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Bernie Goldberg Interview

John Hawkins has an interview with Bernard Goldberg posted at Right Wing News about his new book, Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right. Goldberg is, as always, interesting and entertaining. Here is a brief excerpt:

John Hawkins:What do you think about the sort of rhetoric used on the left, particularly on the left side of the blogosphere? You know, Bush is Hitler, they're playing up conspiracy theories, that sort of thing?

Bernard Goldberg: It's very, very damaging because once somebody says, "Bush is Hitler," that isn't the beginning of a conversation, that ends the conversation. (There's a) chapter in the book, which is kind of funny, (where) Alec Baldwin is... (compared by his wife) to Saddam Hussein. And Alec Baldwin said, "I'm not Saddam Hussein, I don't kill people, I don't do what Saddam Hussein does", and I make the point in the book that Alec Baldwin is right. He has every right to say, "I'm not Saddam Hussein." Then I said, "Alec, now go out and show that same outrage with your Hollywood friends who call George Bush Adolph Hitler." Because that kind of Rosie O'Donnell rhetoric, where radical Christians are as bad as radical Muslims... the sort of rhetoric where Joy Behar on The View compares Donald Rumsfeld to Hitler, that kind of stuff, turns decent people off.


Comments (66)

"that kind of stuff, tur... (Below threshold)
Lee Ward:

"that kind of stuff, turns decent people off."

"Decent people" agree that Bush is the worst thing that could have happened to this country.

Lee the Liar Czar again mis... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Lee the Liar Czar again misses the point. I hope the grown ups show up for this post. ww

Only someone completely ign... (Below threshold)

Only someone completely ignorant of history could think that Bush or Rumsfeld is some kind of Nazi.

You may not like them for a number of reasons, but to make that comparison only shows how absolutely idiotic you are.

VW

Yes, it does turn off decen... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Yes, it does turn off decent people

However, the sad fact is that there are few "decent" democrats left.

JOKinda like those... (Below threshold)
JFO:

JO

Kinda like those "decent" republicans who so easily call democrats traitors ?

When you hypocrites acknowledge that the name-calling is as prevalent on one side as the other, then you'll get some credibility. Till then your partisanship outweighs your credibility.

The holier-than-thou attitude of some from the right is pretty disgusting.

And the more-compassionate-... (Below threshold)
Jo:

And the more-compassionate-than-thou attitude of the Left has always disgusted me.

And the democrats ARE traitors. When you help out the enemy, you're a traitor.

So your point? Oh, you have none.

Moron.

Ward, in the only poll that... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Ward, in the only poll that counts, Bush received 61 million votes or about 3 million more than your favorite, the communist loving war hero John Fuckamerica Kerry. Ward is saying the majority of the American people are not decent. Go eat some more shit sandwiches Lee. Lee's shining example of decency is W.J. Clinton, a married man, soliciting and receiving oral sex from an intern little more than half his age and suborning perjury from that same intern when the matter was investigated. Decent behavior from the chief executive of this nation. The left has learned from the Nazis, of whom Hitler was the leader the call the opposition names when their argument is weak as it always is when coming from the left.

Hey, JFO, (just f**king off... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Hey, JFO, (just f**king off) I understand the terrorists have declared the Democrats as their allies in the war against the United States. You can claim you are not on thier side, but both we and they think your are. The majority rules, you are traitors.

Zelsdorf ^ 5They ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Zelsdorf ^ 5

They don't get it and they never will.

JoYour vapid stupi... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Jo

Your vapid stupidity and hypocrisy never stops does it? And you never fail to demonstrate just how ignorant you are.

I do disagree with our Pres... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

I do disagree with our President on immigration and spending. But on the whole, George W. Bush is a good president.

