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Did You Hear About the Sderot Attack?

Bob Owens has a post at Confederate Yankee about the rocket attack on a high school in Israel that is getting far less attention than the Israeli response to it. (I bet it would have gotten plenty of attention if that high school had been in Iraq.)


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You really need to stop lis... (Below threshold)
mantis:

You really need to stop listening to that idiot (but you won't, as it serves your dishonest cause). What search terms does he use? "Sderot high school missile." Why does he use the word missile instead of rocket (hint: it's not because he doesn't know the difference)? Because he knows it will reduce the results and support his "media doesn't report on attacks on Israel" meme. What do you find if you search for "Sderot school rocket" in Google News? Holy shit, hundreds of hits!.

Dishonesty through doctored searches is such an easy thing to reveal. Pity you have no skepticism about ConYank's claims, despite how often he is wrong.

Mantis - Did you just copy ... (Below threshold)

Mantis - Did you just copy and paste this exact comment over at C.Y.? I mean, it's word for word! Lazy, man. Simply lazy.

I read it on Little Green F... (Below threshold)

I read it on Little Green Footballs, of course the school is lacking location, for recognition.
You are absolutely correct...unless the school was in Palestine!

mantis - Even using your se... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

mantis - Even using your search which yielded over 200 hits, the stories reporting the results of the Israeli air force targeting Hamas leaders who are blamed for ordering the attacks on Sderot was over 3,000 stories, do you only reinforce Bob's point. Even more compelling to me though was that in the stories he cited by news organizations like CNN and NYT, there was no mention made of the initial attack on the school until the 9th or 10th paragraphs. Those stories focused on Israel's retaliatory strike, but gave much less attention to the reason for them.

I agree with mantis (sorry,... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

I agree with mantis (sorry, mantis!)
CY is famously linked from many a LW snark site. He's almost as famous for being jump-the-gun-wrong, as Ace is for being a sexually-acting-out wierdo.

BryanD STFU! Idiot.... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

BryanD STFU! Idiot.

Mantis, please explain the ... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Mantis, please explain the difference, in your mind, between a missle and a rocket. Seems that a missle is what a rocket propels. Looking forward to a dictionary definition.

mantis,I'm not sur... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

mantis,

I'm not sure of the history as I don't read CY, but I think you're being a little dishonest on this one. Lorie has already pointed out the discrepancy.

Zelsdorf,There's a... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Zelsdorf,

There's a huge difference between the two.


A rocket is a smaller usually short range unguided explosive projectile fired from a tube whereas a missle is a larger sometimes multi-stage device that has a warhead.

That is neither here nor there for the subject, just a clarification as you asked for.

Nice catch, Mantis. I re-ra... (Below threshold)

Nice catch, Mantis. I re-ran the search, replacing "missile" with "rocket."

I'm now up to a massive 68 hits possibly mentioning yesterday's Sderot high school rocket attack in total, versus almost 3,100 focusing on Israel's retaliatory strike.

As for your search claiming "hundreds of hits," I suggest you look again: the overwhelming majority of stories that came up as possible hits in your search seem to have been written prior to yesterday, starting about half-way down the first page of Google search results.

I made a mistake. You're just dumb.

Even using your search w... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Even using your search which yielded over 200 hits, the stories reporting the results of the Israeli air force targeting Hamas leaders who are blamed for ordering the attacks on Sderot was over 3,000 stories, do you only reinforce Bob's point.

So there were a few hundred stories about the initial rocket attack, and then when Israel responded shortly thereafter, which resulted in many deaths, there were many more stories? What do you expect reporters to do, cover the rocket attack, in which no one was killed, and ignore the response, all according to your desire for them not to report on Israeli actions? Total bullshit. And some more:

Even more compelling to me though was that in the stories he cited by news organizations like CNN and NYT, there was no mention made of the initial attack on the school until the 9th or 10th paragraphs.

In both those cases that was the second story they did! ConYank, and you, ignore their initial stories covering the rocket attack.

There are two previous stories in the times covering the rocket attacks on Sderot, and in the CNN story, what is the first sentence?

