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Airman Shot As a Statement on Independence Day

Michelle Malkin has the story of Jonathan Schrieken, the airman from McGuire Air Force Base who was shot in his own driveway by a man who then killed himself. The shooter reportedly left two suicide notes indicating he was angry at the government and wanted to make a statement on Independence Day. Patrick Poole at The American Thinker notes the difference in treatment of those who kill members of other groups.

If Airman Schrieken had been an abortionist or homosexual, this story would be front page news for the New York Times and the lead story on CBS News with Katie Couric for at least the next month. But since Schrieken is serving in the military, even his hometown newspaper, the Columbus Dispatch, has ignored this story.

Predictably, a law enforcement spokesman says that Marren's suicide notes "were indicative of an individual suffering from mental-health problems", but that raises the question of how anyone could identify anyone suffering from mental-health problems amidst those devoted to bizarre conspiracy theories and the virulent anti-Americanism of the antiwar movement. If anything, Marren would have fit right in unnoticed.

It is also worth noting that Marren was merely following the logic of the anti-war movement's standard public rhetoric. Their language is laced with suggestive undertones justifying attacks against our military, calling our armed forces fighting the War on Terror "baby-killers", constantly invoking the specter of Abu Ghraib, and citing their grossly inflated statistics of civilians accidentally killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Such reckless and unbalanced rhetoric (they're not quite as adept at keeping statistics on those murdered by terrorists) fuels the hatred that drives someone like Marren to violence against a member of our own military.

So, if targeting blacks or homosexuals or abortionists can be classified as hate crimes, can crimes against members of the U.S. military?


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Of course, in answer to you... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Of course, in answer to your question.

But I have to say you've outdone youself this time. If you really believe this murder is because of people who dissent from this war then you too are deranged and ill - so full of bias and hatred you have lost the ability to use critical thinking. Never let facts or finding the truth stand in your way Loreie, never.

So why, JFO, do you think t... (Below threshold)
Lee:

So why, JFO, do you think this murder happened?

"... can crimes against mem... (Below threshold)
yo:

"... can crimes against members of the U.S. military??

Yeah. It's called treason, isn't it?

BTW - JFO, obviously, has missed the entire point.

And i suppose he was one of... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

And i suppose he was one of those offspring of one of those vietnam war protesters chanting MAKE LOVE NOT WAR,MAKE FREINDS NOT ENEMIES WHOLE BUNCH OF STUPID SCREW BALL WACKOS.At least we dont have to put him on trial and have him declared insane then pay for his care for the next 50 years or more

BTW, JFO and Lee, it wasn't... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

BTW, JFO and Lee, it wasn't a murder. The airman has survived.

And JFO, could you please elaborate no this:

so full of bias and hatred you have lost the ability to use critical thinking. Never let facts or finding the truth stand in your way Loreie, never.
How so?

It would seem the left once... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

It would seem the left once again refuses to take credit for their acts. Go figure. This is not Nazi Germany. The left does not control all of the media. The truth is out there even if people like OFJ refuse to even consider it. Everything the left has said about this war and the President are disprovable lies. From the WMD issue to our forces losing the battles to the number of civilian deaths. My suggestion is a little civil war right here at home. Politcal cleansing. Start with Lee Ward and JFO,

In this case you know what ... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

In this case you know what the attempted murderer was thinking, so, yes put it in the category of "hate crime."

The only bright side is tha... (Below threshold)

The only bright side is that he was more successful killing himself than he was in killing an innocent man.

And that's cowardice, isn't it? Make a "statement" but refuse to stick around afterward?

Amidst this terrible traged... (Below threshold)
BarneyG2000:

Amidst this terrible tragedy there was one positive aspect. Marren was able to exercise his right to own a hand gun.

Of course we all know that ... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Of course we all know that "angry at the government" (the only rationale revealed thus far) can only mean anti-war, right? No one has ever been angry at the government for other reasons. Right?