Jo, JFO reponded to your co... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Jo, JFO reponded to your comment on decency by calling you stupid, a hypocrite and ignorant. All in one sentence. This doesn't get any better then this. They can't even see the point of the post. ww

....at...what...point..in t... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

....at...what...point..in time...will Bernie G...and others here, recognize...The Republicans..and those who are card carrying members...admit..
That for 6 years yours was the White House...the Senate..the House...and the Supreme Court..
If those six years are a recognized failure..
(unless of course you discount 9/11..Iraq..etc..)
...how can the blame be placed on a minority??

Just wondering...with the expectations of being in charge...of ...well everything...How is it going?

Really...either everything is better with you folks in charge or it isn't..(yeah maybe the Dems would have screwed up as much...but they were the minority...)

Liberal logic:JFO ... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Liberal logic:

JFO disgusted and annoyed by being his party being called traitors.

His country being called evil? His party giving and comfort and aid to the enemy?

No problemo! That's patriotic!

Yeah, makes sense.

Again, moron.

Wildwillie, I know, I know!... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Wildwillie, I know, I know! lol. Too funny.

JFO just proved Goldberg's ... (Below threshold)
TR19667:

JFO just proved Goldberg's point. LOLOL

Republican logic.... we kic... (Below threshold)
nogo postal:

Republican logic.... we kicked ass in 2000...2002..2004...name one part of what we did that was a mistake?

...ok...we dumped Rumsfield acknowledged as the greatest Sec of Defenses ever...but we won in Iraq...
abortion is illegal...no illegal immigrants..no home foreclosures,,,..credit card companies were saved...we pay less for health care insurance..
Republican victories are obvious...

Breathe, nogo.Firs... (Below threshold)

Breathe, nogo.

Firstly... no one but the prescient can recognize failure of foreign or even domestic policy as it happens. People who are *so sure* that Bush has been a foreign policy failure are saying what they think but long before the judgment of History can possibly come to bear.

Now, good on you that the Democrats can claim total inefficacy for six years. Too bad they all sat there getting paid for nothing, huh?

Yes... maybe the Dems would have screwed up just as much. I figure that's pretty much a given, considering what they've been saying we *ought* to do. Though after 9-11 they were on board with the war thing and even before invading Iraq they were on board with the war thing. Maybe if they'd been in power they'd have been invested in making it work instead of trying to make us fail. Maybe they'd have been explaining how the enemy gets a vote. Maybe they'd have been pointing to History and showing how, compared to past wars, this one isn't so bad nor in any way so bleak, instead of playing to the opposition for political bennies.

But we've got JFO up there foaming at the mouth about hypocrisy and saying how the right ought not point out how hateful and entirely insane the left is. Why? Sounds to me like children absolutely refusing to be the first to shape up... and no promise that if the right dons the sack-cloth and ashes that the response will be anything but told-you-so.

Quite apart from anything the right does or doesn't do, the left loses credibility by tolerating the truthers, the Bushitler rhetoric, the incredible hubris and elitism that *doesn't* ever say "maybe the Dems would have screwed up just as much."

Or worse yet, "lets work together to get the best we possibly can out of Iraq."

No. The minority, who couldn't possibly say anything that possibly matters, because they are the minority and no one listens to them, worked against a victory in Iraq... couldn't have paid someone to do better morale work for the enemy. Intent or not, those are facts. And getting the majority in Congress hasn't helped at all. No sudden concern about the results of the rhetoric on the expectations and behavior of the enemy. None.

nogo,Who said thin... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

nogo,

Who said things didn't get better? I think they did. A lot. But more could have been done.

And the right hasn't had the Supreme Court for decades. Not in my lifetime. (I'll give you a clue- just being appointed by a Republican President does not make one right-thinking.)

Plus, the Senate majority didn't come until 2002. And the left was able to keep a lot of the good that could have been done from happening (ever hear of a filibuster?).

You're argument is not so strong if you have to misrepresent many, many facts to make it. (Like Micheal Moore, Al Gore, and the "truthers".)

"that isn't the beginning of a conversation, that ends the conversation"

That's hits the nail on the head.

And I realize that calling you "traitors" is kinda the same thing coming from the right. Maybe "unintentional co-conspirators" would be a better term?

