Technically he's right. All inhabitants of the Americas (north and south) are Americans. Most of the 12 million are from some part of the Americas. Only those from outside the Western hemisphere can't be called Americans.

Sorry couldn't resist...Obviously a slip by Reid.

We know Bush never makes those.

If real Americans don't wake up, we're finished. Our culture and government cannot withstand the onslaught of corruption coming from the left much longer.

Has it been clarified as meaning from the Americas by Reid? Or some kind of mistake?

Harry Reid is a conplete idiot. Worse then Pee-looser. Flash!!!!! Alan Combs say he was taken out of context.He's out alright-waaaaay out.

Gee, I wonder why the concept of citizenship is dead? Could it be because we've effectively stopped enforcing immigration laws? Could it be because we've stop insisting immigrants learn and speak English? Could it be because we're too afraid to point out the illegal Latinos have the highest high school dropout rate and the highest out of wedlock birthrate? Could it be because we don't even require people to prove that they are citizens and registered to vote when in the polling place? Could it be because we do nothing when illegal aliens tear down the US flag and raise the Mexican flag?

Naw, I'm just a mean-spirited "nativist".

He's just articulating what so many Left-Wingers think, so in a way I'm glad for his candor. It might make people who are 'on the fence' realize, at long last, what Congress is doing on the Immigration issue. This could be a turning point, if the press were to report it.

/ crickets & cicadas chirping

He knows exactly what he said, all he sees is 12 million votes. He/they have little concern the effect they'll have on this country.

How does that shoe leather taste Harry?

The Immigration bill isn't about helping illegals. It's about helping businesses.

Watching Republican and Conservatives whine about how their political heroes (Hello W) are abandoning regular citizens to assist businesses is hilarious.

Did you really think Republican politicians cared about regular Americans?
Maybe you should change your party affiliation name to "Naive".

Here's all we need from Congress: A declaration to the Administration from Congress stating that "Congress expects and insists that all Federal agencies immediately commence the enforcement of all the US immigration laws Congress has passed and are signed into law. Any additional necessary funding will be immediately addressed by Congress as a budget supplemental." If they cant do that, they need to just shut up and go home. gc

Larkin's logical fallacies today are: Appeal to Common Practice, Appeal to Ridicule, and Ad Hominem Tu Quoque. Congrats, Larkin! It's a hat trick!

Larkin: "Technically he's right. All inhabitants of the Americas (north and south) are Americans"

So Reid wants to grant citizenship to ALL "americans"??? Over half a BILLION of them???

Puhleeze. In the U.S. Congress, when a politician says: "American" they are NEVER referring to Argentinians, Ecuadorians, etc...

Reid DID slip...he slipped by stating what he truly feels: that these 12,000,000 ILLEGAL aliens are ALREADY CITIZENS in his mind! [and Democrats to boot!]

Hey Robert. I see you and Larkin have talked this morning.

This just confirms that he has been sampling too much of the legal (HIV+) that's available in NV.

I would'nt mind so much, if he knew who they were and where they are.

The hard facts (Heather MacDonald, Manhatten Institure): Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country - over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

Hispanics have the highest school drop-out rate in the country - a recipe for economic decline. In the Los Angeles Unified School District, which is 73% Hispanic, just 40% of Hispanic students graduate.

What do Jorge and Jeb Busheron say....? LOL

I'll bet Lee that the House stays Republican. If not, I will not post anywhere on Wizbang for one year from the election. But if it does, Lee is to not post anywhere on Wizbang (of course he is still permitted to read and be educated) for one year from the election.

Posted by: nehemiah at October 30, 2006 12:30 PM

Did he take the bet? That would be important, right. Just like a lib to post what is clearly a mislead. Post the reply where he took it, dude, as it might be important.

The confusion about the photos (by Drudge, Kim was just basically linking to Drudge) are not any big deal. As no one thinks that having had plastic surgery will or will not break Hillary's candidacy.

But it is posts like this by "Memory Hole" aka (Lee, aka Lee Ward) that truly do damage and are actually malicious. He that complained of misleading statements yesterday (see the area with Hillary's before/after photo yesterday and Lee's condemnation for a possible mislead), and compare that to the above.

He implies that he took the bet. He of course never did, and I actually later commented that it was good that he did not take the bet as I would have felt bad that he would get depressed not being able to post his ridiculousness for anyone. Now, are you still walking your French poodle and waxing the dolphin, or would you agree that what you imply above is misleading? Lee?

Lee (who I know has a lot of time), who had time today to dig up all my comments from before the election now suddenly seems to have had somewhere to go. Was it that difficult to find where you said you would take the bet, or was it convenient to leave that out?

In fact, I am going to myself go to the archives and posted that I would forget the bet due to your non-reply (which I'm sure you remember). I am going to make sure to take time to do this and prove to the Wizbang readers your willful deceit. That would be meritorious service. I'll post for sure before the end of the day. And that's a promise.