The guy was a psychopath so... (Below threshold)
Paul Hamilton:

The guy was a psychopath so please don't try to read any politics into his insanity.

Lessee, no play on MSM, no ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Lessee, no play on MSM, no surprise.

The libs. hate themselves, military, and the country.

"So, if targeting blacks or... (Below threshold)
jp2:

"So, if targeting blacks or homosexuals or abortionists can be classified as hate crimes, can crimes against members of the U.S. military?"

First of all, are the killings of "abortionists" even classified as hate crimes?

Secondly, I don't think Malkin, whose book is based on the premise of racism, is qualified to make any comment on race in this country.

Then their is this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tt_YcQlYxyY

She shouldn't be taken seriously on people with "mental-health issues."

"...front page news for the New York Times and the lead story on CBS News..."

I don't think home-grown terrorism is covered by the media one iota - I think even McVeigh and his ilk had it easy. It goes without saying that most terrorism in this country has been committed by the right wing - murders and bombing of abortion clinics and their doctors, Rudolph, the right-wing blogger who sent anthrax-like powder...

In my experience these things are not covered well and certainly not covered as terrorist events.

Why not, Paul?Even... (Below threshold)

Why not, Paul?

Even a psychopath (and I doubt you know what his "mental illness" was) doesn't randomly pick victims. In fact, it makes it more likely that he was... led by those who don't think before they speak and who insist, absolutely, that nothing they say has consequences, that talking like we live in a fascist nation and are facing some huge attack on our freedoms is consequence free hyperbole.

(Yes, Barn, and he was convinced that just because something was a "gun" that it would do the job. Someone wanted to sell me a .22 pistol and I told my husband I didn't see the point.)

Lee:Unlike Lorie I... (Below threshold)
JFO:

Lee:

Unlike Lorie I, as well as the authorities as I understand it, don't know why he did it. A better question is what evidence does Lorie have that he was "following the logic of the antiwar movement?" needless to say that's an ignorant statement on its face.

J.R.

Lories false and ignorant claims about the antiwar movement demonstrate her bias and hatred. At the least she infers this guy shot the airman as a result of acts of the anti-war movement. Where is the evidence for that? What knowledge does Lorie possess to make that inference, if not conclusion , about this shooting?

Maybe the guy was angry at the government because he thought he paid too much tax, or he didn't get a disability or who knows why? That's the point.

"So, if targeting blacks or... (Below threshold)
Angryflower:

"So, if targeting blacks or homosexuals or abortionists can be classified as hate crimes"

Using your own logic regarding this crime, can I therefore assume that you would defend those who target blacks, homosexuals and abortionists?

Or do I assume your point of view means you want the same sentences as any other criminal?

I guess it depends on how blindly partisan you want to be.

It's interesting that The A... (Below threshold)
Rance:

It's interesting that The American "Thinker" went directly from the idea that the shooter was pissed off at the military, to that he was part of the anti-war movement. There are a lot of people who are angry at the military for perceived or actual events that have nothing to do with this war or any other war.

One should note that it appears that the police haven't said anything about the actual content of the notes. The only references I saw were attributed to the victim's aunt who is quoting the victim's mother who may or may not have access to the notes.

Another note on how the media works, a) it was 4th of July, b) the victim is still alive. Sad to say but being shot and wounded gets a lot less coverage than being shot and killed.

While its still second hand... (Below threshold)
epador:

While its still second hand, the TIMES web article has a note that the killer was "angry at the military" and a inveterate anti-war protester. It will be interesting to see if this is a true statement.

JFO continues his spin (oop... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

JFO continues his spin (oops lies) against Lorie given a simple google search has given the level of scary support of the left for the troops on the other thread.

