SHOCKING BREAKING EXCLUSIVE NEWS from Wizbang Blue.
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Cheney Shaped Tax Policies
Posted by Paul Hamilton Published: Jun 26, 07 10:00 AMWashington Post story (Part 3 of 4):
Cheney had spent months making sure the package contained everything he wanted. One thing was missing.The president had accepted Cheney's diagnosis that the sluggish economy needed a jolt, overruling senior economic advisers who forecast dangerous budget deficits. But Bush rejected one of Cheney's remedies: deep reductions in the capital gains tax on investments.
The vice president "was just hot on that," said Cesar Conda, then Cheney's domestic policy adviser. "It goes to show you: He wins and he loses, and he lost on that one."
Not for long.
Yes, you heard the shocking news on WizbangBlue first... The Vice President of the United States shaped public policy.
When Kevin first asked me about Wizbang Blue, I was a very vocal supporter. It didn't work out the way I hoped it would. - These guys are so crazy with their hatred of the Bush administration they post crazy stuff like that.
Next we'll hear shocking news that Dick Cheney was *gasp* allowed in the Whitehouse.
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Bush is CEO of the World an... (Below threshold)1. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 11:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush is CEO of the World and Cheney, COO, both adding value daily for all stakeholders, even the sullen. If the Board of Directors fails to attract adequate replacement, sell.
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1. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 11:54 AM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 11:54
2. Posted by nikkolai | June 26, 2007 11:55 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Next thing they'll tell us is the elected VP helped shape foreign policy too. The Fascists!
2. Posted by nikkolai | June 26, 2007 11:55 AM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 11:55
3. Posted by rodney dill | June 26, 2007 12:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
...and here all along I thought you had to be a spouse of the President to have a key role in setting policy
3. Posted by rodney dill | June 26, 2007 12:00 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:00
4. Posted by Heralder | June 26, 2007 12:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
nikkolai, if that's the case then what the hell is Pelosi's job.
I'm so confused, all these job titles and no reasons.
4. Posted by Heralder | June 26, 2007 12:04 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:04
5. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 12:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Algore was too busy inventing the internet and taking bribes... er... campaign contributions from Buddhist monks to shape policy.
5. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 12:05 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:05
6. Posted by Heralder | June 26, 2007 12:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
C-C-G, I'm tellin ya man, karmic vengeance...do not mess with the Buddhist extremists, they'll reincarnate you and your whole family.
6. Posted by Heralder | June 26, 2007 12:12 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:12
7. Posted by kbiel | June 26, 2007 12:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So, let me see if I can get the details of this scandal straight:
Bush took advice from Cheney, his VP, except for when he didn't.
OTOH, we're told that Bush doesn't listen enough to his advisers, except, of course, when he does, but then it is bad advice.
7. Posted by kbiel | June 26, 2007 12:12 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:12
8. Posted by Paul Hooson | June 26, 2007 12:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I proudly write for Wizbang Blue. I don't hate Mr. Bush, just disagree on many issues with him. Overall he's a very nice guy and sort of funny as well.
THE WASHINGTON POST and Wizbang Blue both covered the Cheney story, so it has much more significance than this feature might suggest.
8. Posted by Paul Hooson | June 26, 2007 12:49 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:49
9. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 12:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul Hooson if you're willing to stand up and say that you're proud of that post, well, I'll let the readers decide what to think about that...
9. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 12:51 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:51
10. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 12:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
They're trashing Cheney because Libby's about to fly free and they just can't stand it.
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10. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 12:59 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 12:59
11. Posted by hermie | June 26, 2007 1:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The Dems have just been going by their own history of having Vice Presidents who are either poorly informed, deliberately kept out of the loop, or they can't recall what they did while working in the White House.