Israel retaliated Thursday against two days of Hamas rocket attacks...

And at the very top, in the "Story Highlights," this is listed:

Three rockets land in Sderot, Israel, one hitting a school

So basically, your dispute is that CNN did not mention the word "school" high enough in the story (even though they mention it before the first graf)? A far cry from "the media pays no attention to attacks on Israel," don't you think?

In short, you guys are full of shit. Keep waving your hands though.

Mantis - Did you just co... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Mantis - Did you just copy and paste this exact comment over at C.Y.? I mean, it's word for word! Lazy, man. Simply lazy.

I just wanted to see how long it would take him to delete it. Took about 4 minutes.

I'm now up to a massive ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I'm now up to a massive 68 hits possibly mentioning yesterday's Sderot high school rocket attack in total, versus almost 3,100 focusing on Israel's retaliatory strike.

That's because you still kept "high" in there, even though you're well aware that many reports would just call it a school. As for the 3,100 stories, those are covering the entire story (both the rocket attacks and the retaliatory strikes), not just the rocket attacks, because you know, more events have actually occurred since then. Apparently you think the news should ignore, well, news.

As for your search claiming "hundreds of hits," I suggest you look again: the overwhelming majority of stories that came up as possible hits in your search seem to have been written prior to yesterday, starting about half-way down the first page of Google search results.

You look again, and try ignoring the old stories (nice attempt at deflection). And by the way, anyone who has read your blog knows that you know the difference between a missile and a rocket, and that you know Qassam's are always referred to as rockets (because they are). Admit your dishonesty for once.

Mantis, you know full well ... (Below threshold)

Mantis, you know full well I don't allow profanity to be posted in my comments, so you made you post, knowing it would be deleted on those grounds alone, as your comments have been deleted in the past for the exact same reason.

There's quite a bit of duplicity going on, but I think it seems to point back rather consistently to you.

"unless the school was in P... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

"unless the school was in Palestine" It would make front page headlines if Israel attacked a terrorist camp in Palestine without the terrorists striking Israel first, and it only goes to page 2 then. The headline on page 2 still reads 'Israel attacks', not Israel strikes back.

Mantis will never learn until he's laying in the street bleeding to death and someone tells him a terrorists he has supported for years did it. Then his answer would be 'oh no'.

I'm really beginning to feel sorry for the democrats. How can that many people be so stupid and walk the streets without a guard/caretaker? I know most don't, and have never, worked and their families have been welfare riders since 1865, but come on, at least the kindergarden education should have stuck to some of them, especially the ones elected to congress. There is proof every day that none of it took hold. They're still operating on pre-school brain waves.

The comedy of the last election continues. Whoever said, 'bring a group of clowns to town and circus will break out', was a very smart person. Daily circus performance by Peeeeloshi and Reid. Can't beat that for high priced entertainment. Republicans are smarter than that but realize a lot of voters aren't, so they join in during working hours. I call that job scared.

Mantis - Did you just c... (Below threshold)
marc:

Mantis - Did you just copy and paste this exact comment over at C.Y.? I mean, it's word for word! Lazy, man. Simply lazy.

And if I read the comments correctly over there it would appear as if "mantis" tried a little sock puppetry by using the name "Umbrage."

Beyond that, mantis and bryanD[elusional, considering you apparently believe CY is so wrong so many times would you care to cite with link a few examples?

Mantis, you know full we... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Mantis, you know full well I don't allow profanity to be posted in my comments,

Yeah, that doesn't wash, as you don't delete comments that use such language unless it serves your ends.

See here, here, and here for some examples.

Technically any projectile ... (Below threshold)
Taltos:

Technically any projectile weapon is a missile.

And if I read the commen... (Below threshold)
mantis:

And if I read the comments correctly over there it would appear as if "mantis" tried a little sock puppetry by using the name "Umbrage."

Ooh, the ultimate crime of sock puppetry! Now I'll be ridiculed across the interwebs and no one will read my blog, even though I'm anonymous anyway and I don't have a blog! The horror!