Anyway, this is another dem blogger calling for shooting Rush Limbaugh

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56569
Democrat blogger wants to shoot Rush Limbaugh
Also calls for volunteer to assassinate Ted Nugent

Yes sir JFO. The lefty shot... (Below threshold)
WildWillie:

Yes sir JFO. The lefty shot a military person because he didn't want to pay tax. You lefties are the craziest bunch. If you are mad at the government for taxes, you go to the IRS, etc. The truth is the lefty "hate the military" mantra is coming home to roost. This one is on you. ww

barneyGRUBBLE:... (Below threshold)
marc:

barneyGRUBBLE:

Amidst this terrible tragedy there was one positive aspect. Marren was able to exercise his right to own a hand gun.

And you continue your "right" to ever play the off topic asshat.

At least until and when your finally sent to Dante's Seventh Level of Blog Hell for being one.

From LAI's link:<i... (Below threshold)
mantis:

From LAI's link:

WHEN they manage to inevitably push their litany of hatespeak into actual bloodletting, and full-blown civil war (for there is no other place that this hatred of American against American can go), well ...

I've got dibs on Rush, as soon as it's legal and lawful to shoot him.

Whoever wants Ted Nugent is welcome to him, but I would prefer that you would call it now, so as to conserve on ammunition.

and from Zelsdorf right on this thread:

My suggestion is a little civil war right here at home. Politcal cleansing. Start with Lee Ward and JFO,

Right. Left. Both sides have their share of psychopathic assholes who dream only of killing.

Mantis:Of cour... (Below threshold)
marc:

Mantis:

Of course we all know that "angry at the government" (the only rationale revealed thus far) can only mean anti-war, right? No one has ever been angry at the government for other reasons. Right?

That he choose a military member apparently doesn't enter into your equation.

Maybe your right, he choose a military member because he was pissed at the Post Office, or was it his local Dept of Motor Vehicles.

"Secondly, I don't think Ma... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

"Secondly, I don't think Malkin, whose book is based on the premise of racism, is qualified to make any comment on race in this country."

I think Malkin, who is regularly subjected to unhinged liberal name calling of such lovely things such as, chink whore, oriental slut and much worse, as well as regular death threats and threats against her family, is pretty damned well qualified of speaking on racism, being a victim of the particularly hateful liberal brand.

This is how the left suppor... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

This is how the left supports the military

MSM Killing Military Recruiting

But, what the USA Today article proves most clearly, is that the left is doing what it does best; organize. And they are organizing in an effort to undermine the US military. The article covers several organizations that have organized to fight Military recruiters from having access to school records.

Even cities have taken up the anti-military cause. The school board in San Francisco has recently banned the Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps from operating in city high schools, despite complaints from students, over the "don't ask, don't tell" that supposedly discriminates against gays. School board member, Eric Mar, was quoted as saying "...in many ways, we're preventing military values on students at the high-school level."

The reason I use this article as an example, though, is in the unusual aspect of it. It gives both sides of the argument where few others do. This article gives space to military spokesmen and gives some info to mitigate the attacks by the anti-military left. The most salient points being that the military isn't asking for any more information than colleges and Universities get from schools and that the military can get the student's info from other sources quite legally, anyway.

Still, we get a pretty detailed listing of several of the anti-military groups formed to mount an attack on the US military's ability to recruit in schools. In that USA Today helps the anti-military as much as possible.

That he choose a militar... (Below threshold)
mantis:

That he choose a military member apparently doesn't enter into your equation.

I'm not saying he isn't anti-war, I'm just not prepared to jump to that conclusion, and am pointing out that there are and have been lots of people "angry at the government" for reasons other than war.

Maybe your right, he choose a military member because he was pissed at the Post Office, or was it his local Dept of Motor Vehicles.

Or maybe he could have just as easily chosen the post office or DMV as his target, but the military guys were closer. Who knows? He was apparently disturbed, and could very well have been driving around randomly looking for someone in uniform. Or, if Schrieken wasn't in uniform, we don't know if Marren even knew the guy was in the Air Force. The point is we do not know.

Or do you have some special knowledge of this incident you aren't sharing?

