Democrat Jack Murtha violated ethics rules on the floor of the House, right out in the open. This is what happened:
According to the draft resolution, Murtha shouted at Rogers on the House floor Thursday for offering a motion last week to expose $23 million Murtha requested in an intelligence bill.
Murtha had requested the money to prevent the administration from shuttering the National Drug Intelligence Center in Johnstown, Pa.. in Murtha's district."I hope you don't have any earmarks in the defense appropriations bills because they are gone, and you will not get any earmarks now and forever," Murtha told Rogers on the House floor, according to the draft transcript given Politico.
"This is not the way we do things here -- and is that supposed to make me afraid of you?" Rogers replied.
"That's the way I do it," Murtha said.
Members are not allowed to threaten earmarks or tax provisions.
Murtha threatened another Republican congressman just last week for voting for Rogers' motion:
This shouting match follows a similar outburst Murtha directed at Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) last week.
Murtha yelled at Tiahrt on the House floor for voting in favor of Rogers's motion last week, members and aides familiar with the incident said.The controversy stems from a disagreement between Murtha and the administration about closing the National Drug Intelligence Center, an intelligence gathering facility supervised by the Drug Enforcement Agency.
President Bush's budget slashed $23 million from the budget to force the agency to close the office, which has received repeated low marks from several federal review boards.
Is it a surprise that Congress' approval rating is lower than Bush's? Murtha seems to think that Democrats having control of Congress means he can break any ethics rule he wants to get what he wants.
Iowa Voice is commenting as well.
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They are coming apart at th... (Below threshold)1. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 10:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They are coming apart at the seams. Or unravelling. Or ravelling. Sic semper tyrannis. I'm sure Saddam raged in his rathole.
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1. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 10:06 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:06
2. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 10:16 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Murtha's perfectly happy to waste money in an absurd War on Drugs, but this is the guy who isn't going to fight the War on Terror.
Maybe he thinks the Islamists hate us because we use so many drugs. Hey, maybe he's on to something there. I'd like to see him follow that thought train down the tracks.
A train's been by here, do you know how I can tell? I can see its tracks.
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2. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 10:16 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:16
3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 10:16 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Poor Mr. Rogers got his feelings hurt. What a baby.
3. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 10:16 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:16
4. Posted by BillyBob | May 18, 2007 10:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's the matter Barney? Did you get stood up by Jim McGreevey last night?
Murtha's a kook and is on his way out.
4. Posted by BillyBob | May 18, 2007 10:20 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:20
5. Posted by jhow66 | May 18, 2007 10:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey barne' it's PrepH time for you to remove BB's foot. LOL
Muthra is nothing more than a fatfaced traitorus piece of crap. Poor little jackie didn't get his way so he going to take his ball and go home. Looks like the "swamp" is filling up instead of draining. he he
5. Posted by jhow66 | May 18, 2007 10:27 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:27
6. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 10:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey elections have consequences. How's the view looking up at the boot heal?
6. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 10:33 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:33
7. Posted by MikeSC | May 18, 2007 10:34 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Shocking. Leftists support this.
Corruption isn't corruption when you do it, right libs?
-=Mike
7. Posted by MikeSC | May 18, 2007 10:34 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:34
8. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You'd think the goons from the right would appreciate that kind of hardball politics. After all you worshiped at the altar of the founder, Terminex Tom "The Bug" Delay.
8. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 10:36 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:36
9. Posted by cirby | May 18, 2007 10:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey elections have consequences.
Yes, and the consequence is that all of those Democrats who voted for those Democratic politicians are now getting exactly what they deserve.
How's that "100 hours" thing coming, Barn?
"100 days?"
"100 weeks?"
9. Posted by cirby | May 18, 2007 10:45 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:45
10. Posted by Scrapiron | May 18, 2007 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Now you know why a democrat came up with the 'one sheet' toilet paper solution. People like Barney/JFO are around to lick them clean.
Anyone commenting on the 'lawsuit' against DNC/Howling howie? Sexual discrimination against a fellow democrat closet dweller. Can't be true since they support gays, na, they claim to support gays to get a vote is the truth. LMAO
The election comedy continues. So far Peeeeloshi's record of bills passed is '0' if you don't count the bills patting other left wingers on the back. It's a pity we pay so much for total lack of leadership in the house and senate these days. What happened to the 'first 100 days promise'? Guess we'll find out when we find Hoffa, must be buried in the same place.
10. Posted by Scrapiron | May 18, 2007 10:57 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:57
11. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 10:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
cirby
If you did more than read right wing blogs, listen to right wing radio and watch Fox News you might actually know something about the 100 hours "thing".
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-19-first-hours_x.htm?csp=34
11. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 10:58 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 10:58
12. Posted by _Mike_ | May 18, 2007 11:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey elections have consequences.
Yeah, that's what the voters are realizing. And it's been reflected in COngress' dropping approval rating.
