconvenient Truth" and "Loose Change", it was like watching "Cosmos".

29. Posted by James Cloninger | May 15, 2007 3:47 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 15, 2007 03:47

What a dilemna for Kookdom:... (Below threshold)

30. Posted by Wieder | May 15, 2007 9:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wieder:

What a dilemna for Kookdom: hatred of homosexuality vs. frivolous lawsuits.

30. Posted by Wieder | May 15, 2007 9:02 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 15, 2007 09:02

Homeschool, anyone?... (Below threshold)

31. Posted by Murdoc | May 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Murdoc:

Homeschool, anyone?

31. Posted by Murdoc | May 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Posted on May 15, 2007 10:10

Down under raisins fly.<br ... (Below threshold)

32. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 7:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:

Down under raisins fly.
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32. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 7:24 AM | Vote up Vote down Report this comment Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

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