11. Posted by hermie | June 26, 2007 1:19 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 13:19
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 26, 2007 1:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul Hooson, you expect me to believe you just have "disagreements" with GW? You and your ilk are so blinded by hate for all things GW you cannot think straight. Your comments and posts from the past proves that. I do not trust anyone who is motivated by hate. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | June 26, 2007 1:31 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 13:31
13. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 1:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, not every experiment succeeds... I am kind of sorry that this one failed this poorly. Wizbang Blue was the perfect opportunity for lefties to demonstrate that they are capable of a rational discourse without sinking to the levels of Kos and DU. To say it was a squandered opportunity would be putting it mildly...
13. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 1:34 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 13:34
14. Posted by Kat | June 26, 2007 1:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
do I dare say that my over/under for Blue getting the boot of 6 months still has 5 months to go? Ok, I won't. ;)
14. Posted by Kat | June 26, 2007 1:36 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 13:36
15. Posted by Veeshir | June 26, 2007 2:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wait, you mean that bastid, Cheney, actually gave advice to the President? And that's not even the worst part. The worst part? It really screwed up our economy, making the stock market tank, the housing market tank, lowering the number of minorities who own homes, and causing hyper-inflation. (psst mumble mumble)
Oh.
15. Posted by Veeshir | June 26, 2007 2:07 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 14:07
16. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 2:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Even MSM putting on a happy face is not going to hide the disaster that will be the next Democratic Administration, if.
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16. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 2:28 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 14:28
17. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 4:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"do I dare say that my over/under for Blue getting the boot of 6 months still has 5 months to go? Ok, I won't. ;)"
It's 4 months to go. The launch was two months ago.
17. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 4:11 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 16:11
18. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 4:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
THE WASHINGTON POST and Wizbang Blue both covered the Cheney story, so it has much more significance than this feature might suggest.
Translation: Blue picked up on a hit piece in the WaPo BLOG (the url even says blog.washingtonpost.com), part of a series of hit pieces on the Veep from the BDS-infected WaPo BLOG, and therefore our own BDS-soaked brains thought it would be great fun to post it.
And now Paul and Lee are desperately trying to spin this as "serious blogging" to keep Kevin from deciding that Blue has, in a short 2 months, sunk to the level of DU; which decision would probably have Kevin pulling the plug.
In short, ignore Paul and Lee... they're desperate to keep the forum that they were too lazy to build on their own.
18. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 4:39 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 16:39
19. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 4:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'd suggest looking at the overall coverage at Wizbang Blue on Cheney, rather than taking this one post and picking it apart on its significance.
We treat the news and current events as an on-going conversation, and in fact the post linked above is the 3rd in a series of 4, but there are many more Cheney posts and news items as well.
Wizbang Paul, being the narrow-minded, childish, poorly-educated sycophant that he is, latched onto one post and ran with it - just like the trout he is.
There's more on Cheney, much more -- here.
19. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 4:47 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 16:47
20. Posted by WildWillie | June 26, 2007 5:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee the Liar Tsar speaks and no one listens. Kevin, I move to remove Wizbang Blue from you service. They are clearly abusing their privilege of being serious bloggers. ww
20. Posted by WildWillie | June 26, 2007 5:19 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:19
21. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 5:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
lol!
21. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 5:20 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:20
22. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 5:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'd have to agree with Lee. After all, he is the renowned expert on latching on to a single point and running it into the ground. For example, I once made a trivial error in a piece on Harry Reid's shady land deals, and he harped on it long after I corrected it. Another time, I mentioned that I don't care for casual profanities. Lee found an example when, in a moment of anger, I chose to use some strong language to express myself and harped on that one endlessly -- choosing to note my use of the "casual" qualifier.
Yup, I think anyone would have to defer to Lee on this area. He's made an art out of it.
J.
22. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 5:21 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:21
23. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 5:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The pickiness is always a red herring; it is usually legitimate, but de minimis. It means he doesn't want to talk about something, but getting him back on that is like turning an ox.
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23. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 5:30 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:30
24. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 5:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"After all, he is the renowned expert on latching on to a single point and running it into the ground. "
Rather like the constant ribbing you used to give me about "outing trolls" eh Jay? That bit went on for close to a year.
You probably still have the link to that comment of mine tucked under your pillow, or is it scribed to the belly of your ducky?
24. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 5:54 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:54
25. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 5:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Not an udder one.
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25. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 5:56 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 17:56
26. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 6:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You're right, Lee. I should have dropped that whole sock puppet thing far quicker. After all, you only said you had some suspects, promised me details, promised them again, stalled, and then blew it off. I should have known from the outset that you were talking out of your ass (I'm sorry, let me adopt your lingo -- you were lying) from the outset and not bothered to try to take you seriously.
Trust me, I've learned my lesson there.
J.
26. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 6:23 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 18:23
27. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 6:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>Wizbang Paul, being the narrow-minded, childish, poorly-educated sycophant that he is, latched onto one post and ran with it - just like the trout he is.
So Lee ward -the world's biggest troll- can dish it out but he can't take it; so he cries like a little girl who dropper her lollipop in the sand.
I think Lee you have issues with your manhood and you're really gay and that's why strong male types so scare you.
27. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 6:34 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 18:34
28. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 6:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"After all, you only said you had some suspects, promised me details, promised them again, stalled, and then blew it off."
Yada, Yada, spit and sputter... there he goes again - look at him run. Glad you have your Lee Derangement Syndrome under control now, Jay.
Paul, grow up. Seriously. You're looking like an immature fool. Now you're calling me "gay"? What are you, 12 years old?
28. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 6:41 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 18:41
29. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 6:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee blathered:
Paul is many things. I've personally called him many of them, mostly in private, sometimes in e-mails, once or twice in public.
But a SYCOPHANT?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Oh, and Lee, I don't remember the last time I brought up your sock-puppet bullshit. This time, you did it yourself. And your main complaint? That I took the subject you raised and elaborated on it, and you didn't even dispute the facts.
Poor Lee. Caught bullshittingLYING and whining because he got caught. I almost feel sorry for ya.
J.
29. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 6:45 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 18:45
30. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 6:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Me, me, I'm the sycophant, and watch me suck at flies. Trout, forsooth.
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30. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 6:55 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 18:55
31. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 7:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>Paul, grow up. Seriously. You're looking like an immature fool. Now you're calling me "gay"? What are you, 12 years old?
What??? You equate me with a 12 year old for questioning your sexuality?
Funny, you never said anything like that about the buttmunch on Blue who said Cheney was "loved war" because he was "sexually repressed."
Old Lee "Double Standard" Ward strikes again.
Thanks for taking the bait you moron.
BTW- I tired to bait Hooson but he was smarter than you and he figured it out...
You, predictably, where too stupid.
Thanks for playing.
31. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 7:18 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 19:18
32. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 7:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
>Paul is many things. I've personally called him many of them, mostly in private, sometimes in e-mails, once or twice in public.
>But a SYCOPHANT?
Asshole yes. Sycophant? Not by any stretch of the imagination.
Good catch Jay... He obviously doesn't know what the word means.
32. Posted by Paul | June 26, 2007 7:23 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 19:23
33. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 7:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Oh, and Lee, I don't remember the last time I brought up your sock-puppet bullshit. "
and yet you prattle on and on and on and on about it now, lol, demonstrating that you still can't let go.
deep breathing, Jay, try it. Just put down your ducky and give it a try.
33. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 7:58 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 19:58
34. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh, I don't know if they've sunk to that level yet. At dummyunderground, many of them admit they are socialists at heart. At wiz blues they are still trying to hide behind the facade of being progressives.
34. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 7:59 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 19:59
35. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 8:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow, Lee... when most people hit rock bottom, they at least have the common sense to put away the shovel. Instead, you break out the tactical nukes, and get right back to work. Bravo!
35. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 8:08 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 20:08
36. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 8:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You're welcome, Linoge - you'll be seeing more of me around here from now on...
36. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 8:15 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 20:15
37. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 8:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow. Over a year ago, Lee says he has some suspected sock puppets. I stupidly make the mistake of taking him seriously and wait for him to actually follow up on that for months until he finally admits he was talking out of his ass. (Er, LYING!!!!!)
I drop it then.
