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Here an Eichmann, there an Eichmann...

Wow, talk about timing.

Right after it comes out that Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann got out of Europe on an International Red Cross passport, it comes out that Professor Ward "Little Eichmanns" Churchill is likely to get fired from his teaching job at the University of Colorado.

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving ass.


Comments (34)

They had a headache for two... (Below threshold)
kim:

They had a headache for two years.
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I don't expect they'll be r... (Below threshold)
Jeff Blogworthy:

I don't expect they'll be replacing the lying plagiarist scumbag with a patriot. They'll probably just find a new scumbag. Perhaps Lynn Stewart is available.

wow, that NPR story really ... (Below threshold)

wow, that NPR story really glossed over what he's accused of, as opposed to the long passages talking about his 'free speech' and how he's being persecuted for it. If you read that without knowing what he's really being accused of, academically, you'd be on his side defending him from the big bad conservative meanies out to get him fired just for 'speaking his mind about those horrible people that the terrorists rid us of'.

don't be such a dumb ass Fa... (Below threshold)
BillyBob:

don't be such a dumb ass Falze, the scum bag is being fired because he is a fraud. Look at how the libs try to take any conservative down for any minor infraction of whatever rule, but not for their conservative values.

Churchill is a lying sack of shit who also happens to be just a sack of shit, so he is getting fired for the lying sack of shit, not because he is a sack of shit.

The Eichmann story is the i... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

The Eichmann story is the interesting one.

The Vatican-CIA Ratline.

Combining the Papal Bull Unum Sanctum with the Vatican Concordat with Nazi Germany.

Basically, a mutual assistance pact.

Google Ustachi for the most naked example of Church-Reich collusion. AlQaeda could use lessons from the bushwacking Croatian monks who traded eyeballs for medals.

Couldn't have said it bette... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Couldn't have said it better B'B'.

If they do fire him, my que... (Below threshold)
Carl:

If they do fire him, my question is: what took them so long?

Falze wasn't defending Chur... (Below threshold)
Stormin:

Falze wasn't defending Churchill; he was saying based on the article, one would think that the reason for his being fired is his outspoken looniness, rather than his plagarism and academic fraud. The article spends more time discussing his conspiracy theories and his outrageous remarks than dealing with the truth as to why he is going to get shown the door.

That's mighty sweet of you ... (Below threshold)
SAHMmy:

That's mighty sweet of you Stormin, helping poor, ole, dumb BillyBob with his reading comprehension skills.

You're done with your good deed for the day:)

Two years ago Churchill was... (Below threshold)
TR19667:

Two years ago Churchill was considered a raving nutjob POS. Looking at him through today's lense he appears to be just another democrat.

Bon voyage, freedom ... (Below threshold)
tas:

Bon voyage, freedom of speech.

billybob strikes a blow for... (Below threshold)

billybob strikes a blow for the reading-comprehension-challenged. Nail on the head, stormin, nail on the head.

tas, freedom of speech does... (Below threshold)

tas, freedom of speech does not mean freedom to steal the work of others and pass it off as your own, which is merely one of the reasons he should lose his public job. I guess you don't mind having state school professors that do that teaching the next generation?

So Taz, you think freedom o... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

So Taz, you think freedom of speech extends to lying about your ethnic background to gain employment and while employed, stealing information published by others and publishing it yourself as yourown? I agree, Churchhill was free do do these things but he also must be willing to pay the price. That is just one of the things wrong with you lefties, you do not want to take responsiblity for your own acts. Grow the fuck up, boy.

Maybe he could replace Rosi... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Maybe he could replace Rosie on The View? With that long hair he looks like a female crazy witch monster.

Or just in time to run for president! As a democrat of course.

So many job opportunities await you when you're a liberal freak.

If a student attending this... (Below threshold)

If a student attending this particular university plagiarized the works of others and published them as his or her own and lied about his or her ethnicity to gain admission and/or grants/scholarships, what do you think would happen to that student? Why should Churchill be held to different standards? If anything, he should be held to higher standards because he is an example to the students he teaches.

Political nonsense aside, he deserves his ass handed to him on his way out the door.

ZR3,tas is not Taz... (Below threshold)
taz:

ZR3,

tas is not Taz.

tas is offensive to me and has a crappy boring website.

It's nice of you folk to lo... (Below threshold)
tas:

It's nice of you folk to look beyond your own prejudices, not shove words into my mouth, and not sling obscenities at me.

Oh, wait a second...

