This is what should be done w/ the EIB Network.

Chavez is also shutting down Radio Caracas TV, because they're opposed to his government.

Oh jezz, I should have read the link first :)

Gosh, if you listen to the left in this country Bush has done that very thing to quash criticism. Or taken away phantom rights.

And why the EIB network? Don't like Rush? Don't listen.

Who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. Chavez imported a million Kalishnikovs to Venezuela. His customs inspectors missed the one with his name on it.
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go figure.

In Caracas, many people live in small huts made from cast-off building materials - with little or no education - who nonetheless understand Chavez for what he has become: a Stalinist dictator who is slowly killing the economic infrastructure. He is driving business and professional talent out of the country with the efficiency of the Khmer Rouge.

Meanwhile, back in the good old USA, there are many rich liberals, trained in the finest liberal US Universities, who glorify the guy and fight each other for position in the latest Chavez photo op. They have done the same with Castro for years.

So, with Carter, Moore, Sheehan, Glover, Bellefonte', Kennedy Jr., Soros and others - we got a 1927 Yankees lineup of nutjobs to which the rest of the world can only aspire.

The wacko World Series is ours.

This is what should be done w/ the EIB Network

A few days ago I wondered whether you were conservative posting the most extreme lefty points of view just to get a rise in the comment section.

Then I was thinking, well...the lefty blog sites don't allow dissenting views so there is some consistency here in "one view only" department.

And of course when the "Air America" experiment failed what else is there for lefties to do but hope for an armed uprising against those that will not get in lockstep in the left wing goose-step parade.

Right now I believe you are a true lefty and I also believe someone convinced you that you were smart for regurgitating the party line. But unbeknownst to you, instead of being clever and convincing you make it so no one needs a counter point other than.........

"See, I told you so"

Yeah, Wieder is a schmuck. He is smart and capable of thinking. I'm checking to see if he is persuadable. He's a project, but he's been so easy; I hope to make it a little more interesting with this.

Almost three years ago I was shocked at how effectively I was able to find stuff on the Internet and argue effectively with a leftist who'd spent years in Venezuela. He really didn't have a good response to the court packing over the election results, and I'd never heard about it until twenty minutes before.

Sic semper tyrannis. It is no surprise that the left so readily embraces tyrants. They'll take up with old lovers on the thinnest excuse, and now it's the threat to world conflict that mercantilism represents.
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You see, the smart ones, capable of thinking, know when they are being sophistic, and must understand, on some level, the intellectual self-betrayal necessary for them to carry on. This is demoralizing, the opposite of the effect on 'the happy few'.

It's why bD is maudlin when he is, and mantis sullen, when he is.

Love ya'. Keep up the good work.
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Pussies like Wieder don't like disagreement to their socialist queer way of life. He probably has a government program that pays for his computer and internet access.

Wieder, your street corner is still available. Get your sign and get back to panhandling you pathetic miserable loser.

Air America failed because it couldn't compete economically. EIB gets paid by the stations that rebroadcast it because it can draw some serious ad revenue, Air America had to pay to get on the air because it couldn't support itself through ads.

I'm sorry - seems like the market spoke and the people (those sorry, uneducated, mind-controlled bastards) said "This isn't funny, this isn't entertaining, this isn't thought-provoking, and I don't see a reason to listen to it" and turned to something else. There's a few people who get their feelings reinforced by it, but it's a fair bet that when you're bouncing off the bottom in the ratings that you're doing something way wrong.

Only in a dictatorship can the government determine what the 'people' will listen to, usually by making radios and TVs that only tune to state channels. Now Chavez has shown his true colors - he's about as much for the people of Venezuela as lil' Kim is for the people of North Korea, and we all know how well THOSE people are doing...

Isnt this is what the USSR are did to put down the HUGARIAN REVOLTION and what CHINA did at TENIMEN SQUARE

Am I the only one stunned --- STUNNED, I tell ya --- that CNN is not covering this?

I guess when it can be blamed on Bush they might begin to care.
-=Mike
...Chavez even threatened to silence CNN Espanol for 72 hours...

Wieder, come out of that corner, doff the conehead cover, and give us your little report on the First Amendment. When you've finished, go back and try to figure out why you need a Second Amendment to ensure the First.
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"It is no surprise that the left so readily embraces tyrants. They'll take up with old lovers on the thinnest excuse"

Oh, such as Ike's CIA's installation of the Shah in place of Iranian democracy or Reagan's assisstance to Saddam to stick it in the eye of Iran, or the Nixon backed coup against Allende to install Pinochet? Then there is the glorious US backing of Marcos, not to mention Reagan's empathy for poor little Somoza...just for starters.

Oh, such as Ike's CIA's installation of the Shah in place of Iranian democracy

A Prime Minister committing a massive act of theft by "nationalizing" industry paid for by others? Gee, no problem with that.

Reagan's assisstance to Saddam to stick it in the eye of Iran

FDR supported Stalin against Hitler. Shockingly, sometimes you have to support the lesser of two evils.