Using your own logic re... (Below threshold)
marc:

Using your own logic regarding this crime, can I therefore assume that you would defend those who target blacks, homosexuals and abortionists?

I guess it depends on how blindly partisan you want to be.

Not even close... all the hate crime laws should be stricken from the books.

blacks, homosexuals and abortionists get all the protection they need based on laws already covered by settled law.

"Predictably, a law enforce... (Below threshold)
steak111111:

"Predictably, a law enforcement spokesman says that Marren's suicide notes "were indicative of an individual suffering from mental-health problems""

This statement gives EVERY liberal an excuse.

...but that raises the q... (Below threshold)
tas:

...but that raises the question of how anyone could identify anyone suffering from mental-health problems amidst those devoted to bizarre conspiracy theories and the virulent anti-Americanism of the antiwar movement.

Oh, I get it: this can be attributed to the left as a whole because we're all just crazy effing looney toons. And since NY Times and CBS News aren't leading their broadcasts saying as such, then they are just liberally biased looney tunes too, right?

Thank god you only write for Wizbang.

Where is the left 's outrag... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Where is the left 's outrage wrt this barbarian evil from AlQ? The BBC is too busy to promote the senseless evil violence of the terrorists as proof that the surge has failed! Wonder how these people can look themselves in mirror. The NYT is advocating abandoning Iraq to these barbarians with the majority support on the left (with the exception of Lieberman maybe)?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTUzNmIyNDUyMmRjZTk0OTYwZTRhZTVmNzFkOGIwMGY=

On Friday, Yon reported that al Qaeda served up a son for dinner to his own family-- a barbarism reminiscent of Atreus (hence the "curse" on the House of Atreus) cooking (sans feet and hands) and then serving his twin brother's sons to their unsuspecting father Thyestes. So Yon reports a revolting modern-day Thysestean feast:


The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11-years-old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man's words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, "What did he say?" Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family.
What is striking about all this savagery--whether with the filmed beheadings of Westerners in Iraq to the recent flaming Johnny Storm human torch at Glasgow, screaming epithets as he sought to engulf bystanders and ignite his canisters -- is the absolute silence of the West, either distracted by Paris and i-Phones or suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome and obsessed with Guantanamo.

Should these crimes being p... (Below threshold)
Adrian Browne:

Should these crimes being perpetrated by Lesbian Gangs (a pattern uncovered through the tireless investigatory work of Bill O'Reilly) be labeled hate crimes?

'A "national underground network" of pink pistol-packing lesbians is terrorizing America. "All across the country," they are raping young girls, attacking heterosexual males at random, and forcibly indoctrinating children as young as 10 into the homosexual lifestyle, according to a shocking June 21 segment on the popular Fox News Channel program, "The O'Reilly Factor."

Titled "Violent Lesbian Gangs a Growing Problem," the segment began with host Bill O'Reilly briefly . . .'

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/07/oreilly-and-pistol-packin-mamas.html

Of course this can b... (Below threshold)

Of course this can be prosecuted as a hate crime.

After all, the military man was obviously in the military because of dire economic circumstance (read: systemic disadvantage), and thus, as a person who was already being taken advantage of by the system, he was a prime target for further discrimination.

Finally! A cause both conservatives and liberals can get behind! Protect the poor defenseless military men!

(This was all an example of sick humor, by the way. This is a terrible tragedy and a horrific crime, and the only serious response can be shock and sorrow. If he hadn't killed himself, the murderer should have been executed as a traitor.)

Paul HamiltonT... (Below threshold)

Paul Hamilton
The guy was a psychopath so please don't try to read any politics into his insanity.

