Is this the same Elizabeth Edwards who's praised Democratic Underground? The same who has blogged at Huffington Post? Talking about RIGHT-wing hate?

The irony's so bright, I'm blinded.

J.

Also, let's not forget that it was Elizabeth Edwards who hired the demented, rage-filled Amanda Marcotte as the official Edwards campaign blogger until the public scandal forced to Edwards to drop her.

And now she's got her panties in a wad about "hate"? What a sanctimonious fraud.

Dont you just love how the left puts people out front that we "aren't supposed to criticize"? Several come immediately to mind. That way they get their hateful messages out without receiving many attacks in return. I've always felt that Edwards was an empty suit - now I see that Elizabeth is the brains behind that outfit and John hides behind her skirt (eg, he refuses to appear on any FXN show). gc

If she doesn't stop, I'll.....I'll....send out my wife to yell at her.

Take that, Elizabeth!

Elizabeth Edwards says she is scared of the "rabid, rabid Republican" who owns property across the street from her Orange County home -- and she doesn't want her kids going near the gun-toting neighbor.Edwards, the wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, particularly recalls the time neighbor Monty Johnson brought out a gun while chasing workers investigating a right of way near his property. The Edwards family has yet to meet Johnson in person.

"I wouldn't be nice to him, anyway," Edwards said in an interview. "I don't want my kids anywhere near some guy who, when he doesn't like somebody, the first thing he does is pull a gun out. It scares the business out of me."

If Elizabeth Edwards denounced everything ever said by anybody would she still be right about Ann Coulter?

My answer is yes. This article and Bozell's article are pretty poor attempts at deflection.

"If Elizabeth Edwards denounced everything ever said by anybody would she still be right about Ann Coulter?"

Yes, she would, but then she wouldn't be a hypocrit. Pointing out someone's hypocrisy is not a "deflection" of the issue, because hypocrisy IS the issue.

The loons on the left are really reaching when they claim Coulter offended Edwards.

Blue Neponset I proved repeatedly that she lied about Coulter.

You know that because you where there.

Yet you lie about it.

Classless.

Pointing out someone's hypocrisy is not a "deflection" of the issue, because hypocrisy IS the issue.

A politician is a hypocrite. Oh my word, say it ain't so!!! You mean to tell me that Elizabeth Edwards doesn't denounce those who agree with her every time they cross the line of good taste? I can not believe it.

Sorry to be so snarky in response to one of your comments, Oyster, but 9 out of 10 times a hypocrisy argument in politics is pure deflection. Simply because all politicians, without exception, are hypocrites. Elizabeth Edwards was right as rain about Coulter, and her comments about AC have nothing whatsoever to do with how much of an idiot Amanda Marcotte is. If we only listened to true saints then we would never ever listen to what any politician has to say.

Paul,

You are really an ignorant person. I don't agree with you about what EE said. That doesn't mean I am lying about it. In the future please feel free not to respond to any of my comments. Have a great day!

"A politician is a hypocrite. Oh my word, say it ain't so!!! You mean to tell me that Elizabeth Edwards doesn't denounce those who agree with her every time they cross the line of good taste? I can not believe it."

Well, what's the problem then? We agree that some people go too far in their rhetoric and that those who selectively choose who speak out against for it are hypocrits. Looks like we're done here.

Blue n' sounds like another wee wee lee lee wardie from bluie. He cannot tell night from day per his above statements.

I don't want my kids anywhere near some guy who, when he doesn't like somebody, the first thing he does is pull a hired gun out.
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Her husband, the fucking pirate.
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We agree that some people go too far in their rhetoric and that those who selectively choose who speak out against for it are hypocrits.

Tell that to Lori. She seems to think a charge of hypocrisy is enough to dismiss what EE said about Ann Coulter.

Ease up, kim. These birds are sitting.
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Blue n' sounds like another wee wee lee lee wardie from bluie. He cannot tell night from day per his above statements.

Oh yeah poopy head? At least I have the stones to tell you want I believe. All you got is some kindergarten name calling.

Blue Neponset, now you are misrepresenting Lori again.

Robin Roberts, you are misrepresenting what I said.

Blue, do you have an actual argument to make about what Lori said, or do you wish to continue to attack strawmen you've invented? If the latter, I'm sure we can all ignore you now and save time.

If Elizabeth Edwards denounced everything ever said by anybody would she still be right about Ann Coulter?

My answer is yes. This article and Bozell's article are pretty poor attempts at deflection.
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I think your post is a pretty poor attempt at deflection of EE 's hypocrisy. That 's the main point. She is willing to use her son 's death as a fundraising tool again and I think that is ugly.