The foundations of an intelligent discussion just don't exist here, so I won't be checking this thread for anymore updates.

tas, counter to most libera... (Below threshold)
TR19667:

tas, counter to most liberal thought,

"say something stupid" = pay the price

cause and effect

The reason its taking so lo... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

The reason its taking so long to get rid of him is because, while a publicly funded school, its going before a board of his peers at the school.
Much like politicians, they tend to be loath to excoriate plagarism and lies about it.
Note to Joe Biden: We still remember your encounter with plagarism too.

Oh, that's funny. Tas post... (Below threshold)

Oh, that's funny. Tas posts "Bon voyage, freedom of speech." without any indication how this applies and then talks about foundations of intelligent discussion.

And then goes away... pouting.

Plagiarism is not got anything to do with freedom of speech. Anyone is free to be a jerk in public (though this also may get a person fired from their job) but they aren't free to steal other people's work.

Are Churchill's public statements responsible for focusing people's attention on him? Sure they are. Are they what might get him fired? No.

And some Jews worked for an... (Below threshold)
-S-:

And some Jews worked for and with the Nazis, bryanD.

Your anti-Christian nuttery continues, however, particularly as it can malign the Catholic Church.

But, (bryanD), Ward Churchi... (Below threshold)
-S-:

But, (bryanD), Ward Churchill is alive to.day and the Nazis were alive back.then. I doubt either of you (Ward Churchill, you) would know an actual Nazi if one sent you flowers.

Ward Churchill is (finally) being fired (smartly, in compliment to the University of Colorado) for academic dishonesty. Same basis upon which students are dismissed from enrollment from reputable universities. In Churchill's case, he appears to have lectured on in borrowed time.

"Are Churchill's public ... (Below threshold)

"Are Churchill's public statements responsible for focusing people's attention on him? Sure they are. Are they what might get him fired? No."

That's it in a nut shell. Let that be a lesson to the Ward Churchills of the world. If you want to continue enjoying the profits of plagiarism and academic fraud, don't draw attention to yourself by making outlandish public statements. Of course, as many clearly say here, you're free to say crazy things. Just don't get pissy when people start looking at you through a magnifying glass.

"And some Jews worked for a... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"And some Jews worked for and with the Nazis, bryanD.--S-"

Are you referring to the German Jewish Congress's attempts to pay ransom per boxcar-load of the condemned? Or what? The few community leaders (Rabbis, such as at Lodz) who reassured their followers that the Ghetto did not neccessarily mean death?


"I doubt either of you (Ward Churchill, you) would know an actual Nazi if one sent you flowers.--S-"

(Who cares about Ward Churchill?) The dirty secret is, Naziism is a Catholic offshoot that got out of control. The pampered clerics became afraid and found themselves abetting Naziisms goals (which Catholism's temporal goals allowed and justified: define "catholic"). It was basically a plot to reclaim Russia from the Orthodox "schismatics": see the "Secrets of Fatima". Released in 1942, backdated to 1919, to put a "holy patina" on the then successful Operation Barbarossa. Then everything turned to shit and the Vatican began backtracking. To cut their losses, the Nazi Holocaust kicked in to overdrive behind nazi lines (France, Poland, Italy, Holland, etc.)

PS: the Pope has embraced Darwinism and has assigned the pedophiliac Cardinal Law to oversee Childrens' and Family Issues at the Papal Curia. True story! Rebutt that! Rebutt anything I've said.

Don't forget the sooper sek... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Don't forget the sooper sekret mainframe hidden under St. Peter's Basilica. The one that keeps all the protestants' DNA catalogued.

OhGood Lord</... (Below threshold)
SAHMmy:

Oh
Good
Lord

bryanD, do you mean to say that you do not 'believe' in biological evolution? Is that what you mean by 'Darwinism'?

Oh, and for the record? Th... (Below threshold)
SAHMmy:

Oh, and for the record? The POS Cardinal Law was never accused of pedophilia, rather instead he acted like a non-Believer and shuffled the perv priests around the diocese.

You look at the frailty of the Catholic clergy and see it as evidence of a false faith. But I ask you, if you were satan what would you go after? A false Church or the Church that was actually founded by the Son of God? Which would be better for you to attack?

It's a shame you so gleefully aide and abet The Liar.

The dirty secret is, Naz... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

The dirty secret is, Naziism is a Catholic offshoot that got out of control.

Which makes the Church's rather numerous problems with the Nazis baffling, huh?