Nixon backed coup against Allende to install Pinochet?

Pinochet who revamped the economy and led to democracy? So evil.

Then there is the glorious US backing of Marcos, not to mention Reagan's empathy for poor little Somoza...just for starters.

The Democrats fervently supported the Soviets. Leftists supported the Viet Cong and Khmer Rouge.

Do you REALLY want to play this game?

Heck, the left has no problem with Chavez silencing the only opposition to him left in the country. Of course, they'd applaud a Democrat doing the same to Fox News.
-=Mike

I wonder why the left doesn't call for a revolution against such repression. I mean, if Bush had done the same thing they would take to the streets (and rightfully so). If the Venezuelan people were armed like the US citizenry, Chavez' would find it a much more difficult proposition.

I guess when it is a pet leftist dictator, the western left will let their actions slide. Really, if we had political prisoners here in America like they do in China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Iran...etc, we would have heard about it long ago.

"Do you REALLY want to play this game?"

Your skewed attempt to shift blame for cozy Republican relationships w/ dictators is simply revisionism. Your understanding of history is nil.

As to "A Prime Minister committing a massive act of theft by "nationalizing" industry paid for by others"

The "others," big oil, were skimming 85% of the Iranian oil proceeds of natural resources that should have belonged to Iran. This attitude is typical w/ Republicans who have historically thought that the economic rape of others' resources is justified for one reason or another.

Another example was the cozy relationship between the US & central American dictators on behalf of United Fruit.

FDR's alliance w/ Stalin was one of necessity to create a 2nd front against the mighty German military regime. He hardly engineered the installation of Stalin.

Your allegation that leftists supported the Viet Cong & Khmer Rouge is lunatic fantasy.

So Pinochet, with all the "disappeared" should be granted exemption for economic revitalization? And disapproval of Allende justifies a US engineered coup against a democratically elected government? So much for democracy. People like you only use that word as a cudgel to justify whatever intervention you want for whatever self-centered reasons you have, usually economic.

People like you crap all over the concept of democracy and then moan about the world "hating our freedom."

MikeSC, your respect for "democratic" values isn't worth crap.

Please, Wieder, come back and play. Mikey and I love Memory Day.
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"I wonder why the left doesn't call for a revolution against such repression....I guess when it is a pet leftist dictator, the western left will let their actions slide"John F not Kerry

There's a simple answer for that. The left is generally not inclined to intervention into other nation's affairs.

Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit.

Weider, champion of the 3rd grade "social studies challenge" at Noam Chomsky Elementary School.

Son, you've come to a gun fight with a knife, and it shows.

The "others," big oil, were skimming 85% of the Iranian oil proceeds of natural resources that should have belonged to Iran.

The companies that PAID for the industry wanted the profits? Those jerks!!

This attitude is typical w/ Republicans who have historically thought that the economic rape of others' resources is justified for one reason or another.

And the left's love affair with coerced government theft is in full regalia here. Kudos be to you.

FDR's alliance w/ Stalin was one of necessity to create a 2nd front against the mighty German military regime. He hardly engineered the installation of Stalin.

Only engineered the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe for decades and gave the Soviets the capacity to try and dominate many parts of the world.

You really are doing quite poorly here.

Your allegation that leftists supported the Viet Cong & Khmer Rouge is lunatic fantasy.

Well, you've shown that history is hardly a strong suit of yours thus far.

So Pinochet, with all the "disappeared" should be granted exemption for economic revitalization?

Considering the types that the left has supported over the years --- yeah, he does. He's like Castro --- except he gave up power and didn't bankrupt his country.

And disapproval of Allende justifies a US engineered coup against a democratically elected government? So much for democracy. People like you only use that word as a cudgel to justify whatever intervention you want for whatever self-centered reasons you have, usually economic.

Gee, defaulting on loans AND stealing property of others? Why does the left so vigorously applaud criminals?

People like you crap all over the concept of democracy and then moan about the world "hating our freedom."

Let's see --- don't liberals rather consistently try to claim that elections they lose were due to "theft"?

There's a simple answer for that. The left is generally not inclined to intervention into other nation's affairs.

BWA HA HA HA!

Funny. What you lack in intellect or common sense you make up with unintentional humor.

Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit.

Find one who's said a negative word about it.
-=Mike
...noting that YOU haven't done so...

"Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit."

Posted by: Wieder

Actually, I just heard about it, and I'm willing to bet the MSM doesn't say anything about it, and your "left spokesman" hasn't had time to endorse it yet.

"you silly twit"

How am I supposed to respond to that? "I'm rubber, you're glue..."?

"Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit."

Posted by: Wieder

This is what should be done w/ the EIB Network.

Posted by umm: Wieder

Although you are far from prominent, I thought I would point this out.

If Jimmy Carter would have acted in the US interersts instead of his perception of Christian Unity, he would not have turned against the Shah of Iran which brought on the Ayetollahs and the hostage crisis and, well, the rest is history. Dimmers are so proud.