Comparing Bush to Hitler is... (Below threshold)
Steve Crickmore:

Comparing Bush to Hitler is a straw-man argument...But Bush to Nixon and all their shared dishonesties is fair game.. Bernie Goldberg said, "CBS News is acting the way the Nixon administration did during Watergate. I'm really sad to say that Dan Rather is acting like Richard Nixon. It's the coverup, it's the stonewalling."
Substitute Bush for CBS News and a whole host of issues the Bushies are trying to cover up and stonewall like Gonzales, Iraq or global warming and the comparison is apt and all too familiar.

"Substitute Bush for CBS... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

"Substitute Bush for CBS News and a whole host of issues the Bushies are trying to cover up and stonewall like Gonzales, Iraq or global warming and the comparison is apt and all too familiar."

Only for those who, blinded by thier ideology, lack the ability to separate fact from opinion.

Nogo,The more folks ... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

Nogo,
The more folks like yourself who continue to rag on about what an utter disaster George Bush has been as President the more they help to show how incredibly inadequate the opposition had been at being unable to remove this man from office in 2004. It is ashame despite the rantings of folks like yourself, you could not come up with any other citizen in this whole country to defeat him in 2004. The majority of Americans saved you the embarrassment of having to watch John Kerry hold the office of President for 4 years. GWB is leaving office in 2008 unable to run again by constitutional directive. Your dreams of beating him in an election can only be transferred to some surrogate. Easy to criticize but more difficult to offer an alternative. Who would you like to see make it to the White House in 2008???

Lee the Liar Czar ... (Below threshold)
John in CA:
Lee the Liar Czar again misses the point. I hope the grown ups show up for this post. ww

leeward has to come over here for company. Although the grownups at Wizbang built him his own little sandbox, he's lonely 'cuz hardly anyone will come and play with him.

You know, there's always a few kids in the neighborhood like that - the one's no one wants to play with...

Jo,You are worse t... (Below threshold)
for fun:

Jo,

You are worse than Hitler.

Here is the leading liberal... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Here is the leading liberal terrorist apologist: Carter

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/010287.php

To whom should we compare Bill and Hillary Clinton? What can we say about Reid/Pelosi and their culture of corruption?

Love America Immigrant,... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Love America Immigrant,

Carter? Now there is an embarrassing presidency. VERY embarrassing. It's funny to watch the dems try to rehabilitate his humiliating reign. I don't think the guy did anything right. If he did, it doesn't come to mind at the moment. Not only that, he continues to be an embarrassment. All the Bush whining in the world won't whitewash that guy.

And if you think the Bush administration is crooked (which he's not) then compare it to the last administration. The Clintons are the biggest crooks to ever set foot in DC. Period.

All the below...just reason... (Below threshold)
Pigs "Я" U:

All the below...just reason and love speech from the Right, right here at Wizbang & right here on Lorie's Bernard Goldberg thread.

"Lee the Liar Czar"
"there are few "decent" democrats left."
"And the democrats ARE traitors. When you
help out the enemy, you're a traitor."
"Go eat some more shit sandwiches Lee"
"The left has learned from the Nazis,"
" I understand the terrorists have declared the Democrats as their allies in the war against the United States."
"you are traitors"
"the minority ... worked against a victory in Iraq.."
"Here is the leading liberal terrorist apologist: Carter"

So John Hawkins & Lorie love to quote Goldberg & lay all the hate at the feet of the Left.

Bwahahahahahahaha...end of conversation

Now, now - Pigs "R" -- thes... (Below threshold)

Now, now - Pigs "R" -- these poor chaps are behind in the polls again, and they are assured of losing the battle over the Immigration bill.

Every day the world gets darker and darker for them. They have every reason to be angry.

If the shoe fits....<... (Below threshold)
Jo:

If the shoe fits....

(oh, and it does)

Leeward, again it was fun t... (Below threshold)
Jo:

Leeward, again it was fun to see the polls build up your hopes in 2004, just to see you let down all that much harder.