The reason I used a different name was ConYank would delete anything I posted using this name, and I wanted to see how long he would take to delete it based on content. Not long.

Taltos, perhaps in the defi... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Taltos, perhaps in the definition of the word itself, yes...militarily, no.

I didn't notice it til CY m... (Below threshold)
marc:

I didn't notice it til CY menmtioned it, but.... following mantis' linked google search link gives 283 results.

However as correctly noted by CY all refs to the last rocket/missle atteck stops half way down the first page every story after that is dated (Washington Times, DC) May 13, 2007 or farther in the past.

mantis (or is it "Umbrage.")... stop digging. At worst you are doing what you "claim" CY is doing. At worst your a lying piece of dung.

mantis:Ooh, th... (Below threshold)
marc:

mantis:

Ooh, the ultimate crime of sock puppetry! Now I'll be ridiculed across the interwebs and no one will read my blog,

YOU have a "blog?" Who'd a thunk it, what's the url?

Taltos, perhaps in the d... (Below threshold)
Taltos:

Taltos, perhaps in the definition of the word itself, yes...militarily, no.

I know, was just having a smartass moment.

Damnit Taltos, don't dilute... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Damnit Taltos, don't dilute the drama!

mantis (or is it "Umbrag... (Below threshold)
mantis:

mantis (or is it "Umbrage.")... stop digging. At worst you are doing what you "claim" CY is doing. At worst your a lying piece of dung.

I'm selectively entering search words specifically to get a result which supports my dishonest conclusion? I don't think so. The worst thing you could accuse me of is overestimating how many hits are from the past few days, which in any case I am not.

The fact is, looking through that list, I see that the NYTimes, CNN, Reuters, UPI, and countless local papers picking up the AP story have at the very least mentioned the Sderot school. The school attack which, again, resulted in a few minor injuries, and since it is among the 50+ rockets that have been fired into Israel, the fighting that's been going on for days in Gaza, and the Israel retaliatory strikes on Hamas, a damaged school doesn't exactly seem like the only thing going on right now. Yet, CY decides to dishonestly purport that there are a total of two stories that have covered the school. Why? Because he hates the media and does not hesitate to make shit up to condemn them with. I can't fathom why, since there's plenty of material without using not-so-clever dishonest search engine techniques, but whatever.

But go after me all you want, ignore my point, quibble about whether it was 68 stories or 210 stories or 133 stories (all of which are exponentially more than two). If you think that bothers me, or that labeling me a "sock puppet" will, you're mistaken. Btw, "mantis" is not actually my real name, so I've been a sock puppet all along. You just caught on now. Kudos, Inspector!

mantis, I'm certainly impre... (Below threshold)

mantis, I'm certainly impressed.

I presently have 2,214 blog entries, and 16,487 comments. Of those, you found three posts with alleged profanity.

Find another 1,645 comments with profanity in them attached to my blog entries, and you'll be up to a whopping one percent.

I'm a regular Lenny Bruce.

As for your claim that I'd delete anything you posted because of a certain name... well, you're entitled to your delusions.

Your comment was deleted based upon content, specifically profanity, as have been a handful of posts today across several entries, each from a different person, conservative and liberal.

That you turn out to be the kind of person to engage in sockpuppetry is frankly unsurprising.

Ooh, the ultimate crime ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Ooh, the ultimate crime of sock puppetry! Now I'll be ridiculed across the interwebs and no one will read my blog,

YOU have a "blog?" Who'd a thunk it, what's the url?

I know that a comma looks somewhat like a period, but when you see one you should really keep on reading until you reach the one that doesn't have that little tail hanging down. It'll help with comprehension, I promise.

I presently have 2,214 b... (Below threshold)
mantis:

I presently have 2,214 blog entries, and 16,487 comments. Of those, you found three posts with alleged profanity.

Yeah, it took all of 5 seconds using the search engine. You see, the key was I didn't include words I already knew wouldn't show up. You should try it sometime.

mantis/ "Umbrage," bryanD[e... (Below threshold)
marc:

mantis/ "Umbrage," bryanD[elusional... still waiting to read the other examples of CY being so wrong for so long. Got links?