I do not fault any US president that takes our interests first and foremost in this world. All others do the same. It is the way the game is played.

Chavez is a thug loved by the left like Sheehan and Glover and Michael Moore and, well, fill in the blank. ww

Wieder, I do in fact think the dictator problem is bipartisan.

But to remove the cold war from the equation is to truly ignore history. It doesn't matter whether we wished to engage in the Great Game. What matters is if your existential enemy wishes to play.

Not that many of our own did not also wish to play.

The problem as I see it today is that the other great pole has been removed, but the machinery keeps playing the game. But now it's one half of US playing the other half.

The machinery of europe is also engaging, of course. Really, the elite of all those half assed liberty illusion systems.

This is one reason why I think securing the southern border is so very important. Both the left and right elites are running around creating havoc. Both are ignoring the will of the American People.

Border security forces BOTH sides to have at least a little more integrity.

Wieder: "Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit."

The politcal machinery of the left ignores this issue, including a corporate left. Unfortunately, I believe Fox is now playing the same game, after having built up some credit with half the country. Or perhaps, from your perspective, they have always been playing it. That's fine if that's your view.

The truth is the political philosophy of the elite of both sides point in the same direction, and it isn't a good.

What are we going to do about it?

Find one prominent spokesman from the left who is endorsing this latest Chavez move you silly twit. Posted by: Wieder at May 28, 2007 11:49 AM

Don't see the usual suspects condemning it either.

Let's see now. Protests in Venezuela with no one killed earns a Wizbang post. Protests in Afghanistan with 13 killed and 35 wounded does not.

13 dead in Afghanistan protest.

Thirteen people were killed and 35 wounded in Afghanistan today when police opened fire to break up a violent protest against a provincial governor.

What's news about Venezuela is that Venezuela never was anything close to Afghanistan. And to think of comparing them 10 years was laughable.

You see, Venezuela is deteriorating like Afghanistan is improving. It's not where they are. It's where they are headed.

I wish folks like Wieder would tally up the death toll in the socialist wonderlands of the 20th century.

However, it would be dangerous for them to do that. If they did the cognitivie dissonance caused by their moral equivalence arguments might cause their head to explode.

"Thirteen people were killed and 35 wounded in Afghanistan today when police opened fire to break up a violent protest against a provincial governor.

More than 1,000 people were protesting to demand the removal of Juma Khan Hamdard, governor of the northern province of Jowzjan, and were throwing stones at several government offices in Shiberghan, the provincial capital.

Witnesses said police fired to stop the protesters from raiding the offices.

A provincial government spokesman said the protesters were supporters of General Abdul Rashid Dostum, for years a powerful military commander in the north of Afghanistan.

A doctor at Shiberghan's main hospital said 13 were dead and 35 wounded. Four police were also wounded, but it was not clear how.

Provincial spokesman Rohullah Samun, confirmed the casualties but said they were caused by the protesters.

He said police fired into the air to disperse the protesters. He said the protesters had staged an "uprising against the provincial government" and wanted to bring down the government flag and install that of Gen Dostum's faction.

By midday, the protests came to an end and by then army troops were stationed in key government buildings to maintain order and help police.

Gen Dostum, an ethnic Uzbek and a former communist, has been involved in a series of coups and regime changes in nearly three decades of Afghanistan's conflict. He considered northern areas as his fiefdom, but his powers have been reduced to a large extent in recent years, though he still is officially a military aide to President Hamid Karzai."

That was the story that Larkin so dutifully linked, giving no context, nor reporting on the dispute as to who caused the casualties. Nice try, but not good enough.

"the left is not incline to intervene in other nations......"
"Wieder is a win-ne" thats because they and you are cowards.

The left is not inclined to intervene in other nations. I guess the Soviets were invited guests in eastern Europe. Weider you are both a liar and an idiot. Your Soviet based education has left you wanting.

"The left is not inclined to intervene in other nations."

Of course not. They wouldn't want anyone to take their asses out of power should they take total control either. Slick Willie's wandering prick Rotten's "Hilary Care" scam shattered their dictatatorship dreams. They had damn near had total control of the MSM and to a certain extent still do.

Hey Wieder, aren't you proud that the Communists in this Country allign themselves with Democrats? Or is their even any difference at this point?

Well Rob, it is like this. The lefties believe in cradle to grave governmental care. Paid for with tax dollars. Those that are not rich think the rest of us are stupid enough to allow them to control us. Hillary's book, it takes a village, is all about her belief in communism. Base word here is commune. They do not care that communism, socialism and the ilk have never been proven to work, they insist on foisting a failed system on us. Democrats must deny danger because they have a hideous record of dealing with it. They will sell this nation down the river if they remain in control. It may be necessary to have another civil war to rid this nation of the vermin that infest the bastions of liberalism.

Zelsdorf, I think you give too much credit.

The useful idiots of course think the system will work. The elite left do not, but don't care. They are sure they will be the ones at the top.

Please note that Chavez is now seeking to shut down Globovision, which is presently the closest thing to an opposition newscast there is left in Venezue