2004 was fun, and 2008 will be too.

Schadenfreude. It's a beautiful thing. :)

It's not clear to me after ... (Below threshold)
groucho:

It's not clear to me after reading the Goldberg interview who exactly has said "Bush is Hitler". The quotes are his, so I'm figuring he has a source. Who? Rosie O? A TV talking head has the power to stir up the righty hornet's nest? Wow, stop the presses, now THERE'S a reason to work yourselves up! That's just SO unlike the kind and gentle pundits on the right, right?

Goldberg also references the notorious Bush Derangement Syndrome, the right's default mode for their inability to defend the indefensible, namely the President not wearing any clothes, something that is so obvious to those with the ability to reason who are still concerned and paying attention.

"2004 was fun, and 20... (Below threshold)
Pigs "Я" U:

"2004 was fun, and 2008 will be too." Jo

Bwahahahahahahah Where would you like your 2 dozen black roses sent election night 2008?

Lee:Now, now -... (Below threshold)
marc:

Lee:

Now, now - Pigs "R" -- these poor chaps are behind in the polls again, and they are assured of losing the battle over the Immigration bill.

"Now, now" - Lee Ward -- if "they are assured losing the battle over the Immigration bill," how do you explain this:

"Allowing illegal workers who arrived in the U.S. to apply for permanent U.S. residency if they return to their home country within eight years and pay additional fines."

the highest number is those "strongly opposed," 35%

"Allowing illegal workers who arrived in the U.S. before January 1st of this year to receive an automatic work visa if they pay a fine of around five thousand dollars."

Again the highest number (by double) 46% strongly oppose.

They only thing "assured" Lee is members of BOTH parties don't have a frickin' clue what the citizens what and are more interested in cutting back-room deals on immigration, with near zero meaningful debate, and foisting a 900 page monstrosity on the public and then make a mad rush to get it passed before the public is none-the-wiser.

Kinda like you Lee, none-the-wiser.

one more time---as the sayi... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

one more time---as the saying goes---polls are like wee wee lee lee wardie--everyone-------snicker snort or is it snort snicker?

Bwahahahahahahah Where ... (Below threshold)
marc:

Bwahahahahahahah Where would you like your 2 dozen black roses sent election night 2008?

Well, if your right Pigs "Я" U I'd say both the U.S Capital and the White House.

Please, Pigs, explain to me... (Below threshold)

Please, Pigs, explain to me how the Democrats have *not* worked against a victory in Iraq?

Saying absolutely nothing about motivation, America hating, or traitors, simply actions. How have they not worked against victory? How have they not worked to undermine confidence and morale?

And the only reason that the Democrats have an illegal immigration bill they want now is because Bush, with as liberal ideas about what to do about illegal immigration as it's possible to have, didn't get his through. So the Democrats think they will do better? How? Are they going to control our borders?

(If nothing else, Bush is consistent on this. He has always favored liberal reforms pertaining to illegal immigration.)

the highest number is th... (Below threshold)

the highest number is those "strongly opposed," 35%

"Allowing illegal workers who arrived in the U.S. before January 1st of this year to receive an automatic work visa if they pay a fine of around five thousand dollars."

Again the highest number (by double) 46% strongly oppose.

And those who strongly oppose it and in the minority, right?

This isn't bowling where the highest score wins. if the majority do not have strong feelings against the bill -- how do you translate that into defeat?

That doesn't make much sense -- but this is a Wizbang! thread... where sense comes second -- which also means instead of a meaningful answer there will be several comments which consist mainly of BWHHHAHAHAHA and grade school-level jokes about my name -- so fire away.

Still get under your skin d... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Still get under your skin don't I wee wee lee lee wardie from the land of bluie. snort snicker
Now tell us something we don't know about you. Like "meanfull answers"-how do we do that to a statement that has no meaning other then you are liars. No wonder they put you over at the bluie site hoping you would stay there. si----no such luck.

