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A quote from the story abou... (Below threshold)1. Posted by langtry | May 29, 2007 11:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
A quote from the story about the revealing yearbook:
Of course, there's an inevitable component regarding the "outrage" of parents, the same clueless parents who prefer not to know what their kids are up to at 11:00 PM & later on a weekend (and week) night. I agree with Hannah: she did these parents a big favor, showing them what is glorified by their kids, and what behaviors their kids are engaging in. Where were the parents (and, to a lessor extent, the administrators) when these parties were going on, oftentimes in their own homes???
1. Posted by langtry | May 29, 2007 11:17 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:17
2. Posted by John F Not Kerry | May 29, 2007 11:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They should have let the veterans "educate" them about proper respect. Really, though, we shouldn't be surprised at this kind of behavior. Repulsed, yes, but not surprised. We have gotten to a place where publicity becomes more important than character, where notoriety leads to (perceived) immortality. I do hope that these boys can be turned around, or else they will go on to worse things, maybe even voting for democrats! :)
2. Posted by John F Not Kerry | May 29, 2007 11:19 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:19
3. Posted by Gianni | May 29, 2007 11:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The 2 Mass teens are cut from the same cloth as the trolls in here.
I say each Vet should have 5 minutes alone with each teen.
3. Posted by Gianni | May 29, 2007 11:36 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:36
4. Posted by Cousin Dave | May 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can't help but wonder what the parents of those 13-year-olds have taught them about war and the military.
4. Posted by Cousin Dave | May 29, 2007 11:44 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:44
5. Posted by Steve L. | May 29, 2007 11:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The money quote:
Because the alleged punks are juveniles, police did not release their names.
That's bad when the press labels you as a "punk."
5. Posted by Steve L. | May 29, 2007 11:50 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:50
6. Posted by jpm100 | May 29, 2007 11:59 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cousin Dave,
It's probably not the parents but the school. The parents are probably generally absent.
6. Posted by jpm100 | May 29, 2007 11:59 AM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 11:59
7. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 29, 2007 12:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can't help compare the Colorado yearbook with this one from AZ this year.
Drug use acceptable content, but belief in God... not so much.
7. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 29, 2007 12:10 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 12:10
8. Posted by TR19667 | May 29, 2007 12:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Daily Kos subscribers and future Democrat Senators........."
8. Posted by TR19667 | May 29, 2007 12:12 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 12:12
9. Posted by kat | May 29, 2007 12:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Future Ivy League students getting their training for abusing Conservative speakers.
Liberalism is a disease.
9. Posted by kat | May 29, 2007 12:15 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 12:15
10. Posted by Violence Worker | May 29, 2007 12:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Better -- Give them 10 minutes with their parents.
VW
10. Posted by Violence Worker | May 29, 2007 12:28 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 12:28
11. Posted by Who's John Galt? | May 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can't help but wonder what the parents of those 13-year-olds have taught them about war and the military.
One respects that which one is instructed to respect. Conversely, one disdains that which one is instructed to disdain. Instruction is relayed by commission or omission. It is a parent's responsibility to provide for such instruction. I'd like to allow the veterans 10 minutes with the parents.
11. Posted by Who's John Galt? | May 29, 2007 12:46 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 12:46
12. Posted by WildWillie | May 29, 2007 1:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The thirteens your olds were quoted as saying:"Our military has committed human atrocities reminicent of Ghegis Khan." Well, anyway, I wonder what the parents say around the table about the military in Iraq? ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | May 29, 2007 1:03 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 13:03
13. Posted by Mac Lorry | May 29, 2007 1:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't blame these 13 year-old boys, after all there are just 13 years-old and they know almost nothing other than what has been fed to them by the public school. You know, the same public schools that makes them watch Al Gore's film " A Convenient Delusion".
These kids and millions of kids like them are at the receiving end of the peace movement's propaganda machine. Even Cindy Sheehan had all she could take of the "peace movement" and resigned from it yesterday. In resigning Sheehan wrote that she is disillusioned by the failure of Democratic politicians to bring the unpopular war to an end and tired of a peace movement she said "often puts personal egos above peace and human life."