There were plenty more, by ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

There were plenty more, by the way. I just searched the word I had used in my comment and took three from the top few.

As for your claim that I'd delete anything you posted because of a certain name... well, you're entitled to your delusions.

You've done it before, without profanity as an excuse.

That you turn out to be the kind of person to engage in sockpuppetry is frankly unsurprising.

Just this once, as a test. I see you added an update (a somewhat less dishonest one), so I guess you passed this time. You can ask Jay if I've ever engaged in sock puppetry around here.

mantis:Yeah, i... (Below threshold)
marc:

mantis:

Yeah, it took all of 5 seconds using the search engine. You see, the key was I didn't include words I already knew wouldn't show up. You should try it sometime.

Your original words and google link

What do you find if you search for "Sderot school rocket" in Google News? Holy shit, hundreds of hits!.

The link contains exactly 283 related stories.

On the first page we find exactly 7, count'em 7 from 2 hours ago back to the day of the attack.

Of those 7, 5 are Israeli news services that 995 of the American public would never read.

After those seven all links are to stories prior to the school rocket attack.

On the first page we fin... (Below threshold)
mantis:

On the first page we find exactly 7, count'em 7 from 2 hours ago back to the day of the attack.

Taking a page out of CY's book, eh marc?

UPI
IHT
Bloomberg
Reuters
CBS News
New York Times A new one.

You were saying some dishonest crap about "the first page" as if that means something?

Come on folks, you're all w... (Below threshold)
TR19667:

Come on folks, you're all wrapped up in Mantis' dellusions. This thread is about those eeeevilll stinking CHEWSSSSSSSSSS.....

Good thing the media's around to counter them, wheh!

According to my reference m... (Below threshold)

According to my reference materials, the primary difference between a "rocket" and a "missile" is that a missile has a guidance system; rockets are purely unguided, ballistic weapons -- one points them in the general direction of the target and fires.

Also, not all missiles use rockets for propulsion; cruise missiles use jet engines, for example.

J.

..yes that is tragic...so i... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

..yes that is tragic...so is this from today BBC

"Iraq faces the distinct possibility of collapse and fragmentation, UK foreign policy think tank Chatham House says.

Its report says the Iraqi government is now largely powerless and irrelevant in many parts of the country. "

So yes..like Gaza..there is no effective govt..and terror reigns...

Back on topic..This attack ... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Back on topic..This attack is despicable..shools should be safe...I curse all attacks like Sderot..
..after all it is the children who have know voice...
I feel the same helpless anger over this attack..as I did this last year...
http://web.amnesty.org/wire/November2006/Lebanon

sorry for the spelling gaff... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

sorry for the spelling gaffes ..as a teacher...all violence against children is abhorrent..

The difference professor Po... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

The difference professor Postal does not care to share, or does not think matters, is that one school was target, the other was not. One attack happened to hit a school, the other one purposely hit the school because they knew how abhorent their enemy would find blowing up innocent children.
Hmmm. Which one was which?

ScSIwuzzy:The rock... (Below threshold)
Kapow:

ScSIwuzzy:

The rocket attack on the high school in derot was an abhorrent, dispicalbe act perpetrated by evil, vicious cowards. However, it should be noted that the school was not "targeted". Rockets, as Jay Tea amongst others has noted, are not targeted weapons (Sematic quibble - in general a 'missile' nowadays implies a weapon of greater sophistication, often including some rudimetary guidance system) but rather explosives fired in a general direction with a 'hope for a hit' sort of mentaility. Please note, I am not seeking to detract from the egregious evil nature of this attack - if you fire a rocket at a town what do you expect to hit? Well, towns have schools, and hospitals, and moreover lots and lots of people in them. the fact remains, this attack was not "aimed" at a school as perhaps a suicide bomber or other targeted device might be. I suppse I spitting hairs here, but my point is the act is bad enough on it's own. However, to imply that it was more calculated than it was is dishonest.
Confederate Yankee:
As a proud (great great grand)son of a confederate veteran - Confederate Yankee may I suggest you go home. You got pwned by Mantis and I don't care where you come from really, you are a disgrace to the conferderate name.

