Harry Reid said he'd shelve the bill if today's cloture vote failed, which it did 33-63. Will Reid shelve the bill as promised? Nope. Another cloture vote is scheduled for 5:00pm tonight. Why? According to Bloomberg News, Reid is putting pressure on President Bush to strong arm the Republicans into voting for cloture later today.
The 33 votes to shut off debate were 27 short of the 60 needed by Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada to bring to a conclusion debate on legislation to grant legal status to 12 million undocumented aliens. He said he would seek another vote later today.
Reid appealed to Bush to twist the arms of Republicans who voted against limiting debate, saying an inability to pass the legislation would produce headlines that the ``president fails again.''``This is the president's bill. He has worked long and hard,'' Reid said. ``This bill that's on the floor is not a Democratic bill, it is a bill that was worked on by Democrats and Republicans in cooperation with the president.''
Reid's insistence that this is not a Democratic bill is laughable. Far more Democrats have fought for this bill than Republicans. Yes, President Bush has pushed for an immigration bill with a guest worker program for years, but he's done so with many Republicans fighting him all the way. On the other hand, the Democrats themselves have been chomping at the bit to legalize the millions of illegals in this country. As we saw yesterday, Reid even went so far as to refer to the illegals in this country as "Twelve millions undocumented Americans." The Democrats want this bill because they want these millions of illegals as future Democrat voters. Let's not forget it was the Democrats who were distributing this flyer at a Dallas illegal immigration protest last year. So for Reid to now stand back and insist that he and the Democrats really weren't behind this amnesty bill is disingenuous. The fact that Reid needs the President to pressure the Republicans to vote for cloture illustrates that it's far more of a Democrat bill than a Republican bill.
So, we'll see how well President Bush's pressure tactic worked at 5:00pm today when the cloture vote happens again.
Added: As commenter Langtry reminds me, Bush is in Germany for the G8 summit, so he will have a heck of a time pressuring the Republicans to vote for cloture, and Reid knows this.
Update: Harry Reid voted for Byron Dorgan's amendment that would sunset the guest worker program after five years. Allahpundit offers a couple possibilities why:
Is Reid trying to get the bill passed with a sunset provision on the anti-labor guest worker program, or is he trying to get the bill killed so that he can revisit this subject in a few years when he's got a bigger majority in the Senate? If the latter, why not just shelve the thing now? (Possible answer: Because then blame for the bill's failure falls squarely in the Democrats' lap. Forcing the Republicans' to filibuster it makes it more of a shared failure.)
Update II: If tonight's cloture vote fails, Reid says the bill's done. From NBC:
Moments ago in a off-camera briefing, Reid said if the vote failed again he'd pull the bill from the floor indefinitely saying, "the bill's over with. The bill's gone." He never said it was dead, but indicated he clearly had other priorities to put before the Senate in the coming weeks.
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What Reid is doing just mak... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Cousin Dave | June 7, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What Reid is doing just makes no sense to me. He simply isn't going to pick up 27 votes between now and 5:00 PM. Won't happen. The Democrats had a lot of their emotional well-being staked on this bill, and it looks like it's going to take them a while to get past it. Meanwhile, how many of those 100 hours have we used up?
1. Posted by Cousin Dave | June 7, 2007 2:16 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:16
2. Posted by Xennady | June 7, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well of course it isn't a Democratic bill! It's rather unpopular and Reid is quite eager to hang this albatross around the GOP's neck.And thanks to George Bush, he just might succeed.
2. Posted by Xennady | June 7, 2007 2:16 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:16
3. Posted by langtry | June 7, 2007 2:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Keep on dreamin', Harry. A President can't do as good a job strong arming wayward Senators when he is eight time zones away at the G8 Summit in Germany.
3. Posted by langtry | June 7, 2007 2:17 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:17
4. Posted by langtry | June 7, 2007 2:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Does anyone else wish the President would say to Harry Reid:
4. Posted by langtry | June 7, 2007 2:19 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:19
5. Posted by BillT | June 7, 2007 2:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
""Twelve millions undocumented Americans." The Democrats want this bill because they want these millions of illegals as future Democrat voters." - I think it may be even more complicated than this.
Check the new Social Security EVS plan, deals for labor and changes in Visa laws.
5. Posted by BillT | June 7, 2007 2:21 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:21
6. Posted by Nessus | June 7, 2007 2:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's all about being an adult folks - limits. Quietly some writers and pundits are coming out speaking truth to this issue. It's not just about illegal immigration its about the seminal decision: immigration. How many and from where? And do we as a sovereign nation have the right to decide? I say of course we do, just like every other nation does.