If it took a grown women two years of interactive involvement with the Democrats and the peace movement to discover the phoniness, how can we expect 13 year-old kids to know the truth? They probably thought they were making a statement for peace by egging those who have served in our military. If the police want to find out who's really responsible for this crime they should question the school teachers of these kids.
13. Posted by Mac Lorry | May 29, 2007 1:09 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 13:09
14. Posted by Jo | May 29, 2007 1:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is liberalism's real legacy. Aren't you looking forward to the future as this generation grows up?
14. Posted by Jo | May 29, 2007 1:20 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 13:20
15. Posted by Jason | May 29, 2007 1:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Because the alleged punks are juveniles, police did not release their names.
lol! That made my day.
15. Posted by Jason | May 29, 2007 1:21 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 13:21
16. Posted by Who's John Galt? | May 29, 2007 2:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
they should question the school teachers of these kids.
I understand what you're saying, Mac, but I still say that it goes back to the parents. We either teach or allow the teaching. We should be talking to our kids...and their teachers. That is where it is breaking down.
16. Posted by Who's John Galt? | May 29, 2007 2:44 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 14:44
17. Posted by Peter F. | May 29, 2007 3:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That pales, however, to two 13-year-old boys from Rockland, Massachusetts. They thought that the best way to commemorate Memorial Day was to attend the parade and see the veterans in their uniforms.
And egg them.
Oh, but even that pales to top that here in WA state. Maybe some impish youths decided it would be a hoot to desecrate the flags on veterans' graves on Memorial Day and replacing them swastikas Not once, but twice.
17. Posted by Peter F. | May 29, 2007 3:00 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 15:00
18. Posted by Peter F. | May 29, 2007 3:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
er..."with swastikas"...
18. Posted by Peter F. | May 29, 2007 3:01 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 15:01
19. Posted by John F Not Kerry | May 29, 2007 3:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The thirteens your olds were quoted as saying:"Our military has committed human atrocities reminicent of Ghegis Khan."
Isn't that from John Kerry's 1971 testimony? They had to dig deep with that one.
19. Posted by John F Not Kerry | May 29, 2007 3:49 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 15:49
20. Posted by spurwing plover | May 29, 2007 4:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I suppose these same worthless jerks want to have that freak drug song AGE OF AQUARIUS as our new national anthem WORTHLESS LITTLE DOUCHIE BAGS I HOPE NOONE BUYS THEIR YEARBOOKS AT ALL
20. Posted by spurwing plover | May 29, 2007 4:08 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 16:08
21. Posted by nogo war | May 29, 2007 4:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
living here in Colorado...this got a lot of media...
let me say a few few things...
Few kids going to this H.S. come from families whose income is less than $100,000 a year..so their folks are out making the big bucks working long hours and compensating..buying them not only what they need but what they want...
Hey when I was in H.S. reefer was $10 an ounce..these kids are paying $400 an OZ...for hybrid..
Getting drunk in HS...none of us did that...
When we live in a nation that gives us news brought to us by pharmaceuticals..
What do we expect..
Damn right it is the parents...but hey what do I know ..I did not grow up in a rich family and neither did our kids...
21. Posted by nogo war | May 29, 2007 4:12 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 16:12
22. Posted by nogo war | May 29, 2007 4:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
As a point of demographics...this part of Jefferson County is heavily Republican and Fundie Christian..so please don't give me that liberal crap...
22. Posted by nogo war | May 29, 2007 4:14 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 16:14
23. Posted by engineer | May 29, 2007 4:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The thirteen year olds were quoted as saying:"Our military has committed human atrocities reminicent of Ghegis Khan."
I doubt they even know who Ghenis Khan is, much less the atrocities he committed.
23. Posted by engineer | May 29, 2007 4:37 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 16:37
24. Posted by Lee Ward | May 29, 2007 4:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"As a point of demographics...this part of Jefferson County is heavily Republican and Fundie Christian..so please don't give me that liberal crap..."
