Mary Katharine found the following Tony Blair story at Tim Blair's blog (with some help from her dad):
I was stopped by someone the other week who said it was not surprising there was so much terrorism in the world when we invaded their countries (meaning Afghanistan and Iraq). No wonder Muslims felt angry.
I said to him: tell me exactly what they feel angry about. We remove two utterly brutal and dictatorial regimes; we replace them with a UN-supervised democratic process.And the only reason it is difficult still is because other Muslims are using terrorism to try to destroy the fledgling democracy and, in doing so, are killing fellow Muslims.
Why aren't they angry about the people doing the killing? The odd thing about the conversation is I could tell it was the first time he'd heard this argument.
Just a few thoughts...
-- I realize I am beating a dead horse, but no wonder the man had never heard such a concept considering the state of the BBC and other international reporting on terrorism.
-- Tony Blair is incredibly eloquent and articulate, able to convey important truths in an easily understandable manner. I can't help but wonder how different opinion on the war on terror and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would have been if President Bush were even half as eloquent and if he used his bully pulpit to make the case on the reasons we have to continue the fight.
-- My final thought is how bogus the silly charges are that Blair was ever Bush's lapdog. The man not only had (and has) strong opinions of his own about the way to approach the threat of terrorism, but he has continually articulated them in detail, citing facts to back up and explain the reasoning he used every step of the way. The situation in his country with the rise of Islamic extremism is a frightening one and Blair's willingness to address and confront that reality is something that will be sorely missed. Those accusing him of being a lapdog fall into the same camp as those saying Bush invaded Iraq because he is an evil, oil-hungry Hitler clone. They are unable to debate the facts or to argue intelligently so instead they engage in the equivalent of name-calling exploiting emotions instead of employing tactics of serious debate.
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Reality really sucks for le... (Below threshold)1. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:23 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Reality really sucks for leftists.
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1. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:23 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 09:23
2. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How's that for eloquent?
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2. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:24 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 09:24
3. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ohmigod, is that Blair's Crafter review? I'm in love.
Five cylinders are sooooo smooooth.
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3. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 9:33 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 09:33
4. Posted by kathie | May 30, 2007 10:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Suppose that it was really Blair's Idea to invade Iraq?
4. Posted by kathie | May 30, 2007 10:19 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 10:19
5. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 30, 2007 11:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I can't help but wonder how different opinion on the war on terror and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would have been if President Bush were even half as eloquent and if he used his bully pulpit to make the case on the reasons we have to continue the fight." Lorie
It was Bush's brain and not his mouth that has produced the disaster that is Iraq.
Kim, see the filing by Fitz? About time you apologized?
5. Posted by BarneyG2000 | May 30, 2007 11:05 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 11:05
6. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 11:21 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fitz has thoroughly lost it. Did you see Senator Bond now wondering why Val Plame has three different stories about how and why her husband went to Africa?
Here's the deal. Bond says the CIA can't confirm her sworn story before Waxman's committee in March about someone else suggesting Joe's name. Bond just released her 2/02 memo suggesting her husband for the trip, which differs from her recent testimony, and both stories differ from what she told the SSCI in '04.
Trouble ahead, trouble behind.
Emmy Sloan you better watch your speed.
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6. Posted by kim | May 30, 2007 11:21 AM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 11:21
7. Posted by TR19667 | May 30, 2007 1:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah barney, again your superior intelect strikes right to the heart of the matter.....Bush's brain, not Islamic fundamentalists, are killing GIs and Iraqs daily. Damn straight. While we're at it we best apologize for them steering planes full of people into our buildings and fields. And don't forget those unfortunate beheadings.
7. Posted by TR19667 | May 30, 2007 1:20 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 13:20
8. Posted by jp2 | May 30, 2007 1:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I said to him: tell me exactly what they feel angry about. We remove two utterly brutal and dictatorial regimes; we replace them with a UN-supervised democratic process."
Oh, ignorance is bliss.
8. Posted by jp2 | May 30, 2007 1:26 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 13:26
9. Posted by MichaelC | May 30, 2007 3:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Oh, ignorance is bliss."
Posted by: jp2
Which explains this one's happiness
9. Posted by MichaelC | May 30, 2007 3:29 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 15:29
10. Posted by Synova | May 30, 2007 4:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I can kill you with my brain."
I have *so* got to watch those again.
10. Posted by Synova | May 30, 2007 4:46 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 16:46
11. Posted by Jp Rogers | May 30, 2007 6:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
http://www.ae911truth.org/
The case to continue to fight? Above is a link to the site: Architects and Engineers for 911 truth.
You dumbasses will undoubtedly argue that even THESE experts, don't know what they are talking about. Surely these experts would risk their reputations for some political axe to grind. Being the unscientific bunch Wizbangers are, you dumbasses certainly would never let the scientific discovery process alter your world perception. Its almost cult-like.
Its not a conspiracy theory dumbasses, its a criminal investigation.
The case to continue to fight in Iraq? There is no case, no WMDs, no threat, no nothing. Its just a cesspool, and it high time we got out.
I can't help but wonder how different opinion on the war on terror and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would have been if President Bush were even half as eloquent and if he used his bully pulpit to make the case on the reasons we have to continue the fight." Lorie
11. Posted by Jp Rogers | May 30, 2007 6:24 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 18:24
12. Posted by pigpaws | May 30, 2007 6:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey JP's mom,
He got out again.
12. Posted by pigpaws | May 30, 2007 6:42 PM |
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Posted on May 30, 2007 18:42
13. Posted by Darryl Bukovcan | May 31, 2007 8:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This posting of Tony Blairs words and the bloggers "few thoughts" has to be the most intelligent thing I have ever seen on the internet. I have one question though. What does the problems that Britain is facing with its seperate muslim culture in its country portend for the eventuality of the (illegal) immigration/amnesty bill if it is pass and signed by the President?
13. Posted by Darryl Bukovcan | May 31, 2007 8:52 AM |
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Posted on May 31, 2007 08:52
14. Posted by Jp Rogers | May 31, 2007 8:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thats funny. So I overestimated. You won't even touch it. Typical. I am trying to understand you disorder. When a doctor tells you something is wrong, what do you do?
When your lawyer tells you you have a problem, what do you do?
When your electrician tells you you have a serious problem with your wiring, what do you do?
When Architects and Engineers say there is a problem with the governments official story of the accounts of 911, what do you do?
You stick your heads up your butt, and hide.
You are the reason they get away with it.
Jp Rogers
Hey JP's mom,
He got out again.
Posted by: pigpaws at May 30, 2007 06:42 PM
14. Posted by Jp Rogers | May 31, 2007 8:39 PM |
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Posted on May 31, 2007 20:39