Bryan, my area of study in college was specifically the rise of totalitarian regimes in Depression-era Europe. Believe me, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about.
-=Mike

He's a Jack Chick devotee. ... (Below threshold)
SAHMmy:

He's a Jack Chick devotee. *shrug*

"Don't forget the sooper se... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"Don't forget the sooper sekret mainframe hidden under St. Peter's Basilica. The one that keeps all the protestants' DNA catalogued.
Posted by: SCSIwuzzy"

I was baptisted by a Catholic friend, though I considered it as a generic water baptism (albiet by "sprinkling"). As a favor, I allowed him to send my name to Rome as an adult convert. Probably input via Linux.


"Oh
Good
Lord
bryanD, do you mean to say that you do not 'believe' in biological evolution? Is that what you mean by 'Darwinism'?
Posted by: SAHMmy

See what I mean? Popery at it's most mind-numbed. (At least many Catholics consider themselves Catholics first, "Christian" second. I can respect that. Whatever the Pope says, goes.)

I happen to believe in the creation sequence of Genesis. If God wanted to isolate the amino acid stage, he would have said so. Instead he created man, etc, "and the EVENING and the MORNING were the 6th day". Not 3 revolutions of Pluto. It was plainly a sidereal day. Sun up, sun down. It is written.

"Oh, and for the record? The POS Cardinal Law was never accused of pedophilia, rather instead he acted like a non-Believer and shuffled the perv priests around the diocese.
Posted by: SAHMmy"

That "POS" got promoted to arch-priest of Childrens' and Family Issues AND arch-priest of perpetual prayers over JohnPaul II's tomb. In Rome. In da House! Rationalize away!

"A false Church or the Church that was actually founded by the Son of God
Posted by: SAHMmy"

The church founded by the son of God was in Jerusalem. Later He appeared to John in Revelation and proclaimed the twelve extant Churches (circa 90 ad) and Rome was not one of them.
Later in Revelation, Rome is identified as "Babylon": "Babylon WHICH IS Rome". Later still, the whore that rides the beast is called "Mystery Babylon, mother of abominations". This was a prophesy of the supposed re-raising of Christ at Mass through the incantation: "Mysterium Fide".
Finally, (pay attention) the mark of the beast is the numeric value of the Pope's ancient Latin title (every letter has a number value in latin), which is VICARIUS FILII DEI = 666.

I could go on with further signs that the RC Church is the opposite of godly: Changing "days and laws": hint, Sabbath(Saturday, the 7th day, of rest) to SUNday because the Romans were a sun cult. And erasing the Hebrew prohibition of worshipping idols of the 2nd commandment, and splitting the 10th commandment in two to keep the ten. Understand? Compare the Hebrew and Catholic versions. For GP.

"Which makes the Church's rather numerous problems with the Nazis baffling, huh
Posted by: MikeSC"

Play with fire, you're gonna get burned. No mystery there.

"Bryan, my area of study in college was specifically the rise of totalitarian regimes in Depression-era Europe. Believe me, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about.
-=Mike"

Dazzle me. (No really. I haven't eaten yet.) Might be occupied til tommorow AM, but will read your survey. Start with Mussolini reinvesting the Pope of his temporal powers. Was it 1922? (Can't remember offhand). That was before the Crash and you may have studied TO the test, and thus be flattering yourself, so start anywhere, '29,'30...

Mike, or the German depress... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

Mike, or the German depression? 1918-19? The Freikorps and the Thule Society? I'll eat your lunch. Bring it on! (College boy :))

Shaking the dust from my sa... (Below threshold)
SAHMmy:

Shaking the dust from my sandals, bryanD. You are kind of a scary fundie person. I'll leave you to Christ and hold you in prayer.

Play with fire, you're g... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Play with fire, you're gonna get burned. No mystery there.

The Church opposed the Nazis from the on-set. The Nazis LOATHED the Catholic Church from the word go. They sought to take the Church over and control it as the means of total domination of the citizenry.

Dazzle me. (No really. I haven't eaten yet.) Might be occupied til tommorow AM, but will read your survey. Start with Mussolini reinvesting the Pope of his temporal powers. Was it 1922? (Can't remember offhand). That was before the Crash and you may have studied TO the test, and thus be flattering yourself, so start anywhere, '29,'30...

It was 1929, with the Concordat of Rome after the Church renounced the bulk of the Papal States.

Mike, or the German depression? 1918-19? The Freikorps and the Thule Society? I'll eat your lunch. Bring it on! (College boy :))

I initially focused upon the 1930's, but the story of Germany's economic collapse in 1923 and the massive hyperinflation became more than mildly fascinating and I found the rise of Hitler to be a very interesting tale. Mussolini managing to bluff his way into power was far less impressive.

And, yes, I'm quite familiar with the Freikorps, the Thule Society, and the assorted rebellions in 1919 and 1920.
-=Mike




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