Yeah -- maybe so, but I bet the guy at the grocery store who sold the kids the eggs was a card-carrying Democrat!
or something...
24. Posted by Lee Ward | May 29, 2007 4:51 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 16:51
25. Posted by Mac Lorry | May 29, 2007 5:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I also understand what you're saying WJG, but it's downright impossible for parents to review everything teachers say in their classroom, much of which amounts to off hand remarks not discernable from any published syllabus. People talk about members of the MSM being mostly left leaning, but public school teachers are even more so. Some of these lefties view their mission in life as "educating" kids as to correct thinking rather than approved subjects.
War is a strange thing. It's horrible, tremendously expensive and most people want no part of it, yet it can be imposed at any time by any other group that can find a means to engage in it. That's the part lefties don't understand, that war can be imposed regardless of how badly other's what peace. The strangest part is that to have peace a nation must be openly prepared for war and willing to engage in war. That message is rejected by flower children who see it as obsolete thinking and they hope to end all war by educating kids to their way of thinking. The problem for them and all of us is that war flows from human nature and as long as humans have that nature there will be war. It's just a matter of which side of war you want to be on, those who are prepared to win or those who are not.
25. Posted by Mac Lorry | May 29, 2007 5:01 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 17:01
26. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 29, 2007 5:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee,
Nogo was refering to the kids in CO, with the reefer photos in the year book.
Peter F,
An American Legion Hall was hit in PA, again with swastikas. Popular theme, it would seem.
Nogo,
The comments about liberals/liberalism are directed at the egg tossing in Rockland, not the pot smoking in Conifer.
Engineer,
WildWillie is joking. The kids did not say that
26. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | May 29, 2007 5:59 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 17:59
27. Posted by wavemaker | May 29, 2007 6:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
As for the egg incident in Rockland, this is a highly dysfunctional, run down blue collar town south of Boston that has been having serial problems with elected officials being caught stealing, public fights between town leaders, crumbling roads and schools. The place is full of white trash. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that one of the teens was the son of a police officer. The towns around it are doing quite well, but for some odd reason, this place is an island of filth.
27. Posted by wavemaker | May 29, 2007 6:06 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 18:06
28. Posted by wavemaker | May 29, 2007 6:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Genghis Khan reference really is pretty stupid, innit.
The guy sounds pretty alright to me.
"After unifying the Mongols, Genghis Kahn went on the conquer all of China. He breached the Great Wall, laid waste to many cities along the way, and captured the capitol (Britannica, n.p.). However, instead of become a tyrannical dictator after capturing the country, Genghis Kahn let the Chinese live had they had, with no pressure to change their customs or persecution to their religion. He saw that it would be more profitable to force the people to pay a light tax then conquering their culture. Additionally, because he was fair in his taxation, the Chinese people were much less likely to revolt."
28. Posted by wavemaker | May 29, 2007 6:13 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 18:13
29. Posted by Gianni | May 29, 2007 6:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If Genghis was a proponent of 'light taxation', that explains why Hanoi John Kerry was so against him.
29. Posted by Gianni | May 29, 2007 6:28 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 18:28
30. Posted by jpm100 | May 29, 2007 7:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ultimately the kids' choice of behavior is more the fault of the Parents. But make no mistake, their choice of target probably came from their school.
The brainwashing implemented under the Clinton years (whether Clinton had a hand or not, idk) has be quite spectacular and effective.
When we got the environment and other crap force fed to us in the 70's you had to be nearly brain dead not to see past it if you cared.
But what's been going on for the past 15 years is way more effective than what they tried on the over 35 crowd.
30. Posted by jpm100 | May 29, 2007 7:46 PM |
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Posted on May 29, 2007 19:46
31. Posted by Chash Sladack | December 6, 2007 8:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It was just EGGS. Couldda been worse, like the spittle, urine and feces we threw at them when they came off the plane in 1969!
31. Posted by Chash Sladack | December 6, 2007 8:04 PM |
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Posted on December 6, 2007 20:04