The profusion of internatio... (Below threshold)
Joe:

The profusion of international news available on the Internet has made it increasingly difficult for the average American to ignore the rest of the world; a trend researchers say threatens Americans' long, proud history of disregarding anything not about them.

"With all the foreign newspapers and multi-cultural sites, the Internet is making it almost impossible for the average American to remain uninformed and apathetic," said Samantha Lessborn of Washington State University, which conducted the survey. "Americans can still do it. But it now takes effort, whereas before it was as easy as turning off Tom Brokaw whenever he said 'In South Korea today...'"

According to survey participant Danny Grisham, a 22-year-old from Cheyenne, Wyoming, it's not just the plethora of international news on the Web that is irritating. "Look, I can get around the news. I just turn off Reuters headlines in MyYahoo," he said. "But even some of the search sites like Yahoo and Alta Vista are available in different languages. Like everybody in the world doesn't speak English. Yeah, right."

"I can see where it's important if we're, like, beating some country in the Olympics or bombing them or, ideally, both," Grisham added. "But if some Colombian drug lord sinks a ferry full of Israeli soldiers in North Latvoania or Serbo-Malaysia, or wherever, and Americans aren't involved, what has that got to do with me?"

Other respondents said they were appalled, not just by the availability of non-U.S. news, but by the way important U.S. news is reported by some of these foreign sites. "Yesterday, for instance, the St. Louis Rams beat the Atlanta Falcons, OK, and I go to the London Times site and it's not even there," said Chip Pernadge of Kansas City, Mo. "Jesus, no wonder those guys lost the war and had to give Hong Kong back to Canada."

Sensing a market opportunity, Net Nanny, makers of Net Nanny filtering software, announced this week it will introduce Net Narrow, an English-only product that automatically filters out content that appears to be international. Specifically, the software looks for world datelines and keywords indicative of irrelevant foreign stories, including "Shiite," "post-Apartheid," and "Bob Geldof."

Survey-taker Craig Barker of Brooklyn, New York, said he will be among the first to get Net Narrow. "On the Web, there are so many ways to get news from so many different places, I could really get some fresh insights into what's going on in other countries if I wanted to," he said. "But I don't want to."

"You'd think these Internet people would know that," Barker added. "I mean, that's why the Internet is called America Online, right? It's supposed to be about America."
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Kim, Jay Lorie.

This is why you think you know everything and also why, we, in Europe are so appalled by your President!

Rockets aren't targetted? ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Rockets aren't targetted? Do they aim them just anywhere, then?

Apparently it is OK to blow up a school, targetted or not, but not OK to go after the perpetrators.

C'mon, mantis.
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What is it with the idiots ... (Below threshold)
kim:

What is it with the idiots who claim a difference with whether or not the school was targetted. It was downrange from the people who lit it, who got lit themselves. Anyone with a problem with this is an idiot. So, obviously, mantis doesn't have a problem with this since he isn't an idiot.

Right mantis?
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You know mantis, before you... (Below threshold)
bains:

You know mantis, before you start calling another idiot for imprecise search terms, then trotting out your own, you might want to check your own results. I note that nearly all of those 384 hits go to stories before 17 May, 2007.

I guess only in the reality-based community can a news report be written before the incident occurs.

Rockets aren't targetted... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Rockets aren't targetted? Do they aim them just anywhere, then?

Apparently it is OK to blow up a school, targetted or not, but not OK to go after the perpetrators.

C'mon, mantis.

Kim, at the bottom of each comment is the name of the commenter. I suggest you read them. You are responding to someone's comments other than mine. I did not say that rockets aren't targeted, and I definitely did not say that it's ok to blow up a school but not ok to go after the perpetrators. I think these Hamas scum should definitely pay for this. They saw that their fighting with Fatah was not working out in their favor, and decided to pull Israel into the mix. And they did so, worthless little fucks that they are, by attacking innocent Israelis. This pisses me off to no end.