Now, he brings it up again as an example of my "obsession" after I cite two OTHER examples of his own fixating tendencies. And because I remember the details and repeat that he was utterly bullshitting that time (dang, my mistake -- he was LYING!!!!!), I'm the one who won't let it go.
Most people, when they realize they're in a hole, eventually realize they should stop digging. Lee, on the other hand, rents a backhoe and (if I may mix my metaphors) insists that "there's gotta be a pony in here somewhere!"
The really sad part is that dealing with his asshattery (sorry again -- LYING!!!!!), both publicly and privately, has kept me from doing what I love most around here -- posting original material. I guess for that, Lee can claim a modicum of victory.
But he's still a Grade-A dipshit.
And a LIAR!!!!!
(Remember, when talking about Lee, it's "LYING!!!!!" and "LIAR!!!!!," with exactly five exclamation points -- no more, no less.)
J.
37. Posted by Jay Tea | June 26, 2007 8:18 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 20:18
38. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just for clarification, the Paul I was referencing earlier (as spinning the story, etc) was Paul Hooson. It completely slipped my mind that the original post had been authored by a good Paul.
Lee, we'll be seeing more of you? Kevin pulling the plug on Blue already! Hooray!
38. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 8:19 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 20:19
39. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 9:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
More likely because there is only so much self-congratulatory praise the handful of wizblues contributors can dispense among themselves. After all, even narcissists can't look in the mirror all day.
39. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 9:07 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 21:07
40. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 9:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can still hope and pray that Kevin comes to his senses and tells the Blue folks to go back to DU, can't I?
40. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 9:25 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 21:25
41. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 9:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
At wizblues: Draft Gore Movement
Seven (7) comments. All of them by wizblues contributors.
41. Posted by John in CA | June 26, 2007 9:27 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 21:27
42. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 10:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Color me surprised. NOT!
42. Posted by C-C-G | June 26, 2007 10:12 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 22:12
43. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 11:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wipe your chin, Jay, you've spittled all over yourself...
43. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 11:01 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 23:01
44. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 11:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cud it be?
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44. Posted by kim | June 26, 2007 11:04 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 23:04
45. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 11:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just for clarification, Lee, since you completely missed my point (which I did expect, granted), I was being entirely sarcastic in my praise for you. It is amazing how many lefties would fail a Turing Test...
45. Posted by Linoge | June 26, 2007 11:18 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 23:18
46. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 11:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
In case you missed my point because you were busy trying your ass on as a hat, I was being sarcastic.
46. Posted by Lee Ward | June 26, 2007 11:53 PM |
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Posted on June 26, 2007 23:53
47. Posted by Jay Tea | June 27, 2007 3:35 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks, Lee. (Wiping) It's kind of hard to scream "LIAR!!!!!" and "LYING!!!!!" without that happening.
Let me know if you ever figure out a way to avoid that. I've avoided mentioning it in the past out of good manners, but it's kinda gross.
J.
47. Posted by Jay Tea | June 27, 2007 3:35 AM |
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Posted on June 27, 2007 03:35
48. Posted by kim | June 27, 2007 10:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Cuz it was.
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48. Posted by kim | June 27, 2007 10:27 AM |
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Posted on June 27, 2007 10:27
49. Posted by D-Hoggs | June 27, 2007 11:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
paul, I'm sorry buy what in the HELL did you think was going to happen giving lee of all idiots, his own blog?!?! For God's sake man.
49. Posted by D-Hoggs | June 27, 2007 11:51 AM |
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Posted on June 27, 2007 11:51
50. Posted by C-C-G | June 27, 2007 12:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Perhaps the idea was to let the lefties show just what sort of crazies they are.
If so, it worked brilliantly.
50. Posted by C-C-G | June 27, 2007 12:46 PM |
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Posted on June 27, 2007 12:46
51. Posted by Linoge | June 27, 2007 3:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
leev("I know you are but what am I?!?");
Are you sure there is a real person on the other side of that screen-name?
51. Posted by Linoge | June 27, 2007 3:20 PM |
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Posted on June 27, 2007 15:20