12. Posted by _Mike_ | May 18, 2007 11:00 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 11:00
13. Posted by Oyster | May 18, 2007 11:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Harball politics, eh JFO? I haven't closely followed the Delay case so all I'll say is if he did something illegal, throw his ass in the slammer. Would that Democrats felt the same way about their "leaders". But no, all we get is "Well your guys did it!"
Murtha acted in a fashion unbecoming to a Congressman and it's not the first time, nor the second. This particular post IS about Murtha, isn't it?
13. Posted by Oyster | May 18, 2007 11:05 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 11:05
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 11:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How's that "100 hours" thing coming, Barn? cirby
Why don't you look it up? I seem to recall the House passed all the goals they set in fewer than 100-hours.
14. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 18, 2007 11:12 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 11:12
15. Posted by CalabasasWinger | May 18, 2007 11:13 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Gee, another hand slap for a Congressional Blowhard. Doesn't really matter which side of the aisle the guy is on, they laugh it up together once the doors are closed. Check out the photos of the "Bi-partisan" Immigration Bill afterparty and you see the hard nosed Repubs guffawing with the Kennedys and Reids and Spectors. Its a Good Ol' Boys Club and if you don't have millions, you are not represented.
Murtha getting a demerit is such a huge deal... NOT.
15. Posted by CalabasasWinger | May 18, 2007 11:13 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 11:13
16. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 11:39 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Elections have consequences and won of the consequences of Rahm's winning strategy is that Blue Dog Democrats aren't going to vote like Ned Lapont or whatever is name was would have done.
Heh, heh. Fifty years from now as many people will think it was spelled that way as will think it was spelled correctly.
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16. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 11:39 AM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 11:39
17. Posted by Allen | May 18, 2007 12:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hell, I feel sorry for Murtha, as he was following the Cheney line, you know, when the VP told a senator to"get fucked". (pardon the language) just quoting the VP. At least Murtha didn't use that kind of language, did he?
17. Posted by Allen | May 18, 2007 12:48 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 12:48
18. Posted by Wayne | May 18, 2007 1:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yes, elections do have consequences. Unfortunately we are going have to pay for the last one. The next election will show if the general public truly support the democrats' ideals or if they were only after change.
18. Posted by Wayne | May 18, 2007 1:21 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:21
19. Posted by SShiell | May 18, 2007 1:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Murtha = Semper 1
'Nuff said!
19. Posted by SShiell | May 18, 2007 1:27 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:27
20. Posted by Oyster | May 18, 2007 1:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Allen, this is twice now in five minutes that I've heard you use the "well, they do it too," argument.
Cheney told someone to get fucked once. Ooooh. You want to hold him responsible for that with nary a word for Murtha's outburst, threatening and shouting down a Congressman on the house floor, against House rules.
In another thread you imply that the "puggies" needed to clean house (completely ignoring that corruption does not recognize party lines) with nary a word for the kleptocracy that is the World Bank and the UN.
A little one-sided, aren't we?
20. Posted by Oyster | May 18, 2007 1:28 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:28
21. Posted by mantis | May 18, 2007 1:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Politico again? I think I'll wait for confirmation.
Did they run out of haircut material?
21. Posted by mantis | May 18, 2007 1:29 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:29
22. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 1:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You only get half a point for that half assed ad hom, mantis. A bowl cut, so to speak.
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22. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 1:43 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:43
23. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 1:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oyster
It's a post about folks whining about Murtha, isn't it?
23. Posted by JFO | May 18, 2007 1:44 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 13:44
24. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, allen, 'Go fuck yourself' is a lot more benign than 'You'll never get another earmark'. And a whole lot less corrupt, too.
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24. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:07 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:07
25. Posted by Gayle Miller | May 18, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Golly, the tone of these comments is so - puerile is the only word that comes to mind.
FACT - the post was about MURTHA. You know who he is, right? He's the Congressman that lied about the Marine's actions in Haditha (Keep up folks - the marines were cleared). He's the divisive cretin who is part of the so-called "most ethical congress" in history - with pork drippings all over his trousers and his nose growing hourly due to the endless stream of lies emanating from his mouth - the one who has the GALL to threaten a fellow Congressman ON THE FLOOR OF the U. S. House of Representatives - not once but twice - with retaliatory actions if the other Congressman (a member of another political party, no less) doesn't fall in line and do precisely what Jack Murtha wants him to do - without question.
Playing that infantile "moral equivalence" game is not a worthwhile activity, folks. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing - whether committed by a Democrat or a Republican.
Jack Murtha is the problem, Jack Murtha is the topic. Only someone with no or weak arguments in favor of Jack Murtha tries to change the subject from Jack Murtha to other people who may be facing ethics charges.
Jack Moore is despicable, demented, nasty and - given the place and volume involved in his two egregious violations of House Rules - probably well over the line into senility.
25. Posted by Gayle Miller | May 18, 2007 2:16 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:16
26. Posted by Gayle Miller | May 18, 2007 2:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jack Moore is probably a nice fellow - I mistyped MURTHA!
