I think this news makes sense.
Prince Harry will not deploy with his regiment to Iraq following "specific threats" to target him by insurgents fighting British and US forces.Update: W. Thomas Smith, Jr. at The Tank thinks this is embarrassing and disgraceful and that it is unfair to Harry. I agree with him that this is not fair to Harry, but I guess that is the price of fame and fortune. My thinking was that as crucial as the media strategy is to the terrorists, that they would all be gunning for Harry specifically, and that would not be fair to those in his regiment. Smith says he thinks this decision not to deploy will play into the hands of the terrorists' propaganda campaign.The head of the Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, said his presence in Iraq would expose the 22-year-old Prince as well as the troops serving with him to "a degree of risk that I now deem unacceptable".
In a statement, Clarence House admitted that the Prince was "very disappointed" that he would not be going with his squadron in the Household Cavalry.
But a spokesman insisted that he would not quit the Army.
He makes a good point, but so does Scott in the comments section. "Good. I'm glad he's not going. AQ would have done anything, ANYTHING, to get him on videotape for a beheading. His desire to serve is admirable; and in his family's tradition. But it's totally unfair to put other soldiers at risk to satisy his desire. In this day and age, royals have no place in battle. Soldier on, Harry. There's plenty more you can do elsewhere."



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The purest admission yet th... (Below threshold)1. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 9:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The purest admission yet that the "assymetrical warfare" malarkey has been an excuse not to achieve any concrete purpose. No lines, they say: we can't just "move" the natives; gotta wend our way through 'em and hope they don't get us in the back.
And there are HQ posters that swoop in from time to time to put lipstick on the pig (screehawk), but it's still a pig. Without at least two battle lines (better yet, 3) and secure logistical lines, we might as well go home. We're sitting on an anthill.
Yeah I know: we're basically guarding and patrolling around US construction sites, and chasing the latest crew that got the drop on us. Sad. You think #3 to the Crown is going to be put out as bait?
1. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 9:33 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:33
2. Posted by Scrapiron | May 16, 2007 9:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The news media was successful in making him a bigger target than the pope would be if he held mass in a public square in Bagdad. Actually they were delighted to set him up to be killed, just for the story. If anyone says 'i work for ???? media, give them a wide berth and keep your mouth shut. Say no and they'll tell the world you said yes. Liars to the core.
2. Posted by Scrapiron | May 16, 2007 9:46 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:46
3. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 9:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can imagine how he felt, given it was described, understatedly, as 'very disappointed'. Still, good for him to know that there are authorities higher than he.
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3. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 9:51 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:51
4. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 9:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bD, it's endgame over there and Saddam is gone. Have you any more missions for the Iraqis to accomplish?
Hey, check out Chalabi, the Master of the Bazaar.
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4. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 9:53 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:53
5. Posted by Scott | May 16, 2007 9:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good. I'm glad he's not going.
AQ would have done anything, ANYTHING, to get him on videotape for a beheading.
His desire to serve is admirable; and in his family's tradition.
But it's totally unfair to put other soldiers at risk to satisy his desire.
In this day and age, royals have no place in battle.
Soldier on, Harry. There's plenty more you can do elsewhere.
5. Posted by Scott | May 16, 2007 9:53 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:53
6. Posted by Scott | May 16, 2007 9:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good. I'm glad he's not going.
AQ would have done anything, ANYTHING, to get him on videotape for a beheading.
His desire to serve is admirable; and in his family's tradition.
But it's totally unfair to put other soldiers at risk to satisy his desire.
In this day and age, royals have no place in battle.
Soldier on, Harry. There's plenty more you can do elsewhere.
6. Posted by Scott | May 16, 2007 9:54 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 21:54
7. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bD, it's endgame over there and Saddam is gone. Have you any more missions for the Iraqis to accomplish?
Hey, check out Chalabi, the Master of the Bazaar.
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Chalabi was sponsored by Bush to be Iraqi caliph at the instigation of Wolfowitz and Feith. Too bad he was an Iranian spy. And stole at least $1 BILLION dollars upon assuming office in Baghdad. Plame's CIA busted him. Then, last I heard he was fluttering loose again, avoiding INTERPOL. Hazy about the last part. Down the neocon memory hole.
7. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:10 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:10
8. Posted by marc | May 16, 2007 10:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD[elusional]
Without at least two battle lines (better yet, 3) and secure logistical lines, we might as well go home. We're sitting on an anthill.
So what are you saying, that with no "secure logistical lines" the U.S. troops aren't getting what they need?
Got proof of that?
Time and CNN can't go so far as to hide from reality any longer.
But you... you'll find a way to do it.
8. Posted by marc | May 16, 2007 10:31 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:31
9. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 10:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bD, those are lame out of date talking points. The last I saw Chalabi was deep in the negotiations over the oil revenue sharing legislation. The Master of the Bazaar. You misrepresent him from fear, and underestimate him from ignorance.
And look at the mission he accomplished deposing Saddam. That alone gets him the undying gratitude of four fifths of the Iraqis.
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9. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 10:37 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:37
10. Posted by James Cloninger | May 16, 2007 10:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
In this day and age, royals have no place in battle.
True. But, he could take after his Gran, and be a truck/jeep mechanic. You can say what you want about Her Majesty, but She can fix a carburetter. :)
10. Posted by James Cloninger | May 16, 2007 10:38 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:38
11. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
We have air superiority. In conjunction with search and destroy missions, it's wasted. The air is too vulnerable to ground fire.
11. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:41 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:41
12. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And look at the mission he accomplished deposing Saddam. That alone gets him the undying gratitude of four fifths of the Iraqis.