Nogo-get your "full stop"..... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Nogo-get your "full stop"...key...fix..ed.
Pigs-Oh, how clever, he found the "Ya" character in the Cyrillic set.

"Well, if your right Pig... (Below threshold)
Pigs "Я" U:

"Well, if your right Pigs "Я" U I'd say both the U.S Capital and the White House."marc

You got your head so far up your ass so far that you're eating your own shit. Be sure to use a toothpick before you go to the polls Nov. 2008.

"Pigs-Oh, how clever, he... (Below threshold)
Pigs "Я" U:

"Pigs-Oh, how clever, he found the "Ya" character in the Cyrillic set."JC

No, actually Jim, I copied it from the back of my Communist Party membership card.

" Crazies to the Left of... (Below threshold)
Pigs "Я" U:

" Crazies to the Left of Me, Wimps to the Right" Bernard Goldberg

Bernie is so far to the right that he actually lives on Venus. So you wimps here at Wizbang shouldn't feel so far out afterall.

There's nothing like seeing... (Below threshold)
Jo:

There's nothing like seeing liberals deflate after they think they're going to win.
So let's hope the polls keep them falsely pacified.

Yeeeehaw. God has a sense of humor.

Pigs are pigs, yo pigshit, ... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Pigs are pigs, yo pigshit, I meant you're pig shit. I apologize to any pigs insulted by the comparison. You are using faulting judgment (as thought you were capable of any other kind) if you believe the 2006 election is a picture of what 2008 will be like. More people voted for American Idol than voted in the last election. No matter which of the losers the ultra left nominates as the Democratic candidate. Moderates and the right will be invigorated by the choice Your best effort in 04 netted 58+ million. Bush, after all the bashing done by the media and Kerry got 61 million votes. If you think higer taxes, more restrictive policies, and a do nothing about terrorism, causing another military loss will endear you to the majority voting public. You are as stupid as I think you are. That includes the dumbfuck lee ward.

Lee, nogo, and the rest of ... (Below threshold)
steak111111:

Lee, nogo, and the rest of the liberals love saddam, OBL, and hitler. They worship them - kind of like gods....

Lee, nogo, and the... (Below threshold)
John in CA:
Lee, nogo, and the rest of the liberals love saddam, OBL, and hitler. They worship them - kind of like gods....

Don't forget Castro and the newest leftist/socialist heart throb, Ugo Chavez.

Actually, the left idolizes... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

Actually, the left idolizes Joseph Stalin. He abided no dissent, murdered millions to insure his policies worked and his legendary paranoia caused him to purge his military over and over again. He made deals with the devil (Hitler) and could not understand why Hitler turned on him. This will be similar to what will happen if a dem gains the White House. They will surrender the middle east to the terrorists and wonder why they still attack us. If you do not think it is treason to allow politics to interfer with the nation when we are fighting a foreign enemy, and don't forget the Democrats for the most part, signed off on this war, then you are a democrat and a traitor. Al Qaeda considers the democrats allies.

Lee:This isn't... (Below threshold)
marc:

Lee:

This isn't bowling where the highest score wins. if the majority do not have strong feelings against the bill -- how do you translate that into defeat?

It gets translated into defeat in one of two ways:

1. If the bill even smells like if will pass the Capital will be inundated with mail, email and I suspect a rather larger crowd on the steps.

Then the bill will be quietly shelved until after the election.

2. If the bill passes any pol that voted for it and is up for election if '08 (the entire House and a third of the Senate) will be on the unemployment line.

It gets translated... (Below threshold)
John in CA:
It gets translated into defeat in one of two ways:

Also, if this bill passes the Senate, it will probably get crushed in the House. SanFranNan has already said she won't even consider the bill unless she has at least 70 Republicans to support it.

After last weeks Amendment to the Homeland Security Budget Authorization denying emergency funds to sanctuary cities passed 234 to 189, I don't see how this amnesty bill is going to gain any traction in the House.