That makes many a liberal (neocon)republican wince but that's the true crux of the issue. Don't believe me?
See this column today. I urge you to read it.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21000
6. Posted by Nessus | June 7, 2007 2:43 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 14:43
7. Posted by doriangrey | June 7, 2007 3:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fax your congress-critter and tell them Just say no.....
http://www.numbersusa.com/faxcenter
7. Posted by doriangrey | June 7, 2007 3:29 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 15:29
8. Posted by DJ Drummond | June 7, 2007 4:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kill (the) bill!
8. Posted by DJ Drummond | June 7, 2007 4:27 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 16:27
9. Posted by Oyster | June 7, 2007 4:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"The Democrats want this bill because they want these millions of illegals as future Democrat voters."
Though they're unwilling to admit it, they're also hoping that by getting them legalized more will be paying taxes that will temporarily shore up that pathetic institution they call Social Security so they can tell us it was never in any danger of collapsing ... until another generation has passed and it begins rotting again. But then, it'll be someone elses problem, right?
9. Posted by Oyster | June 7, 2007 4:34 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 16:34
10. Posted by Sean Hackbarth | June 7, 2007 5:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
There's been way too much acrimony on this issue. It also doesn't hurt when this bill is so big who knows what unintended consequences are contined within. A do-over and some time to inhale and exhale would be appreciated.
10. Posted by Sean Hackbarth | June 7, 2007 5:26 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 17:26
11. Posted by Scrapiron | June 7, 2007 5:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess the Amnesty bill championed by the president but 'written' by drunken Ted K will end up like the 'No Child Left Behind' bill, championed by the president 'Written' by drunken Ted K. I've heard many democrats try to disassociate themselves from the NCLB bill but the record is there. Has drunken Ted and 'I was a POW McCain' ever been involved in anything that didn't turn American lives into shambles.
11. Posted by Scrapiron | June 7, 2007 5:50 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 17:50
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 7, 2007 6:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This thing is dying but Kennedy and Lott are trying to revive it. What a pair. Something is wrong for sure now. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 7, 2007 6:08 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 18:08
13. Posted by kim | June 7, 2007 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Certainly more theatre of the absurd than Kabuki.
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13. Posted by kim | June 7, 2007 6:16 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 18:16
14. Posted by HughS | June 7, 2007 7:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Michel's torch bearer
Trent Lott: (via HH) Senator Kennedy, I appreciate the legislative leadership you have been providing. I know it is not easy, you know, and your own colleagues and those of us over here have been beating you up. I mean, your a nice poster child. Thank you very much for what you do. But I'll tell you one thing I have learned the hard way. When it comes to legislating, when you are dealing with Senator Kennedy, you had better bring your lunch, because you are going to get educated, you are going to learn a lot, and you are going to get a result.
As for Trent Lott's comments, I'm reminded of another congressman.
He was a very engaging gentleman. He possessed a tremendous wit, could tell a joke like no one else and was generally the most entertaining fellow in his club.
His name was Robert H. Michel , Republican minority leader forever...
Lott is an embarassment with his praise of Kennedy. He needs to go back home and retire from public office, as did Michel.
14. Posted by HughS | June 7, 2007 7:51 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 19:51
15. Posted by Insomniac | June 7, 2007 8:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Watching Trent Lott kissing The Swimmer's drunken, bloated arse on the Senate floor was quite disgusting. Is this what's become of the Grand Old Party?
I've had it with these clowns.
15. Posted by Insomniac | June 7, 2007 8:03 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 20:03
16. Posted by Bill Clinton | June 7, 2007 8:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ahh, man. I was looking forward to doing all those hot, but legal conchitas!
Oh well, nothing changed. C'mon here Consuela, I got somthing to show you. Yeah, kiss it!
16. Posted by Bill Clinton | June 7, 2007 8:44 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 20:44
17. Posted by DSkinner | June 7, 2007 10:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And then she'll need to put ice on it, right Bill?
17. Posted by DSkinner | June 7, 2007 10:30 PM |
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Posted on June 7, 2007 22:30
18. Posted by armeav8r | June 8, 2007 9:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just goes to show you, Harry Reid is a bold faced liar. How a scumbag like that can rise to a position of authority and power is almost beyond comprehension.
18. Posted by armeav8r | June 8, 2007 9:36 AM |
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Posted on June 8, 2007 09:36
19. Posted by Ramah Shaw | June 11, 2007 12:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Where can I get a list of senators who voted for and against the immigration bill?
19. Posted by Ramah Shaw | June 11, 2007 12:08 PM |
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Posted on June 11, 2007 12:08