My only argument in this thread, you will see, concerns media coverage. The constant bleating from some on the right about how the media will not cover attacks on Israel is hogwash. I've known reporters who have worked in Israel and Gaza, and their job is not easy. They don't deserve the unfounded accusations of idiotic bloggers who don't know their ass from a hole in the wall.

What is it with the idiots who claim a difference with whether or not the school was targetted.

I don't know; its a stupid argument. Attacking innocent civilians is despicable regardless of whether they meant to hit a certain building or not.

So, obviously, mantis doesn't have a problem with this since he isn't an idiot.

Right mantis?

Right, I'm not an idiot.

You know mantis, before ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

You know mantis, before you start calling another idiot for imprecise search terms, then trotting out your own, you might want to check your own results. I note that nearly all of those 384 hits go to stories before 17 May, 2007.

Yet another genius. The rocket attacks occurred on May 15. Coverage of the rocket attacks was immediate and ongoing, covering subsequent events as they occurred. Both the UPI and the IHT (AP) stories I linked above are from May 15 and cover the rocket attacks. Some of the stories using my search terms were older (nowhere close to "nearly all." In fact, 1/4 at most), yes, but there were a great many that were covering the event in question. You'll notice I provided links in a later post to the UPI, IHT AP story, Bloomberg, Reuters, CBS News, and the NYTimes, all of which were pulled from that Google News search. This puts the lie to Bob Owens assertion that only two stories had been written, and the later assertion by marc that only Israeli news were covering it. That is my point.

If you want to quibble about whether it was 100 stories or 300 stories, you're missing the point entirely. The point is that Bob Owens claimed that the media was ignoring this event, through the obviously dishonest manipulation of search terms. This was demonstrably and immensely false.

I guess only in the reality-based community can a news report be written before the incident occurs.

Hey bains, you're an idiot. Try clicking some links and doing some reading of the stories linked before you make stupid comments.

OK, I'll have to take you s... (Below threshold)
kim:

OK, I'll have to take you seriously again. That was nice about Hamas and Fatah.

And your argument with the media missed it's goal and hit a school instead. The media isn't just missing the boat, they are propelling it in the wrong direction.

What's behind the Green Hat?
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Sorry, another of your, um,... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Sorry, another of your, um, esoteric posts I don't understand.

Well, I see that Bob, Lorie... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Well, I see that Bob, Lorie, and their defender marc have stopped waving their hands and have given up defending this little piece of trash. Too bad they are all unwilling to admit they were wrong.

You'd understand Jay Rosen ... (Below threshold)
kim:

You'd understand Jay Rosen at PressThink pretty well. I don't.
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Well, I'm somewhat familiar... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Well, I'm somewhat familiar with Rosen, and even more so with his mentor, Postman. Don't really know what you're saying though.

I'm saying you're smug abou... (Below threshold)
kim:

I'm saying you're smug about media bias.
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Oh, sure I am. Claims of m... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Oh, sure I am. Claims of media bias come from a perspective based on two faulty premises:

1. Objective journalism is possible
2. Journalists should be objective

Once you free yourself from those illusions, you can talk about the media like an adult. There aren't many adults around, unfortunately. Just a bunch of braying children. They're real easy to identify; they're the ones always talking about the "liberal media" or the "corporate media."

Oh, I've freed myself from ... (Below threshold)
kim:

Oh, I've freed myself from that conceit: journalists haven't, at least they aren't honest with their public about objectivity; they're smug.
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This, you see, is why talk ... (Below threshold)
kim:

This, you see, is why talk radio and blogdom are rising while print and televised media is sinking. One of those two on either side of the divide is honest about objectivity, and one is not.
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Poor mantis. He never cease... (Below threshold)

Poor mantis. He never ceases to amuse me.

In this thread, our little sockpuppet has attacked me multiple times, and has been proven to be fairly obtuse across the board.

He's stated:

This puts the lie to Bob Owens assertion that only two stories had been written...

Really? I guess he skipped over this part of the post, DIRECTLY UNDER the portion he cited:

To be fair, Google News did not capture all mentions of the story.

I then provide two of those stories Google News didn't capture.