Lee - BTW I agree you proba... (Below threshold)
marc:

Lee - BTW I agree you probably will see "several comments which consist mainly of BWHHHAHAHAHA and grade school-level jokes about my name."

But to be honest I fully expected to see "low-IQ putz" in response. Not to mention the ever "popular" grade school punks.

As far as the bill goes - t... (Below threshold)
JLawson:

As far as the bill goes - this is what I sent to my representatives...

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Vote for the immigration bill as Bush and Kennedy are now pushing it, and you'll never get a vote from me again.

The bill currently tottering through the process needs to be killed, its head cut off, garlic stuffed into the mouth and down the neck, then buried at a crossroad with a stake through its heart.

I realize that as a politician you have to be seen as 'doing something' about a problem, and about the only way you've got to be visible about something like this is to pass a law or bill or whatever - but there's no magic number of laws that will suddenly make the law-breaker an honest man. Piling up law after law that never gets funded properly or enforced properly does no good for our country, and merely encourages more lawbreakers.

We do have an illegal alien problem. The first step in solving it is to admit there IS one, not sugar-coat it with fancy terms like 'undocumented immigrant' and the like. I don't CARE if they like what they're called or not.

The second step is to enforce the laws currently on the books. If you make the hiring of illegal aliens unattractive for businesses, there will be less reason for illegal aliens to come to the US.

The third step would be to clearly state that it doesn't matter one bit if an illegal alien is head of a family that had kids born here in the US - they can either leave voluntarily along with their entire family, or when they get caught and deported, leave their family behind to fend for themselves.

No, it won't be pretty, and it won't be neat. But is IS necessary, and it has to happen sooner rather than later.

As a nation, we're in the process of fracturing along ethnic and linguistic lines. I would dearly love to see some proposals about getting people to self-identify as Americans, instead of (fill in the blank)-Americans. I believe English should be the national language, with every immigrant expected to demonstrate fluency at a minimal 8th grade level. I realize it's not exactly politically correct to say so - but unless you want to see the United States go the way of Yugoslavia, something better be proposed to tie the country together a bit more solidly than it is now.

Sorry about the rant - but it's not hard to see where things are headed if the course isn't changed pretty quick regarding immigration.

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It's unlikely to change any minds - after all, what's one vote more or less - but if enough folks make their displeasure known it's going to have an effect.

Lee the Liar Czar received ... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Lee the Liar Czar received his esteemed name by always looking for the lie. Of coursem, only republicans do in Lee's world where the sky is pink and the clouds are marshmellows. I was going to call him " Lee the Poll King" because he loves them so but the Liar Czar seemed better. The democratic leadership in congress polls lower then GW. Now that is priceless. ww

groucho said:"I... (Below threshold)

groucho said:

"It's not clear to me after reading the Goldberg interview who exactly has said "Bush is Hitler". The quotes are his, so I'm figuring he has a source. Who?"

Okay, here ya go.

"After last weeks Amendm... (Below threshold)

"After last weeks Amendment to the Homeland Security Budget Authorization denying emergency funds to sanctuary cities passed 234 to 189,..."

Please, please, point me to where this is. I want to read it with my own eyes and rejoice that some common sense is finally being applied to this issue.

We can't keep rewarding these cities with more money to fix the very problems they deliberately create.

About 12 hours later and:</... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

About 12 hours later and:

Saying absolutely nothing about motivation, America hating, or traitors, simply actions. How have they not worked against victory? How have they not worked to undermine confidence and morale?

Still no answer to Synova's question.

Zelsdorf: "Al Qaeda cons... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Zelsdorf: "Al Qaeda considers the democrats allies."

I doubt that. I think Al Qaeda hates the Democrats just as much as they hate all Americans, so instead of considering them "allies" they just think of them as useful idiots.

As far as the Democrats go, whith their hatred of moral values and productive people with traditional work ethics, they think it's fine to allow the terorists victory as they ignorantly think it will only harm George Bush and the Republicans. Being full of hatred and embracing evil has made the left very, very myopic.