26. Posted by Gayle Miller | May 18, 2007 2:18 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:18
27. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Gayle, you forgot about the tape of him taking money. Shellshocking, that one. Irey'll get 'im next time. He's a mess.
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27. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:22 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:22
28. Posted by mantis | May 18, 2007 2:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
you know who he is, right? He's the Congressman that lied about the Marine's actions in Haditha (Keep up folks - the marines were cleared).
Gayle, the marines were cleared? Since when? As far as I've read, some of those involved have been given immunity to testify (not the same thing as being cleared), four have been charged with murder and four officers with dereliction, and Article 32 hearings just began in at least one case last week. Do you have some information the rest of us aren't privy to?
28. Posted by mantis | May 18, 2007 2:44 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:44
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | May 18, 2007 2:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Examine the rules and review Murtha's behavior. Even the most loyal of dimocrats should recognize a violation of the established rules. Exceptions to be made for the likes of BarneyG and his ilk, as they refuse truth in any form.
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | May 18, 2007 2:55 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:55
30. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This will be an interesting case. Murtha pretty clearly exceeded the rules of engagement.
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30. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 2:56 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 14:56
31. Posted by Mike | May 18, 2007 3:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This was all about earmarks?
Funny, I thought the Democrats promised to severely limit earmarks and other pork incentives that seem to lead to corruption.
31. Posted by Mike | May 18, 2007 3:01 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 15:01
32. Posted by cirby | May 18, 2007 3:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
For those of you who think the 100 hour thing worked out, it didn't.
They promised a lot, and passed bills that did a LITTLE of what they promised.
First off, the primary promise (and the first one Pelosi made): "Day One: Put new rules in place to 'break the link between lobbyists and legislation.'" This did not happen. At all. As a matter of fact, they made things worse. One of the main things they promised was to end earmarking. As events this week show, they seem to have forgotten that one (see the post at the top of the page). This was supposed to take up only the first ten hours, and be done before anything else was even considered.
Then there's the rest, like saying they were going to implement the 9/11 Commission recommendations, but only doing a couple of things (the least useful ones). They did manage to raise the minimum wage, managed to approve a bill that will eventually decrease interest rates for college loans, passed a minor bill that was supposed to cut subsidies to oil companies (but didn't really accomplish what they said it did, and didn't touch about 98% of subsidies), didn't actually block the privatization of Social Security, completely blew their promise on no new deficit spending, and managed to approve "negotiating" with drug companies over the price of Medicare drugs (with no teeth in it).
Of course, most of the things they passed haven't even made it past the Senate, much less into law. But you knew they wouldn't.
32. Posted by cirby | May 18, 2007 3:11 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 15:11
33. Posted by Taltos | May 18, 2007 3:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Harball politics, eh JFO? I haven't closely followed the Delay case so all I'll say is if he did something illegal, throw his ass in the slammer.
They're currently trying to overturn the court ruling(for the 2nd time) that you can't indict Delay for commiting a crime that wasn't a cirme when he was supposed to have commited it.
I have no idea if there is anything to the money laundering charges but to put it nicely Ronnie Earle is a retard.
33. Posted by Taltos | May 18, 2007 3:17 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 15:17
34. Posted by marc | May 18, 2007 3:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Poor Mr. barneyGRUBBLE got his feelings hurt. What a baby.
"We did what we promised we would do," Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Friday, "This is just the beginning. ... I'm very proud of what our Congress has done." (In ref the the first 100 hours)
It's already been outlined the tripe that passed for legislation in that first 100 hours.
As for the 100 days, they passed even less important tripe.
Murtha is history and i suspect as the election gets closer those closest to him will suffer at the ballot box.
34. Posted by marc | May 18, 2007 3:28 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 15:28
35. Posted by Brian | May 18, 2007 4:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Of course, most of the things they passed haven't even made it past the Senate, much less into law. But you knew they wouldn't.
Except for raising the minimum wage, which made it to Bush's desk, and he vetoed. But you knew he would.
35. Posted by Brian | May 18, 2007 4:10 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 16:10
36. Posted by Brian | May 18, 2007 4:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, allen, 'Go fuck yourself' is a lot more benign than 'You'll never get another earmark'. And a whole lot less corrupt, too.
Where does "change your vote or I'll make sure your son never gets elected" fall on your measuring scale?
36. Posted by Brian | May 18, 2007 4:12 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 16:12
37. Posted by Mitchell | May 18, 2007 4:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Dims passed nothing of significance in the last "hour hours" or whatever you want to call it.
Nothing.
It's all fluff, like John Edwards hair.
37. Posted by Mitchell | May 18, 2007 4:19 PM |
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Posted on May 18, 2007 16:19
38. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 4:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Brian, you don't seriously contend what I say, do you?
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38. Posted by kim | May 18, 2007 4:25 PM |
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