"...a Marxist/Islamic state in Iran headed by the tyrannical Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini."

Marxist/Islamic??? That's dumber than "Islamo-facsism".

Whatever it takes to fit Step-sister's fat foot in Cinderella's slipper.

PS: If the Bush-Kennedy bill passes the House, G W Bush will be the worst president ever. And that's saying something. LBJ, BJC, JEC, HST...

Well, for once you may be right. After all you're an expert at dumb!

Kim.
You forgot to mention our (snicker)lower interest rates when the "peanut man" was President.

Best thing to happen under peanut head was Herb Brooks and company winning Olympic gold in Lake Placid.

A shame this hateful ugly man from GA couldnt do anything on his own to lift the spirits and patriotism of our country. He is still as miserable now as the nation was when he was President.

bD wants to remind you they hold elections in Iran.
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Chastising an American President(Carter) for pushing human rights, freedom and democracy prematurely in the Middle-East without a coherent policy as to the unintended consequences of such policy- the rise of a militant Islamic movement, seems a trifle rich, coming as it is from supporters of Bush's plan to make Iraq 'a beacon of democracy' for the same region.

SC, quite disingenuous. Carter, foolishly, believed that any opposition to a tyrant must be sweetness and light personified. He was an idiot.

Sistani will bring Iraq out of these in much better shape than did Khomeini Iran.
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John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were 'premature' according to a lot of their contemporaries.

What a fossil you are.
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Kim:

Carter calls Bush "the worst president in history".

Carter: (from the link)

Bush administration is the "worst in history in international relations"

Maybe it's just me, but those are by no means equivalent statements. When you begin a post with this type of intellectual chicanery it can only go downhill from there. I think every president from Carter on shares some of the responsibility for the current situation; Bush just decided to throw some high octane jet fuel on it.

Bush Paranoia Syndrome (BPS):

The inability to consider any criticism of or disagreement with the current president, with or without psychotic features. Sufferers often become intellectually dishonest, delusional and verbally abusive in their attempts to either shoot the messenger or deny reality. No successful treatment known.

I was a GM of one of our Olympic teams and lived with many athletes at a national training center I ran for the team.

The average American does not see or think about these Olympians except for a few weeks every four years, but believe me there is a lot going on.

One cannot understand "going for it" until you know about the 5 hour a day practice, every day including the weekend, for ten to fifteen years.

During this period, athletes give up most of their social life and families remortgage houses to pay for training, travel, etc.

So when Carter withdrew our Olympic team from the 1980 summer games, thousands of athletes were robbed of their chance and most only get one chance, if that.

And for what? This was Carter's sole response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and it had no effect whatsoever.

It was Carter's sole response to anything - the hostage crisis was an absolute disaster - and the Soviets were allowed a free run in Afria, South America, the Middle East and elsewhere.

Carter's only act was to hurt his own Olympic team and his foreign policy was beyond feeble.

Of course, Carter's wrecking of the US economy is well documented with double digit unemployment, interest rates and inflation.

Bush was re-elected while Carter lost 46 States in his re-election bid because he had become such a joke.

Bush: strong economic turnabout and stable growth, strong foreign policy. Carter: feeble, feeble, feeble and out.

Ha, bD, you gotta see Fred's response about the Montechristo's. He intends to see that they are destroyed over the next few months.

I'm too busy defending Bush, g, to criticize him, but I've a quiverful of those, too. I used to despise him, the No Good, Son of a Ritch, but there is no Christian like a convert.
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George W. Bush is in a category of "Bad Presidents" all by himself.

History will be kind to Bush, AB. You never had it so good, nor may again.
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As to the Update 11, Kim Priestap is on safer ground. I had no idea Carter was such a shocking and one-sided historian. Canada had its Upper and Lower Canada Rebellions, that helped obtain a degree of self-rule in 1837-8, and Austraila the Eureka rebellion in 1854.
Even after the Revolutionary War, Britain fought very hard to control their colonies, and I'm not even going to talk about the Irish War for their Independence from Britain, in the 20th century.

Its easy to want to reflexively disagree with Carter.

I'd have to agree that Bush is a poor President. For quite different reasons than Carter would give. For one, his inability and unwillingness to Communicate has let Democrats and the Left run roughshod over Domestic support for the War in Iraq and the War on Terror.