That was a telling statement....what differentiates an abortion clininc bomber from a psychopath? This guy was a psychopath and Eric Rudolph was.....what?


jp2 said,"I don't think hom... (Below threshold)

jp2 said,"I don't think home-grown terrorism is covered by the media one iota - I think even McVeigh and his ilk had it easy." (at this point in the discussion)

This serves as a perfect example of why it is futile to "debate" with the typical lefty: They are incapable of accepting basic facts,if those facts differ with their world view.They are,in a clinical sense,mentally ill.Most are harmless to anyone more able than a child or a strong woman, but they are inveriably psycopathetic by nature.Just imagine being along side one in battle,or,having one for a brother when you are being pummeled by a bully. Mister (or Miss),you would be screwed, and to the extent that these miscreants have a say in our governance,America is screwed.Their corruption of our legal,educational and media institutions is another horror all to itself. God halp us.

Nice to see the lefties try... (Below threshold)
C-C-G Author Profile Page:

Nice to see the lefties trying to defend an attempted murderer.

The democrats are a gang... (Below threshold)
RobLACal.:

The democrats are a gang of haters. Every lie they spew or false claim should be seen for what it is. Pure evil and hate.

Anthrax-like Powder? How would you know?

"If Airman Schrieken had... (Below threshold)
LAB:

"If Airman Schrieken had been an abortionist or homosexual, this story would be front page news for the New York Times and the lead story on CBS News with Katie Couric for at least the next month. But since Schrieken is serving in the military, even his hometown newspaper, the Columbus Dispatch, has ignored this story."

This is a speculative statement with the presumption on what "what would make prime-time if" Schrieken had any "controversial" background. Sensationalism has a tendency to rear its ugly head for the sake of ratings, but "what if" is not actuality.

It is too bad his hometown didn't cover the story, unless the family just wanted to be low-key because of the holiday, and wanted privacy. "Hatred for the government", however, will never justify murder. In this case, thankfully, it was only attempted

LoveAmerica Immigrant,... (Below threshold)
Ennis:

LoveAmerica Immigrant,

Good luck to the "progressive" that tries to go after Ted Nugent. Ted lives in Texas now and you have the legal right to use deadly force to defend yourself or your property. The only reason Ted would call 911 on the "progressive" is to have the cops come and scrape up what was left of the "progressive". The grand jury would no bill him and probably congratulate him on his gun control.

Hey LAB,Ever heard... (Below threshold)

Hey LAB,

Ever heard of Matt Shepard? He was killed by some thugs who wanted to rob him most of all and he was turned into a cause celeb for the pro-homo agenda water carriers and advocates of hatecrime leg.,ie: The MSM

There is no what if necessary. Any honest person knows that the authors point is right on target. That's "TarZhay" to you Frenchies.

My point was based on this ... (Below threshold)
LAB:

My point was based on this story alone. Yes, "what if" is necessary when the actual traits (abortionist or homosexual), don't exist for Schrieken. I don't watch any primetime news because I would rather read than listen to a talking head. My other point was also that this crime has no justification. But you choose to presume without actually reading my whole post. I am a conservative who avoids jumping to conclusions. Thankfully, there are no Target stores in France.

Make that, "Sadly, Target i... (Below threshold)
LAB:

Make that, "Sadly, Target is owned by France"

Forgot the wink and the smi... (Below threshold)
LAB:

Forgot the wink and the smiley face on the last comment. Oh, well ;)

LAB, I'm afraid, you... (Below threshold)

LAB,
I'm afraid, your point be danged.The AUTHORS point was to say "what if" and you responded to it.(So,AHA!) And again, I would say it's undeniable. Take any subject,the war for instance.Here is a story,linked above,that illustrates just one of the many instances in which the MSM has disrobed,and flashed us their seedy,and self gratifying agenda, in no unblatant way. Truth is, they are virtually all biased and find a way to work that bias into everything they do,or don't do, and,much like the reality of who owns Target,that,sadly,is the truth.

If you want to say that the author is exploiting a horrific story, to score an obligatory point for the right,have at it.I would argue,however,that it is a point that should be driven home until the public is as sick of it as they were of Michael J.Fox after the release of "Back to the Future 8,DeLorean vs. Gremlin"(I know it was only a cameo,but he was already WAY past the overkill point). As it is,we have yet to tantalize the great unwashed into marveling at the spectre of the ungreat unwashed,heretofore known as, "the media",and all of its wallowing in the blood and misery of others for their own twisted and perverse needs. Digg ?