Robin,

Why do you keep insisting on misrepresenting what I said? If that is all you can do then please ignore me. Have a great day!

Okay, let's look at this logically.

Did Mrs. Edwards mischaracterize Mz. Coulter's statement? Yes.

Did Mrs. Edwards do so knowingly and deliberately? Yes.

Is that evidence of a deliberate falsehood, a/k/a a lie? Yes.

Spin all you want, Blue, you cannot get past those simple facts.

A politician is a hypocrite.
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Thank you for admitting that EE is a hypocrite. So Loris and Brent were right about EE as rain (using your own standard).

Blue, I would be grateful if you would point out exactly what Lorie said that you have construed to mean that she thinks Coulter's statement should be dismissed because Edwards is a hypocrite.

Because what I gathered from her two paragraphs is A) Edwards was bemoaning what she called "right-wing hate talk" and B) that she did NOT believe Edwards should be "responsible" for what the left says, but should at least acknowledge that the right is not alone in it.

In other words, Lorie expressed an opinion on what she thinks Edwards should do to lend credibility to her argument that there is too much "hate talk". She did not say that because Edwards only brought up transgressions committed by the right Coulter should be dismissed. Again, I would like for you to tell me where Lorie said this.

If Edwards wants to speak out against the hatefulness and ugliness on the right, she should at least acknowledge those on her side of the aisle engaging in language every bit as "ugly."

Why should Edwards have to acknowledge hateful speech from others in order to denounce hateful speech from Ann Coulter?

Why should Edwards have to acknowledge hateful speech from others in order to denounce hateful speech from Ann Coulter?

Because it makes her look a lot less like a purely partisan hypocrite? --shrug--

Nevermind that what you said below is not an answer to the question. The question was what did Lorie say that means she thinks Coulter's statement "should be dismissed" because Edwards is a hypocrite.

"Why should Edwards have to acknowledge hateful speech from others in order to denounce hateful speech from Ann Coulter?"

She doesn't have to. But her admission that this kind of speech is not exclusive to the "right-wing" or even Ann Coulter is conspicuous in its continued absence.

Now can you please answer my original question?

Now can you please answer my original question?

I did.

Your original question:

Blue, I would be grateful if you would point out exactly what Lorie said that you have construed to mean that she thinks Coulter's statement should be dismissed because Edwards is a hypocrite.

You can disagree with my conclusions but I clearly told you what I "construed to mean" Lorie's dismissal of EE's Coulter criticism.

Robin Roberts, you are misrepresenting what I said.

Posted by: Blue Neponset at July 5, 2007 12:07 PM

What was it you were saying?

John, evidently Blue is rewriting Lori's comment to make it closer to what he wished it said. Less work to attack it, you know.

In other words, Robin, Blue is responding to what he hallucinated that Lori said rather than to what she actually said.

Its a moot point anyway. john edwards will not get the nomination...he's done. If he was a true liberal C he would donate the rest of his campaign funds to charity. And his dopey wife has more fat in her head than in her ass!!!

You guys really suck at making witty comments.

Thank you, Blue. Coming from you, that is quite the compliment.

Ah, you construed that statement to mean that Lorie was dismissing Coulter's comment even though Lorie she preceded it with, "I have expressed my disapproval of some of the things Ann Coulter has said in the past, but I know that she is not typical of most pundits on the right."

Though she said explicitly that she has expressed disproval of some things Coulter has said .... You still think she is dismissing what Coulter said. You've accused her of that which you have decided is in her heart, in spite of that statement. Okay. I got it now.

But just one more thing, if you'll please indulge me. It would probably be wrong of me to accuse you of attempting to dismiss, say, Howard Dean's statements due to your calling *all politicians, without exception* hypocrites.

Ah, you construed that statement to mean that Lorie was dismissing Coulter's comment even though Lorie she preceded it with, "I have expressed my disapproval of some of the things Ann Coulter has said in the past, but I know that she is not typical of most pundits on the right."

No, I construed it to mean that Lorie was dismissing Elizabeth Edward's comments about Ann Coulter. The way I read it was, Lorie was arguing that EE is being hypocritical because she hasn't denounced hateful speech from the Left so we should ignore what EE has to say about Ann Coulter. YMMV.

But just one more thing, if you'll please indulge me. It would probably be wrong of me to accuse you of attempting to dismiss, say, Howard Dean's statements due to your calling *all politicians, without exception* hypocrites.

I don't think Howard Dean has said anything worse than what has been said by his opposite number at the RNC. Ann Coulter, however, is a peddler of hate speech.