But Bad Presidents require Bad Policies. And ironically Bush's bad policies are the ones he has in common with Carter. Things like immigration and social spending.

Sadly, the more I think about it, take away the War on Terror and some tax relief, and Bush is the closest President we've had to Jhimmi.

Jimmy Carter running around describing any president as the 'worst in history' is a lot like the Detroit Lions running around describing other NFL teams the 'worst in history'. He continues to hold a breathtakingly delusional high opinion of himself.

This is like the fattest person in town coming up to you and saying, "hey, you have a weight problem."

Pot meet Kettle; Jesus Christ.

Newsweek ought to do a hit piece on how Pres. Carter has lost touch with reality. Or was it Time? same-o, same-o

I wish you Repubbies would make up your mind. Giuliani tells us that there's nothing we've done to make the Islamists hate us and want to kill us. We're told by the Repubbies that they hate us because we're free and right and just, and the Repubbies stand up and cheer.

Now we hear its is indeed a case where U.S. foreign policy is at fault -- but it's Jimmmmmy Cahhhter's fault. Which is it?

Spin, lie, fold repeat. It's really obvious that you guys are having trouble keeping track of your lies.

America is noticing....

Old Jimmah Cahtah suffers from the same malady as the Penis Prez... a severe case of 'name in press' withdrawal.

Jimmah Cahtah thinks that we who lived through his sweater calls and gas lines have forgotten.

Jimmah Cahtah thinks his mediocre books have shortened our memory of his term in office.

Jimmah Cahtah is wrong... again.

I guess there is truth to the adage that only the good die young... he'll be embarassing himself and OUR contry for a good long time.

http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=15367

From Breitbart:

Former US president Jimmy Carter on Saturday attacked outgoing Prime Minister Tony Blair for his "blind" support of the Iraq war, describing it as a "major tragedy for the world".

In an interview with BBC radio, Carter was asked how he would describe Blair's attitude to US President George W. Bush. He replied: "Abominable. Loyal, blind, apparently subservient.

"I think that the almost undeviating support by Great Britain for the ill-advised policies of President Bush in Iraq have been a major tragedy for the world."

Astonishing. A former president of our country criticizing one of our allies for supporting us in a war that were are currently fighting. What a despicable human being.

Back where you belong "Lee Ward" (as in insane) aka "pucker puss" (lee lee) (RTP) (RM). Ever notice that 'p'p has this hangup on the word "lies"? Rep lies, Bush lies, etc. By the way 'p'p to we have to use capital letters when we address you as "lee ward"?

If President Bush signs the bill that has the USA surrendering to 20MM foreign invaders while our troops are fighting and dieing in foreign lands, then he may very well be the worst American President in history. He will end with an approval rating of less than 20, maybe even 10. History in this case will not be kind to him and neither should we.

How's that line go about getting called ugly by a toad?

I think he just wants to try to pass the mantle of "worst, president, ever!" on to someone else. This is his best chance since bush's approval ratings and how many libs will agree with him on the matter makes it gospel in the lib crowd. Not to mention this is really his first chance to try to do this since his failed presidency. It might not hurt to throw a little bit of senile into the mix.

I would say just by the way carter throws himself into the political mix and starts with all the name calling, he's the one that continues to taint the office of the president. Bill Clinton is already stepping down that road. You don't see any former republican presidents making the snide remarks (on american soil OR over seas) that former democrat presidents make.

Carter and Clinton have made the office of the President into a joke on their parts. They are two of the most classless human beings to ever take on that role.

Class is when Bush unveiled the portrait of Bill Clinton and had nothing bad to say despite the Clintons obvious dislike of him.
Class is when Bush on a routine basis takes it on the chin and ignores the Bush=Hitler and the other comments the Jimmy Carter's of the world are saying.
Class is refusing to jump into the fray with these imbeciles and let them make themselves look like idiots.

Unfortunately for Bush, having class also makes him appear not to fight back and to be on the defensive about everything. Bush might not make all the best political calculations, but the one thing he will always have over the libs is class.

I'm not a particular fan of either the Bush or Carter presidencies, but if we're going to talk "worst president ever," we might want to peek at some of the winners that showed up in the 19th century ... Millard Fillmore. James Buchanan. And so forth.

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Kim, a fine example of CDS.