"sick of it as they were of... (Below threshold)
LAB:

"sick of it as they were of Michael J.Fox after the release of "Back to the Future..."

Sorry, but that is just silly. Pudge, we do agree that "what if" is a necessary element, so "ah ha"(?) to nothing. My point is don't jump the gun on a story where such sensationalism didn't happen.

Yes, do then agree on "what if", but you just want to sound right about something. I'll let you think that you are right, but not even another Christian can make me "digg" sp? something at face value if I suspect it's horsh**. I choose to think for myself.

Or maybe he could have j... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Or maybe he could have just as easily chosen the post office or DMV as his target, but the military guys were closer. Who knows?

Yeah mantis, I know whenever I'm pissed off at Dish Network for something pertaining to my service I call Direct TV because they are first in the phone book!

Come on, it's not really that hard to determine that the guy was against the military. Government targets are everywhere, this guy went to a military servicemen's home. Sheesh.

Yeah mantis, I know when... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Yeah mantis, I know whenever I'm pissed off at Dish Network for something pertaining to my service I call Direct TV because they are first in the phone book!

Are you suicidal and prone to shooting strangers? If not, your experience isn't particularly enlightening here.

Come on, it's not really that hard to determine that the guy was against the military. Government targets are everywhere, this guy went to a military servicemen's home. Sheesh.

First, we don't even know that Marren knew the guy was in the military. There's no mention of him being in uniform. If in fact he knew that Schrieken was in the Air Force, I would say its likely, but not certain, that his beef was with the military. Even if it were, we still don't know that it had anything to do with the war. People could conceivably be angry at the military for a variety of reasons, disturbed people even moreso.

I'll point you to yesterday's article in the Columbus Dispatch:

The shooter, identified as Matthew Marren, 22, of Pennsauken, N.J., was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital that night.

Investigators have no clear-cut motive for Schrieken's shooting, despite two suicide notes left behind by the gunman, Milavsky said. They have no evidence that Schrieken knew his assailant, he said.

"The shooter was a troubled and disturbed individual," Milavsky said. "We will not release the content of these notes."

Marren's parents temporarily disconnected their home phone in New Jersey. An aunt told the Burlington County Times that the suicide notes described Marren's anger at the government and a desire to demonstrate that anger on a national holiday.

Milavsky wouldn't confirm that.

Not very much to go on. Feel free, of course, to jump to whatever conclusions fit your view.

Preview doesn't work very w... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Preview doesn't work very well on this new system. Blockquote should have extended to "Milavsky wouldn't confirm that."

Are you suicidal and pro... (Below threshold)
J.R.:

Are you suicidal and prone to shooting strangers? If not, your experience isn't particularly enlightening here.

No, I'm neither suicidal nor prone to shooting strangers, just merely applying your logic when you state:

Or maybe he could have just as easily chosen the post office or DMV as his target, but the military guys were closer
But you're right, we may never know why Marren did what he did. But given the statements already published about how he wanted to make a statement about the government and then sought out and shot a member of the military, I think it's a fair assumption that this guy was anti-military.

I know, it's an assumption, but if I read about someone shooting up a post office I wouldn't think he was mad about paying his taxes.

Oh, someone mad about his t... (Below threshold)

Oh, someone mad about his taxes might shoot up a post office.

But would someone mad about his taxes go out and shoot a mailman?

Or a police officer?

It's not really all that strange for someone to use a building to represent the government. It does seem sort of strange for someone to use a 22 year old (?) person to represent the government.

Why was a young man standing in for the US government in this guy's (admittedly unbalanced) mind?

I don't know how it could be anything but that he represented the military and was a stand-in for the military in particular.

Else why not shoot the mail carrier after all? Or any other random federal employee?




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