He claims that I allow profanity when it suits my needs, and for proof, he cite three examples profane comments I missed deleting of more than 16,000 comments, left over 2 plus years. Of course, he couldn't know that the folks I delete comments from the most are conservative regulars, but I have a feeling he wouldn't care anyway.

He claims that I "hate the media." Funny, as I get along with many folks in the profession rather well, and worked in the media for three years. Of course, don't take my word for it.

Ask Associated Press photographer Maya Alleruzzo, who I defended just last month when several blogs got a story wrong about her. Or Hal Straus, who interviewed me in the Washington Post, and honored me by letting me guest blog at the Post for a week, something only Josh Marshall and Andrew Sullivan did before me.

Or you could ask Dr. David Perlmutter who teaches at the William Allen White School of Journalism & Mass Communications at the Univesity of Kansas, who gave me an "A+" for investigative journalism even though I wasn't one of his students, and who has used my blog in his class, to help train a new generation of journalists. I maintain contact with war zone journalists in Iraq and Afghanistan, the executive editors of several newspapers, a radio talk show host, a pair of documentary filmmakers, etc.

You get the picture.

Too bad they are all unwilling to admit they were wrong.

What amazes me the most about this thread is how he first convinced himself that I was part of a Rovian plot when I typed missile instead of rocket in a Google search, and from there, went on to string together a series of far more inaccurate statements (some of which are noted above) in a effort to "prove" his point.

Lorie, God bless her, seems to pity the troll, and doesn't feed him, but I can help it. Tweaking him is just far too much fun.

To be fair, Google News ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

To be fair, Google News did not capture all mentions of the story.

You are correct, you did note two more stories that Google News did not capture (if only to berate the writers/editors). One wonders why this didn't register with you, why you didn't ask yourself, "why didn't Google News catch those stories it was easy for me to find? Could it have anything to do with my search terms?"

He claims that I allow profanity when it suits my needs, and for proof, he cite three examples profane comments I missed deleting of more than 16,000 comments, left over 2 plus years.

There were more, but it's beside the point. You have deleted comments of mine which contained no profanity for whatever reason. Your excuse that you deleted my most recent comment because it contained profanity did not make any sense in light of that, and the fact that I could find profanity on your site both in the comments and in excerpts you yourself have posted. Excuse me for checking to see if there is any basis behind your assertions.

Of course, he couldn't know that the folks I delete comments from the most are conservative regulars, but I have a feeling he wouldn't care anyway.

If you say so. It's your blog, do what you want with it. I'm more interested in the truth of your words, not the intricacies of your comment policy.

He claims that I "hate the media."

Ok, so there are some in the media you like. You'll excuse me from inferring from your site that you a) really like guns, and b) really dislike the media, especially photographers. If I am mistaken in this inference I apologize, but I don't think it's unfounded.

What amazes me the most about this thread is how he first convinced himself that I was part of a Rovian plot when I typed missile instead of rocket in a Google search,

A Rovian plot? You make me laugh. Hell, I would have chalked it up to a mistake if it had been someone else, but you for damn sure know the difference between a missile and a rocket, you know Qassam's are rockets, and you know the media always refers to them as such. A simple mistake? I suppose it's possible, but very unlikely. You don't get an "A+ in Investigative Journalism" this time around.

And that's the shame of it really, because you're capable of doing good work, such as with the Reuter's vehicle/Israeli missile story. But your ego and your intense desire to prove "the media" wrong make you sloppy and vindictive. Superimposing Bush's face onto a grieving woman? Jamil Hussein obsession? Your willingness, not unlike Lorie here, to believe anything Drudge puts up (Michael Ware)? Ditto IDF press statements? Iranian drones and F-14s?

But most of all you annoy me because I know Hank Morgan, and you, sir, are no Hank Morgan.

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'splain a me why the lyin' biased librul media always blames the dam joos first for any dust up within a hundred miles of the Mediterranean? For some of them it's a thousand miles if you count neocons as Jews.
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We could discuss some of what passes as 'objective truth' about the Green Helmet Guy.
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