Getting back to Bernie Gold... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

Getting back to Bernie Goldberg, I would like to remind the libs that in his book "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America (and Al Franken is #37)", liberals outnumber conservatives and independents like 9 to 1.

And on the topic of screwin... (Below threshold)
nehemiah:

And on the topic of screwing up America -- I hope and pray that we will get a strong conservative President in 2008, but I realize that we may not. For all my liberal brothers: I hope you enjoy this time when you can continue to screw up America, because once we are completely screwed by libs, they will not enjoy the totalitarian state.

Nehemiah: Fear not. Hillary... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Nehemiah: Fear not. Hillary will be the dem's candidate. That will mobilize the republicans and independents to vote for anyone but her. Push come to shove, more americans want to move forward and not back to a time where the Clintons did so many hateful things. She brings too much baggage. ww

Yes his '100 people' book i... (Below threshold)
suhnami:

Yes his '100 people' book is the real definitive list of what is wrong with the country. Wasn't Barbara Streisand in there somewhere? She is a SERIOUS threat. Hilarious thread here today. People ripping on lefts who call Bush Hitler, and then they turn around and call the left everything under the sun, Nazis, Al Qaeda, Traitors, even a few expletives that really show some wisdom. Just a question here, not saying it's a fact, but I figure this is the place to ask. Didn't Bush's grandad, Prescott Bush, have his company's assests seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942 (the enemy being Nazi Germany)?

Zelsdorf: "Al Qaeda conside... (Below threshold)
suhnami:

Zelsdorf: "Al Qaeda considers the democrats allies."

Here we go again. We are told to not listen to Al Qaeda when Bin Laden says that our President was more interested in reading a book about a goat instead of taking action when our country is attacked (even when we all saw him do.... nothing for several minutes), but if Al Qaeda says democrats are allies then we should take that at face value. Listen when it helps your stance and denounce when it doesn't. As an independant this grows weary. This logic, which both the right and left are equally guilty leads to a wonderful nowhere.

P Bunyan:You might... (Below threshold)
JFO:

P Bunyan:

You might try taking look in the mirror when it comes to tossing around the "they hate....." label. Do you know how utterly absurd your comment is?

Oyster,P... (Below threshold)
John in CA:

Oyster,

Please, please, point me to where this is. I want to read it with my own eyes and rejoice that some common sense is finally being applied to this issue.

Think this is the subject amendment: Tancredo Amendment 7 HR2638, Roll Call Vote 485

"We are told to not listen ... (Below threshold)

"We are told to not listen to Al Qaeda when Bin Laden says that our President was more interested in reading a book about a goat instead of taking action when our country is attacked (even when we all saw him do.... nothing for several minutes), but if Al Qaeda says democrats are allies then we should take that at face value."


Um... you did realize that Bin Laden took that goat thing right out of M.Moore's movie, don't you. Bin Laden was using the Democrat rhetoric, almost word for word... you people wrote his speech for him.

JFO,Hardly. I don... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

JFO,

Hardly. I don't hate leftists. I do hate abortion and fascism which the left supports. I hate evil, which the left embraces. I also hate lies, which are what the left constantly utters, but I don't hate you leftists. I feel sorry for you, but I don't hate you.

I don't know why republican... (Below threshold)
dontblameme:

I don't know why republicans (is that what they call you guys?) say bush is a good president. Ever read a book?
The case for war:
Saddam has weapons of mass destruction: oops!
Iraq has bought uranium from niger: oops!
Iraq bought 600,000 centrifuge tubes: oops!
Bush before he was president: "I am not into nation building": oops!
Bush to Fema director Brown: Your doing a heckuva job: oops!
Mission Accomplished banner aboard the USS Lincoln: oops!
And above all, the fact that 65% of this country looks at bush unfavorably...only other president to be worse...drum roll...NIXON!
But...i mean please keep telling yourself that hes a good president and it's just the left screwing everything up.
P.S. dont come at me with some "Bill clinton did it" crap...i didn't like him either




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