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CHALABI deposed Saddaam???? Are you, or have you ever been, a member of Likud?
Is your true name Shaha Riza?
Do you were a fedora, even if only in private?
12. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 10:48 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 22:48
13. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 11:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
typo: wear!!
marc, trucks running the guantlet is TECHNICALLY a supply line, but running the same PERMANENT gauntlet is bad. The roads should be clear of enemy combatants, and since no one wears uniforms, that will include everyone. They can make a road in the desert or make a street detour. Who cares? Requisition buildings.
From what I understand, they're supplying the same semi-permanent installations and sites. So allowing L-shaped ambushes and IED sets is BS. Of course, we need more troops, like Shinseki said in 03. Now it's seat of the pants.
13. Posted by bryanD | May 16, 2007 11:00 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:00
14. Posted by Wyatt Earp | May 16, 2007 11:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That's a shame, because I believe Harry really wanted to serve over there. A kid that young, they think they will live forever. Kudos to the kid for serving at all.
14. Posted by Wyatt Earp | May 16, 2007 11:01 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:01
15. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 11:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, bD, isn't Chalabi the one who hornswoggled Judy Miller into sweet-talking Pinch into ordering the Old Grey Dame to lie us into war?
These agoric deals take special handling. Saddam was a putz.
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15. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 11:22 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:22
16. Posted by Lee Ward | May 16, 2007 11:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The prince would have been a juicy target for kidnapping - at which point it would turn into a media circus for months, if not years.
Sending him to Iraq was bonehead idea, and while the decision to send him may have been P.R. motivated the big bad media (you know - the same evil MSM that scares the twinkies out of Scrappy) didn't make that decision -- it was probably some moron conservative who decided the boy needed to serve.
16. Posted by Lee Ward | May 16, 2007 11:23 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:23
17. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 11:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What a moronic thought, Lee. The soldier volunteered.
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17. Posted by kim | May 16, 2007 11:29 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:29
18. Posted by Larkin | May 16, 2007 11:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>> In this day and age, royals have no place in battle.
In this day and age, royalty has no place in society.
18. Posted by Larkin | May 16, 2007 11:41 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:41
19. Posted by Hillary Clinton | May 16, 2007 11:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
God, Larkin, don't tell Kerry or his Teresa that.
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19. Posted by Hillary Clinton | May 16, 2007 11:59 PM |
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Posted on May 16, 2007 23:59
20. Posted by Jim Addison | May 17, 2007 4:11 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee ~ Actually, the tradition in UK has been one of passing those decisions along to the military, which has rarely had to make a difficult one.
The Prince will no doubt, in time, appreciate the risk he would create for his comrades.
If anything is to be questioned here, it is the military decision not to deploy Harry. These risks should have been obvious from the beginning - did the brass delay their decision to allow him some good PR over his determination to go with his unit?
20. Posted by Jim Addison | May 17, 2007 4:11 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 04:11
21. Posted by Marvin | May 17, 2007 10:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Once again the British surrender without firing a shot.
The Brits should have told the media to 'bugger off' and sent the Prince to Iraq.
They should have prepared stunt doubles for the Prince and baited several traps for the terrorists.
But no.
the Brits surrendered without firing a shot.
21. Posted by Marvin | May 17, 2007 10:25 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 10:25
22. Posted by Lee Ward | May 17, 2007 10:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"What a moronic thought, Lee. The soldier volunteered."
Brave guy, but irrelevant. He doesn't make that decision.
22. Posted by Lee Ward | May 17, 2007 10:36 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 10:36
23. Posted by kim | May 17, 2007 11:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Every soldier decides.
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23. Posted by kim | May 17, 2007 11:02 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 11:02
24. Posted by Oyster | May 17, 2007 11:13 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"These risks should have been obvious from the beginning - did the brass delay their decision to allow him some good PR over his determination to go with his unit?"
'Zactly. Even *I* thought it would have been a dumb idea right from the start. If I could reach that conclusion as soon as I knew Harry had joined, then the military certainly did.
24. Posted by Oyster | May 17, 2007 11:13 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 11:13
25. Posted by kim | May 17, 2007 11:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thank you, O. He chose to go; someone just now summoned the authority to stop him.
And I agree, he should have been allowed to go. You think he wouldn't have been protected?
My latest theory. When Sadr the Lesser's gang started in on Sunni Baghdadians in earnest, our military defended the Sunni, whose relatives in the boonies heard and wondered if the oddly accented among them weren't beyond the pale. Note the recovery of Anbar and Diyala. Note that Sadr the Lesser is over the border in Iran. Note that the other big Shia deathsquad just threw in with Sistani who'd expressed exasperation with Sadr.
It this ain't endgame, I'm a roomful of monkeys.
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25. Posted by kim | May 17, 2007 11:45 AM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 11:45
26. Posted by Arthur | May 17, 2007 5:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can hardly do better than quoting Steyn on this.
> it confirms that one of the last credible militaries in the western world is helpless not just in the face of gangster provocations but in the mere threat thereof.
... it calls into question the whole point of Royals in the Armed Forces, which is true. But it also calls into question the whole point of the Armed Forces
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDBmZWIxZGY4NWY5ZGM3NzEyOThmZDVmMDM5NzcxYzU=
26. Posted by Arthur | May 17, 2007 5:09 PM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 17:09
27. Posted by JRM | May 17, 2007 7:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the Brits missed an opportunity on this one. Announce that he is there (whether he really is or not) and you have just set up the biggest flytrap in Iraq. Of course you have to be prepared to take care of the flies you attract, but I think they could handle that.
27. Posted by JRM | May 17, 2007 7:22 PM |
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Posted on May 17, 2007 19:22