Lee,

I'm happy to see you actually addressed this topic (outcome of House races). You I'm sure will remember in these last two weeks cutting and pasting part of an article from Charlie Cook where he projected that the number of seats which will change hands is much more likely closer to 30 than the needed 15.

Are you now saying that you don't agree with what you posted as evidence? That's fine, since you never officially took up the wager. I would propose it again, but I don't think it would be very enjoyable (in earnest) to see you not posting at Wizbang for a whole year. And seeing how active you are as a commenter, I would not like to see such an outcome (both for the community and for you). So for me it will just be a curiosity to see who is right or closer to being right. In addition to the numbers up there, I also make the following predictions.

Tennessee, Virginia, Missouri: Not in play.

NJ: Will stay Dem.
MD: Will probably stay Dem.
Montana: Will stay Republican
Ohio: Will probably stay Republican
Pennsylvania: Will stay Republican

Questions?

Posted by: nehemiah at November 2, 2006 01:56 PM

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There it is on Nov. 2nd.
Lee probably read it while searching for his post that pretended he took the bet. We basically knew Lee's character. I will post the above occasionally at whichever thread, when Lee seems active. Thanks.

So if environmentalists can take the Federal government to court and force it to enforce environmental laws why can't organizations like the Minutemen do the same thing for immigration laws?

Everyone who's on the fence about this issue needs to go read Sen. Sessions' critique. It is absolutely devestating. As he shows, this bill has actually moved further in the direction of unconditional amnesty than last year's bill.

By the way, Rahm the commie Emanuel is nervous. I don't know if it due to Castro's failing health, or the Republican momentum.

But good going on not taking my wager. I'm serious. It was a good move on your part.

Posted by: nehemiah at November 6, 2006 01:00 PM

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may many abortions happen in your family. I don't try to convince any liberals anymore. They are my enemies and I treat them as such. May you and your family go to hell.

Posted by: nehemiah at November 4, 2006 07:26 PM

Congress should just enact legislation to privatize enforcement of immigration laws. We get folks like D.O.G. hunting illegals and it wouldn't be long before our population would be under 300 million again.

Hopefully Kim and Jay will keep putting up new ones so that the other thread will keep getting pushed down.

Posted by: nehemiah at June 6, 2007 12:01 PM

Memory Hole,

Since you looked up so many of my posts, why did you not post the one from Nov. 2nd?

Once you lose the argument (which implied that I violated the bet by posting earlier than promised), then character assasination is the next method.

Isn't that what libs criticize?

By the way, I don't back off from any of those comments.

Now can you address your misleading post (original implication that I violated the bet)?

So let me please summarize what happened. Lee (Memory Hole) proved that he knew that there was no real wager (he even posted a later post where I said "good going not taking my wager"), but wanted Wizbang readers to think I broke a promise not to post. But the bet was never taken (as there is only too much proof above).

So now he's basically calling me an evil person. Never mind what he originally implied. Don't get distracted by what he's doing. Please read from Memory Hole's post at 11:03 a.m.

By the way, since Lee is not providing any context, I will provide it. My post above was partly in response to astigafa calling Lorie a babykiller:

"Tell me, Lorie, do you think the hippies calling soldiers "baby killers" are convincing those soldiers not to serve their country? Would you feel closer to my point of view if I said that your are a goddamn neocon hypocrite, and that those babies are the only lives in the world that you would not take?

You support the war in Iraq, therefore you are in league with the baby killers in uniform, right? Therefore you yourself are a militaristic baby killer" (astigafa, Nov 4th, 2006)

mantis,

In case you didn't understand, that's for Lee's sake that this thread will get less visible.

In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab:

And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people.

And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves.

- Nehemiah 13:23-25

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As our great President said that we cannot negotiate with terrorists, we cannot negotiate with abortionists and liberals. It is not going to work by talking to them and trying to convince them. We are a nation at war -- the secular humanists and those they've deceived -- they have launched a coup d'etat. We have a choice to embrace them as our leaders, or stay loyal to God who will soon return. We HAVE to make a choice.

Posted by: nehemiah at November 4, 2006 12:18 PM

Nehemiah 13:26

Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him King over all Israel: nevertheless did outlandish somen cause to sin.

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Only difference is that the libs are not pretty (outlandish). But still they cause sin. By the way, if you're comparing me to God's servant Nehemiah, it is an honor I cannot accept. I am not worthy to be compared to Nehemiah of the Old Testament.

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So mantis, still the initial post from Oct. 30th was brought up so that I would not post anymore. Could you comment on that?

Sorry, the passage in Nehemiah 13 is "outlandish women cause to sin".

Since Lee's gone from this thread, I'll just remind him what he tried to do from time to time. I didn't mean to take this thread away from the Harry Reid topic -- but it was Lee who posted something misleading. I've got to work now.

Well, it looks like anti-logic has hijacked another thread.

I thank God every day that I was able to help elect Sen. Sessions. His pointing out the failings of this bill crafted by Kennedy and his mirmadons as a "shamnesty" will do more to mobilize efforts against its passage.