"when it's Carter himself who is responsible for the Islamofascism that is now wreaking havoc on the free world today when he and his administration participated in the overthrow of the Shah of Iran. "

What an infantile historical analysis!

You ought to look just a little further back from the narrow scope of history that you elect to use to blame the downfall of the Shah on Carter. That began w/ the US CIA bcked deposition of a Iran's only democratically elected democratically government in the 50's and then subsequently installed the Shah, who, along with Savak, instituted an incredibly brutal reign. So much for Republican concern about democracy or concern for Iranians not having to live under a terrorist regime..

Your attempt to lay the blame for "who lost Iran" is about as stupid and untutored as the Republican crap of the late 40's and throughout the 50's of "who lost China?"

A significant amount of our latter 20th century foreign affairs difficulties arose because the US had no respect for the legitinmacy of governments duly chosen by their people. Rather, we saw fit to intervene because "the ends justified the means."

Historians will be kinder to Jimmy Carter than you conservatives are. After all, he won the Nobel Peace Prize largely for what he did in bringing lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. 12 million jobs were added to the economy during his reign of four years; Bush isn't going to get anywhere near that amount after eight. Robert the Original declares that the unemployment rate hit double digits under Carter; this isn't true, but it is true for about nine months or so of the Reagan presidency. Jimmy Carter got the hostages out alive; had Reagan been left in charge of doing this, they would have been murdered, and a couple hundred thousand Iranians would have been given "martyrdom." Unless of course Reagan instead would have decided to trade arms for hostages, and then lie to the American people about it (as he was to do anyway, in a different situation). Any federal deficit Carter accrued was dwarfed by what Reagan, and the Bushes (Sr. and Jr.) came up with. You conservatives do realize that you pay interest on the federal deficit, don't you? Not a single American soldier lost his life in war during Carter's presidency; contrast that with The Chimp.
Jimmy Carter was essentially the first "green" president, he tried to save both energy and taxpayer money on White House electricity usage (I believe by installing solar panels, which were torn down by Reagan, who didn't give a damn).

Who in their right mind could preside over a Federal Bureaucracy and Budget such as this...

Dear God...Herman can still post? Isn't there some sort of literacy (historical or otherwise) standard this site can insist upon? Maybe Herman was living in Georgia (the Soviet Georgia, not the State Carter disgraced) during those years. He writes like a Pravda drop out,

"bD wants to remind you they hold elections in Iran." kim

Bwahahahahahahaha

They once did have a democratic election before Republicans got their hands on the results.

Aftermath claimed in regard to the Carter Presidency by Robert the original....

"- the hostage crisis was an absolute disaster -[they all got out of Iran alive] and the Soviets were allowed a free run in Afria, South America, the Middle East and elsewhere."

Of course,Robert, and that's why all these areas are now, and have been, under the heel of the Soviet boot ever since the Carter presidency..

Another Wizcompoop passes World History w/ honors.

It's easy to play connect the dots in reverse to support whatever conclusion suits your particular political needs. In the late 70s no one was screaming about Islamofascism, jihad or how the Muslims hate us for our freedom and are sworn to kill us all. The Middle Eastern countries formed OPEC and realized that, because of our blind unquenchable thirst for the bubblin' crude, they had us over a barrel, literally. So Carter says look folks, the smartest thing we can do is to conserve and develop new sources of energy so we are no longer at their mercy and he's laughed out of office, replaced by an actor who smiled and waved the through the wholesale sellout of American foreign policy to corporate interests. Perhaps if we had followed that course Iraqis, Saudis, Iranians, etc. would today be fighting their medieval holy wars among themselves, drowning in their oil, and America would still be the powerful and respected nation it used to be. Instead we send our brave citizens to die in the middle of a civil war largely because over the last two decades we HAVE pissed many of them off to the point where they actually do want to kill us and we are as dependent as we have ever been on their oil. Yes, we've truly made great strides in international relations under Bush. No doubt about it, we are much stronger and safer and the world is a much more stable place than it was when Carter was president.

It's too soon for any big picture assessment of either president, but when those doing the judging aren't blinded by political rage and in such desperate need of any and all scapegoats to deflect blame away from the shortcomings of the current pres, I think history will be much kinder to the peanut farmer/nuclear engineer than the incurious recovering substance abuser currently hiding in his cabin on the ship of state.